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I'm going to return my tablet to Amazon and wait for something better. I have been using the 10.1 non stop for the past two weeks and it is awesome. The few problems it has are with HC and not the hardware. However, I feel the processing power needs to be a bit higher for 1280x720 resolution and we need more video codecs. Nvidia say they won't make the same mistake with the upcoming quadcore, and since it's only 2 months away, the wait feels justified to me.
Don't get me wrong, this tablet owns all other HC tablets at the moment. I just would be very pissed off if the new tablets like the Amazon Hollywood appeared this Christmas and completely destroyed the performance of my 10.1 along with playing nearly any video I copy onto it.
I urge anyone still within their return period to consider sending it back. It would be one thing if the new tablets were 5 or 6 months out, but 2 months is too close.
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I'm going to return my tablet to Amazon and wait for something better. I have been using the 10.1 non stop for the past two weeks and it is awesome. The few problems it has are with HC and not the hardware. However, I feel the processing power needs to be a bit higher for 1280x720 resolution and we need more video codecs. Nvidia say they won't make the same mistake with the upcoming quadcore, and since it's only 2 months away, the wait feels justified to me.
Don't get me wrong, this tablet owns all other HC tablets at the moment. I just would be very pissed off if the new tablets like the Amazon Hollywood appeared this Christmas and completely destroyed the performance of my 10.1 along with playing nearly any video I copy onto it.
I urge anyone still within their return period to send it back. It would be one thing if the new tablets were 5 or 6 months out, but 2 months is too close.
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You do understand that if you actually lived by that way of thinking, you would literally (seriously, joking aside) never own a tablet...? Because lets say you were thinking about the original G-Tab when it first came out...but then heard that Honeycomb was on its way, so you waited...then Honeycomb shows up with its array of tablets (the Tegra 2 generation)...and as tempting and highly-praised as they may be, you then hear about the next round of Honeycomb tablets (with quadcores )...but wait! not all that long after that should be the Ice Cream Sandwich debut with yet ANOTHER suite of tablets (with maybe hexa- or octo-core chips! ), so I'm guessing you should wait for THOSE to come out, right?!?
No offense man, but I really wish people would come up with more logical, legitimate, and justifiable excuses for not buying new pieces of electronics, because face it - it is a 100% certainty that within 6 months of your purchase of said piece of electronics, it WILL be outdated to some extent. Like it or not, it is a virtual guarantee that within that amount of time the successor generation of products (in this case tablets) will hit the market with better specs and features than that of the product you bought. And that is a stone-cold fact something that all of us as fans of electronics and gizmos simply have to come to grips with.
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You do understand that if you actually lived by that way of thinking, you would literally (seriously, joking aside) never own a tablet...? Because lets say you were thinking about the original G-Tab when it first came out...but then heard that Honeycomb was on its way, so you waited...then Honeycomb shows up with its array of tablets (Tegra 2)...and as tempting as they may be, you then hear about the next round of Honeycomb tablets (with quadcores )...but wait! not all that long after that should be the Ice Cream Sandwich debut with yet ANOTHER suite of tablets (with maybe hexa- or octo-core chips! ), so I'm guessing you should wait for THOSE to come out, right?!?
No offense man, but I really wish people would come up with more logical, legitimate, and justifiable excuses for not buying new pieces of electronics, because face it - it is a 100% certainty that within 6 months of your purchase of said piece of electronics, it WILL be outdated to some extent. And that is a stone-cold fact something that all of us as fans of electronics and gizmos simply have to come to grips with.
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If you read my OP, you would see my reasoning which should be more than justified with the next slew of more powerful tablets. 6 months is fine to me. Not 2 months, though.
I'll give you an example. I recently built myself a computer and started out with an X58 and a Core i7-950. About a month and a half later, the new P67 boards came out and that awesome i7-2600K with them. I asked on many forums what I should do and most said I should be happy with what I had. I ignored that advice and couldn't be happier. But, when I was building the 2600K rig, everyone kept telling me I was wasting my time because Z68 boards. I don't care about the upcoming Z68 boards because I'm very pleased with my PC. It's far superior to the i7-950 build and it will last for quite some time.
Tegra2 just isn't powerful enough. I can't even use a live wallpaper without stuff becoming sluggish and you can't argue that one. Try moving an icon around with a live wallpaper running.
Their pricey toys...not investments.
Well, in my case they sure are an investment literally, doing post-graduation the laod of coursebooks is unbearable, these a step ahead from usual e-ink crap have helped me a lot, adding the annotation feature. It ain't mere multimedia box where you throw all 1080p movies (God knows from where!) and expect playback or else failure. Consider the excellent resolution, the browser experience with flash and excellent apps around (actually mean the THD games!) plus QUick office HD (as free!!! take this iPAD) and pdf readers like Repligo and eZpdf.
One man's bad experience doesn't justify the claimed redundancy of such a wonderful piece of technology! Quad-cores ahead, sure let'em on, more fun is ahead, massive multitasking and profound browser experience with emerging social networks like google+ and prevalent Fbook!
In short, Screw you man! I am keeping mine!
