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As most tabs don't have these features so i wanted to ask the question for who actually got the flyer ,does the flyer has Fm radio , vibrate feedback and 1080p video playback
As qualcomm lists the qsd8255
Processor with 720p only @30fbs playback
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As most tabs don't have these features so i wanted to ask the question for who actually got the flyer ,does the flyer has Fm radio , vibrate feedback and 1080p video playback
As qualcomm lists the qsd8255
Processor with 720p only @30fbs playback
Thanks and regards
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Sadly, there is no FM Radio, however, I cannot coment on the others because I have not checked them out.
FM RADIO: SW NO. HW maybe
I do not see an FM radio application already on the device so I'm not sure if it has the HW or not. I do remember previous devices having the HW but HTC not bundling the application.
1080p Playback: No
I've tried multiple files(all same format which was mp4) with multiple players and I have never been able to get 1080p playback to work smoothly. I've tried HW decoding and SW decoding with no success. I tried the same files on my viliv N5 which has HW decoding and they played back flawlessly.
720p Playback: Sorta, needs more testing.
It plays relatively smoothly but i've only tried 720p mkv files. I would say that frame drops are noticeable but not horrible. I don't have many 720p files that aren't mkvs so I will have to do some more testing.
Haptic feedback: Yes
I get haptic feedback on the capacitive buttons and the OSK. I'm not sure which tablets don't have this because my galaxy tab had it too.
Hope it helps.
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FM RADIO: SW NO. HW maybe
I do not see an FM radio application already on the device so I'm not sure if it has the HW or not. I do remember previous devices having the HW but HTC not bundling the application.
1080p Playback: No
I've tried multiple files(all same format which was mp4) with multiple players and I have never been able to get 1080p playback to work smoothly. I've tried HW decoding and SW decoding with no success. I tried the same files on my viliv N5 which has HW decoding and they played back flawlessly.
720p Playback: Sorta, needs more testing.
It plays relatively smoothly but i've only tried 720p mkv files. I would say that frame drops are noticeable but not horrible. I don't have many 720p files that aren't mkvs so I will have to do some more testing.
Haptic feedback: Yes
I get haptic feedback on the capacitive buttons and the OSK. I'm not sure which tablets don't have this because my galaxy tab had it too.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks allot for your reply both of you but (10.1 tablets don't have haptic feed back ) ,another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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Thanks allot for your reply both of you but (10.1 tablets don't have haptic feed back ) ,another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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I actually never tried those 1080p files on the Galaxy tab and I don't have it anymore So the haptic feedback isn't in honeycomb or something? Or do the devices just not implement it?
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I actually never tried those 1080p files on the Galaxy tab and I don't have it anymore So the haptic feedback isn't in honeycomb or something? Or do the devices just not implement it?
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No it isn't implemented I think because of its huge size need bigger vibrator
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another thing does the 1080p videos you try on flyer works on galaxy tab or same issue.
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Just want to chime in regarding video playback since I was able to do some testing on my friend's Flyer the day he got it.
1) 1080p h.264 MP4 file encoded to Blu-Ray spec (high profile Level 4.1, with 4 ref frames), bitrate around 5000kbps - does not play properly on the Flyer, but plays on the Galaxy Tab with no or very little frame drop.
2) 720p h.264 MKV file encoded to high profile Level 4.1 with 4 ref frames ~2000kbps with flac audio and subtitles - plays fine using moboplayer on the flyer (didn't notice any frame dropping) and also plays well on the Galaxy Tab.
I should try out a 720p with 8 ref frames and see what happens as that is the max you can do with high profile 4.1 h264 videos at that resolution. I'm not entirely sure on this, but I think as you have h264 encode video with more ref frames it takes more power to decode.
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Just want to chime in regarding video playback since I was able to do some testing on my friend's Flyer the day he got it.
1) 1080p h.264 MP4 file encoded to Blu-Ray spec (high profile Level 4.1, with 4 ref frames), bitrate around 5000kbps - does not play properly on the Flyer, but plays on the Galaxy Tab with no or very little frame drop.
