[For UK Prime users, probably ] I've been trying to watch live Wimbledon on my Prime. I've tried several browsers (Opera, ICS, ICS+, Dolphin) but with little luck. The live steam starts OK, then it flashes black every few seconds (I'm pretty sure this is the BBC end ratcheting up the quality of the stream). It seems to settle, and it looks fantastic, but every few seconds, sometimes 5, sometimes 30, there are drop outs and buffering pauses. Anybody have any luck with streaming this on their Prime, or is it an 'issue'? (BTW, iplayer works fine in HD and SD).
I just tested this for you.
I did this by going to BBC News and then sports and clicking the live streams in multiple browsers.
As you say in Opera and Dolphin the video breaks up and buffers quite a lot so out of curiosity I tested it in the default browser that comes with the Prime. The page was slow to load initially but once I hit play it streamed perfectly and has been running by the side of me for 10 minutes with no buffering or artifacts or any problems at all.
Go figure, the worse browser of all actually works lol.
I think the system they are using for Wimbledon is still in some kind of testing mode for the Olympics. It seems to be constantly attempting to connect at the 3500 kbps rate but then dropping back down even when the signal is strong. A pity because the PQ is really excellent while it maintains the HD feeds.
That was my thought - but it plays fine on my lap-top, with only the odd buffering pause. On the ATP, whether with Stock Browser or several different options, the image breaks up every few seconds - it's like it can't maintain a fix. As said, it's not a problem with iplayer, but only with live streaming.
Yes, HD streams from iPlayer play great on stock browser.
And watching live streams from the iPlayer page is completely smooth - but of course only 1500 kbps 688x384 feeds are available from here. It seems 1280x720 is only available via the Sports web pages. I have noticed today too that most of the links are wrongly labelled!
Update: Watching the Federer match here tonight (accessed through the Sports site) - totally smooth HD live stream. Looks beautiful except for some reason full-screen leaves thin black bars left right and bottom.
So impressive that this thin little tablet can act "out of the box" as live HDTV .
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I've searched thoroughly on this and no solutions, only a few other users reporting the same problem.
Got a TV, Blu-ray player, or network media player that supports DLNA? Can you record a video on your Vibrant, and successfully play it on your client device? I think I saw someone say they had success using a WD Live HD Plus...but I'd sure like to get confirmation before I go get one.
I picked up a Samsung BD-C6900 player that ought to do this. Getting the networking set up on both the phone and the blu-ray went extremely smoothly. The Avatar trailer plays over DLNA perfectly. But videos recorded with the phone's camera? No go. They play for a second or two, then freeze, then sometimes pick up again, much farther into the clip, then freeze again. Even on the smallest resolution.
The C6900 is going back, unless I get some satisfaction from level three support in the morning...by the time I got that far tonight, the department had closed for the day.
So maybe I try the WD, or wait until some future time when Samsung finally gets around to doing the engineering that should have been done before releasing product, and spreading hype about Allshare that crosses the fine line from fraud into marketing.
Any other experiences or ideas?
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Update 10/1/2010 5PM MT:
Amie at level 3 support did not have any solutions, but was conscientious in taking down the data to relay to development.
I discovered that turning off "record audio" results in videos that play through allshare correctly, excepting the highest resolution mode. Even though they play correctly, there is a notice at the beginning: "Audio codec not support". This notice also sometimes briefly appears at the start of the malfunctioning videos that do contain audio.
I've copied the videos over to Ubuntu and used mplayer -identify to start analyzing them. Nothing jumps out as suspicious. In both cases, the audio format ID is 255 and mplayer selects the FAAD AAC codec. Mplayer plays them all fine.
I tried Twonky Mobile Server in addition to allshare, and it behaved similarly to allshare. It produced a log file in which the most interesting difference between avatar_trailer and the recorded videos is that DLNA profiles were found for the malfunctioning videos, but no profile was found for the Avatar trailer.
I wonder if something is triggering on-the-fly transcoding to happen, even though it should not be needed? On-the-fly transcoding is something that can happen under DLNA, so that broader compatibility can be achieved. It's going to be slow, though, on these embedded processors. Slowness due to transcoding would be consistent with the symptoms. I don't know whether such transcoding would happen on the server end (phone in this case), or the client end. Anyone, anyone? Bueller?
My next experiment will be to burn the videos to disc and see what the C6900 does with them in that case.
