I just got an update for Superuser from Google Play, v3.1(42), released today. In the changelog, Temp Unroot and OTA survival options have been added. I think this might be useful for those of us who are rooted when getting the OTA update. I plan on trying it out.
I don't have a third party "root keeper" type application installed, is there any possibility that this is just as good?
brons2 said:
I just got an update for Superuser from Google Play, v3.1(42), released today. In the changelog, Temp Unroot and OTA survival options have been added. I think this might be useful for those of us who are rooted when getting the OTA update. I plan on trying it out.
I don't have a third party "root keeper" type application installed, is there any possibility that this is just as good?
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Yeah, Superuser has to compete with SuperSu, that's why those new features are in there, SuperSu has them. And yes, OTA survival works better than Voodo Roor Keeper.
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I wonder which might be better, voodoo root keeper or this? If there's even a difference.
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hasbrobot said:
I wonder which might be better, voodoo root keeper or this? If there's even a difference.
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The OTA survival on SuperSu and Superuser are slightly better than Voodo, as they automate some processes of regaining root, but it's the same concept.
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i didnt even bother to look at the change log, i should have, im glad it is built in so now i dont have to use a third party.
Has anyone tested this on their AT&T S3? I'm rooted with stock recovery.
jhc5 said:
Has anyone tested this on their AT&T S3? I'm rooted with stock recovery.
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I am actually wondering if this works as well. Would be nice to unroot, get the update and reroot without having to redo everything ie home screen settings etc
a1hildeb said:
I am actually wondering if this works as well. Would be nice to unroot, get the update and reroot without having to redo everything ie home screen settings etc
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I can't speak to other devices, but for my Transformer Infinity and Droid 4, Superuser's OTA Survival did nothing for me, and Voodoo worked perfectly.
if you have superuser in the system\app directory then you cant use the unroot as it needs to be in the \data\app directory for it to work. I tried it with both sueruser and supersu and each would only unroot if the superuser app was in the \data\app directory... i would move it their then reboot and do that... or just use the droid razr utility which will make it all stock.... best way really.
Actually, after searching around more, I think my problem may have been that the means of using the ota survival in superuser is spectacularly un-obvious and un-intuitive and nearly un-documented. I just tested using Voodo's temp unroot and then superuser to restore root and that worked.
For anyone else that finds Superuser's method confusing:
1) Before any update that might un-root your device, check the "ota survival" box in superuser
2) After an update that un-roots your device, open superuser and *uncheck* the "ota survival" box. This will restore your root and, for reasons that flabbergast me, REMOVE the backup, so ...
3) After restoring root, re-check the "ota survival" box
Compare this to Voodoo:
1) Create backup of su when rooted
2) When un-rooted, click "Restore Root"
Repeat just #2 when you get the next OTA
rooting after temp unroot
How do you root again after a temp unroot? unchecking the temp unroot doesnt work.. it does something, but afterwards the temp unroot is still checked. Also a phone restart doesnt help. Anyone else have this issue? (I'm on motorola defy+ with quarx jelly bean cyanogenmod)
temp unroot
No one can explain how to regain root over a SU temp unrooted phone?
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Noticed System Update on my droid Razr. So I pulled it and here it is totally legit
Blur_Version.6.12.173.XT912.Verizon.en.US
Installation:
1. Copy the Blur_Version.6.12.173.XT912.Verizon.en.US.zip to SD card
2. Boot in Recovery Mode (STOCK Motorola Recovery)
3. Flash
4. Enjoy!
Download:
http://www.4shared.com/zip/PA_2fa2S/Blur_Version612173XT912Verizon.html
How do you pull these update.zip?
Well we lose root?
xlightwaverx said:
Well we lose root?
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Voodoo OTA Root keeper.
I have OTA RootKeeper. The update fails after the process completes and then reboots. Wants to download again (.181 Update)
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Edit: Factory Resetting Phone / ReRooting / Applying .181 Update
Results: Still failed, but this is irrelevant to this post, since this is about .173
Seems like 181 wont take over a rooted device.
has anyone tried to unroot, update, and reroot?
Yes i did temp unroot then installed the update and restored root zero issues
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I'm stock rooted, got the notification this morning, used OTA Rootkeeper to backup su, applied update, restored root. No un-rooting required.
You need to be stock with no bloat removed for this update to work. If anything's frozen in TiBU it will not work. Custom ROMs obv will not work as well. Fully stock, rooted or unrooted only.
As for the update, meh.
