After 30 days having 2 new amaze 4g, I am leaving HTC for good.
THis phone has been a horrible experience. 2 new phones bought and in a month I went thru 7 phones,that is unacceptable.
we got 2 phones,1st. one died the first day and was exchanged for a new one, this one started overheating after 15 days, replacement from TMobile, came with banding on the screen even whith the phone off out of the box.
Second one,worked for like 2 weeks, gps died. Replacement from TMobile, came also with banding on the screen also out of the box.
I have issues with the WiFi in all of them, taken too long to connect or disconnect automatically when signal was lost. GPS not too reliable, overheats after 30 minutes and freezes.
Called HTC,and the Customer Service lady, said she was looking to get the phone but too many issues with it. Back covers (part of the issue probably) are in back order, and TMo TEch had no idea about the issue with the back covers.
It took me to email TMo executives to get another phone similar (Galaxy SII or SIII,or HTC One S, as far as I paid the difference, what I was willing to do, and even offer to Customer retention managers to do so) (TMo customer service would only exchange after days of fighting for a Exibit 2)
Finally, Multitask in Sense is unreliable at best, and the changes made to comply with Apple's ban, have made the phone really a poor choice.
Good luck guys,but i believe this phone is a lemon........ (And I am not a newbie in Android)
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Good luck guys,but i believe this phone is a lemon........ (And I am not a newbie in Android)
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Bye ......... Guess I am the only customer for whom HTC added sugar to the lemons, and made Lemonade :laugh:
Jk ... Jk
Now you people see why I run telus software and not tmobile? I never had any of those issues you mentioned surprisingly.
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I have T-Mobile and haven't had any of those issues the OP has.
Has nothing to do with the provider when it is a hardware issue. Maybe a bad batch got through quailty control OT something?
I am on my 1st Amaze still...after 4 months.
I guess I am lucky, lol!
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I've also never heard of ANY of those issues with tmo software OR ANY software. I mean, it sucks you had the bad luck, but your results weren't common amongst those here in the community or others I know that own the device.
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Now you people see why I run telus software and not tmobile? I never had any of those issues you mentioned surprisingly.
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Does this mean that T-Mobile amaze can be converted to telus amaze ie. Software radio kernel and still function with T-Mobile the same if not better with out any issues
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Does this mean that T-Mobile amaze can be converted to telus amaze ie. Software radio kernel and still function with T-Mobile the same if not better with out any issues
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Yes sir, had quite a few plus features over the tmo software, much smoother, no bloatware, no app open restrictions (you can tap links, phone numbers, etc from anywhere like fb or the browser and it opens the corresponding app unlike the browser only restriction on tmo), only downside to using the telus software is that you have no wifi calling, but that doesn't even work properly on the tmo version, so it never bugged me one bit. You have to be super cid to do this though, so s-off is required, not sure if you can flash the zip I made or not, but I think a clean install to begin with is a better idea.
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Yes sir, had quite a few plus features over the tmo software, much smoother, no bloatware, no app open restrictions (you can tap links, phone numbers, etc from anywhere like fb or the browser and it opens the corresponding app unlike the browser only restriction on tmo), only downside to using the telus software is that you have no wifi calling, but that doesn't even work properly on the tmo version, so it never bugged me one bit. You have to be super cid to do this though, so s-off is required, not sure if you can flash the zip I made or not, but I think a clean install to begin with is a better idea.
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Hmm if use WiFi calling its only for about 3 hours the whole month sometimes never I could live with out. As far as the browser features I really don't know since I just use boat browser. But I would like to feel smoothness stable no random reboots maybe better battery and signal?
I'll have to pm you later if I need help but I'm trying out nrgs stock Rom only had one reboot. So I ordered a new stock battery and HTC says to use amaze memory clear so if after all this still unhappy I'm going back to stock but telus version this time.
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Hmm if use WiFi calling its only for about 3 hours the whole month sometimes never I could live with out. As far as the browser features I really don't know since I just use boat browser. But I would like to feel smoothness stable no random reboots maybe better battery and signal?
I'll have to pm you later if I need help but I'm trying out nrgs stock Rom only had one reboot. So I ordered a new stock battery and HTC says to use amaze memory clear so if after all this still unhappy I'm going back to stock but telus version this time.
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You're doing the right thing, tasting all the samples then making a choice, ^_^…
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I am also a big fan of Telus software over T-Mobile. Mind you I'm on Telus lol. I was on T-Mobile software for quite a while while waiting for Telus ICS. I went back to Telus software as soon as it was available. I prefer it mostly for the COMPLETE lack of bloat. I've also not had any problems with Telus software at all. I pmed NRGZ28 to ask if there was any chance he could rebase his excellent ROM on the Telus base but he said they weren't different enough to make it worth it
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I am also a big fan of Telus software over T-Mobile. Mind you I'm on Telus lol. I was on T-Mobile software for quite a while while waiting for Telus ICS. I went back to Telus software as soon as it was available. I prefer it mostly for the COMPLETE lack of bloat. I've also not had any problems with Telus software at all. I pmed NRGZ28 to ask if there was any chance he could rebase his excellent ROM on the Telus base but he said they weren't different enough to make it worth it
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So u root your phone and use custom roms, but the bloatware is what makes tmo software worse than telus...