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Well, in my case they sure are an investment literally, doing post-graduation the laod of coursebooks is unbearable, these a step ahead from usual e-ink crap have helped me a lot, adding the annotation feature. It ain't mere multimedia box where you throw all 1080p movies (God knows from where!) and expect playback or else failure. Consider the excellent resolution, the browser experience with flash and excellent apps around (actually mean the THD games!) plus QUick office HD (as free!!! take this iPAD) and pdf readers like Repligo and eZpdf.
One man's bad experience doesn't justify the claimed redundancy of such a wonderful piece of technology! Quad-cores ahead, sure let'em on, more fun is ahead, massive multitasking and profound browser experience with emerging social networks like google+ and prevalent Fbook!
In short, Screw you man! I am keeping mine!
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I definitely love the very last sentence of this.
Now see I'm not saying the tablet is a bad experience. But I think it's a good idea to hold out a few months. It's the same thing with phones. I really like the Sensation and the Evo 3D, but the Nexus is coming this Christmas too. I've been patiently waiting for it.
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I definitely love the very last sentence of this.
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Effing priceless
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Now see I'm not saying the tablet is a bad experience. But I think it's a good idea to hold out a few months. It's the same thing with phones. I really like the Sensation and the Evo 3D, but the Nexus is coming this Christmas too. I've been patiently waiting for it.
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So are you honestly going to say that right about when the time comes for you to buy the phone you're holding out for and you hear rumors swirling about the next phone after that (and this will happen, by the way, it has happen with every single major period of Android-related releases so far), that you won't be tempted to do the same thing over again (that is, hold off until that comes out?). You seem to be missing the point - if you subscribe to this it will unarguably be an endless circle. And it is by no means your fault necessarily, its the Apples, Samsungs, HTCs, LGs, Sonys, Motorolas, Toshibas, etc of the world who are coming out with newer generations of productions, not yearly, or even every 6 months, but most often even less than that. Of course the good side of that is the technology is progressing super fast these days, so I guess that's the tradeoff that we all have to live with - major progression and innovation of tech but with each piece getting trumped by the next every few months
I can honestly say I will get the Nexus 3 or whatever it will be called, regardless of upcoming rumors around that time. As long as it's not done like the Nexus S was. A clone of a phone already out.
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I can honestly say I will get the Nexus 3 or whatever it will be called, regardless of upcoming rumors around that time. As long as it's not done like the Nexus S was. A clone of a phone already out.
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Well I can definitely agree on you with the Nexus S - I am an N1 owner, from the day of launch, and I have yet to see another new phone on the market since then that can hold a candle to that phone, period. Now that being said, we'll all have to wait and see what the N3 will be all about. If you recall, the Nexus S was rumored to have quite a lot going for it...until it saw the light of day, at which point we were all like, "what?". So clearly the N3 has some really big shoes to fill, and hopefully those developing it realize this completely.
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Now see I'm not saying the tablet is a bad experience. But I think it's a good idea to hold out a few months. It's the same thing with phones. I really like the Sensation and the Evo 3D, but the Nexus is coming this Christmas too. I've been patiently waiting for it.
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I've been waiting for a Verizon phone with a dual core and LTE forever now and guess what, it'll probably be outdated when it arrives, maybe I should hold off for a quad-core, kal-el, or maybe a 6-core or just maybe wait 25 years in hopes that phones are so advanced every new one will be just like the others (wont happen). Buy now and use it for a few year and sell it on ebay and pay a couple more dollars to get the next gen.
There will always be something newer and faster. And just like our tab, they too will not be perfect.
I definitely understand the point you guys are making. But I'm not concerned about having the newest and best. It's about getting something that works well and also satisfies. If I'm dropping 500 dollars, I want to be completely happy with my purchase and I'm not with the 10.1.
EDIT: I'm going to sign up for that AMEX membership so I can have that option in the future as well.
I never understood the point of threads like these. OP has an opinion; others have their own. What's the point of a poll? And more to the point, regarding the following quote:
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I urge anyone still within their return period to send it back.
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F-you, OP. You don't have the right to "urge" me to do anything. Your opinion is your own -- but when you try to impose it on me, we've got a problem.
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You don't have the right to "urge" me to do anything. Your opinion is your own -- but when you try to impose it on me, we've got a problem.
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Exactly this!
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I never understood the point of threads like these. OP has an opinion; others have their own. What's the point of a poll? And more to the point, regarding the following quote:
F-you, OP. You don't have the right to "urge" me to do anything. Your opinion is your own -- but when you try to impose it on me, we've got a problem.
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I can see how that came off wrong. What I meant is that I urge people to consider it.
The point of a thread and poll like this was to see if anyone else was thinking of doing the same thing as me. That's why we have the poll option.
Don't get so worked up over something on the internet. It causes stress.
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I'll give you an example. I recently built myself a computer and started out with an X58 and a Core i7-950. About a month and a half later, the new P67 boards came out and that awesome i7-2600K with them. I asked on many forums what I should do and most said I should be happy with what I had. I ignored that advice and couldn't be happier. But, when I was building the 2600K rig, everyone kept telling me I was wasting my time because Z68 boards. I don't care about the upcoming Z68 boards because I'm very pleased with my PC. It's far superior to the i7-950 build and it will last for quite some time.
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I understand your thought process, but herein lies the problem:
You returned your old PC and upgraded it and I am sure you are extremely pleased with what you have. Now, if you would have kept your i7-950 build you would have also been extremely pleased with it.