I keep getting "signature verification failed."
thought it was the 181 update not 173???? confussed
sporty377 said:
thought it was the 181 update not 173???? confussed
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It's just the way Motorola names their updates. It's always named the version you should be on to use it. The update to 748 was called 744. The update to 173 was called 748 and so forth.
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Tiburon41 said:
You need to be stock with no bloat removed for this update to work. If anything's frozen in TiBU it will not work. Custom ROMs obv will not work as well. Fully stock, rooted or unrooted only.
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so if i deleted stuff i should just factory reset and then update?
sorry if stupid question but new to moto devices
I am currently unrooted and I did receive the latest OTA (March 8) release. its 17MB
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It's just the way Motorola names their updates. It's always named the version you should be on to use it. The update to 748 was called 744. The update to 173 was called 748 and so forth.
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Ok....gotcha.......i come from tbolt to razr...thanks for the heads up
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lewi3069 said:
I keep getting "signature verification failed."
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I am also getting this error can someone either post a link to a stock rom or an update that doesnt have the sig error please.
i appreciate everyones help in here
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I'm stock rooted, got the notification this morning, used OTA Rootkeeper to backup su, applied update, restored root. No un-rooting required.
You need to be stock with no bloat removed for this update to work. If anything's frozen in TiBU it will not work. Custom ROMs obv will not work as well. Fully stock, rooted or unrooted only.
As for the update, meh.
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So mistakenly, I ran the update without unfreezing the bloatware in TiBu
The update went through but now I lost root access
Do I need to reset my Razr back to stock in order to re-root it or what its the best course of action?
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Theres no reason you should have an issue. As I updated of this file. I pulled it directly from ota i didnt get it from someone else I pulled it myself.
Besides those 2 anyone else have troubles. Also if you installed speak up. Also I didnt loose root on this update at all didnt have to restore or nothing.
So first I used TB and defrosted bloat...
I am rooted with stock Rom.
Used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and it was very easy to unroot.
1) Voodoo Root Keeper>Protect Root>Temp. Un-root
2) Download and install 6.12.181 OTA
3) Use Voodoo to re-apply root
I'm sorry to say this but "it was so easy even a caveman could do it"
Everything back to normal...I'm not sure if my sq_lite hack for hotspot works however as my Razr is my secondary phone, so my Razr is not active with Verizon for now. I may switch back from my Rezound for a while tomorrow. I go back an forth with these 2. Weird I know.
Good Luck to all.
tiger505 said:
So first I used TB and defrosted bloat...
I am rooted with stock Rom.
Used Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and it was very easy to unroot.
1) Voodoo Root Keeper>Protect Root>Temp. Un-root
2) Download and install 6.12.181 OTA
3) Use Voodoo to re-apply root
I'm sorry to say this but "it was so easy even a caveman could do it"
Everything back to normal...I'm not sure if my sq_lite hack for hotspot works however as my Razr is my secondary phone, so my Razr is not active with Verizon for now. I may switch back from my Rezound for a while tomorrow. I go back an forth with these 2. Weird I know.
Good Luck to all.
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can the new update be rooted? i unknowingly updated before i rooted...
chinkster said:
can the new update be rooted? i unknowingly updated before i rooted...
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Yes use dr utility
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In hopes of getting the OTA, I un-rooted using the VooDoo rootkeeper. Other than rooting it, I am stone cold stock...
Is this sufficient to accept the OTA? (or get the OTA without an error?)
Scott
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In hopes of getting the OTA, I un-rooted using the VooDoo rootkeeper. Other than rooting it, I am stone cold stock...
Is this sufficient to accept the OTA? (or get the OTA without an error?)
Scott
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Yup.
The file that gives you problems while updating is /system/su-backup Voodoo delete it.
You're ready to go.
Cheers
I'm a little confused because this question is posted a couple of different ways in a couple of different threads . . . some with conflicting answers.
I'm running stock rooted GB. No custom recovery installed. I also have Voodoo's root keeper installed and since I know I'll lose root after the OTA, I'll likely just use voodoo to temp unroot and then delete the 'su-backup' file in /System. That's it . . . ready for the OTA, right?
If yes, my next question is: if I have to delete the 'su-backup' file to get the OTA then I obviously can't use Voodoo to restore root after the OTA. I might as well just uninstall it then, shouldn't I?