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glacierguy said:
So u root your phone and use custom roms, but the bloatware is what makes tmo software worse than telus...
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I don't have many complaints using t mobile software. Took it all the bloat and use Wi-Fi calling quite frequently (very crappy service were I live). Only complaint is random overheating and external sd not always mounting after reboot.
Off subject. Glacierguy, how do you like the One S compared to the Amaze?
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Lunaillij said:
I don't have many complaints using t mobile software. Took it all the bloat and use Wi-Fi calling quite frequently (very crappy service were I live). Only complaint is random overheating and external sd not always mounting after reboot.
Off subject. Glacierguy, how do you like the One S compared to the Amaze?
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Absolutely love it. I'm running a working CM9 and my battery lasts all day. Its light, durable, and no hw issues. Also, S4 is way snappier than s3 in a lot of ways. Can also do 1gb backups in under 1 minute. Can't wait to get 4ext over there. Its better in every way except expandable memory and camera IMO.
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Absolutely love it. I'm running a working CM9 and my battery lasts all day. Its light, durable, and no hw issues. Also, S4 is way snappier than s3 in a lot of ways. Can also do 1gb backups in under 1 minute. Can't wait to get 4ext over there. Its better in every way except expandable memory and camera IMO.
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Good to hear. I was thinking of switching myself. Just curious, did you upgrade, trade, or bought right out?
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Why, HTC is the best?
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Good to hear. I was thinking of switching myself. Just curious, did you upgrade, trade, or bought right out?
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Upgraded
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that sucks you have had so many problems with your phones. mine has run pretty much flawless since i got it. i am just keeping my fingers crossed
Very Satisfied (or lucky) w Amaze Tmobil
Being a relative newb to Android. I must say I have had very few hardware issue with this handset.
1. battery draw is easy enough to compensate, especially with a backup battery.
2. BT weak signal (much better with ICS)
3. An occasional black screen after a lengthy phone call. (since NRG stock look was installed) which is very seldom.
Wifi calling works well. Phone is snappy, camera is very good for a phone.
Currently rooted w/NRG - Stock look
I must say the Telus route sounds interesting.
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Good for all of you. I agree the Amaze sucks I am on my 5th. It overheats like yu would not believe. This I my number one complaint. Today I am getting a Pebble Blue 32gb Samsung Galaxy SIII shipped to my house. I hope to have it by the end of the week. Goodbye HTC! (BTW no cost except to ship my phone back to corporate after I get my new phone)
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Good for all of you. I agree the Amaze sucks I am on my 5th. It overheats like yu would not believe. This I my number one complaint. Today I am getting a Pebble Blue 32gb Samsung Galaxy SIII shipped to my house. I hope to have it by the end of the week. Goodbye HTC! (BTW no cost except to ship my phone back to corporate after I get my new phone)
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Very nice... enjoy that beast
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With all of this going down recently about Rooted users being cracked upon, I want to make sure my next phone does not require root in order to improve it significantly. (Unlike my Fascinate which is a great phone, only after the developers have worked on issues).
How is the unrooted TB experience?
I didn't root my TB for about 3 days and I came from a rooted DX. It feels faster and smoother than a DX with the OE rom over clocked and is just as snappy as the blur-less rom i was running also. I was pleasantly surprised by the out of the box experienced of the TB and I am an ASOP experienced fan.
I was in no rush to root my phone. I only did it out of habit and was curious. I loved my phone when I first got it. Obviously rooting made me love it more but still a great experience. Nothing was broken or slow. Smoothest screen transition I've seen on a phone. I don't even mind HTC Sense (still prefer ASOP, but miles better than TouchWiz and Blur).
Mine is rooted and I don't think it's currently needed. The ROMs that are currently out aren't the coolest (meaning bug free and full featured) IMO. I did it for the freedom when a really good ROM/kernel is out.
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I don't even mind HTC Sense (still prefer ASOP, but miles better than TouchWiz and Blur).
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I agree, even the gingerbread Blur isn't as good as this. I my self noticed that the Bloated up OEM rom was just as fast for me as the De-bloats also
I need to get me some popcorn
Is there a "crack down"??? Seems to be business as usual.
To me....ThunderBolt is a beast with or without root. I ran it for a week before I rooted it and I though everything I had it and could NOT make it stall.