Update 10/1/2010 10PM MT: All the videos play fine when burned to disc. So it's purely an allshare issue...but is it on the phone end, or the BD player end? I checked back and found the source of the report that the WD Live worked with DLNA from a Vibrant...but it was not claimed that videos recored using the Vibrant's camera worked. So I have never seen any report of anyone ever playing their Vibrant-recorded videos using DLNA/allshare. Seems like something amiss on the phone end, then...but why, if the video files themselves are OK, do two different DLNA server apps (allshare and Twonky) both fail in the same way?
Next experiment: stream to Windows 7 as the DLNA client.
I would like to capture the DLNA streams, but am not sure how to go about that.
Mods: I see you moved this to Q&A. I think perhaps it would be a better fit in Development, now?
Tried flashing a different ROM, Frankin-Twiz Final. It has allshare removed. TwonkyServer Mobile had Unrecoverable Error on startup. So I restored to stock.
(someone has since posted a dlna.apk in that thread that restores allshare)
I had to reinstall Twonky after flashing back to stock, and after that, it worked better! There must have been an update to it in the interim...
Still not perfect; there are pauses every few seconds, but it resumes from the right spot.
My best guess is that an on-the-fly transcode is happening due to the unusual 32k audio sample rate of the camcorder videos. The client device probably doesn't support that rate over dlna. I bet some client devices do, and would play the videos smoothly.
Hopefully a firmware update for the BD-C6900 player will come along that fixes it.
I acquired a Western Digital Live Plus HD player at Best Buy for $99. With the Vibrant running TwonkyServer Mobile, the WD plays all videos perfectly, even 720p!
I didn't try allshare--no reason to bother, and I like how Twonky stays running in the background and lets you do other things on the phone.
The C6900 is boxed up ready to go back to the store.
Does anyone else have this problem? When i'm farther away from my router, I download and upload just fine speedwise, but my youtube will become really slow for some reason.
If I try to stream HQ, it will only load a piece of the video at a time, and when it reaches the end of the piece, it buffers and loads a little more.
This does not happen when I'm closer to my router. What's weird is my aDownloader is showing download speeds of 150+ and up speeds of 100+, so I'm pretty sure streaming a youtube movie should not be that slow. And just to make things clear, i'm not using aDownloader and youtube simultaneously.
Sorry if this has already been reported by I tried all kind of searches and nothing comes up, but I am really surprised that I did not see anyone report this...
Here is what I found: when playing videos in apps like the Youtube App, Vimeo App or the Android embedded video player in the browser, the whites are clipped, meaning the bright parts of the image become completely white and all details are lost.
I verified this by playing the same video in both the Youtube app and then in the flash player on youtube site in the stock browser (by requesting the desktop version of the page). Same test with Vimeo app, same result. When played in the flash player, the contrast is fine and the bright parts are not blown out.
This is really annoying, all videos look way too contrasty and bright ! Even when setting the screen brightness to minimum the same thing happens, no matter what power mode I choose. Seems to be a problem with the Hardware Video codecs maybe ?
ibabob said:
Sorry if this has already been reported by I tried all kind of searches and nothing comes up, but I am really surprised that I did not see anyone report this...
Here is what I found: when playing videos in apps like the Youtube App, Vimeo App or the Android embedded video player in the browser, the whites are clipped, meaning the bright parts of the image become completely white and all details are lost.
I verified this by playing the same video in both the Youtube app and then in the flash player on youtube site in the stock browser (by requesting the desktop version of the page). Same test with Vimeo app, same result. When played in the flash player, the contrast is fine and the bright parts are not blown out.
This is really annoying, all videos look way too contrasty and bright ! Even when setting the screen brightness to minimum the same thing happens, no matter what power mode I choose. Seems to be a problem with the Hardware Video codecs maybe ?
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I don't have this issue but for some reason YouTube videos barely work on many prime. It plays for 2 seconds then buffers its not even a wifi issue because my wifi is fine i noticed my partners touchpad w/ ICS wont even play these videos as well. Is YouTube not compatible with ICS?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
Me too!!! My prime arrive Friday and the first thing I do was the update. Then i won't play any video from stock or other browser. Just a white or gray screen appears.
Hey guys,
Got my Prime 3 days ago, everything is working as expected (Amazing product) except one slight problem.
