It is a known fact that HTC Sync does not see playlists on a PC, and therefore cannot copy them to the phone, so initially what I did was manually copy them to the phone's SD card via the Disk Drive setting in HT Sync.
The music app subsequently found them and they work just fine. However, when I manually copy new ones I make on the PC, they don't show up in the music app. Additionally, upon subsequent connections of the phone to the PC, the newly copied playlists are no longer in the destination. Interestingly, the ones I initially copied are also no longer where I copied them to, nor can I find them anywhere, yet they indeed still work on the phone.
Can anyone explain this phenomenom, and maybe shed some light on where they go and how I can once again experience success in manually copying playlists?
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It is a known fact that HTC Sync does not see playlists on a PC, and therefore cannot copy them to the phone, so initially what I did was manually copy them to the phone's SD card via the Disk Drive setting in HT Sync.
The music app subsequently found them and they work just fine. However, when I manually copy new ones I make on the PC, they don't show up in the music app. Additionally, upon subsequent connections of the phone to the PC, the newly copied playlists are no longer in the destination. Interestingly, the ones I initially copied are also no longer where I copied them to, nor can I find them anywhere, yet they indeed still work on the phone.
Can anyone explain this phenomenom, and maybe shed some light on where they go and how I can once again experience success in manually copying playlists?
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New music and playlist just don't automatically appear in the music app once you add them manually you have to reboot the phone to get the media scanner to run again. If your playlists are disappearing off your sdcard then something is wrong as they shouldn't be moving anywhere on their own or be deleted. Now there are also internally stored playlists such as the ones you can make using the music app and those are probably the ones you are seeing. It would appear that for some reason your external playlist have been turned into internal playlists and are being deleted. Are your playlists you make m3u or another format? I make all my playlist as m3u and store them on my external sdcard and they have never disappeared on me. I also do not add anything to a playlist using the function in the music app I do all this on my pc to keep them separated from the internal playlist. The music app cannot edit external playlists only its own.
The internal playlists are stored somewhere in the system folders but I can't remember where exactly but they are not in any type of format you can use. They are databases not playlists and can't be read by a pc using windows media player or other application.
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New music and playlist just don't automatically appear in the music app once you add them manually you have to reboot the phone to get the media scanner to run again. If your playlists are disappearing off your sdcard then something is wrong as they shouldn't be moving anywhere on their own or be deleted. Now there are also internally stored playlists such as the ones you can make using the music app and those are probably the ones you are seeing. It would appear that for some reason your external playlist have been turned into internal playlists and are being deleted. Are your playlists you make m3u or another format? I make all my playlist as m3u and store them on my external sdcard and they have never disappeared on me. I also do not add anything to a playlist using the function in the music app I do all this on my pc to keep them separated from the internal playlist. The music app cannot edit external playlists only its own.
The internal playlists are stored somewhere in the system folders but I can't remember where exactly but they are not in any type of format you can use. They are databases not playlists and can't be read by a pc using windows media player or other application.
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My lists are .WPLs (Windows Media Player lists), and I swear, they are indeed being converted and I assume the originals are being deleted after the conversion. What I want to know is where the converted lists would be stored on the phone. I, too, do not make lists on the phone, but did so just to test. I cannot find that one, either.
As far as rebooting is concerned, I have done that, but that does not help the music app find the lists I copied over... not after that initial first bunch of lists was copied, anyway.
The phone does not store playlists internally as any recognizable playlist type thats why you can't find them. I tried for years to find an answer as to where they are and how to recover them. The answer is you can't. Nothing except the phone itself can recognize them as playlists. You are better off converting the ones on your pc to m3u playlists from my experience as I've had nothing but problems with wpl's and I've never had a problem with m3u playlists.
In windows media player just open your playlist by doubling clicking it, it should start to play, at the top under Library>Playlists> right click on the name of the playlist and a new menu opens up and under File is the option to Save Now Playing List as: select M3U. You will then have two identical playlist in the playlists folder, one M3U the other WPL. I just deleted my wpl's once I was satified with the new m3u's. I then clear my phones media cache to delete all the internal playlist and store my m3u playlists in a folder on my sdcard, sdcard>music>playlists.