2) 720p h.264 MKV file encoded to high profile Level 4.1 with 4 ref frames ~2000kbps with flac audio and subtitles - plays fine using moboplayer on the flyer (didn't notice any frame dropping) and also plays well on the Galaxy Tab.
I should try out a 720p with 8 ref frames and see what happens as that is the max you can do with high profile 4.1 h264 videos at that resolution. I'm not entirely sure on this, but I think as you have h264 encode video with more ref frames it takes more power to decode.
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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I think the galaxy tab playback is much better, at least out of the box. All of those codecs and such are built in and the player itself is much better!
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Does that means that video playback on galaxy tab is better or it is only a matter of drivers
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I believe it is better and not just due to software but hardware. These devices do their best video playback when using hardware acceleration. The 8255 chipset found on the flyer was never deisgned for 1080p playback
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I believe it is better and not just due to software but hardware. These devices do their best video playback when using hardware acceleration. The 8255 chipset found on the flyer was never deisgned for 1080p playback
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And, the nice thing is that Samsung got their Hummingbird SoC DivX HD certified which means it can play mkv files natively out of the box as long as they are encoded to within blu-ray spec (no higher than level 4.1 for 1080p video).
But, the Flyer is no slouch when it comes to 720p video and it looks great on the 7" display. You can always use Handbrake or DVDCatalyst to reconvert video unless your computer isn't powerful enough to do so.
The dual-core Snapdragon is able to do 1080p playback as vague as that sounds.
I recently aquired the Flyer and I'm really dissapointed with the playback functionality. All of the 720p-res videoclips I've tried are choppy as hell (using Mobo, since the stock player is crap). It doesn't even play some .avi-files! Do I need to tweak something?
Have you tried Real Player? I have more or less tried just about every player in the market and have found RP to be the best.
Better than dice player? I played a 1920x800 7mbps file on my sensation without any skips. It has a problem with mp4 but I think its because its using the default decoding method for that format. The file i played was an avi and an mkv both extremely smooth.
Thank's guys for your tips on video players! I'll try them out.
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Better than dice player? I played a 1920x800 7mbps file on my sensation without any skips. It has a problem with mp4 but I think its because its using the default decoding method for that format. The file i played was an avi and an mkv both extremely smooth.
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Dice player is awesome! Good tip! Well worth 3$ or so.
i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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Anandtech says it's amazing at playing high quality video. this was an issue for me.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
crap, guess now i have to buy the prime
Plus in the what would you like to know about the prime thread a member already tested this as he has a prime already. It was mkv and 1080p. Played flawlessly. He made a video on it. He has at least 3 you tube vids reviewing the prime hands on.
Check out his videos in that thread n you will see.
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tegra3 has the ability to play high profile 1080p videos, the prime should do just fine with pretty much anything you can throw at it...
Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
When someone goes to play with a demo at gamestop, they should take with them a micro sd that has a high profile 1080p mkv and see how that plays on the prime. They should add other video players on the card and install them and see which one plays better with the high profile mkv. Yes I know that reviews have said this or that, but having someone that is not part of any review circle would be grateful to many.
I would do this but I'm not popping my head in that gamestop store after getting that dump.
this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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That guy posted two above you. lol
oh hahaha. wasn't paying attention i guess =P
I wonder how Prime will play avi files. I find that playing avi on TF101 is fine but the quality is very bad - I get a lot of artifacts - like it had a grid of dots over it. Probably because players use simplified decoding algoritms? Or maybe it's because Tegra2 lacks NEON? I also think it should be able to send 1080p signal to the screen even if the video is below 1080p (and different than 720p) - otherwise it will be scaled twice - once to 720p by the Prime and second time by the monitor itself - it will probably degrade quality. (well, but on the other hand I can just stick to 720p and 1080p videos which should be great)
Tegra3 does have NEON so no worries.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
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I had this same problem with a 1080p .MOV file off of my DSLR as well as a MKV file. I haven't tried mxplayer, but I will when I get home. I've been looking forward to being able to play MKV files without having to convert or manage with iTunes. Like Sinatra sang, "I'll do it my way!"
somehow I can't copy mkv to my asus prime... it keeps saying explorer error and it restarts the explorer
I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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The first three high profile 720p MKV files I tried with BSPlayer worked flawlessly. Same videos will not play at all on my Xoom.
