One thing I found to save power that I don't really see posted anywhere is by using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=AutomateItPro.mainPackage&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEwMiwiQXV0b21hdGVJdFByby5tYWluUGFja2FnZSJd
I have it programed to turn off 3G/mobile data when it screen's off....unless I have a certain app running like say the browser. It will then keep data connected until the browser is closed, then the screen turned off. I then have it turn 3G/mobile data on as soon as I screen on again, so it's ready to rock instantly. I personally noticed a huge difference in my battery drain when not using the phone.
The app is pretty cool, you can program a ton of things. I have gps auto turn on when I use G-Maps or GasBuddy, then it auto turns off when I close those apps. Saves time and juice imo. Just figured I'd throw this out there.
nice app. isn't there a setting within the OS to do this, though? pretty sure there is.
either way, agreed. data usage can/will cause battery drain.
the real perp is your display, however. adjust your brightness settings, you will see significant battery improvements.
My display is set low, and all my other settings are set to be battery friendly. It's been awhile since I used the app. But after I had that setup, I noticed better life instantly. Went fishing today with the little guy, left the house with 100%. No phone usage for 2hrs, and it was still at 99%.
Can't you do this without the app tho
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If there's a way to set the phone to turn the radio off when screen is off, I'm unaware of that. I tried turning it on and off manually, but it got to be a pain turning it on and off all the time. I would end up just leaving it on. Now I don't even have to think about it, and it gets done everytime.
Sounds similar to Tasker, which is a little confusing to new users.
But as for your post, turning 3g off saves a TON of battery. I have to keep it on during the day to get emails for my job, but at night, I turn 3g off, and the phone will drop maybe 2% overnight with 3g off.
The CDMA version of the 3D has a setting in network that allows you to turn off your mobile network if the screen is off for 5+ minutes. The setting is "turn off always on mobile network". But the screens needs to be off 5 minutes before it will. This setting will not turn off wifi though.
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Lol silly kids, saving battery is for iPhones,lol, but seriously, I have 4g on all day and my battery doesn't drain any faster that it would with normal useage
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Lol silly kids, saving battery is for iPhones,lol, but seriously, I have 4g on all day and my battery doesn't drain any faster that it would with normal useage
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Pix or it didn't happen. I have full bars with 4G and my battery drains a lot faster.
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If you wanted to save battery life without downloading anything you could just use the HTC widgets for mobile network, 4g, WiFi, and GPS. This method allows me to switch the settings on and off on the fly. I've also found that if you disable all GPS options it won't be running in the background and for apps that require it. And if I'm in one spot for a while I just use WiFi.
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Anyone else getting poor battery life with their Razr? I cannot go a full day without recharging at some point. I need a phone to last at least 16 waking hours, so I can recharge at night.
My typical usage pattern is a few hours a day of web browsing and email. I don't game, and I rarely stream video or do anything data intensive. GPS is switched off unless needed, and my screen brightness is set to auto.
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Expect poor battery life from any Android phone
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Also, don't use auto brightness. Just set to a mid setting.
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Mine is great, it got considerably better after a few days of conditioning.
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I'm actually getting pretty good battery life compared to what I've read so far... Though it wasn't 16 hours, I DID get almost 12 out of it yesterday with pretty heavy usage all day.
I highly suggest using the task managers auto end feature. It'll turn off any apps you set it to after 2 minutes. Fast Reboot is also a very good friend of mine. Though I haven't set any yet, I've played with Smart Actions, and I think with some tinkering, it'll work wonders as well!
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JuiceDefender with root, AOSP helper, and a manual setup is extremely helpful. The data disable override feature should be on as well.
Make sure in-pocket detection is OFF, as well. It kills the battery really really quickly.
As far as smart actions.... Just turn on the premade battery extender and nighttime battery extender. And data off on screen off.
Lastly, screen filter from the market helps a lot.
I got a full day and 2 hours of use today on Wi-Fi. I'm sure on 3G I could get 20ish hours, and on 4G I could get 15ish.
Mine is great. I got my phone yesterday so it isn't fully calibrated yet but it still last very good.
I've found that the the biggest drainer for me is being in an area where 4g/3g is flip flopping alot. Other than that, phones got amazing battery life. Especially on wifi.
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Ya, idunno about that....
What has always worked for me is to use an app called brightness profiles. My phone lives at 30% brightness 95% of the time. The RAZR has a super bright screen, 30 is plenty.
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my gf just got her razr a week ago and says with regular usage she gets about 4 hours of battery life. thinking about returning it for a different phone or maybe she got a dud? she doesn't want it rooted so I did everything else mentioned. if there are more tips I'd love to hear them before the phone goes away for good.