Doing some looking around and the playlists seem to be somewhere in /data/data/com.android.providers.media/databases/. These files are sql databases and useless for trying to get data out. I can't find the actual playlist in a readable form all I find is references to where they are, except for a test one I made using the music app, while it shows its name there is no location given for where it is.
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The phone does not store playlists internally as any recognizable playlist type thats why you can't find them. I tried for years to find an answer as to where they are and how to recover them. The answer is you can't. Nothing except the phone itself can recognize them as playlists. You are better off converting the ones on your pc to m3u playlists from my experience as I've had nothing but problems with wpl's and I've never had a problem with m3u playlists.
In windows media player just open your playlist by doubling clicking it, it should start to play, at the top under Library>Playlists> right click on the name of the playlist and a new menu opens up and under File is the option to Save Now Playing List as: select M3U. You will then have two identical playlist in the playlists folder, one M3U the other WPL. I just deleted my wpl's once I was satified with the new m3u's. I then clear my phones media cache to delete all the internal playlist and store my m3u playlists in a folder on my sdcard, sdcard>music>playlists.
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OK, I converted a list to M3U. HT Sync still sees nothing in the UI. I changed to Disk Drive connection, copied the M3U from the PC to the folder on the SD card that I previously copied all my original lists to, and even did the safe removal of usb function on the PC. I also re-booted the phone. STILL no new playlist in either the music app, or in the folder I had just copied it to! I did not delete all playlists on the phone, as you do, for fear I will permanently lose all the ones that are already there. I gotta tell you, there seem to be so many things that don't work the way they should. How the heck did this phone (or is it Android itself, if that's the real culprit) get to be so popular?
I just enabled Documents syncing, and placed a .WPL and the new M3U files in an empty folder on my PC. I added that directory to the Document sync. Performed the sync, and those don't show up on the phone.
I then copied the files manually to the My Documents folder on the SD card. Changed connection to Charge Only, and then back, and the files were still there, untouched (at least not deleted. Problem is that the music app doesn't see them.
Disconnected and reconnected the phone. Alas, the files were gone!
For grins, in Documents sync option, added a folder that had other files in it, and no playlists. That didn't even sync!
So, this is a phone setup for music, and I can't send playlists to it.
This phone has a sync function with Documents and Playlists functions, and neither work. I guess I should be thankful I can sync Outlook contacts and Calendar.
Unless someone can tell me if all these problems are gone with ICS before my 14 "return" days are up, I might have to think strongly about whether I should go back to my Touch Pro 2, and wait for Windows Phone at the end of the year.
Tried one more thing, and got one step closer:
Opened Windows Media Player. Connected as Disk Drive. This enabled WMP to see the device as a Sync target. Made an M3U list with song on my PC that were already sync'd to the SD card. Ran the Sync. It re-sent the songs to another location, and put a folder in that new location called Playlists. Although the music player cannot see the playlist, it also did not delete it. Opened ES File Explorer and it saw the list. Only trouble is that it can't do anything with the Playlist. But, I am that much closer to getting a playlist to stick on the phone.
If I could only get the music app to recognize the playlist, I'd be in business! I even rebooted, and although the playlist is still there, the music app seems to not want to see lists copied OR sync'd to the device anymore, no matter what. Even if I installed another music app that COULD read the .M3U, if it has its own player, I would lose Beats Audio, like I do now if I try to open an .MP3 via ES File Explorer, even if I do choose to open it with the phone's default music app.
SIGH, it really should not be this hard.
Anybody have ANY ideas?
One thing it could be is that windows media player won't create an m3u playlist during a sync, if it copies music to your phone then creates a playlsit for that music it wil be in wpl format, and android phones have problems with the wpl format.
All I do is sync my music to my phone using windows media player. It automatically creates the directory sdcard/music. I then manually copy the m3u playlists to a new directory I make, sdcard/music/playlists. Then everytime I sync new music to the phone I manually update the m3u playlists, been doing it this way for about 2 years now without one problem.