Tip of the hat to HTC and Verizon (for LTE) for this device in my hands. Best Android experience I have EVER had... I have had them ALL!!
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Yeah the new snapdragon is smooth as silk. Gameing isnt bad eather. Htc phones always seem the most stable!
I agree with everyone above. I came from a DX overclocked @ 1.36ghz and this thing immediately felt faster than my X. I rooted it because I wanted to be ready for the Rubix releases since that's what I was running on the X. Can't say I'm disappointed at all in that decision. Rooted or unrooted the thing is still a beast. The extra 256 megs of ram over the X and the next Gen snapdragon really make the difference. And a decent gpu doesn't hurt the mix either.
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The thunderbolt is a great phone un rooted. Faster than a stock Droid x and a tad faster than an oc'd and rom'd dx.
I rooted my thunderbolt because its mine and I hate clutter.
If Verizon would not pack the phones full of junk I probably wouldn't root.
The HTC skins allow the user to get their themes. The launchers give you the feel. The bolt is a good stock phone.
I like plain and simple, functional fast and stable is the best reason to root.
I tan rubix on my dx and running drod and b16 boLTEd now.
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I'm loving my un-rooted stock 3G Thunderbolt... it's miles ahead of my last device. I think my head will explode with root and 4G.
My phone is stock I'm gonna wait and see how 2.3 ota goes before I root. I upgraded from eris and this phone is 1000 times faster than that so I am perfect waiting.
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My phone is stock I'm gonna wait and see how 2.3 ota goes before I root. I upgraded from eris and this phone is 1000 times faster than that so I am perfect waiting.
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I've had the Original I-Phone since the day it came out so I just wanted to upgrade. So, I finally did it when "The next big Deal" happened. So, Now I have my Thunderbolt, unrooted and happy with my decision. It's been 4 years since I got a new phone. I think I was due...
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My phone is stock I'm gonna wait and see how 2.3 ota goes before I root. I upgraded from eris and this phone is 1000 times faster than that so I am perfect waiting.
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Or... You can root it and have that OTA when it leaks out 2 weeks before they push it.
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Thunderbolt being my first Android phone, I have nothing to compare it to. It kicked ass the day I got it, and it kicks even more ass rooted.
I really don't think there is a critical need to root. I really cant tell the difference between the two in speed except maybe in quadrant scores. Unrooted phone is very fast and smooth.
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With all of this going down recently about Rooted users being cracked upon, I want to make sure my next phone does not require root in order to improve it significantly. (Unlike my Fascinate which is a great phone, only after the developers have worked on issues).
How is the unrooted TB experience?
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Root is different than flashing a ROM... There are no rules against rooting, those companies are just trying to stop non-approved software on their networks (even though those rumors are just that, rumors).
Root and freezing apps can't be tracked anyway....
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So what's the overall verdict from those of you who are OBJECTIVE about your Thunderbolts? I.E., don't tell me about the personal preference things you like or dislike but overall thoughts on the device itself.
I'm currently using a Galaxy S (Vibrant) that I've had from it's original release date. Other than the crap GPS, I love the device. However, with AT&T's impending takeover of T-Mobile, staying simply isn't an option. Sprint has limited coverage (I travel quite a bit) so that makes Verizon my default option. I don't mind Verizon, and I've had a non-contract MiFi for over a year, it's just price that always pushed me away. Anyway, being a current customer with my MiFi I'm always getting those random spam mail offers via snail mail and the most recent is get a Thunderbolt $249 and unlimited mobile hotspot through May 15th.
I wasn't considering the Thunderbolt until seeing "Unlimited Mobile Hotspot". I currently use close to all 5GB's on my MiFi monthly along with another 3-4 on my Vibrant so data is a HUGE deal to me. I basically have a mobile office so I can eat up some data. Personally, I was holding out for a Dual Core with 768+ MB's of RAM but this definitely entices me. I don't live in an area with LTE, but it's coming, and with the future of mobile data pricing being unknown, I find myself wondering if I should "lock in" prices/features before the market becomes flooded with LTE devices.
Thoughts? Opinions?
My biggest beefs with my Vibrant are:
GPS
Battery Life (SAMOLED makes up for it and I can get 2 days out of a charge if I need to). I view most battery life issues as non-issues. People find themselves with a combo of bloatware and using crap apps that suck the life out of their phones
Lag, even on custom ROM's from time to time
No Camera Flash
How's the speaker phone?
How's Bluetooth strength? Can you stick the TBolt in your pocket and have a conversation without your headset crackling?
More importantly, how accurate is the GPS?
ilogik said:
I really don't think there is a critical need to root. I really cant tell the difference between the two in speed except maybe in quadrant scores. Unrooted phone is very fast and smooth.
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App options mainly. There are plenty of really cool applications that require root access.