With the way hardware technology is advancing, software developers cannot keep up. How many applications do you have that take advantage of the extra speed of that newer generation processor? Heck, how many applications are there that actually take use of anything higher than a dual core processor? Not many - and in your case, there's probably only a handful of applications that will use the newest generation processors to their potential. In all likelihood you don't use these, and even if you do, you only use them extremely rarely.
The same thing is happening in the Tablet field, although to a stronger extent. I actually don't know of any applications that take use of the dual-core processors in newer generation phones and tablets. In fact, Froyo and Gingerbread don't even take use of dual-core processors at the kernel level. Applications being built for mobile devices just aren't likely to be designed with multi-threading in mind.
Keep this in mind when you are deciding to take your tablet back - but I wish you good luck nonetheless.
You bring up some good points. I play a lot of PC games and noticed a good amount of difference, but outside of games not much.
And there's is a good chance I could get *screwed* with a quad core tablet that overheats and has horrible battery life. We'll see.
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I can see how that came off wrong. What I meant is that I urge people to consider it.
The point of a thread and poll like this was to see if anyone else was thinking of doing the same thing as me. That's why we have the poll option.
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Why do you think you need to urge people to consider returning their Tabs? We're not children who need to be reminded of our options as consumers. Your ex post facto reinterpretation is nearly as patronizing as your original post.
While I give you credit for acting civil in your posts -- an unusual accomplishment in this genre of threads -- it still appears to me that you're just looking to provoke polarizing responses. Whether the Tab is or isn't a good purchase for someone is matter of personal opinion. No poll or discussion is going to change that.
which tablet do you have in.mind as an upgrade for this?
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Do you mind to share why you are thinking of upgrading or replacing?
I am a very satisfied user of the GT10.1 - there is no need to rush for upgrades or replacement now.
Maybe next year with ICS and Quad-Core CPU's there will be some reason to upgrade.
I would recommend to you to sit down and enjoy your GT10.1 until a significantly better and more powerful tablet becomes available.
There is no better option today - simple as that!
If you don't like some minor lags and bugs present on Honeycomb, you can try the iPad2. I tried and gave up - I really don't adapt to Apple's limited iOS, I like the freedom to customize and play with the OS - and only Android can give me that.
And looking on other Android tablets, I went for the GT10.1 because of its weight and thickness - which was important to me, because my primary use is for ebook handheld reading.
My sincere advice - enjoy your tablet and wait for mid-2012 - there will be plenty of new options by then!
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Do you mind to share why you are thinking of upgrading or replacing?
I am a very satisfied user of the GT10.1 - there is no need to rush for upgrades or replacement now.
Maybe next year with ICS and Quad-Core CPU's there will be some reason to upgrade.
I would recommend to you to sit down and enjoy your GT10.1 until a significantly better and more powerful tablet becomes available.
There is no better option today - simple as that!
If you don't like some minor lags and bugs present on Honeycomb, you can try the iPad2. I tried and gave up - I really don't adapt to Apple's limited iOS, I like the freedom to customize and play with the OS - and only Android can give me that.
And looking on other Android tablets, I went for the GT10.1 because of its weight and thickness - which was important to me, because my primary use is for ebook handheld reading.
My sincere advice - enjoy your tablet and wait for mid-2012 - there will be plenty of new options by then!
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Man I couldn't have said it any better myself!!!
I'm with you m8, I think most people who post asking when the next os update is coming out or what the next device your going to upgrade to are really missing out. Instead of worrying about all that... Just enjoy.
And in my honest opinion the GT10. 1 is on the top of the heap right now... I had an Xoom for a week, took it back. I have a EVO View 4G that I use for work and my Tab knocks both of them out of the water.
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Instead of replacing I like to have more than one. I was tempted by Sony S1 but held myself from buying it. (Just for PSX games. But no HDMI on board.) I had a Transformer for a week. I have a GTAB 7 which I rarely use now. I love 10.1, but I miss the sim, and sd slots there. USB adapter is not the best solution. I really dont care how thin or light it is. My next tablet will not be a Samsung this time. I am really tired of waiting for them to update the firmware. I did manual update for Gtab7. S1 is getting 3.2 update now. Xoom and others too. I think I will wait this time for a quad core.... and I am very tempted for a windows 8 slate, but market and battery issues with W8 is a question mark.
I am in the camp of loving my tab. I don't even think about other tablets. I picked mine up on launch day in the u.s. and in the 3 months that I have had it we received the touchwiz update. With word of ICS coming this fall I see no reason for Samsung to spend any resources on honeycomb 3.2, really what is the point to spending all those development resources on 3.2 when everybody will be moving to ICS?
You also have to wonder just how much improvement the new processors will affect what tablets can do. You will hear people say that newer tablets can do this or that but if you look at how technology evolves, the improvement comes in steps, not giant leaps. I personally am not going to drop $500 plus on a new tablet and accessories every year, although Best Buy would love that. Did you buy a new desktop computer every year? This doesn't just pertain to android either, other than weight and a crappy camera, what does the ipad 2 do that the first can't?
I bet in one year in the transformer 2 or xoom 2 forums there will be a thread that reads, "was upgrading really worth it?" Or "why is there only a handful of apps that utilize the quad core?"