And I have a huge mp3 collection on my phone, 8 playlists with over 3000 songs, 12 GB. It took me weeks to put them to together, manually embedding the album art in each mp3, so I'm pretty fussy about my phone recognizing them properly. My total collection is over 12,000 mp3's, 70 GB. I use the cloud if I want to listen to a full album.
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One thing it could be is that windows media player won't create an m3u playlist during a sync, if it copies music to your phone then creates a playlsit for that music it wil be in wpl format, and android phones have problems with the wpl format... All I do is sync my music to my phone using windows media player. It automatically creates the directory sdcard/music. I then manually copy the m3u playlists to a new directory I make, sdcard/music/playlists.
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Wait, WMP doesn't CREATE playlists during a sync. In WMP, when you connect a device and go to the WMP sync panel on the right, all you do is drop a playlist into the sync panel. When you sync, all songs in the play list, as well as the playlist itself, are sent to the device. What I described in my post above was that I created an M3U list in WMP (as you suggested previously), performed the sync, and the sync indeed occured. The music went into a music directory on the root of the card, just as you describe, and the M3U list went into a music/playlists folder AUTOMATICALLY. I did NOT have to manually copy the list.
EDIT: If you do this with a .WPL, the list never gets copied, and music goes into a slightly different location, however, all music (no matter if you use WMP Sync, or HT Sync, always syncs properly, and always works. It's the play list stuff that disgusts me.
ANOTHER EDIT: Never mind what I said about the Playlists staying there. First, I just went to look and the playlist was there, but it was empty, 0kb. I then changed back to Charge Only, and as expected the playlist was not readable. Checked to see of the Playlist was still there in the directory structure and it was gone. I think it's time to call a spade a spade.
Then everytime I sync new music to the phone I manually update the m3u playlists, been doing it this way for about 2 years now without one problem.
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Now, that's weird. In my case I would NOT have to update the playlists because they are getting copied automatically. Trouble is, the Music App does not recognize them! What OS are you running?
I would assume there are other 3rd party music apps with sync that work, but if you go that route you lose beats audio, correct?
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Wait, WMP doesn't CREATE playlists during a sync. In WMP, when you connect a device and go to the WMP sync panel on the right, all you do is drop a playlist into the sync panel. When you sync, all songs in the play list, as well as the playlist itself, are sent to the device. What I described in my post above was that I created an M3U list in WMP (as you suggested previously), performed the sync, and the sync indeed occured. The music went into a music directory on the root of the card, just as you describe, and the M3U list went into a music/playlists folder AUTOMATICALLY. I did NOT have to manually copy the list.
EDIT: If you do this with a .WPL, the list never gets copied, and music goes into a slightly different location, however, all music (no matter if you use WMP Sync, or HT Sync, always syncs properly, and always works. It's the play list stuff that disgusts me.
ANOTHER EDIT: Never mind what I said about the Playlists staying there. First, I just went to look and the playlist was there, but it was empty, 0kb. I then changed back to Charge Only, and as expected the playlist was not readable. Checked to see of the Playlist was still there in the directory structure and it was gone. I think it's time to call a spade a spade.
Now, that's weird. In my case I would NOT have to update the playlists because they are getting copied automatically. Trouble is, the Music App does not recognize them! What OS are you running?
I would assume there are other 3rd party music apps with sync that work, but if you go that route you lose beats audio, correct?
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I use the stock music app.
I don't not do any type of file management of my music using the phone period . I purchase all new music using my pc (windows 7) then add it to my playlists, sync the new music files to the phone over usb using Windows Media Player Sync then copy and paste the new playlists onto the phones sdcard. This way nothing gets screwed up. Windows Media Player has never copied over a playlist to my phone during a sync, even when I drag a whole playlist over to the sync box. So not sure why it did it for you unless the playlsit was a wpl then maybe thats why it was copied over. That said I really do not think android can even recognize wpl's and I stopped using them entirely 2 years ago. They gave me nothing but problems and now I srtrictly use m3u's.
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I use the stock music app.