Turn all haptic(vibration) feedback off. i get about 20 hours on 4g, all apps in auto end list, i don't have any BS apps that like to run randomly, not synced with my fb,twitter, g+(have my laptop all day so no point), brightness is about 30%, smart actions usually kill my batt faster for some reason, gps is on, timeout is 30 seconds. I text a lot, and about 2hours of phone calls perday
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my gf just got her razr a week ago and says with regular usage she gets about 4 hours of battery life. thinking about returning it for a different phone or maybe she got a dud? she doesn't want it rooted so I did everything else mentioned. if there are more tips I'd love to hear them before the phone goes away for good.
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What's her definition of "regular" lol... My fiancée sees "regular" as all day usage...
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I'm on my phone using opera xda reddit mobile hotspot, and only get a couple hours of usage. I aaam on my phone almost all the time but I gotta charge it quite a few times every day.. :/
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tried and failed
So I took everyones consideration and yes I got better battery life but I don't do much on the phone. My gf does a ton of more stuff than I do and by the end of the day. She still has better battery life when for me I did a few txt. Check fb on my lunch break and I'm down to 20% by days end. Whereas my gf surfs,txt,stream,chat half the day and she's down to 60%. Only difference between mine and hers. Mine is rooted. Mind you she has her 4g data on while all day I'm running only 3g. Any more help would be appreciated
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Anyone else getting poor battery life with their Razr? I cannot go a full day without recharging at some point. I need a phone to last at least 16 waking hours, so I can recharge at night.
My typical usage pattern is a few hours a day of web browsing and email. I don't game, and I rarely stream video or do anything data intensive. GPS is switched off unless needed, and my screen brightness is set to auto.
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Put the power control widget on your home screen.
Set brightness to minimum or lowest setting that you can use well.
Use wifi whenever possible. Turn. Off new network notifications.
Turn off animations.
Use a simple, mostly black wallpaper.
Turn off auto data sync.
Since I'm around wifi all day I can easily go 12 hours without a charge and have plenty of battery left. 4g is a total power hog.
If you're outside you might want to buy the power pack... good luck!
I think typical android battery life for a normal use will be varies from 6~20 hrs depending on the way u use and what you use.
when running only data/wifi when i need it(off data/wifi when not using), i can get more then 20hrs. if i on data all the time, i can get 8~10hrs with with some facebook, emails and lite web sufing. i will get 4~6 hrs on heavy use on gaming, video and music.
but u need smart action, task killer and ti backup to really optimize the battery life.
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Anyone else getting poor battery life with their Razr? I cannot go a full day without recharging at some point. I need a phone to last at least 16 waking hours, so I can recharge at night.
My typical usage pattern is a few hours a day of web browsing and email. I don't game, and I rarely stream video or do anything data intensive. GPS is switched off unless needed, and my screen brightness is set to auto.
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yeah.
battery life is a hard problem for android device for a long time.
but i can use some trips, for example.
1. using the task managers, it can kill some app that you used.
2. using the app called province electricity king or the same function app.
3. turn off the back-data auto sync
for your information, 3q
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Mine is great, it got considerably better after a few days of conditioning.
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My Razr has a very good battery life after a few cycles of charging and discharging.
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
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I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
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Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
Okay, I own an iPod Touch 4G for almost a year or more now, and recently I got this super awesome S3.
Now, the problem is, when the S3 goes into Standby, it still kinda drains away on power, somehow. Like within an hour it would go from 100% to 95% (edit: actually, around 40 minutes, or even less) while the screen is off. Now my iPod definitely does not do this, while even play music with the screen is off.
Does anyone know why?
My Wifi is always off when I don't use it.
My screen brightness is always at the lowest.
I almost never use my mobile data. (because I only have 200MB and not much to do online on the go)
I listen to A LOT of music, and somehow the S3 doesn't even last half as long as my iPod.
Welcome to the club of S3 owners
If you could post a screen grab of your battery usage, it'll help identify some culprits.
If you haven't already enabled the "Palm to swipe" capture option, go to Settings, Motions, then Hand Motion and tick Palm Swipe to capture.
Then go to Settings, Battery, take a snap shot of that, it'll give us an indication of the % drop, then the apps using power. Then press the graph and take a snap shot of that.
There is a forum about WiFi draining power when the phone is off, unticking Keep WiFi on during sleep from WiFi / Advanced settings has help keep my battery drain to minimum.
Let us know how you get on, or if I've lost you in any of the steps.
Silly question, but what is your cell reception like? The iPod wasn't a phone, so that helps it a lot. If your cell reception is bad, that will drain the battery like crazy...