I also understand that there are people who absolutely have to have the newest tech and play around with it. Like a hobby. But then there are also others who just never will be satisfied with what they have.
Personally I think I will wait and upgrade every two years like my phones so that you can see marked improvement and give time for developers to increase the amount of content that is compatible with newer devices. Sure I can want more ports and not just a 30 pin connector but I knew this when I bought the tab, so I can't really complain about it. Long story short- I use my tab every day, getting my moneys worth, see you in two years on another forum.
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Depending on how the Next gen honeycomb tablets bring to the gameboard i might just wait it out for a ipad 3... personally i own a galaxy tab 10.1 atm its really good serves all my needs except for hdmi output...
I am eagerly awaiting the HP Touchpad 2.
More seriously, I just dropped several hundred on the Samsung 10.1 a few months ago so why bother with crippling my enjoyment by worrying about obsolescence? There will no doubt be something newer and better soon enough, but I doubt it will be able to do anything more other than this one and feature only incremental improvements.
The Windows 8 Tablets will suck for home use unless they actually relase an ARM version of that OS. I wouldn't want to cuddle up on the couch with a tablet that had a cooling fan.
Lookout for the iPad 3,though. It just might be slick enough to excuse Apple's restrictions.
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Depending on how the Next gen honeycomb tablets bring to the gameboard i might just wait it out for a ipad 3... personally i own a galaxy tab 10.1 atm its really good serves all my needs except for hdmi output...
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Sorry, but today I spent hours playing Crash Bandicoot on my 55" Samsung TV. Fpse+ps3 joypad+Samsung hdmi adapter. So I am quite happy with the hdmi out. No flickering. Only I don't have all screen estate. Bars both sides.
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If I had the cash to toss around I would seriously be looking at the Toshiba Excite that's about to come out. Don't know too much about specs but it has on board microUSB, USB, and a microSD card slot, on a surprisingly thin body. That would be pretty cool.
xoom2 for me, i've had the xoom but took it back and now i have the sgt 10.1. It has been stated that a quad core ics tablet will be out before christmas so i will probably take back this sgt and wait for that.
Interesting article. ASUS is coming out with a TF700T with a higher resolution screen and it looks like they fixed the wireless issues by no longer hiding the antennas behind the aluminum case.
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-transformer-prime-tf700t-revealed-with-1080p-display-09207646/
The article says it uses the same dock as the TF201. It is also built on the same Tegra 3 quadcore 1.3GHz processor.
People are going to get mad that you posted this again.
But we've all seen it.
Stupid resolution for a tablet, they only did it to compete with the others. The battery will suck so hard.
For Example, Galaxy Nexus has one of the worse battery life due to its resolution, it isn't a good thing. The 1280x800 is good enough or perfect for a 10.1", if you want to watch a full hd movie or whatever you use bigger screens.
thats crazy i had no idea that this was even coming out, its only been posted on here 5,000+ times..
Stupid thread.
Get XDA to make a thread for the new TF700.. then you kids can play there..
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People are going to get mad that you posted this again.
But we've all seen it.
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Oh... didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. I searched and didn't see any reference to it. Sorry for the dup post then.
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Oh... didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. I searched and didn't see any reference to it. Sorry for the dup post then.
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haaa there are about 3-4 already and one is HUGE
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Stupid resolution for a tablet, they only did it to compete with the others. The battery will suck so hard.
For Example, Galaxy Nexus has one of the worse battery life due to its resolution, it isn't a good thing. The 1280x800 is good enough or perfect for a 10.1", if you want to watch a full hd movie or whatever you use bigger screens.
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The high PPI on the Galaxy Nexus makes it very comfortable to read small text. The lower PPI on the Prime was something I noticed immediately when I got it last week. I welcome the higher resolution.
Let me know how much you like it in 7 or so months, in which you've already bought a tablet that will be obsolete in a few more months later when Tegra 4 is released.
I hate they're not giving these other devices different names. If someone tells me they own a Asus Transformer Prime they could be talking about one of like 3 or 4 different devices. It's almost as bad as saying you own a Galaxy S2, which could refer to like 8-10 different phones, some with drastically different specs.
Will people stop freaking saying 'obsolete'? This new tablet doesn't make the TF201 obsolete, and even the TF101 isn't obsolete. All these tablets still perform magnificently, and just because people feel butthurt for dumb reasons doesn't magically turn a fantastic tablet into a crappy one.
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Same as the other thread....DPI
Gnexus : 316
Macbook : 132
Ipad2 : 132
Prime : 149
Why in the hell would you want more.... when the PC monitor your typing on is less.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density
Keep dreaming. Prime will easily kick the 700 a##. we will perform better. that device running higher resolution on same exact chipset n speed. only common since that at the Prime resolution performance will be alot faster n smoother and score higher on benches. with that higher resolution, the chipset has to work twice as hard.
WTF! Luckily I still have the receipt and is only one week old. I haven't even enjoyed it as I was busy catching up on work after the holidays.
I paid $600 for my 32gb and the new one will probably be priced along those lines with better specs. I'm returning mine. These companies are really stupid, no wonder they can't compete with Apple products. They just think sh#t up and dump them into the market, as many as they can make. Forget support or quality just dump it must be their new motto. Revenues is all they care about, to make their earnings report look good for stock holders.