I don't not do any type of file management of my music using the phone period . I purchase all new music using my pc (windows 7) then add it to my playlists, sync the new music files to the phone over usb using Windows Media Player Sync then copy and paste the new playlists onto the phones sdcard. This way nothing gets screwed up. Windows Media Player has never copied over a playlist to my phone during a sync, even when I drag a whole playlist over to the sync box. So not sure why it did it for you unless the playlsit was a wpl then maybe thats why it was copied over. That said I really do not think android can even recognize wpl's and I stopped using them entirely 2 years ago. They gave me nothing but problems and now I srtrictly use m3u's.
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I don't get why it doesn't work for me. I mean, think about it. My first drag 'n' drop of my .WPL playlists worked! So I KNOW Android saw them, and converted them. Now, no matter what I do, NO playlist has ever again been able to be added, even if it is M3U. That said, I am going to wipe out all Music App storage, then use only WMP to sync the data, then copy over a M3U playlist manually. Maybe just the fact that the Music app converted the WPLs caused the playlist data file to be corrupted. You did say it was an SQL file, right? It's worth a shot. Here goes.
Then again, you are unlocked, too. Although it SHOULDN'T make a difference, SHOULDN'T is a big word in computers.
OK, guess what? I deleted all music. I then went into Manage Applications, and told the phone to delete all Music App data. It did not delete those initially converted playlists. I deleted all the playlists anyway, and rebooted.
Used WMP to sync, then dropped in a M3U. Just as I expected no playlist shows up on the phone AND I now lost every single playlist I previously had on the phone. I am now kicking myself in the ass for trying that!
This gets better. Now, HT Sync will no longer send ANY of my .MP3s to the phone! What terrible programming of both the phone and HTC Sync.
OK, looks like the sync function is not made well at all. When I deleted the files, the function still thinks they're on the phone, so they don't get copied again. I tested this by adding a new .mp3 into the music folder on my pc. When I invoked the sync, that particular file was then sent to the phone. So, I copied all the files back in manually. Still have no playlists though, so still a reall half-assed app, to say the least.
I don't use HTC Sync and that could be the problem you're having. I use Sync in Windows Media Player, I don't sync my phone to the pc either I just use the Sync function on the right hand side of WMP there two seperate functions. And if you have all your playlists on your pc in M3U format then you can never lose them if you wipe the phones cache. This is why I did this as I switched ROMs a lot and would always lose all my playlists, I tried MyBackup Pro to save them but sometimes it would work right and restore them and sometimes it wouldn't. So now I just stick to keeping my music and playlists on my pc and manage them from there and syncing them over.
Remember to reboot the phone after adding the playlists and depending upon the size and speed of your sdcard it can take up to 30 minutes once you reboot the phone for the playlists to reappear. My 32 GB class 6 micro sdcard takes forever to scan them back in on my Inc. I'm using the stock 16 GB in my Rezound and its slow too.
You also can skip syncing all together and just drag and drop your entire music library onto the sdcard. I do this in emergencies but prefer to sync the music with WMP as it then remembers what songs are on the device so I don't get duplicates. WMP stores the playlists in the same music directory on the pc as the mp3's so everything gets transfered.
Also the reason I wipe the music cache is if I don't I will get duplicates so I always wipe it if I'm doing a major overall of my music. And like I said everything I have is on my pc so I don't lose anything. And since all my music and playlists are all on the sdcard anyways wiping the cache really has no effect for me except to delete any internal playlists that might have crept in. Once the phone rescans the sdcard I'm golden.
The reason it takes awhile for your card to see the songs is because you likely have a ton of song files in the folder. ;-)
I already tried using WMP to sync, but it makes no difference. I made a M3U with 3 songs in it. I turned off HT Sync's Music option, then in WMP dragged the new M3U to the sync window on the right and sync'd. All songs in that playlist indeed sync'd. I then manually copied the M3U to a Playlist folder inside the Music folder on the SD card. For safety's sake, did the Windows stop USB to flush the RAM cache to the disk to ensure writing of the M3U files. Rebooted the phone.
I've even tried manually creating a playlist. All to no avail.