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Will do when I get home. I will also try the same videos on my SGSII for comparison.
My hunch is that the hw decoder refuses to decode the video stream. Perhaps this is controlled entirely by the android system and not the video player app.
Hello,
I know there seems to be some sort of issue with Tegra 2 chipsets not decoding video properly but I read that with the right codec and video players you can play 720p high profile MKVs/MP4s, how can I do that?
Also, does it matter what ROM I'm on? Like CM7 vs Stock MotoBlur? I'm on CM7 and I tried a few video apps and most face some sort of problem with 720p videos stuttering and whatnot.
Thanks.
Hmmm
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That's one of the most important issue of the Atrix.
I can't play most of my HD anime videos fluently on my Atrix because the hardware doesn't support high quality HD mkv videos.
But I've heard the Samsung S2 does.... -.-
And that makes me angry!
Anyway if you not afraid of trying HD videos on your Atrix, you should try 'MX video player' and 'V player' (both need separate codecs).
Both are great but 'V player' is the only player which can show subtitles from mkv videos which I stream with my w-lan router from my external hard drive.
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If you haven't yet, try MX Video player. It uses some software trickery and plays most if not all of my hd videos beside being the best video player in many aspects. I tested on the phone only so don't know what the output to an external monitor would be.
Don't forget to install the right codec and always toggle 'software fast mode' on the screen if videos get stuck. It also gives you the ability to zoom into the picture.
Regards
Edit: Blizzard22 - I much prefer MX to VPlayer. Especially as the former seems more optimized for tegra...
Not sure if it has problems with subtitles in certain containers... until now subtitles worked for me and their rendering is very pleasing.
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I have both player and I personally prefer MX video player but the subtitles are missing if you stream your videos with mx.
V player can show the subtitles and that's why I prefer V player.
But for normal use I definitely prefer mx before visiting player.
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I think this is a problem of the Tegra, High Profile videos not work with HW decoding, I have tryed MX player, but, all the times it loses sync or drop frames.
the temp solution for me is recode videos to Baseline profile in 720p
VLC is coming for android, maybe that will be the golden egg.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
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VLC is coming for android, maybe that will be the golden egg.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
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if they use HW decoding, but will be stuck on Baseline Profile again
The two players I have the most luck with are Dice and Mobo. Try them out.
Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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Need more information. MKV is a container codec, not a video or audio codec. What is the video and audio codec, and is it using something like 10bit color?
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Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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I've seen that happen on Epic Touch with most mkv format videos.
Try RockPlayer.
Yeah I was also having problems with certain video files. A couple of .m4v's that I tried to put on my phone would crash the video app if I put in or pulled out my headphones while the video was playing. Seems to be isolated to particular file types/codecs.
what is the res of the video you are trying to watch. what is the actual video codec on it and are there subtitles?
You could try VLC for android:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDMsIm9yZy52aWRlb2xhbi52bGMuYmV0YXY3bmVvbiJd
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Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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Try something for me , connect phone to your PC thro USB , and then try playing video on your phone , report results ?
I'm not sure how to see what is the actual video and audio codec, how do i check it?
The video files are mkv 720p blu ray rips.
I tried connected my phone to my pc via usb and tried playing video like you said and i couldnt really see a difference.
I think we need to wait for the video player app developers to produce extensions that work with or provide true hardware acceleration for our new hardware, the best player I've found right now for the GS3 is BSplayer lite.
Ironically BSplayer gave me the worst performance on the GS2.
anyway try BSplayer lite on your GS3.
720p bluray rips will kill most portable devices they are MUCH higher bitrate than a standard 720p movie. you need to downsize them if you want to play them smothly
Try MXplayer with their ARM7 codec pack.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=mxplayer&c=apps
I just converted a bluray movie down to 1280x536 with Handbrake and it plays like butter.