They are just shooting themselves in the foot. Why would I want to pay more for their brand or product when I know they have very little regard for their own product, brand, quality and better yet their customers.
Sooner or later tablets will just be another appliance, so cheap that you can simply dispose of them when your're done with it. But, at current prices I'm not splurging just for a 3-4 month enjoyment tick. I need it for work and for at least 2 years.
Well I guess, Best Buy can take my sale out of their revenues this quarter
Love the hysteria guys.
Yep, a device that won't come out for 3-6 months makes the Prime OBSOLETE!
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Love the hysteria guys.
Yep, a device that won't come out for 3-6 months makes the Prime OBSOLETE!
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Especially since about the only difference is that stupid high resolution which I see as a disadvantage in this circumstance (same chipset). Oh and what sucks the most battery juice on these devices? The display. And double the pixels need double the power.
But i guess higher numbers are always better
At least the Transformer Prime is bullet proof with it's gun metal casing.
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Especially since about the only difference is that stupid high resolution which I see as a disadvantage in this circumstance (same chipset). Oh and what sucks the most battery juice on these devices? The display. And double the pixels need double the power.
But i guess higher numbers are always better
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Huh? That's only for OLED screens. Both the TF201 and the TF700 have the same backlight tech. Controller transistor count will be higher for the 700, but it won't take any more power.
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Huh? That's only for OLED screens. Both the TF201 and the TF700 have the same backlight tech. Controller transistor count will be higher for the 700, but it won't take any more power.
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are you 100% sure that ips monitors dont need any power for the pixels only for the backlight? Seems curious to me^^ Do you have a link to a tech site or something where i can read up on that?
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Love the hysteria guys.
Yep, a device that won't come out for 3-6 months makes the Prime OBSOLETE!
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For me its not the time frame that bus me, as I am trying my best to choose the best possible device for my hard earned bucks. And then keep it for 2 years or till it dies.
As the specs goes, there are very little difference performance wise.
1. 1080p viewing kind of useless unless android starts natively reading ntfs and ext4 formatted sdcards in order to load those large 4 Gig up movie files and play them without lag. Otherwise, you would have to apply hacks and just view your own recorded 1080p video clips.
2. Fixes for wifi and gps issues are pretty strong arguments for someone to wait or choose another brand.
As I mentioned in my previous post, its all about revenues for these tech companies. They don't even bother fixing the problems of POS products they put out. They just build a new model and ask you to pay for it again. Or you can return it now and be willing to wait for 6 months till the new model comes out because you really love their brand. By then, the new model will have new problems as well for sure.
at a higher price n much later into the year first release, its not worth it. by the time theism finally comes out, the New official nvidia tegra chipset will be out. Asus will have a new tablet already with this new nvidia chipset St same time or days after A700 release. you will even be more pissed off cuz u payed more for it than we did for prime. plus prime will be way ahead developement wise. you can have the a700. My Prime is Sick!
http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...-leak-expect-it-australia-july?style_mobile=0
I'm still going for the 10.1" 1920x1080 Transformer Pad Infinity, but for people that like a 7" ( ) can go for the nexus tab.
tegra 3, fail.
an s4 silicon chipset with corresponding GPU would have been nice. exynos, not really "cutting edge" by todays performance standards.
I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way ahead it terms of developer support. That's why there are so many tegra 3 titles. And at the $200 price point this makes the kindle fire look, well, horrible. I am very pleased with the original specs. Yes krait may have been better but nvidia goes out of its way to lower price points and gets it soc in as many devices as possible. If you want something that has all the greatest hardware then u have to put out the $$$. At $200 I know the android community will flock to it and I hope consumers will to. All in all, I will get one and I hope the 7inch factor will be as useful as I think.
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only 8gb without a sd card slot is bad, really bad, why have that nice screen when you basically dont have even the space to load movies on it?
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only 8gb without a sd card slot is bad, really bad, why have that nice screen when you basically dont have even the space to load movies on it?
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I can't comprehend why Google is being so stupid with their Nexus lineup, especially tablets. I would absolutely love to use one of these on vacations/business trips with an HDMI cable to take my media with me and still watch them on a TV. I want to fill this thing up with tv shows and movies (and even music if possible) but it seems like they don't give a crap. Not including a microsd card is a freaking deal breaker every damn time.
Not to change the subject, but if we do get multiple Nexus phones from the big manufacturers later this year.. and not a single one of them has a microsd card.. I'm going to pull my hair out and scream. haha
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I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way ahead it terms of developer support. That's why there are so many tegra 3 titles. And at the $200 price point this makes the kindle fire look, well, horrible. I am very pleased with the original specs. Yes krait may have been better but nvidia goes out of its way to lower price points and gets it soc in as many devices as possible. If you want something that has all the greatest hardware then u have to put out the $$$. At $200 I know the android community will flock to it and I hope consumers will to. All in all, I will get one and I hope the 7inch factor will be as useful as I think.
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exactly. this is a great tablet at $200. i'm definitely buying one.
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only 8gb without a sd card slot is bad, really bad, why have that nice screen when you basically dont have even the space to load movies on it?
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probably just trying to get the price to produce down. that and with everything on the cloud maybe they dont think it's needed.