I wouldn't be surprised if this works for you simply because your phone is unlocked, but I've given up. I have a commercial band, and need playlist sync'ing functionality more than I need Beats, since the phone is a backup to my PC for in-between-sets music (in case we have PC problems at a gig), so I am now looking for a new music app that supports syncing from the PC. Know of any?
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The reason it takes awhile for your card to see the songs is because you likely have a ton of song files in the folder. ;-)
I already tried using WMP to sync, but it makes no difference. I made a M3U with 3 songs in it. I turned off HT Sync's Music option, then in WMP dragged the new M3U to the sync window on the right and sync'd. All songs in that playlist indeed sync'd. I then manually copied the M3U to a Playlist folder inside the Music folder on the SD card. For safety's sake, did the Windows stop USB to flush the RAM cache to the disk to ensure writing of the M3U files. Rebooted the phone.
I've even tried manually creating a playlist. All to no avail.
I wouldn't be surprised if this works for you simply because your phone is unlocked, but I've given up. I have a commercial band, and need playlist sync'ing functionality more than I need Beats, since the phone is a backup to my PC for in-between-sets music (in case we have PC problems at a gig), so I am now looking for a new music app that supports syncing from the PC. Know of any?
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Actually this all worked for me when I had the phone locked, its the first thing I set up when I got the Rezound a couple weeks ago. I actually just dragged and dropped my backed up music folder off my Incredible onto the phone and had no problems with it. Something is screwy on your phone because it should be able to read M3U's and not move or delete them at the most you would have duplicate playlists. Its as if something is writing to your sdcard overwritting this particular data. Weird.
Winamp I believe was actually trying for wireless syncing at one time. Poweramp is another good one but not sure about the syncing and its not free, like $5 or $15 somewhere in that range, the free version has like a 10 day trial period then it locks up. I've never used either for more than a day as I like the stock players widgets and every single music app out there has sucky widgets. I have used Mixzing (paid version) and actually like it over the others for its editng abilities but not sure if it has syncing and I haven't used it in over a year.
I also saw your other post on apps to sync but decided against replying to it. I've never found an app or program that can sync playlists and believe me I've searched. One of the problems is that the phone's playlists are stored in the cache folder and you need root access to get into it. Then they aren't stored in a playlist format so they can't really be read as such anyways. Just too many obstacles to overcome.
I've seen so many posts on the web about playlist problems, so I don't think I am the only one having this issue. In fact, you might be one of the LUCKY ones.
Hey, did you unlock per the HTC Dev instructions? You also said previously that the playlists are in a database format of some sort (SQL?), right? If that's the case, then we should be able to edit the files manually, right?
The reason I ask about the unlock thing is so I can get access to the playlist files. Maybe I can copy the file(s) to my PC, then just write a utility that will write to the playlists file(s), then just transfer whatever I need to the appropriate directory?
And, thanks for the insight on the other music apps. Now, I won't even bother trying to find something. I, too, prefer to use stock apps, but I gotta tell you, I've never encountered a device where so many built in things don't work right. And, to think Android has been out for quite some time; the implementation of some of these apps shocks the crap out of me. I mean, this is a music phone that can't sync playlists, without major headaches (even YOU should not have to copy lists manually, you know what I mean?). The MAJORITY of HTC Sync functions do NOT work (shouldn't it be the majority SHOULD work), (HT Sync connectivity is spotty as well), Voice Search doesn't work right, etc. Then again, maybe Android itself isn't all that it's cracked up to be... why else would playlist sync'ing, as well as other data sync'ing, not be as prevalent as you would think? These are, after all, devices designed to make data more portable, so sync should be a top priority. But, maybe the OS is just not robust enough, or just not mature enough to accommodate good developers.
I used the HTCdev unlock method on the HTC website, but it does wipe your phone completely if you do it.