Also: in the world of Android, the quest for good battery life can drain YOU of life. Beware
Would be really nice if this is fixed.
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Thanks for the wifi off tip during stand by, gonna try that on mine as I'm not convinced with my battery either!
Is this normal?
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Ever since I got my SGS3 last year, I noticed that WiFi would drain battery rather than save battery. For whatever reason I always got better battery life with WiFi off rather than on.
I noticed a lot more wake locks too. I don't know if it was because with a solid WiFi conneciton, apps tend to refresh a lot more than they normally do.
Enter the HTC One. I have noticed the same type of effects. I've only had it for 2 days but I am noticing better battery life without it.
So I want to collect some data using a poll. Do you get better battery life with it on or off?
Off..
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Can you please add your vote to the poll? I just want to resolve this for people complaining about the battery life. It might be their WiFi.
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Ever since I got my SGS3 last year, I noticed that WiFi would drain battery rather than save battery. For whatever reason I always got better battery life with WiFi off rather than on.
I noticed a lot more wake locks too. I don't know if it was because with a solid WiFi conneciton, apps tend to refresh a lot more than they normally do.
Enter the HTC One. I have noticed the same type of effects. I've only had it for 2 days but I am noticing better battery life without it.
So I want to collect some data using a poll. Do you get better battery life with it on or off?
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My best setup is with wifi always on, but I set it up so Tasker turns mobile data off as soon as my phone connects to my home or office wifi network.
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My best setup is with wifi always on, but I set it up so Tasker turns mobile data off as soon as my phone connects to my home or office wifi network.
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Shouldn't mobile data turn off automatically when WiFi connects?
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Shouldn't mobile data turn off automatically when WiFi connects?
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It goes inactive, but it doesn't actually get 'turned off'. If I don't have it turned off, what happens is when my wifi goes to sleep then mobile data goes back on. I don't want that.
of course you get better battery with Wifi turned off. but doesn't Wifi consume less battery than cellular data? my balance is to keep Wifi on ANYTIME i'm in a trusted wireless network and manually toggle off cellular data when I'm using Wifi.
It burns battery when it isn't connected and on but I get better battery with it on and connected
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I don't know if anyone has tried this yet, but after I have tested it for almost a full work day I can say it's definitely worth using..
Try this: After you completely charge your phone, turn on Power Saver (make sure all options are checked in settings)
Leave it on, don't turn it off, for the entire day.
I had absolutely no slow down.. no problem receiving timely texts/notifications.. the only thing that is a minor annoyance is that screen brightness stays low no matter what, so if you view your screen in full sunlight a lot this will not be for you.. otherwise, HOLY CRAP this makes your phone literally sip power all day.
9 hrs 21 mins 44 secs since I unplugged my phone this morning and I have 63% battery left!
That's roughly 3.96% battery drain per hour!!
This means I will get something like 24-25 hours before I hit zero.. this is with using the phone like normal, where I would normally need to charge after about 16 hours.
Insane. Best battery life I've ever had on a stock phone, and yes I know those monstrosities like the Note 2 can go longer (huge battery..) or if you want to tweak your phone with custom kernels, etc.
But daaaamn I have to say I am impressed.
Leaving Power Saver on from now on!
Btw I should add this is without Wi-Fi, in a LTE area that bounces from LTE to HSPA a lot.. WiFi left on but never connecting to a router
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Update. Battery running down a little faster while on my home Wi-Fi watching videos and surfing the net. Don't think I'll make it 24 hours but I am using the phone pretty heavy. I've also noticed that the auto brightness seems to be working overtime whereas it never budged during the day. Tomorrow I'll set my brightness manually to stay at ~30% and turn off the screen option in power saver. See if that yields even better results. So far it appears auto brightness is a power consumer on this phone. We'll see if I'm right tomorrow. I'm at 23% at 14hrs 21mins
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I should add that normally I would have charged the phone by now for about two hours since I do most of my heavy usage at night, and when I get home from work I'm already at 20%. But when I've let it run down almost all the way it's been an average of about 15-16 hours
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OK so today I kept Power Saver on, but unchecked the "screen" option so that I the screen would adjust as normal to the ambient light conditions. I am finding that the power consumption is essentially the same, very minor change. I now believe that it is Wi-Fi that was causing a quicker drain than LTE/HSPA does, simply because Power Saver does not include an option to cut the Wi-Fi connection when the screen is off.
I will change my Wi-Fi settings to sleep when screen is off and see if that keeps the battery draining at the same slow pace when I am at home connected to my router. I'll try that tonight. If that works successfully, I should get an easy 20 hours + from one charge with normal use (including my evening usage which is heavier usage).