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I can't comprehend why Google is being so stupid with their Nexus lineup, especially tablets. I would absolutely love to use one of these on vacations/business trips with an HDMI cable to take my media with me and still watch them on a TV. I want to fill this thing up with tv shows and movies (and even music if possible) but it seems like they don't give a crap. Not including a microsd card is a freaking deal breaker every damn time.
Not to change the subject, but if we do get multiple Nexus phones from the big manufacturers later this year.. and not a single one of them has a microsd card.. I'm going to pull my hair out and scream. haha
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well then this probably isnt the tab for you. i dont think thats what they are going for. as far as the nexus devices go isnt like each major manufacturer making one? so it'll kind be up to them to include an sd card slot or not unless google requires them to exclude it.
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well then this probably isnt the tab for you. i dont think thats what they are going for. as far as the nexus devices go isnt like each major manufacturer making one? so it'll kind be up to them to include an sd card slot or not unless google requires them to exclude it.
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That's what I am afraid of. They've skimped on the last two Nexus phones. The least they could do is offer 32gb standard. The GSM Galaxy Nexus has 16gb while the CDMA versions both have 32gb.
I would prefer to go Nexus with my next phone and tablet, but Google's got to get their head out of their ass first. It's way too early to rely on the cloud for all of your media needs - especially on a tablet that is wifi only. It's asinine.
Do they have a microSD slot?
If they do, I don't see what the problem with only 8GB is. They did that so you could have a nice tablet with good specs at the price of $200. If you want more storage, just pay the $50 for a 64GB micro sd card. A 64GB variant of the tablet would probably cost $300 anyway so you'd be getting a better deal than if it was already 64GB.
As for relying on cloud storage, I hate how we're being forced to do that. I ****ing hate cloud storage since streaming with sprint's 3G is slow as hell and it wouldn't be adequate for a tablet. Cloud storage should only become a norm when we have mobile satellite internet or some sort of internet that's fast and everywhere.
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I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way ahead it terms of developer support. That's why there are so many tegra 3 titles.[...]
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I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way behind it terms of developer support. That's why there are so few ics tegra 2 roms and all of them suck. Pumping funds in game developers to make titles exclusive is not what I would call dev support. But withholding drivers and disclosing specs is exactly what I would call neglect the devs.
The guys over at Linux aren't very fond of Nvidia. Linus Trovalds (creator of Linux) says "NVIDIA has been the single worst company we've ever dealt with!" and gives a big middle finger to the company on camera.
Basically, Nvidia is making tons of money off of multiple open source linux platforms without giving anything back to the open source community.
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Do they have a microSD slot?
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as from reports, it doesnt - that's the problem.
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The guys over at Linux aren't very fond of Nvidia. Linus Trovalds (creator of Linux) says "NVIDIA has been the single worst company we've ever dealt with!" and gives a big middle finger to the company on camera.
Basically, Nvidia is making tons of money off of multiple open source linux platforms without giving anything back to the open source community.
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the same goes for most mobile gpu, bar mali 400.
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Do they have a microSD slot?
If they do, I don't see what the problem with only 8GB is. They did that so you could have a nice tablet with good specs at the price of $200. If you want more storage, just pay the $50 for a 64GB micro sd card. A 64GB variant of the tablet would probably cost $300 anyway so you'd be getting a better deal than if it was already 64GB.
As for relying on cloud storage, I hate how we're being forced to do that. I ****ing hate cloud storage since streaming with sprint's 3G is slow as hell and it wouldn't be adequate for a tablet. Cloud storage should only become a norm when we have mobile satellite internet or some sort of internet that's fast and everywhere.
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from the rumors i've seen it will be wifi only. idk though.
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Do they have a microSD slot?
If they do, I don't see what the problem with only 8GB is. They did that so you could have a nice tablet with good specs at the price of $200. If you want more storage, just pay the $50 for a 64GB micro sd card. A 64GB variant of the tablet would probably cost $300 anyway so you'd be getting a better deal than if it was already 64GB.
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I know its already been replied to, but I wanted to reiterate this. I already did buy the 64GB card and I LOVE it. I can store as much crap as I want. I've watched an entire season of Archer on planes to/from Denver and in a hotel there while on business. I basically want to be able to load a tablet up and not have to worry about running out of new stuff to watch or listen to. I was able to do that with my old Nook Color that ran CM7 before I sold it on ebay. To not be able to do something so simple on the pure Google tablet (which will run circles around any Nook or Kindle) is just not right. Hopefully the leaked information is incomplete or inaccurate and it does have a microsd slot.
If they botch this then I will probably look to get an Asus tablet since it only took them about a month to bump the Transformer Prime up to ICS and the OG Transformer wasn't very far along after that. Google better do something amazing tomorrow if they want my $ -- and trust me I've been dying to give it to them for a while now. haha
So, what about USB otg support? Maybe that will solve storage problems.
Anyone got information bout that?
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So, what about USB otg support? Maybe that will solve storage problems.
Anyone got information bout that?
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Every ics kernel supports otg...
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OK so I got around to thinking about this "problem" of not having microsd slots on new devices, and I was wondering if anyone out there makes an accessory that attaches to the charger and has a card reader on it. Basically an external card reader. It wouldn't be the fastest for transferring files I'm sure, but it's better than giving up all the microsd cards my family has acquired.