Finally, if I'm running stock rooted GB with no custom recovery installed and I delete the 'su-backup' file (or uninstall Voodoo all together for that matter), do I need to unroot to receive/install the ICS OTA when it comes? Forgive my confusion about the notion I have to unroot to receive the OTA. Coming from an LG and there, the OTA didn't care if you were rooted. It only cared that you had stock recovery. Will a rooted system on a Maxx really stop the OTA push?
Thanks!
How can I delete the su-backup? If I un-root, I can not delete?
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How can I delete the su-backup? If I un-root, I can not delete?
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Should've used the 'delete su backup' button in the app before unrooting.
If I re-root... I can delete, but then I can not unroot?
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If I re-root... I can delete, but then I can not unroot?
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I don't think so. I think the su-backup is there to allow you to reroot after unroot. In other words, if you delete the su-backup, you should still be able to use the app to unroot. You just wont be able to use the app to reroot after the ota.
Don't see that as a problem since the devs have and/or are sitting on ics root methods.
pedrotorresfilho said:
Yup.
The file that gives you problems while updating is /system/su-backup Voodoo delete it.
You're ready to go.
Cheers
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oh, i read that this file was necessary to re-root after OTA update,
can we copy it to sd card or so and use it after OTA update coz as per u, we will lose root access after OTA ?
nitin_ko said:
oh, i read that this file was necessary to re-root after OTA update,
can we copy it to sd card or so and use it after OTA update coz as per u, we will lose root access after OTA ?
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I'm not sure if the app will find the file on the SD card. Is it worth moving, unrooting and rerooting before the OTA just to test? I'm not sure about that either.
For me, I'm quickly zeroing in on the only reeason I'm keeping Voodoo installed is for the unroot feature once the OTA begins to be pushed. If the answer to my question above is root alone (i.e. no custom recovery) won't prevent the OTA from installing, I'll likely uninstall it sooner.
Once the OTA hits, it's pretty safe to asume there are/will be "not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6 . . . " root methods for ICS available the same day.
At this point I'm less concerned about rerooting after the ICS OTA than I am about voodoo stopping the OTA from being installed.
To date and after 4 different phones; DroidX, Bionic, Razr, Razr Maxx I have yet to worry about taking an update while rooted.
A rooted phone will take the update, a phone with Voodoo OTA will take an update.
As long as you have not removed apps and aren't on a custom ROM, root has no effect on any OTA updates. The OTA doesn't look for root and stop. It looks for what should be there, not what should not.
Thanks - that makes me feel better.
Can I unroot with voodoo and successfully install ICS OTA? I am currently on stock and rooted and have unfrozen all bloatwares. And have already received the update file.
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Can I unroot with voodoo and successfully install ICS OTA? I am currently on stock and rooted and have unfrozen all bloatwares. And have already received the update file.
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Well I'm sort of a "noob" to this stuff myself, but logic would tell me that if your phone was in a state not to be able to obtain the "pushed" or "pulled" ota, then you would never have gotten it. In short, if you were able to download it, then yes, you should be able to install it. And being rooted won't affect that, but I believe you will lose the root anyway during the update.
Yep! I was able to upgrade by simply using voodoo to temporarily unroot then apply the OTA. Voodoo was able to restore root and conformed with root checker.
ICS isn't living to expectation so far.
Done.
Did the OTA leave all your apps? Glad to know Rootkeeper can retain root after the update. Not sure why but I thought this update was going to leave us having to let the market replace everything like a restore.
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MichaelMcC said:
Did the OTA leave all your apps? Glad to know Rootkeeper can retain root after the update. Not sure why but I thought this update was going to leave us having to let the market replace everything like a restore.
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I was surprised as well the OTA left all my Apps pretty much intact.
so I am very excited for my Jellybean update.
I am running an original Droid Razr Maxx with the (until now) latest ICS release from Motorola and Verizon. The phone is rooted but I have never loaded any other ROMS (I don't even know how).
So can I update with the OTA Jellybean update while I am rooted? If I need to unroot my phone how can I do that? I used the "DroidRazrRoot404" tool but I cannot seem to use it to unroot my razr maxx.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
So you have the OTA? Or this is in anticipation of the OTA?
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You should be able to update with root, however you should have all official bloat installed or frozen because the OTA will check for it.
However, you will lose root after update....
??? Where did you get that JB OTA update? I am very exited as well, but most probably, it won't come out until next year...