I used to have all kinds of problems with my playlists on my Incredible until I switched to strictly using external M3U playlists on my sdcard and stopped using the internal playlist function all together. What I mean by this is that I used to download music directly to the phone then add it to a playlist using that function in the music app. However this would then create a duplicate internal playlist and not update the external playlist on the sdcard. Only the internal playlist would have the new music included in it as the phone can't write to external playlists. Having two different playlist locations really screwed up my music. So now I stick strictly to keeping only the M3U playlists that are on my sdcard. My phone does not copy them to the internal cache which appears to be what your phone is doing.
The internal playlists are stored in SQL databases, cache folder and you need root access to get into it, but I have not found anything looking like usable data in the ones I searched through on my Incredible. My Rezound is not rooted. My memory of how to access data in a database is failing and comes from the early 90's when you had to know such things.
Edit: Guess what I just checked my library and I now have duplicate playlists on my phone, this is pissing me off. I generally listen to the same playlist everyday so don't open the library very often but the last time I did, over a week ago probably a couple days after unlocking, I only had one set of playlists. So now my phone has copied my external playlists to the internal cache. This is only on my Rezound too the Incredible is untouched so something is different in how the music app's read and then store data. Bummer, I can't tell which playlists is internal or external as there is no properties function in the settings.
Edit 2: Okay cleared the data from media storage, rebooted the phone and I'm back to one set of playlists. We'll see how long this lasts.
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With my X10i, i got use to using Media Go.
Arranges folders etc on the SDCard under a folder caused Music.
Obviousley i copied this filde from my SDCard onto my S2 Sdcard.
Im still using Media Go for now, but have to manually refresh/rescan in Poweramp eveytime.
Anyone else having this issue.
Back on topic. Whats people using to transfer music? I like to make sure they have covers etc, and to continue putting them into the SdCard/Music foldr, into relevant artists foldr etc.
I'm not sure about the relevant artists function but I use doubleTwist because it pulls the playlists from itunes and syncs all the music with your phone in a folder called music on your sd card if you want. I think if you wanna use poweramp you have to manually re-scan your library every time new music is added, not sure about that though.
I open up the music app on the phone (Music or Nokia Music) and it shows over 15,000 songs (long story of stupidity). None of the songs are on the phone though. If I try to play something, it'll hang for several minutes, play something for about 15s and then hang for several minutes again. I think it has something in cache that it tries to play.
How do I get the song list to force update? I can manually delete them from the phone but I I only live once and won't have that much time. The Windows Phone 8 app 'can see' the songs but then errors when trying to delete saying it can't find it. It doesn't have a select all anyway. WMP doesn't see any songs on it. Rebooting the phone doesn't force it to scan either.
Any ideas?
I miss the Zune days.......................
I personally would put all of your music in one easy to mange music folder, get rid of duplicate entries, and make sure you delete all the songs you have on your device through windows explorer. Then, copy and paste the music folder to your device. You will be able to select all or pick and choose copying music this way. It would be the same way you copy music to a thumb drive if that clarifys it for you.
There is no music
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I personally would put all of your music in one easy to mange music folder, get rid of duplicate entries, and make sure you delete all the songs you have on your device. Then, copy and paste the music folder to your device. You will be able to select all or pick and choose copying music this way. It would be the same way you copy music to a thumb drive if that clarifys it for you.
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There is no music on the device at all. Due to the Itunes / WMP folder structuring hanging the transfers (I just use windows explorer normally). There was no folder structure. Only one folder with 32,000 songs. I then copied about 5600 to the device. THAT turned out to be too much as the device didn't like only having 500k of space left. So I deleted the folder, and tried something smaller.
This went on for a few times only to find out that the songs were not getting removed from the library when the files were removed from the device.
Personally i think wp has a problem with files and music.
i struggled a lot getting the device showing everything that was in the windows8 app.
had duplicate entries of self copied tracks, had problems with album arts,. albums sometimes have just a few songs.
deleting device in xbox.com and unsync didnt help much.
somehow the music i copied on the phone on some day just didnt show up in fthe explorer anymore. so does the hidden album folder.
at the end i tried a hard reset and bricked the phone... didnt do anything appart form playing around with the music folder and app.
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I open up the music app on the phone (Music or Nokia Music) and it shows over 15,000 songs (long story of stupidity). None of the songs are on the phone though. If I try to play something, it'll hang for several minutes, play something for about 15s and then hang for several minutes again. I think it has something in cache that it tries to play.