I did some Googling and found this thing on Amazon -- does anyone know if it does what I described above? I can't tell if its meant for use with actual phones/tablets or just the computer.
Or if anyone knows of a product that does exist and can provide a link (or even a name) that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!
I Present the Galaxy Player 5.8 (YP-GP1) Instruction Manual (설명서)
I hope that some of you may be able to find this of some use. I was browsing the Naver Cafes and found a PDF of the instruction manual for the Galaxy Player 5.8, or otherwise known as the YP-GP1. My apologies for those of you that don't understand Korean, however there are lots of pictures, you'll at least have a better understanding of the overall layout of the device's appearance; among other things.
As an aside, for those of you that aren't aware, the Galaxy Player 5.8 was just released on the Korean market today (9/11/2012), although I have no idea of pricing or international release dates.
P.S. - The file size surpassed XDA's limit, so I uploaded it here. I can assure this file is a PDF and that it is safe to download.
HERE: https://anonfiles.com/file/072d74f76b8d1e79a5e0188112c6be49
Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
Good to know that it's already released in Korea
Edit: can't understand anything in the manual. Can you tell me does it have a back camera? If so how is the camera quality.
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Damn. I want it so bad, so Samsung, if you're not gonna release it in the US then I'll buy the ipod touch 5
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like this)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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Oh and do you know does it have a back camera? I just want a back camera to scan bar code and text, not for taking pictures, so it doesn't have to be high quality.
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I couldn't agree more, and can't understand all the people knocking on the screen size. It's not a seven inch tab, but not a four inch phone; it has its own little niche for those that want pocket portability, while having a screen big enough that it's not a struggle to read fine print.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
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In response to your other point, I was in Korea when they released the Galaxy Player 5.0. When I returned to the USA, they had already started selling the 5.0 here. So, I imagine they'll do the same for this device, once they assess consumer response to the product. Samsung has done quite a bit of advertising for this device, and I think they speculate that it will sell quite well. The next time I am in Korea, I will be picking one up, because I like having the DMB capabilities when I am in Seoul.
You have to understand that they release a slightly altered device for the Western market. They don't need the DMB antenna in Western countries for one thing. But, if I were you, I'd sit tight because I expect that they'll release it to Western markets eventually. If memory serves me well, I think it was 6 months, or so, after the release of the 5.0 that they released it internationally.
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Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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totally agree with this. it's actually not that much bigger than 5.0, only 8mm wider and 2.5cm longer.
Do you mean they advertised it in Korea? It doesn't authomatically mean that there will be an Int version of the device. The refreshed version of 5.0 (with dual core processor and a gig of ram) has never been released in the west, this device may have the same fate.
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Yes. It was advertized widely in Korea. I hadn't thought about the YP-GB70D, but you are right to mention that. However, I still want to hold out hope, as this is a brand new device modeled after their flagship phone the S III. So, with that in mind, Samsung may want to release the device here with a fresh start; also where the Galaxy S III is selling well.
If all else fails, you could probably pick one up on eBay in the near future.
nooktablet said:
6 months, then I'm gonna get the ipod touch 5 which will probably be announced on Wednesday.
Although I want a bigger screen screen and android, but I don't want to wait too long. Also it will have a 16:9 4 inch screen so it won't be very bad (but I still want a bigger screen like I said lol)
(I don't need a phone. I need something like a smart phone without phone calling functionality. That's why I need a device like thid)
P/s: I though you're Korean and live in Korea lol
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Oh and do you know does it have a back camera? I just want a back camera to scan bar code and text, not for taking pictures, so it doesn't have to be high quality.
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:laugh: Nope, sorry. I am not Korean, but I have lived in Korea. I am as white as they come. I like to call myself a linguist.
But, to answer your question, if you take a look at the instruction manual I uploaded, there are lots of pictures of the device and features. However, the short answer to your question is, "Yes. It does have a front and rear camera."
Also, about the iPod Touch 5, I'd advise you to wait for the Galaxy Player, as you'll probably be able to get one on eBay in the near future. If you go with Apple, you look like everybody else. You have the same device as probably 1:3 people around you. Be different, and more importantly, go BIG! You know you want 5.8 inches of screen real estate.:good:
Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
Thanks for the manual BTW. Now I just need an interpreter, lol!
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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the ipod touch still has something makes me consider:
- high resolution, it's only 4 inch and has a retina resolution, while the samsung has 5.8 inch screen and has a qHD screen resolution, but i believe the screen on the samsung is not very bad, just not as good as the ipod touch
- good design, yeah to be honest i really like the design of the ipod touch 4, or apple products' design in general, will put it into a case anyway.
tomorrow we (probably) will know what kind of hardware does it have and of course more importantly - the price, now with the $200 kindle fire hd and nexus 7, they better lower the price or at least make it stay the same and increase storage (i think it will be $200 for the 16 GB version, there's no 8 GB version)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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Eh I bet the iPod 5 will be as bad as the 4, but with a "revolutionary" screen size of 4 inches!! I am kinda warming to the size of the 5.8, but it had better be sub-$200 for "only" dual core. Otherwise I would just keep my 4.0 and get a nexus 7.
Thanks for the manual BTW. Now I just need an interpreter, lol!