Will OTA occur when the bloatware is frozen? Obviously not a big issue since I can unfreeze but just curious. Also, if I have a ROM on Slot 1 in SS for example, would I just go back to stock ROM and use the OTA when it comes out? Or are there any ROM/SS issues I need to consider or simply delete. And the OTA Rootkeeper app should solve my problems about losing root too right?
for those that want the download and more info about it
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/2...-331mb-update-as-build-98-72-8/#disqus_thread
ACEstrom said:
so I am very excited for my Jellybean update.
I am running an original Droid Razr Maxx with the (until now) latest ICS release from Motorola and Verizon. The phone is rooted but I have never loaded any other ROMS (I don't even know how).
So can I update with the OTA Jellybean update while I am rooted? If I need to unroot my phone how can I do that? I used the "DroidRazrRoot404" tool but I cannot seem to use it to unroot my razr maxx.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Using the download already provided, I had to do a few things to get mine to work.
1. Make sure you are on .211 Stock (if on .214 or .215 SBF back to .211)
2. Remove Safestrap or Bootstrap
3. Make sure all apps are thawed (if they were frozen)
4. Download the OTA update file DO NOT UNZIP IT
5. Place it in the root of your SD card
6. Boot into Stock Recovery holding down Power, Vol+, and Vol- and the same time.
7. Select down to Recovery and press up.
8. When you see the android laying on its back PRESS Vol+ and Vol- simultaneously.
9. Select wipe cache (this will not delete any data)
10. Select install update from External SD and select the zip file.
11. Let it run and update, should work.
I encountered an error so I had to SBF back to .211 and start over fresh, but honestly a fresh restart may not be a bad idea for performances sake.
The only issue that I see is my Razr didn't keep root. I am not sure that this is possible to keep root with this upgrade.
Used voodoo OTA rootkeeper. Protected root, temp unroot. Install, restored and used @matt's root restore fix. Works like a charm.
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R1pTheJacka said:
Will OTA occur when the bloatware is frozen? Obviously not a big issue since I can unfreeze but just curious. Also, if I have a ROM on Slot 1 in SS for example, would I just go back to stock ROM and use the OTA when it comes out? Or are there any ROM/SS issues I need to consider or simply delete. And the OTA Rootkeeper app should solve my problems about losing root too right?
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Hey, I've been looking at the posts about the update, and it seems that If you have safestrap/bootmenu/bootstrap, you will not be able to upgrade.... If you want the upgrade, you should go back to stock .211...
If you just have some frozen apps, you will be able to update correctly
Follow the instructions that chadgauth posted...
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Stock 211 rooted. Voodoo root keeper backed up protect root, temp unroot.
Installed 4.1.2 update all good. Failed to get root back thru vodoo.
FYI cannot go back to 211 after flash 4.1.2 so now stuck
Without root till some dev comes out with a root method for us
Restore with voodoo rootkeeper then use Matt's rootfixer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064074&page=19 post#187
Make sure you have USB debugging enabled in development
Enable "Unknown Sources" in privacy
Go to settings/storage menu soft key
Computer connect - select MTP
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Tried that. For some reason it did not save the such file with vodoo so root fixer says cannot be found. Prolly some mistake I made or uncommon glitch
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Restore with voodoo rootkeeper then use Matt's rootfixer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064074&page=19 post#187
Make sure you have USB debugging enabled in development
Enable "Unknown Sources" in privacy
Go to settings/storage menu soft key
Computer connect - select MTP
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As I was installing through recovery I got an error because it was checking my preinstalled apps for ForestWallpaper.apk which I'm assuming I deleted ages ago, in addition to
e:error in /tmp/sideload/package.zip
(status 7)
Installation aborted.
..but according to this I'm screwed? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19468147&postcount=15
R1pTheJacka, You can SBF back to .211.
Also, all of you guys that are using OTA Rootkeeper, why are you temp unrooting after protecting root? On my Droid X upgrade to ICS a while back and on this OTA to JB today on the RAZR Maxx, I just protected with OTA Rootkeeper but left it rooted. Didn't temp unroot. Then upgraded and then simply restored root. No need for an extra step of fixing it after trying to restore root.
85gallon said:
You can SBF back to .211.
Also, all of you guys that are using OTA Rootkeeper, why are you temp unrooting after protecting root? On my Droid X upgrade to ICS a while back and on this OTA to JB today on the RAZR Maxx, I just protected with OTA Rootkeeper but left it rooted. Didn't temp unroot. Then upgraded and then simply restored root. No need for an extra step of fixing it after trying to restore root.