The "Crack down" does not exist. It is a bullsh*t lie that some troll posted on here and caused everyone to panic. Root the SOB and enjoy.
Obviously Samsung's new device(GS3) will change smartphones for sure. Once it releases,how many people here are switching to it once they have an available update?
I have until about March to make my decision. Im on Verizon and dont plan on changing, so i plan on choosing the 32gb model for only $50 more than the 16(worth it in my opinion because i can double that amount thanks to HTC leaving us a wonderful 32gb card w/ tbolt)
Most of the specs impress me, although im kind of wishing that a couple new 'top of the line' 4.0 devices release, just to give me more options, because honestly the S3 is the only phone on verizon(will be on verizon) that truely impresses me (Galaxy Nexus= no micro sd which puts 32gb card to no use, and cameras significantly better on S3).
Well, let me know! How many people plan on making the switch? Also, why or why not??
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Pre-ordered first day love my thunderbolt been with it since day one but ready for something new plus my USB charging port no longer works and my volume rocker up crapped out on me ( dropped phone ) with those two reasons and the fact that I can't flash radios its time for an upgrade
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True, sounds like your thunderbokt has seen its day.. i just wish my upgrade date was available sooner, 7 more months with my phone might be alittle harder than i thought. the possible ics update might bring a new flavor to the phone, but i am also getting tired of it, as much as i love it
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i would if i can keep my unlimited data plan, but thanks to verizon i think i will be with my thunderbolt for a long time.
I'm switching, luckily I had an upgrade available on one of my other phones on my account. And I was able to keep my unlimited data.
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ordered one for my wife to replace her thunderbolt....her phone constantly freezes and apps are always crashing. she'll be much happer with the SGIII
i will be also. my upgrade is in august and i cant wait. im sure since i am not preordering i wont even be able to get one for months but oh well. it was either this or the nexus one which id much rather have the gs3 any day... im excited just hopefull theyll have some in stock
I know it's too late, but this info might help others down the road. I got 2 T-Bolts the day they came out last March and my upgrade date on both was something like November 12th. I spoke to 3 different reps at various points and told them all I am a long time Verizon customer and do not want to lose my unlimited data. I want my upgrade dates moved up so I can get 2 GSIII's now and keep my data and all 3 were fine with moving my upgrade date up--no checking with a supervisor or anything.
I know a lot can depend on who you get, but sometimes if you just call and ask you may be surprised.
Hope this works for someone moving forward.
they definately did not help me. they wouldnt push up my upgrade date from august 8 to now. sucks you would think after being a verizon customer for 12 years they may try to help you out a little bit more. it just makes you not want to give them your money at all but damn i wanna get rid of my bolt finally and get a gs3 for something new. the only reason i truly rooted my thunderbolt was to get better battery life and some customization of course.... damn i want a new phone
I advise anyone considering a GS3 from Verizon,
That you should think about and thank Verizon for the only GS3 with a locked bootloader....
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I advise anyone considering a GS3 from Verizon,
That you should think about and thank Verizon for the only GS3 with a locked bootloader....
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Heh that's not surprising. Verizon is notorious for locking bootloaders.
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Honestly, I just switched to Verizon from Sprint. Going from my Nexus S 4G to the HTC Thunderbolt. The one thing I miss is ICS.
I plan on going to the GS3 later though
Don't worry we are scheduled to get ics this month or next from what they have said anyhow. I don't know if it has been delayed though.
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Yup, that was my first question when the guy handed the phone to me. "Will it have the ICS update?"
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Heh that's not surprising. Verizon is notorious for locking bootloaders.
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Haha, yeah no real big surprise I suppose, though it was the first Samsung device I can think of to get such "special" treatment.
Despite Verizons' efforts to lock it down, it only took devs a day to achieve Root and recovery for it.
So I don't suppose that should stand in anyone's way of their decision now.
Update: still have 6 months with this thing, but i was able to preorder a nexus 7! Hopefully that keeps me occupied. Latest android software, pure google, quad core... I think i can last 6 more months :thumbup:
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It'll get bypassed in no time. I wouldn't worry about it. So far the only thing this Tbolt has going for it is the camera and music software. SRS with Sony Xtreme Bass Ear buds sounds pretty awesome. That aside this is my second Tbolt in 6 days. My first one did a reboot on Saturday as I left Verizon so I figured it was just a fluke or update. The second time was when I was on my way home from college. Then Tuesday it boot looped then just sat at the HTC boot logo.
Yesterday I bought the GS3 (full retail, ouch!), and honestly I don't think it's that great. Yes it looks great, and the display is awesome, but I got so used to the awesome battery life of the TB with the extended battery, that I took it for granted. I barely used my phone today and I got down to 15% after a full day, whereas my TB would have been around 60-75% remaining. I also noticed that because it's so thin and slick, it's difficult to easily hold without it slipping.