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
Oh! One more thing for those of you who were wondering, the device DOES have a rear camera. I believe the rear camera is 3 megapixels. (I know. I know. Terrible, right?) As for the front camera (don't quote me on this), I believe it is .3 megapixels, but I'll update this post if/when I get an actual figure. (I know I saw it in the manual.)
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I did some more browsing on the Korean forums and it seems that for a 16GB model you'll be facing a price tag of $400 and $425 for a 32GB. I would hate to tell you that these prices are official, but it seems to be more likely than not that these are the prices to be. I am certainly hoping for better. If not, I'll be waiting for a price drop.
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well i believe they will not price it that high unless they're crazy, at least in the US.
i'd get a nexus 7 or kindle fire hd or ipod touch (because it's portable than the 2 tablets). the highest price i'd pay for the 16GB is $250, and i expect it to be $200.
how come they price it $400, you know my TF300T is $400, the ipad 2 is $400. This is not a galaxy s3 or note 2, it doesn't have good resolution, it doesn't have very good processor, why? because they want to cut cost. who would buy it at $400, i know i won't.
in my opinion $200 is still expensive, the fire hd and the nexus 7 are priced at $200 and they have pretty good specs. that's why i'm thinking if apple price the ipod touch 5 $200 it should have something good/special.
In short, i would never buy this device if it's $400 (which i believe the price is not true, samsung is not that crazy)
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I was honestly thinking about translating it myself until I saw the page count. Then I was like, "Never mind! I definitely have no time for that." But, after skimming through it I can tell you that most of it is stuff you'd already know. The manual didn't explicitly say it, but I am hoping that they incorporated a Bluetooth hands-free profile.
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i also am hoping for the Bluetooth hands-free profile. the page 121 in the manual says that (using google translator):
"Music by connecting a stereo headset that supports Bluetooth function
Or hear or connect external devices, mobile phone data and
Can get.
Bluetooth feature on or off."
does this mean bt hf?
Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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Well, the ipod 5g was just announced and seems pretty boring to me. Finally has a "revolutionary" 4 inch screen, when most of the world has moved on to sizes close to 5 inches, lol! Only comes in 32gb and 64gb, starting at $299, witch seems a bit pricy, so I think not many kids will be getting one for their Christmas present, unless their parents REALLY love them! Has a "revolutionary" lanyard as well. No gps or 3g (I'm not surprised). Camera is pretty decent at 5mp, but again is already aging. CPU is the A5 witch is dual core, but once again is already over a year old technology. I would like to know what the ram is, but Apple seems to think that isn't important, since the only way to find out is rip their devices open. It is pretty darn thin at 6.1mm, but I find myself wondering how easy that is to keep hold of, since I have trouble keeping a 7.1mm 4g in my hand, lol! All in all, I say not worth the high price. What do you think?
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hmm -> http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/pod-touch-hands-on-2012-video/
I actually think it's a pretty sweet looking device.. I think i will get it just to see what this iOS is about (since i've never owned an iOS device before). They say it'll get the iPhone 4s' processor, which is (AFAIK) is very powerful and is (much) more powerful than what Samsung Galaxy players have. No way i'm parting with my Galaxy Players though (In fact am planning to get the new 5.8 as well). Pitty this iPod Touch can't be upgraded to Android.. and Apple devices have crappy batteries (except iPads, iPhone 4S has a 950MAh battery, which is a joke!)
Yup, well tell me what you think.
My dad has an iPad, and here are the biggest things that bug me about iOS: first and foremost, WHY THE HECK ARE ALL THE APP SETTINGS PUT INTO THE SYSTEM SETTINGS!? It just makes no sense! When I want to change the settings of an app, I should find the settings in the app, NOT have to dig around in the system settings! Another thing that is super annoying is the lack of a common back button like android. The unisearch is also junk compared to android's, for example no search suggestions and no customizing searchable items! Another HUGE handicap is no file browser (yes you can jail break, but my dad won't, and frankly you shouldn't have to!). I think this feature is one that truly shows how much more open and PC-like android is! The list goes on, but these are the ones always giving me a headache.
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If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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euphoriaflow said:
If you guys search YouTube for galaxy player 5.8, you'll see the new device, hands on, by some Russian reviewer.
I would post a link, but I'm on my phone at the moment.
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
Thoughts? Ideas?
By the way, here is the link for that YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttpv3ONlYHM
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Thanks for the tip. The fellow reviewing the device did a side-by-side with the S III, and the disparity in screen quality in terms of clarity and contrast was painstakingly obvious. You could see that every color on the spectrum was not as lush on the Player 5.8 compared to the S III.
Seeing as how the price I mentioned a few posts ago seems to be official, I am having reservations about buying the device, after all.
My plan of action:
By the time I could feasibly go to Seoul, or by the time the device would potentially be released in the U.S., should it be released at all, the Galaxy Note 2 will have been released. Seeing as how the Note 2 will be full HD, have a much better screen, and be packed with many more features, I think I am just going to wait for a Note 2 and hang on to my current Player 5.0 and hope that developers continue to port things to it.
Thoughts? Ideas?
By the way, here is the link for that YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttpv3ONlYHM
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I think that's a fine plan of action, Note 2 would most definitely be better.
If the new Player has a reasonable enough price, I might consider it, however, if it is too expensive, I'll probably just go with a 16 GB Nexus 7, since 8 GB is certainly not enough for me, lol.