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As far as sbf back to 211 you can't it just throws you into a black screen boot loop then you have to play with the power and volume buttons yo get into recovery to reflash the job update
sttierney said:
As far as sbf back to 211 you can't it just throws you into a black screen boot loop then you have to play with the power and volume buttons yo get into recovery to reflash the job update
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It didn't for me. And even the directions that everyone is following from droidrzr.com tells you not to "temp unroot". It is kind of buried in the instructions, but it says not to temp unroot.
85gallon said:
It didn't for me. And even the directions that everyone is following from droidrzr.com tells you not to "temp unroot". It is kind of buried in the instructions, but it says not to temp unroot.
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Once your on jb I tried sfb back to 211 and it was a nightmare to get recovery to come back up got the eye then black screen. And of course I updated before the instructions came out so that's how I ended up being where I am with no root
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Once your on jb I tried sfb back to 211 and it was a nightmare to get recovery to come back up got the eye then black screen. And of course I updated before the instructions came out so that's how I ended up being where I am with no root
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I went up and edited my post to clarify that I was responding to R1pTheJacka. He never made it to JB. He errored out trying to upgrade. Never made it to JB. You are correct, if you make it to JB you can't go back from the posts I am seeing.
unable to root ota using voodo
I have successfully flashed jelly bean but was unable to restore root using voodoo root keeper. If you guys have any luck please let me know... Missing my tethering. :/
Chadwick108 said:
I have successfully flashed jelly bean but was unable to restore root using voodoo root keeper. If you guys have any luck please let me know... Missing my tethering. :/
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You can use this to get root back if you used voodoo root keeper.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35863089
Sent from my JellyBeaned Droid RAZR Maxx
error unable to use restore root
klabit87 said:
You can use this to get root back if you used voodoo root keeper.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35863089
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root keeper will not work superuser app is installed is checked and /system supports root protection but will not allow restore root.
also tried matts restore root.zip but get error message of system/bin/sh su not found....
https://doc-0k-1o-docs.googleuserco...009/*/0BzrP5DWIlpplYjFOY1MwOXFNLWc?e=download
here is the ota zip
if we flash this can we flash 4.5.141 with rsd?
any answers?
I wouldn't count on it. The ZIP seems to contain what looks like the bootloader, or at least a piece of it (ap20bl.img). Who knows what might happen after that. Motorola said a downgrade is not possible.
I would just wait for the .145 fruitcake. Then switching back and forth should be safe and painless.
ok thanks for answer
Installed 4.5.145 for fun
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ok thanks for answer
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I wanted to see for myself the GPS improvements made in the update and sacrificed losing SU/root access to the phone. The update installed without a hitch and left all my apk installed apps alone. I had a handful of apps that required root (e.g. Dropbear II, busybox, Superuser, root explorer, and seeder) and will just wait until someone figures out a new method to regain access again.
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I wanted to see for myself the GPS improvements made in the update and sacrificed losing SU/root access to the phone. The update installed without a hitch and left all my apk installed apps alone. I had a handful of apps that required root (e.g. Dropbear II, busybox, Superuser, root explorer, and seeder) and will just wait until someone figures out a new method to regain access again.
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Did you do this via the standard update or by flashing that zip yourself?
vikingarcher said:
Did you do this via the standard update or by flashing that zip yourself?
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Standard
Su ota survival
Has anyone tried to install the update after activating the superuser ota survival option
Root after sys 4.5.145 update?
fdaconta said:
The traditional preinstall method should still work. No wiping happens with that. I used it back when I first rooted my phone, everything stayed exactly as it was (all stock) except I had root too.
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This response is from the developer thread. I would respond there but the policy for members with less than 10 posts is silly.
None of the existing preinstall methods (e.g. atrix-4g-moto-fastboot or superoneclick 2.3.3) work with 4.5.145.
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Interesting. I tried it with my stock ROM that is rooted and unlocked -- ended up with a boot loop. Decided to flash a new ROM, so switched to the CM10 ROM. That seems to be working well and I think I will just not worry about this update for now.
vikingarcher said:
Interesting. I tried it with my stock ROM that is rooted and unlocked -- ended up with a boot loop. Decided to flash a new ROM, so switched to the CM10 ROM. That seems to be working well and I think I will just not worry about this update for now.
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Came across a link at Android Central that used Voodoo OTA RootKeeper to restore --> Forgot I installed this awhile back; reinstalling app restored my superuser access
Re-rooted 4.5.145 after OTA
I successfully re-rooted mine last night using the pre-install method.
Read my topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153422
From 141, to 145, back to 141.... and finally ended up with a working (and rooted) 145.