How do I get the song list to force update? I can manually delete them from the phone but I I only live once and won't have that much time. The Windows Phone 8 app 'can see' the songs but then errors when trying to delete saying it can't find it. It doesn't have a select all anyway. WMP doesn't see any songs on it. Rebooting the phone doesn't force it to scan either.
Any ideas?
I miss the Zune days.......................
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I miss the Zune days as well, I hate that I can no longer use it to sync all my content. I really hope they change this in the future, because the Windows Phone App is terrible and doesn't work half the time.
That being said, all the songs you see on your phone aren't actually on your phone. It is pulling them from your Zune account and what is now called your Xbox Music Cloud Connection.
Open up an artist and take a look at the track list - you'll notice a small icon indicating it isn't local. (Attachment 1)
It is streaming it from their servers, this is why it takes long to load, then buffers.
If you wish to disable the device from automatically showing all of these songs, in the Music + Videos app, go into settings (Attachment 2) and disable Xbox Music Cloud Collection. (Attachment 3)
That was it, mostly
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Personally i think wp has a problem with files and music.
i struggled a lot getting the device showing everything that was in the windows8 app.
had duplicate entries of self copied tracks, had problems with album arts,. albums sometimes have just a few songs.
deleting device in xbox.com and unsync didnt help much.
somehow the music i copied on the phone on some day just didnt show up in fthe explorer anymore. so does the hidden album folder.
at the end i tried a hard reset and bricked the phone... didnt do anything appart form playing around with the music folder and app.
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That was it. I didn't notice the hidden folders. After removing the contents from them, there were only about 100 songs left in the list which I could then manage via the application to delete.
Fresh music list, starting over.
Thank you
be carefull with this things. bricked my phone with it.. deleted the album folder to get the list new..
also got problems with the cable staying connected and refreshing the data in the folders.
just got everything showing in win8 and phone now.. despite the album covers
Also if you have Windows 8 ... music is uploaded to the cloud and can be streamed to the phone... it isn't perfect, but I have several albums that have just showed up... I think part of that has to do with where it was purchased.
does it update any mp3 you add into the music app?
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does it update any mp3 you add into the music app?
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Yeah it updates everything but the 'collection' tile inside of nokia music. That still had thousands.
I reloaded all the music and it seemed to have got lost again. It seems to work fine until you pass around 2000 songs and then duplicates start showing up everywhere.
Oh well, lesson learned.
didnt know that.. i have thousands of mp3 on a media server in the basement .. but cant bind it into music folder anyways because the network drive does not support indexing
Here's my dilemma...
I have my entire music library on my phone, and these days find myself using the phone to create playlists more frequently than I do on a PC.
When I was making playlists on PC more frequently, it was a piece of cake to transfer the playlist and the media associated to Android with apps like DoubleTwist and a few others that worked great.
What I'm running into now is that I'll create a great playlist on my phone, then want to transfer it to my PC or to my USB drive kept in my car and there is no way that I have found to do it unless I manually scroll through the playlist on the phone and copy the files to a folder one by one.
Anyone have a script, or maybe there is an app I am overlooking that can accomplish this?
Phone is Verizon Galaxy S7 Edge but I've wanted this on every Android I've had so I think the question is relevant here, instead of just in the Samsung forums. Feel free to move if it should be a device specific question.
tl;dr -- I want to take a playlist created on Android and copy the media files in that playlist to a folder on my PC without going song by song and copying them via MTP
I know I sound crazy but I am starting to miss Itunes. I had my MP3 folder with a batch of copied stuff from my main archive. It was organized for Windows. Most of the time Itunes was easy to use in that I droped the folder into it and made it my default folder so I could delete stuff from the MP3 folder via itunes it processed it and bam working very few issues. I never got duplicate playlist had some improperly removed mp3 files which stuck in itunes.