Last night I hit 18 hours and 22 minutes before plugging in at 12% remaining battery without changing the Wi-Fi sleep setting. Hopefully this will be the last test necessary to find the best set up for longer battery life.
Feel free to chime in if anyone else is testing this!
I haven't test the difference between Power Saving and normal. I put Power Saving On in the morning right after a full charge.
I have medium usage for about 20 minutes in the morning using wifi. (It would drop to about 94%). I then turn off wifi and mobile and by 1pm, I have about 82%-88%. I would have about 20 minute usage on mobile data during lunch (flux between 3g, H and rarely LTE). By the time I leave work, it's around 74%. This is when I turn off power saving since I'm usually heading home. Another 20 minutes of medium to heavy usage over H/LTE when on the subway. By the time I get home, it's around 70%. After this, it takes at least about an hour of heavy activity to drain it down to 50% off power saving.
I have the 64 GB Developer Edition and running ARHD 12.1 with the latest T-Mobile Radio.
I've always left power saver on at all times and don't notice any slowdown. One exception is that I don't enable power saver on the screen as it's damn near impossible to see the screen outside. I get pretty damn good battery life on stock rom. Over 3 hrs screen on time in 24 hr period of half mobile data and half wifi.
For enabling and disabling wifi automatically, I use the app wifi matic and it's worked well.
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I can easily say the dim screen option is completely unnecessary. Everything is working perfectly, there's no slowdown whatsoever. Even set keep Wi-Fi awake to never. Phone flies, and honestly the data connectivity is ten times better with power saver on. Without it, I would see my phone jump to 2G in a moment of bad coverage and then take FOREVER to reconnect to LTE or HSPA. Now when I unlock my phone it's instantly connected, as if a radio refresh is instant on power saver but laggy as hell without it. I'm very pleased.
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ingenious247 said:
I had absolutely no slow down.. no problem receiving timely texts/notifications..
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Just thinking out loud here...
I don't see how with the data connection off you could have "no problem receiving timely...notifications." What "notifications" are you talking about not missing? Are you saying you actually got cloud-service-based notifications while the phone was sleeping?
Texts/SMS of course would still come in because they don't travel over the data connection, they travel over the voice network.
Email, twitter, etc., they shouldn't get their notifications since that stuff travels over the data connection.
Google Voice users (like me), would miss out on their text messages since those travel over the data connection.
I'll need to test this some. Maybe with the data connection turned off via this setting, the phone actually periodically fires it up to check for notifications, or responds to apps requesting a quick data connection to pull notifications.
UPDATE: Hmmm...turned on power saver, turned on the data disconnect option, put phone to sleep by pressing power button. Waited a minute. Sent myself a google voice # text message and the phone buzzed immediately. Very curious.
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Just thinking out loud here...
I don't see how with the data connection off you could have "no problem receiving timely...notifications." What "notifications" are you talking about not missing? Are you saying you actually got cloud-service-based notifications while the phone was sleeping?
Texts/SMS of course would still come in because they don't travel over the data connection, they travel over the voice network.
Email, twitter, etc., they shouldn't get their notifications since that stuff travels over the data connection.
Google Voice users (like me), would miss out on their text messages since those travel over the data connection.
I'll need to test this some. Maybe with the data connection turned off via this setting, the phone actually periodically fires it up to check for notifications, or responds to apps requesting a quick data connection to pull notifications.
UPDATE: Hmmm...turned on power saver, turned on the data disconnect option, put phone to sleep by pressing power button. Waited a minute. Sent myself a google voice # text message and the phone buzzed immediately. Very curious.
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I was confused about that same thing. I think it only turns off your data if you havent touched your phone in a while.
If I turn it off, put it down, and pick it up 5 mins later, the data is still connected.
If I turn it off and its in my pocket for an hour, I take it out, the data service is usually trying to reconnect.
I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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I was confused about that same thing. I think it only turns off your data if you havent touched your phone in a while.
If I turn it off, put it down, and pick it up 5 mins later, the data is still connected.
If I turn it off and its in my pocket for an hour, I take it out, the data service is usually trying to reconnect.
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Okay, a little google search reveals the secret behind the data connection magic:
If you want to choose which phone features to conserve power for, tap the Power saver notification first before you turn power saver mode on.
Note: If Data connection is selected, HTC One X automatically disconnects from the mobile network after 15 minutes when it's in sleep mode and the data connection is idle (no download activity, streaming, or data usage). It reconnects and then disconnects periodically when the data connection is idle to save battery power.