I've been trying to watch embedded video in the stock browser and I seem to be having issues. I'm using stock browser, with the latest flash player installed.
When I get to the video, the screen shows blank and I see in both screen sides a 1 centimeter of distorted colors, which seems to be part of the video itself, but not organized. In full screen view I just see it blank.
When I refresh sometime I actually see the video frozen on some image.
I refresh, switch quality for dozens of times before I get a normal video.
Could someone test the following streaming website for me? mobafire.com/streams (It's League Of Legends game streaming)
(I'm showing as a new user so I couldn't get the link itself posted yet, just add www in the beginning please)
Just choose any stream there, there are around 10 always.
I want to understand if it's only happening on my prime.
Thanks in advance.
Guy?
Anyone encountered this behavior? Could anyone take a minute or two to test the video I mentioned above on his prime?
yes this week end i would watch live soccer on a website with flashplayer
the video was very laggy no possible to pu on full screen the screen was blank
adobe flashplayer was not very good on ics
Also experienced this on both stock browser and Dolphin HD.
One thing I've noticed is that if the page has just one embedded video, no problemo. Plays perfect. Also, don't try to zoom in on the video until after the video starts playing.
But when you have more than one embedded video, it has serious audio sync and loading issues. Oh and trying to full-screen from anything BUT the youtube app will give you terrible results.
I'll give it a shot to try and wait until the stream already starts playing before I fullscreen, but I doubt if it will change anything...
No I don't mean fullscreen, I mean zoom. Fullscreen will always fail miserably. Zoom, yannow, screen-pinching, can get you pretty close to fullscreen.
I see, I'll give it a shot thanks
Can someone that has all video working correctly give the streaming above a shot? I'm particularly interested to know how long, if any it takes you to get a normally working stream.
I have problems watching embedded youtube videos on the stock ICS browser. My experience... If I click play on the video, only the sound plays and the video doesn't appear. If I refresh the browser page, it always seems to work the second go around with no issue.
Not sure why it doesn't load correctly the first time around.
Hello, I originally posted this on r/androidquestions on reddit but received no responses in well over a couple of months. Thought I'd try my luck here even though I never get replies. ;p
I got this weird issue on all my devices where after a certain point the video freezes, buffers for ~8 seconds, plays for a couple and repeat. This is not video specific and changing the quality does not fix this, it just makes the problem appear later on. In HQ quality, after about 1:45 minutes of playing flawlessly it starts buffering the whole damn time. SQ quality can play up to 3-4 minutes before any issues arise.
This is on a broad range of devices, both mine and those of friends. My own Samsung Galaxy S2 running CM10.1 and Cube U30GT running CM10, but had the issue on stock, and a stock Galaxy Note and HTC Hero 2.
Other info. It's not network related. Happens on both wifi and 3g and on different connections/ISPs. My own Internet connection clocks up to 20mbps and has no problem playing any YT video on my PC. Other "streaming" video stuff work great. Twitch.tv plays great as does dailymotion. Other players, other than the default YT app, have no issues playing videos even on HQ. YT through the browser works fine but somehow doesn't let me switch to HQ and the "UI" generally feels bad. Feedly (which is great btw), has a sort of plugin that uses the YT app to play videos natively. Any videos played in the feedly app, using this "plugin" play great even in HQ, which is weird. I've tried reinstalling, uninstalling, stalling, killing, maiming, clearing data+cache, completely wiping the devices and sacrificing firstborns to Lucifer.
This feels like a caching issue of the youtube app. It feels like it starts caching up to a point (playing great in the process) and at some points cache fills up and starts deleting in order to make space to cache further. That leads to the pause and buffering of the video.
Has anyone else experienced issues like this and has managed to fix them? Does anyone techsavvy enough know if it's indeed a cache issue and how to bypass it?
bumping.
Seriously, I've never got a reply to any of my threads.
Isn't news. YouTube app sucks. I have an iPhone and frequent Apple forums quite often and its preferred to use the YouTube web app or 3rd party app over the actual app. Just getting throttled. My biggest gripe with Androids YouTube app is there is no way for it to use SD as the default resolution.
I just tried the WiFi optimization with no effect. If I wait a couple hours it will stream HD no problem once network traffic slows down. I have a 30 mbs home connection which I can get those speeds easily, usually much higher, but not to a YouTube server between 3pm - 11pm.