Right now I am having so many issues updating my mp3's and playlists and with duplicate playlists, empty playlists its driving me nuts. How do you manage and sync songs for android without a ton of issues? I was jsut copying the folder over but the dump way android handles files I can not use my windows sync programs. I got tired of it screwing things up so I tried winamp and it just had to sort everything in a horrible incoherent manner(album/artist folders ,ect) and that did not fix any of my issues. Out of the few players I like I like Shuffle and Rocket player but as far as I understand it they don't control anything they just play. Right now I have 50GB of mp3's on my micro sd card and its reporting 80k music files.... its nonsense....
I am just so lost.
First of all I totally understand that it was my fault. I should never believe first hit in Google results. But still, since Google basically owns Android, it would make sense if they didn't link to an article that breaks it. But whatever.
So I had problems with last.fm scrobbling out of nowhere (I didn't change tags, didn't update scrobbler or music player (jetAudio)). And for some reason last.fm started to take file names as if they were tags. So I went to my PC, removed track numbers and then artists names from the files names. Still jetAudio didn't seem to notice so I Googled how to force rescan of media library. And I was dumb enough to rush and fallow the first guide in the search results. I wiped media storage data and restarted the phone.
Help: How do I Reset the Android Media Scan Database?
How do I Reset the Android Media Scan Database?
www.doubletwist.com
After that only one song is shown in the player. Tried reinstalling and still nothing. Just one song is shown.
Interestingly, Mixplorer and Poweramp both see all the songs. FX and jetAudio don't.
I tried cleaning cache in TWRP and even restoring media storage's data from my other phone (I own two devices and they are almost identical in apps and data). None of the apps that supposedly force refresh media storage work either.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix it?
EDIT : I somehow fixed it. I renamed the folder to music2 and renamed it back, it solved the songs not showing but still couldn't search for artists/songs at all. Then I went to Oneplus stock file manager and turned on showing of hidden files and refreshed audio files section on the main screen and it worked. No idea if the hidden files section actually did anything since no audio files were actually hidden and I didn't have any .nomedia files
Poweramp can play them?
Clear the data or reinstall effected apps.
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Yeah both Poweramp and Mixplorer see all the files. But FX file explorer and jetAudio don't. Reinstalling and clearing their data does not work.
I'm trying to install system zip without wiping now, maybe that will help.
Never change your music database to fit the player. Group>album>track is my layout.
Poweramp is the only one I use in Android. If you screw around with it's database ie album names, track numbers or such Poweramp playlists will not be able to open those tracks.
I avoid using tags.
KISS, keep it simple stupid
Could scoped storage be blocking access?
I'm hipster and I still use last.fm in 2022 so I need tags ^^
I'm still on Oreo so it can't be scoped storage.
After trying to fix it for 100th time, I managed to somehow get the songs displayed in recently added. But only that. Still can't search for title/artist.
I like Poweramp butiI'm used to my old player it would take too much effort to change it lol ;P
Yeah no scoped storage there... yay!
Manually enter "tags" in the artist, album or song file name if you must. The player is irrelevant, only the music database matters. Mine is over 240gb. Recovery without full backups be impossible. I have multiple copies on hdds and flash memory.
One of the reasons I use Poweramp is it doesn't alter the database. I use a file manager to make any changes in the database, then do a library full rescan with Poweramp then backup Poweramp's settings. Only the music database is selected in Poweramp. Since all of Poweramp's settings can be fully backed up, as long as the database remains intact it's fully restorable/transferably no matter what. It takes me only minutes to recreate the whole setup on a new device once the database is copied on*.
Poweramp is a beast to configure but once set up it's rock solid and completely reproducible by exported settings.
Think it though and develop/implement a plan that covers your six no matter what happens.
Otherwise it's just random luck... and luck always runs out eventually.
*If the device has an SD card slot with the card used as the data drive, it's a simple and fast as slamming the card in.
Thanks for the tips, I localized the database in root/data folder and made a copy just in case. It seems that jetAudio and fx use the Android system wide media database while Poweramp and Mixplorer use their own. Or at least that's how it looks like.
I bought Poweramp long time ago but only kept it as secondary player. I definitely don't mind excess of configuration options, the more the better xD