[Q] Best physical QWERTY Android device now (or coming)? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] Best physical QWERTY Android device now (or coming)? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey
Whats the best QWERTY Android phone right now (or coming in the near future)? I just need it to have XDA support by a lot of members and support (now or in the future) for Android 4.0/4.1

riahc3 said:
Hey
Whats the best QWERTY Android phone right now (or coming in the near future)? I just need it to have XDA support by a lot of members and support (now or in the future) for Android 4.0/4.1
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Xda support??
Swiftkey x and smart keyboard are pretty good...
Try out your self...
Swiftkey predicts words before you start typing which is awesome and thats why I prefer it
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aceian said:
Xda support??
Swiftkey x and smart keyboard are pretty good...
Try out your self...
Swiftkey predicts words before you start typing which is awesome and thats why I prefer it
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
I am asking for a phone.

Possibly the Sony Xperia Mini Pro. It's relatively small but it's well supported and does have official ICS.

If you look past the fact that it was released in 2010, I would definately say the HTC Desire Z aka G2. It has fantastic build quality and no qwerty devices yet, have surpased its awesomeness IMO. I have used many Samsung qwerty devices and they are just pitiful compared to the Desire Z. There are quite a few ICS roms for it here on xda.

+1 for the g2. There are quite a few ICS roms for it that are more than suitable as a daily driver. I'm still looking for a worthy successor that would add NFC, a front facing cam, and a dual core processor. That's really all it's missing.
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Pr.TOSHIBA said:
If you look past the fact that it was released in 2010, I would definately say the HTC Desire Z aka G2. It has fantastic build quality and no qwerty devices yet, have surpased its awesomeness IMO. I have used many Samsung qwerty devices and they are just pitiful compared to the Desire Z. There are quite a few ICS roms for it here on xda.
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+1 for this as well, adding on SwiftKeys prediction to the physical keyboard is nice as well. (Current rom/etc in sig).

Ticklefish said:
Possibly the Sony Xperia Mini Pro. It's relatively small but it's well supported and does have official ICS.
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The screen is a bit too small for my tastes Other than that looks like a good phone
Pr.TOSHIBA said:
If you look past the fact that it was released in 2010, I would definately say the HTC Desire Z aka G2. It has fantastic build quality and no qwerty devices yet, have surpased its awesomeness IMO. I have used many Samsung qwerty devices and they are just pitiful compared to the Desire Z. There are quite a few ICS roms for it here on xda.
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gee one said:
+1 for the g2. There are quite a few ICS roms for it that are more than suitable as a daily driver. I'm still looking for a worthy successor that would add NFC, a front facing cam, and a dual core processor. That's really all it's missing.
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+1 for this as well, adding on SwiftKeys prediction to the physical keyboard is nice as well. (Current rom/etc in sig).
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Well, I did not state this but I currently have a Desire Z and as of right now, it is not getting a officialy ICS update. Im having problems with it (hardware wise looks like) and Desire Zs are not being sold anymore so im SOL. Thats why Im asking on another physical QWERTY keyboard devices that has XDA support AND has or will recieve a official update to ICS/JB.

Motorola Droid 4?
Posted from my rooted Motorola Atrix.

Xperia Pro MK16i/a. Got official ICS update from sony and ICS custom rom from freexperia/cyanogenmod team. single core processor msm8255 clocked at 1Ghz and 512mb of ram, HDPI devices. The bigger version of xperia mini pro sk17.
In my opinion, moto droid 3 is much better in term of hardware but the stupidity of motorola locking the bootloader, i suggest better you buy xperia pro..

Verizon just announced the droid incredible- this is pretty close, but it's missing the hardware keyboard. It has an S4 dual core, NFC, micro SD, and it's made by HTC. All they need to do now is add a keyboard and sell it on T-mo, or at least sell it with T-mo compatible bands.
Some might think the 4" screen size is too small, especially compared to some of the recent flagship phones. I don't watch many movies on my phone, so I would rather have portability and a convenient form factor. If the large screen trend continues, we might see bag phones make a comeback.
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I guess the era of physical keyboards is over, there really are no phones out there that aren't borderline obsolete and if you want to buy unlocked then good luck getting anything released after 2010
Honestly I dont get why none of those chinese cloners can make a good 6577 or 6589 phone with a slide-out qwerty