I'm actually leaning towards returning the GS3 and going back to the TB.
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Yesterday I bought the GS3 (full retail, ouch!), and honestly I don't think it's that great. Yes it looks great, and the display is awesome, but I got so used to the awesome battery life of the TB with the extended battery, that I took it for granted. I barely used my phone today and I got down to 15% after a full day, whereas my TB would have been around 60-75% remaining. I also noticed that because it's so thin and slick, it's difficult to easily hold without it slipping.
I'm actually leaning towards returning the GS3 and going back to the TB.
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I thought about grabing one, but couldnt let go of the unlimited data or pay retail prices. I would love to have a device with the latest android but is it really worth giving up unlimited data? imho not so much.
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I thought about grabing one, but couldnt let go of the unlimited data or pay retail prices. I would love to have a device with the latest android but is it really worth giving up unlimited data? imho not so much.
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+1... plus eventually we will get updated to the latest builds (hopefully) through rom development.
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This will be my 3rd HTC phone. Had the HTC Hero first, HTC EVO, and now I will be getting the EVO 4G LTE model sept 1st when I'm allowed to use my 2 year upgrade. I would like to know if there are any specific problems with this phone. I read a few things after it came out about the battery overheating easily, and also an issue about you losing the wifi card function thing. I really dislike the fact that the battery is built in. No way of changing it if it loses its capacity over a few years (unless you take the phone apart maybe). Are these issues still there, and are there any new ones? I will be rooting it day one of course as long whatever version I get then will be rootable at the time.
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This will be my 3rd HTC phone. Had the HTC Hero first, HTC EVO, and now I will be getting the EVO 4G LTE model sept 1st when I'm allowed to use my 2 year upgrade. I would like to know if there are any specific problems with this phone. I read a few things after it came out about the battery overheating easily, and also an issue about you losing the wifi card function thing. I really dislike the fact that the battery is built in. No way of changing it if it loses its capacity over a few years (unless you take the phone apart maybe). Are these issues still there, and are there any new ones? I will be rooting it day one of course as long whatever version I get then will be rootable at the time.
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If you root you'll be fine, I haven't had any overheating at all and I'm overclocked to 1.9. The battery life is great. There's also a video out there on you tube showing how to change the battery and it looks pretty easy. Best phone I've ever had by far, coming from the og evo you'll be quite happy. Welcome aboard.
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Be prepared for terrible 3g speeds indefinitely.
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be prepared for extreme hard-ons resulting from extensive usage of the phone, as well as immense amounts of opposite sex attention when using device in a crowd....
The phone does have AIDS.
Aggravating Inappropriate Dropped Signal
The multitasking problem is the biggest flaw with the phone. Apparently some of the ROMs have improved things but I haven't rooted yet so I don't know for sure. I don't think any have fully fixed the problem (could be wrong though) Basically if you switch apps and then switch back to the original app it will reload. Very annoying and wastes a few seconds every time you switch apps. Hope it will get fixed in an OTA soon.
Otherwise it's great, the camera and screen are fantastic.
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If you are looking for flaws, you will get all the answers you want. So far this is the best phone I've had. Ask for what makes this phone great and it will be the best phone you can have. You can take the best pictures, best screen resolution.
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This will be my 3rd HTC phone. Had the HTC Hero first, HTC EVO, and now I will be getting the EVO 4G LTE model sept 1st when I'm allowed to use my 2 year upgrade. I would like to know if there are any specific problems with this phone. I read a few things after it came out about the battery overheating easily, and also an issue about you losing the wifi card function thing. I really dislike the fact that the battery is built in. No way of changing it if it loses its capacity over a few years (unless you take the phone apart maybe). Are these issues still there, and are there any new ones? I will be rooting it day one of course as long whatever version I get then will be rootable at the time.
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The evo is a great phone. The battery does tend to get warm during heavy usage as with all phones but it doesn't "overheat". The wifi issue some people had was due to the trash ui that is sense which was fixed during the latest ota. Since you said the you will be rooting day one the mean rom fixes the multitasking issue and does improve your battery life considerably as does boost performance. Whether you get hboot 1.15 (the latest ota) out of the box or not, you will still be able to root your just won't be able to get s- off which you don't really need to begin with. The evo is the best Android smartphone on the market Imo and you should definitely get it. I have the evo gs3 and the one x and I can safely say the evo is the best one out of the three.
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You'll be impressed. The design grows on you. I used to love the One X design but as time passed, I realized the EVO just looks like a beastly powerhouse. Multitasking and possible WiFi drop issues, you're good to go. Check out some other launchers if you get bored of sense.
Had the phone since day 1 and I'm still impressed. In a way, I feel bad for people on other phones. They just don't know what they're missing out on.