This is from the HTC One X support site, but the same quote is on many of the devices, but oddly not our HTC One. I think it's safe to assume it's the same for our device, whether published or not.
ingenious247 said:
I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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My phone's been untouched for an hour or so, and I just sent it a Google Voice text message. Buzzed instantly, and in light of my above research, it looks like you're correct. I'm certainly going to run with this setting on for a day or two at least for further testing. I only have CPU and data enabled in the settings. My testing the next few days may not be the best, as I'll likely be on wi-fi most of the time, although I could turn wi-fi setting to disconnect wi-fi when sleeping.
I've been using that Qualcomm Snapdragon battery guru app, and Greenify on my phone, so it gets damned good battery all things considered anyways, and I also am not afraid to go on charger during the day, but every little bit helps.
Just a few comments on the power saver:
I've noticed that power saver doesn't disconnect the background data immediately... it does it after a longer interval of non-usage.
Otherwise, it's great. I'm not sure if it's the screen dimming or the underclocking, but it really makes a definite difference in the battery life. I also turn it on for a lot of games (cough, dead space) and it helps keep the phone cooler while gaming.
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Just a few comments on the power saver:
I've noticed that power saver doesn't disconnect the background data immediately... it does it after a longer interval of non-usage.
Otherwise, it's great. I'm not sure if it's the screen dimming or the underclocking, but it really makes a definite difference in the battery life. I also turn it on for a lot of games (cough, dead space) and it helps keep the phone cooler while gaming.
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Not the screen dimming, because I don't use that option.
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FYI, it underclocks the CPU so the max is about 1.2ghz; When using Faux Control App, I toggled the Power Saver from the notification and can see it go down to about 1.2 ghz when "On" and when switched off my CPU clock maxes out back to 2ghz.
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FYI, it underclocks the CPU so the max is about 1.2ghz; When using Faux Control App, I toggled the Power Saver from the notification and can see it go down to about 1.2 ghz when "On" and when switched off my CPU clock maxes out back to 2ghz.
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Yeah I figure that would be the clock speed, but I haven't suffered any loss of performance which is amazing to me.
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ingenious247 said:
I have to admit the way HTC implemented their power saver is impressive. It literally does not delay a single notification. Facebook, Gmail, Hangouts, Scramble with Friends, anything that is set up to notify me works without a hitch. Everything is instant.. compare this to "power saver" mode on the Galaxy line which pretty much cripples the phone.
There is NO reason whatsoever to not have Power Saver turned on with the HTC One. Best implementation ever.
I've had no delays even after not touching the phone for a solid hour. Still get them.
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I can also concur to this fact; since day one of owning this phone I've had power saver on permanently set and I've never experienced performance issues like in other phones, its been smooth, and helpful. The amount of usage I submit my phone to in one day its enough to make any other phone live permanently connected to the charger, and I get at least 1.5 days of juice.
I agree, HTC did a good job with their power saver mode.
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ingenious247 said:
9 hrs 21 mins 44 secs since I unplugged my phone this morning and I have 63% battery left!
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6 hrs 23 mins 3 secs since i unplugged it and still have 82% without using PowerSafer. switching between very low LTE and very good hspa all the time and i'm using it quiet often checking facebook, twitter, mails, whatsapp and news.
The only Powersaving App I installed is "Wifi-Matic" wich turns on Wifi only if i'm connected to a specific radio station. Check in to your wlan one time and it will safe the radio stations around. if you aren't connect to this stations it will disable Wifi by itself. Works great for me! (Checking radiostations every 15 mins).
This means for me loosing 2,889% every hour without dimming the screen or something else
Give it a try and compare
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6 hrs 23 mins 3 secs since i unplugged it and still have 82% without using PowerSafer. switching between very low LTE and very good hspa all the time and i'm using it quiet often checking facebook, twitter, mails, whatsapp and news.
The only Powersaving App I installed is "Wifi-Matic" wich turns on Wifi only if i'm connected to a specific radio station. Check in to your wlan one time and it will safe the radio stations around. if you aren't connect to this stations it will disable Wifi by itself. Works great for me! (Checking radiostations every 15 mins).
This means for me loosing 2,889% every hour without dimming the screen or something else
Give it a try and compare
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How about you try that, with power saver on as well, and report back?
Besides, if you're barely using your phone at all, then yes it will be saving power with sleep mode alone. All I know is I have several friends who move in and out of bad reception/data areas, and now their battery is lasting a whole heck of a lot longer using power saver. It sounds like what you're using is somewhat of a power saver as well.. but you are in a good coverage area too so it's hard to say.
Btw, my figures were with Wifi always on - never switched off, ever.. and I still had greatly extended battery life.