you don't specify a provider....
riahc3 said:
Hey
Whats the best QWERTY Android phone right now (or coming in the near future)? I just need it to have XDA support by a lot of members and support (now or in the future) for Android 4.0/4.1
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Samsung galaxy s Relay for tmobile

riahc3 said:
Hey
Whats the best QWERTY Android phone right now (or coming in the near future)? I just need it to have XDA support by a lot of members and support (now or in the future) for Android 4.0/4.1
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I would've gone for the Samsung Galaxy Stratosphere II (if it were available in my country), so I had to settle for SE Xperia Pro MK16i. I got really tired of full-touch screen slabs, so I went back to slide-out qwerty models. I really have no options available (imports are out of the question because I want local support in case of faulty hardware/manufacture defects and phone has to be compatible with our GSM infrastructure), it's sad I have to buy a 2011 model phone to use in 2013.

I dont know if you would be satisfied with its 800MHz single-core processor, but im actually quite pleased with the original qwerty on my LG Optimus L5, screen size iz fine 4.0'', and it has a lot of languages in it.

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[Q] X10 mini or X8?

I currently have a HTC Magic but I am getting annoyed with the lack of decent stable roms for it so I have been shopping around and for my budget I have a choice of either an X10 mini or the new X8 but wanted to find out which would be better as I understand the X8 is like the X10 mini but with a bigger screen and a lower camera

Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.

adils3d said:
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.

adils3d said:
Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
VooDoo` said:
With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.
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I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison

Gavincol78 said:
Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison
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i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents

knudsen81 said:
i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents
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Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen

My thought
Personally I like more X8. I've got X10 mini pro two months ago. I like it, It is nice device but small resolution restrict from getting all those great apps so it is not ideal. I also thought I will use HW keyboard a lot but most of time I'm just lazy to do it. On screen keyboard could be good enough for me. Camera with autofocus is nice but I have problem with fingerprints on lens everytime I check lens out. Such small phone is hard to avoid touching the lens. And also AF is not working perfectly. I experienced decently blured pictures from time to time (just bad focus, not shutter problem). So, with X8 you can save some money and still get slightly more usable device thus better resolution. Personally I'm thinking about switch to X8 from my X10 mini.

Gavincol78 said:
Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen
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the x10 mini has a good t9 keyboard, but the x8 comes with a on-screen qwerty keyboard like the x10 and not as the mini's keyboard

disreguard adils3d's juvenile comments lol...
Anyway i have a mini pro, and its a gr8 little phone but i bought it specificly because i wanted a small smartphone and a taste of android with T9 style onsceen keypad for sms...using the slider more for emails etc.
The X8 Depends if a bigger screen is more important to you and your not bothered about the lesser camera fucntions and like an onscreen qwerty apart from that i dont think there is any difference apart from price.
In the uk o2 are selling the X8 for £130!!!!

unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked

Gavincol78 said:
unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked
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Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it

knudsen81 said:
Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it
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I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1

Gavincol78 said:
I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1
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i don't know with sense but custom rom from villian team works great with hero
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/

X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8

raiderkilo said:
X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8
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I don't think that except camera there is any superior feature in mini than x8..
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As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.

ToTTenTranz said:
As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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Well said..

I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic

iversen20 said:
I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic
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Well that would be true if SE hadn't installed a locked bootloader, able to boot only their signed roms...
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please help me between those two choieces..

Hello to all members,
I am totally new to this forum and I love it from the very first impression.
I am noob and I know nothing much about android, however I have started to read a lot on this forum. Thanks to all those nice helping guys around.
I am about to buy an android mobile, And, in my budged Sony Xperia X8 and LG Optimus One fits best. I am in great confusion about which phone i should buy.
What i think is X8 is definitely not going to get 2.2 update. But I liked it`s music quality. And in some review, i read that internet browsing his smoother on it than O1. Is that really true?
I want to use lot of internet and music. Please can someone help me out with this?
I done much googling on this, and finally created this thread.
So, in short i wanted to ask you guys to please help about following-
1)can I use those android mobiles as modem, i run windows XP
2)Is it better than symbian s60 ? I am using nokia n72 from past 4 years. Should I switch myself to android?
3)considering internet experiance, which mobile is better?
are there any good browsers available there for more better experiance?
4)according to your experiance, which one should i really buy?
I am waiting eagerly for your responses as I had lot of panic in deciding between these two mobiles. Also, if you know any mobile within same price range let me know.