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If you'll be hanging around theEVO 4G LTE forum, you'll find a lot of threads created by people asking for opinions on buying this phone.
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If your in an area with LTE turned on and the coverage is spotty at best, be prepared for it to have problems switching back to 3G.
It will get stuck on 1x or you will have no data untill you reboot..
Yeah its easy to take battery out, but my friends, there is no battery on the market, to replace it with.. i checked everywhere, anyone have an answer to this... is there a battery on the market we can put in the evo 4g lte, when it goes bad.. and i dont mean extended
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Yeah its easy to take battery out, but my friends, there is no battery on the market, to replace it with.. i checked everywhere, anyone have an answer to this... is there a battery on the market we can put in the evo 4g lte, when it goes bad.. and i dont mean extended
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There is a thread about replacement batteries for the lte
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Watch out for light bleed from the home button when the screen is dark. Some phones have it, others don't/
3G speeds suck, multitasking on the phone works when it wants to and sense is... well sense. the hardware is fantastic. once the devs crack the aosp code I'm flashing it and this phone will better than the gs on every aspect. Those 2gb of ram will mean nothing.
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3G speeds suck, multitasking on the phone works when it wants to and sense is... well sense. the hardware is fantastic. once the devs crack the aosp code I'm flashing it and this phone will better than the gs on every aspect. Those 2gb of ram will mean nothing.
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All true.
Considering the JB AOSP ROM by Deck is already almost ready to be a daily driver, I'd say by September 1st the OP will have no issues taking full advantage of this phone's hardware! This Jellybean upgrade is SO much better than I anticipated. WOW!
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Screen flicker its highly noticeable on the batter graph screen and when you are at the market loading screen
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ordered mine
i just ordered mine, waiting for thursday to get here so i can get it, i ordered it white....:good:
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Screen flicker its highly noticeable on the batter graph screen and when you are at the market loading screen
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Umm mine does not flicker on battery stats or market.
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If you rely on IMAP/POP or Exchange for E-mail, you'll find the HTC mail app is flawed...
The issue with rendering font sizes on HTML messages PISSES ME OFF to no end. I want to drive up to the nearest HTC office and throw this thing through their window.
HTC built a pinch-zoom feature in the mail and messaging apps. I prefer the smallest font sizes available, and the "small" setting is barely sufficient on SMS threads. E-mail is a different story as the font/size preference is completely ignored on HTML content. Not only do you have to tap to "display images" on EVERY E-mail, the text also appears ridiculously large, to the point where the message won't fit on a single screen and must be scrolled/panned.
I don't see how/why ROMs haven't addressed this issue yet and I've tried Fresh and MeanROM already. I'd like to ask them about this problem but I don't have enough posts yet to bring this up in the dev forums.
Does EVERYONE use GMail exclusively or what?
Against my own advice of buying a Nexus I am about to buy a Dinc4G off contract and simply because I broke my Dinc2 screen two times in a row...
How is the Dinc4G? Any issues (software or hardware glitches)? I want to ensure that it is a good phone. I know it has great specs, but that is half the story. The other half is living with it (and I learned from my experience with the Droid X2 and Transformer prime)..
So any issues at all? Or is it smooth sailing?
EDIT: OMG! I bought the phone!
Now please god, let me make up some of that cash from the Dinc2 sale.
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Against my own advice of buying a Nexus I am about to buy a Dinc4G off contract and simply because I broke my Dinc2 screen two times in a row...
How is the Dinc4G? Any issues (software or hardware glitches)? I want to ensure that it is a good phone. I know it has great specs, but that is half the story. The other half is living with it (and I learned from my experience with the Droid X2 and Transformer prime)..
So any issues at all? Or is it smooth sailing?
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i would say smooth sailing, well the sdcard thingy, but the only problem i have had is waiting for root.
I like mine. It's noticeably faster than the Incredible 2. I bought a 64GB SDCard from Amazon for $44.
I think you'd like it. S off is coming. I liked the og Inc better than my Inc 2 and the 4g reminds me of the first incredible. And you already know the devs are good ones.
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One thing is my first 4g had about 10 dead pixels so I got a new one. The new one has some of the back light bleeding from the bottom bezel though but that's nbd to me
the form factor is closer to the og inc than inc2 (though not *That* different)
i have no complaints with mine, and plan on keeping it for a long time...even when the dlx/dna launches (ill just swap sims when i want use one or the other)
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i would say smooth sailing, well the sdcard thingy, but the only problem i have had is waiting for root.
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Hold on a sec! You said what now about SD cards? I guess it shouldn't be major issue but I'd like to hear moar!