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Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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I also experienced problems with the 720p .mkv files I ripped my blurays to for portable use - but moreso with sound being out of sync with the video. I had the same problem with my GS2 when I upgraded to 4.0. I re-ripped my whole collection using the same compression rate into .mp4 and they all play flawlessly now. Anything I have that is .mkv simply doesn't play nice on both my GS2 and GS3 with 4.0.
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I also experienced problems with the 720p .mkv files I ripped my blurays to for portable use - but moreso with sound being out of sync with the video. I had the same problem with my GS2 when I upgraded to 4.0. I re-ripped my whole collection using the same compression rate into .mp4 and they all play flawlessly now. Anything I have that is .mkv simply doesn't play nice on both my GS2 and GS3 with 4.0.
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MKV is not a codec...it's just a container format like AVI.
From my experiance/experimenting biggest culprit is always "stagefright" being enabled , screws up hardware decoding on many levels. On my ATT GS3 , it was enabled by default, i could not play my 720p 60fps music videos , i got "Blade Buddy" it lets you mess with some system settings easily (however i dont know witch setting specifically triggered it), after messing with it and doing soft reboot , my GS3 now performs as it should , can play even higher then 720p , latest one i tried was 1440x810 @ 60fps High profile H264 , all smooth and nice , [email protected] was to much though , all common <=30fps videos play problem free.
In Blade Buddy under Basic settings i toggled off "Compatibility Mode"
Under Advanced settings i toggled off stagefright , then hitting menu button clicking apply , and selecting soft reboot.
There must be something wrong with your setup or codecs or i dont know what because i have a NAS and i STREAM 720p blu-ray rips of about 5gbs a movie off my HDD attached to my router, i stream them and get 0 lag, even when i advance the movie, it takes 1/4 of a second to buffer and play the movie, and again i get 0 lag. i use BS player Lite
so its not the phone, trust me
I have played mkv videos and I have no problem ... the video format is hd 720 mp4
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So it seems that some people can play 720 blu ray rips just fine with no problem while others can't and need to change the format. I find this rather odd. I haven't tried streaming these videos but ill try and report back but I think it would be worse because if it can't handle playing from the device the added pressure of streaming would make it worse. Somebody mentioned audio being out of sync, I don't have that problem at all. And it's not like the video is severely laggy its like it plays but it stutters as it goes to the next frame its so hard to explain ill see if I can record it and show you guys.
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for a 720p bluray rip/hd rip movie, i still run it through handbrake to get the file size down. i set res to 1280xtakewhatevericanget from the original source. output as mp4 in that case (still h.264). i tend to crank the audio up a bit too, since it helps on airplanes or whatever with movie dialogue.
i haven't really tried dragging over a full on 4+gb 720p blu ray rip .mkv file...then again mtp sucks ass, so i'll do anything i can to get file size down.
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for a 720p bluray rip/hd rip movie, i still run it through handbrake to get the file size down. i set res to 1280xtakewhatevericanget from the original source. output as mp4 in that case (still h.264). i tend to crank the audio up a bit too, since it helps on airplanes or whatever with movie dialogue.
i haven't really tried dragging over a full on 4+gb 720p blu ray rip .mkv file...then again mtp sucks ass, so i'll do anything i can to get file size down.
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Fat32 maxes out with 2GB files.
it's not the mkv that's causing it's issue, it's what's inside the mkv that's causing the problems. not just codec but bitrate and other small things could matter. Also, if it's software and not hardware like the ipad, even if meets the criteria hardware wise, it can cause an issue.
So I have some videos I want to save onto my Galaxy Player 5.0. When I play it, its super laggy. running at about 4 frames per second. What video resolution of the highest quality, and be able to watch smoothly?
The resolution of the display itself is 800x480, so I would personally downsize any 720p or 1080p movies to 480p/800px width to save space while practically preserving quality.
Though I'm no expert, I would recommend trying a different video player as I assume you're using the stock player. It might not help since the stock is hardware accelerated to my knowledge, but I've had framerate issues with video players that software decode certain videos, and worse when it's high-resolution. Dice Player is a great free app that has a good menu UI and versatile hardware decoding support and has given me smooth playback on all of my videos, even with HD, on my 4.2.
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Try the mx player app from the play store. Great free player