I am about to finalize the deal and I don't wanna over think this. Yes, I was an idiot to drop my Dinc2 and crack the screen for a second time, and it cracked easily since I probably didn't install it properly first time around. And yes, it is gonna be expensive to go off contract, but anywho... i hope the resale value for the Dinc4G is good ones my upgrade comes around.... :/
Man, do I know how to waste good money . Anyway gang, I will shortly join you and we can continue our crusade of the missing OTA update for Key Lime Pie... (4.2, I guess, ain't it!)
Welcome back to the land of Dix! Thanks all! I hope I don't mess up my future phones like this... It is only after you drop and break a phone you realize that you have to treat these devices like babies... Don't Drop Them!
Personally, I like mine but the build quality has been questionable. I took my first one back after a day of use because the screen was discolored, used the next one for about a month with a creaky battery cover before a crack started forming at the headphone jack, and finally the one I have now seems acceptable. The only design annoyances I've found are that the camera lens clicks as it focuses (bad for video) and the buttons don't have much feedback. Reception could be better, but it generally works fine.
Other than that, good software, good screen, good battery life.
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Hold on a sec! You said what now about SD cards? I guess it shouldn't be major issue but I'd like to hear moar!
I am about to finalize the deal and I don't wanna over think this. Yes, I was an idiot to drop my Dinc2 and crack the screen for a second time, and it cracked easily since I probably didn't install it properly first time around. And yes, it is gonna be expensive to go off contract, but anywho... i hope the resale value for the Dinc4G is good ones my upgrade comes around.... :/
Man, do I know how to waste good money . Anyway gang, I will shortly join you and we can continue our crusade of the missing OTA update for Key Lime Pie... (4.2, I guess, ain't it!)
Welcome back to the land of Dix! Thanks all! I hope I don't mess up my future phones like this... It is only after you drop and break a phone you realize that you have to treat these devices like babies... Don't Drop Them!
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the sdcard issue is the internal sd, will not let you transfer apps to the extsd, but root might cure that, not sure. i think all the new phones have this issue as well.
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Personally, I like mine but the build quality has been questionable. I took my first one back after a day of use because the screen was discolored...
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This. Check out the original thread about the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754248
I swapped out my DInc4G twice with Best Buy because of the screen discoloration issue. The last phone I received from Best Buy had the same issue and HTC was kind enough to exchange my phone for a new one. I'm currently on my third DInc4G. All was fine until a month ago when the screen discoloration appeared on my current phone. I may contact HTC again but I've been busy and don't feel like going through the hassle of setting up my phone again.
I haven't experienced any other issues with the phone. The battery life is great compared to my OG DInc, and once we get s-off, it will be an even better phone.
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This. Check out the original thread about the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754248
I swapped out my DInc4G twice with Best Buy because of the screen discoloration issue. The last phone I received from Best Buy had the same issue and HTC was kind enough to exchange my phone for a new one. I'm currently on my third DInc4G. All was fine until a month ago when the screen discoloration appeared on my current phone. I may contact HTC again but I've been busy and don't feel like going through the hassle of setting up my phone again.
I haven't experienced any other issues with the phone. The battery life is great compared to my OG DInc, and once we get s-off, it will be an even better phone.
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Haha, damn. I just bought it. Anyway, sounds like the screen discoloration issue is primarily due to the glue not having fully cured and all? And I was guessing this has solid build quality. Well, you always have a few bad ones, but I wonder if I activate a Dinc4G on my line and I have issues down the road, can I do a Certified replacement from Verizon?
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the sdcard issue is the internal sd, will not let you transfer apps to the extsd, but root might cure that, not sure. i think all the new phones have this issue as well.
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That is an ICS issue, not specific to this phone. I'm hopeful there is a fix once rooted.
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No probs with mine and I've had it for a few months now. Accessories are quite limited. Other than that, it's a great phone.
But I like the Rezound a little better. The email implementation feature wise isn't as good on the DINC 4G but it works well.
Enjoy your new toy! Now go get yourself a case!
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Nyobie said:
No probs with mine and I've had it for a few months now. Accessories are quite limited. Other than that, it's a great phone.
But I like the Rezound a little better. The email implementation feature wise isn't as good on the DINC 4G but it works well.
Enjoy your new toy! Now go get yourself a case!
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Loved my rez too sans the terrible battery life. Anybody know if we are slated to get jb?
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brycekerr said:
Loved my rez too sans the terrible battery life. Anybody know if we are slated to get jb?
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Welcome aboard! The otter box defender looks cool and doesn't blur the screen to badly
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Welcome aboard! The otter box defender looks cool and doesn't blur the screen to badly
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Unrelated question, but performance wise is the Dinc4G better than the Gnex? Just curious, as I bought this over the Gnex as it has newer processor etc.
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Unrelated question, but performance wise is the Dinc4G better than the Gnex? Just curious, as I bought this over the Gnex as it has newer processor etc.
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Yes
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Yes
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I currently own both and my gnex running jb smokes my dinc, but time will tell if that stays the case as development for this device...well....develops
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I've had mine for a week and I am extremely happy with it in every way. I was surprised too cause I like it a hell of alot more than I thought I would I hesitated in buying it but now love it. I guess you could say I am tickled to ****ing death.
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I've had mine for a week and I am extremely happy with it in every way. I was surprised too cause I like it a hell of alot more than I thought I would I hesitated in buying it but now love it. I guess you could say I am tickled to ****ing death.
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YEAH! I just got mine and already very happy. The 4G is the first thing to blow my mind! It is better than the WiFi speed I get at my room (though right next to the router, I should get exceptional WiFi)!
Now, get me up to speed, y'all! Is it okay to update to the latest OTA? And do we have root? Or should I just wait till the S-OFF rather than root it now? :cyclops: :fingers-crossed:
Cheers!
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YEAH! I just got mine and already very happy. The 4G is the first thing to blow my mind! It is better than the WiFi speed I get at my room (though right next to the router, I should get exceptional WiFi)!
Now, get me up to speed, y'all! Is it okay to update to the latest OTA? And do we have root? Or should I just wait till the S-OFF rather than root it now? :cyclops: :fingers-crossed:
Cheers!
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well, we are waiting on a s-off exploit, yes you need the new ota to run the exploit. i would wait for that if i were you, but i don't know how long it will be before it's released. that's about it.
I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
I wouldn't buy a phone based on what might happen in the future. If nothing else, you could always sell it and buy one unlocked and s off.
The S3 is decent although old and I suspect dev support is on the downhill slope. I'm personally not a fan of the Razr. If it was my choice to make I'd keep the DNA or sell it and get one unlocked, or get a Note 2 to hold me over until Verizon gets the next HTC. The DNA 2 or One Variant.
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
Guess its a good thing the woman that sold me mine was not familiar with smartphones, I had to show her how to take out the SIM tray. I declined the update so I could familiarize myself to sense coming from the razr maxx
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xraytid said:
why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
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You think the phone was updated and didn't just come already preloaded with the new software? I don't remember having to sit through any update, she simply opened it, popped in the sim card, and had me log into my gmail. If that's the case, then I might try that route.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
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Why do you have to point out the amazingness of this phone and make my decision even harder!? I do agree with you though. The DNA has amazing more-than-currently-needed hardware, and that's really what's making my decision so hard. I have faith in the unlock, and plenty of patience, but it's hard being a developer and not being able to dev. I hate being restricted. I'm almost to the point of getting the Note II, but the phablet size is keeping me away for now.
Thanks for the input!
I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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I am rooted and unlocked but the main reason I did it was to remap to recents button to long press menu just go get rid of the black menu bar.
Other than that I was very happy with stock.
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My DNA is still locked and unrooted and honestly it doesn't bother me too much. It is pretty awesome as is. Sure it has some annoyances but what phone doesn't?
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Guys If you want an exploit email and twitter at HTC and HTCDEV to release the 2.04 kernel source which they are LEGALLY required to do and have no done so yet. There is seriously a likely exploit there.
I'd stick with the DNA...cm 10.1 is almost done and if devs can't figure out a root method...which i think they will...you can send it off to get s-off for like $40...its not impossible to get s-off
Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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^ Truth.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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The first thing I do is ROOT when I get a phone. However I can't on the DNA b/c I'm also on 2.04. I'm actually with AT&T using the DNA. I don't have LTE, and MMS only works using GoSMS which I don't really care for. Even with the MMS issue, no LTE, and no ROOT, this phone is still worth it. If I was an actual VZW subscriber, this would be the phone to have for sure.
I want ROOT to remove the horrid software install popups when connecting by usb and to wifi tether. Other than that, the stock rom is pretty smooth. The hardware is just too BEAST to pass up. I'm coming from the OneX which was a great phone as well, but the DNA runs circles around the OneX.
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I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
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I have had numerous Moto phones and the Razr Maxx HD was a big disappointment for me; and I tried hard to love that thing. 32 GB of memory and a battery like no other, but they skimped out by only including 1 GB of RAM which gave me redraw after redraw. It reminded me of my old Charge. The DNA is by far the best stock Android phone I've ever had (15 and counting). If you don't like Sense, then just throw Nova or something similar on top. I would never own a Samsung phone again, but if you're okay with the plastic, crappy feel, the S3 probably has the easiest phone to root and the most custom ROM's.
If you guys want any hope of an exploit, Twitter and email HTC and htcdev to release the kernel source! They are violating the gpl by not doing that.
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Had the Razr as well and loved it but the 1gb of RAM was the problem. Had they put 2gb in the HD's, right now, they would be owning market.
The DNA is amazing even unrooted. Power toggles and Nova make this phone completely unique and i haven't even played with ADW and other launchers. Just crazy fast and lightning quick.