1)can I use those android mobiles as modem, i run windows XP
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Wireless/USB Tethering, i guess. Most new Android phones come with this Though I'm not sure if this applies to Eclair (2.1)
2)Is it better than symbian s60 ? I am using nokia n72 from past 4 years. Should I switch myself to android?
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I would say yes. Android is much more open and customizable than Symbian. However, Symbian devices require much less CPU and RAM. And in case you ask me, I'd go for Android.
3)considering internet experiance, which mobile is better?
are there any good browsers available there for more better experiance?
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Both of them have a 320x480 resolution, so as screen readability is concerned, I think they're the same. Both don't have flash. There are many browsers are there designed for different kinds of goals. Skyfire, for instance, aims to be able to play those flash videos, even though the phone doesn't have flash player.
By the way, I think the X8 doesn't have multitouch, so no pinch zoom. Pinch zoom is important for me O1 scores here.
according to your experiance, which one should i really buy?
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O1, since we're going to get (hopefully) Gingerbread soon enough. + multitouch (though buggy), it's newer, bigger RAM and internal memory, etc.

It pretty much answers itself when you post the question in optimus one forum lol, personally I was also considering x8, but since I'm a techie, one look at the ram on x8 (I believe its 128mb) compared to 512mb on optimus one, it was a clear decision.

Thanks!
AzNxJoHnNy said:
It pretty much answers itself when you post the question in optimus one forum lol, personally I was also considering x8, but since I'm a techie, one look at the ram on x8 (I believe its 128mb) compared to 512mb on optimus one, it was a clear decision.
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Thanks so much for your reply AzNxJoHnNy. Yeah, As you said, I am almost about to buy O1. I think I will come to know more once I got my own hands on it.

Thank you so much!
kpbotbot said:
Wireless/USB Tethering, i guess. Most new Android phones come with this Though I'm not sure if this applies to Eclair (2.1)
I would say yes. Android is much more open and customizable than Symbian. However, Symbian devices require much less CPU and RAM. And in case you ask me, I'd go for Android.
Both of them have a 320x480 resolution, so as screen readability is concerned, I think they're the same. Both don't have flash. There are many browsers are there designed for different kinds of goals. Skyfire, for instance, aims to be able to play those flash videos, even though the phone doesn't have flash player.
By the way, I think the X8 doesn't have multitouch, so no pinch zoom. Pinch zoom is important for me O1 scores here.
O1, since we're going to get (hopefully) Gingerbread soon enough. + multitouch (though buggy), it's newer, bigger RAM and internal memory, etc.
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Hey kpbotbot, Thank you so much for your efforts and a VERY quick reply. I think I should go for O1 now. Are there any more mobiles you can suggest? just asking.

Nokia 1100
Google it.

mmost said:
Hey kpbotbot, Thank you so much for your efforts and a VERY quick reply. I think I should go for O1 now. Are there any more mobiles you can suggest? just asking.
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No problem. That's the power of being stuck at home lol. Anyway, here are other phones I considered in the same price range:
1. HTC Wildfire - didn't choose because of screen resolution (240x 320, too low).
2. Samsung Galaxy Spica - I thought there was no multitouch, is old (yeah, for me), no official Gingerbread (considering the fact that the decision was made last december 2010)
3. Galaxy 3/5 - Screen resolution, no Gingerbread.
4. Optimus Chic - I couldn't wait for the release. It was a good decision on choosing the O1 though, since there is no Chic subforum here in xda afaik.
5. Maybe I forgot some other phones. These were my best choices last December

Motorola defy is the next step forward from these phones. Google for it's specs.

The only + X8 has over O1 is headphone audio quality. O1 is pain for ears, even with good headphones.

Ice cream sandwich 4.0

Next week ice cream sandwich is coming. We will be able to install it on the Legend
without waiting HTC to release it for the Legend ?
How long will take to Cyanogen mod to release ice cream sandwich version?

Htc wont release it for legend, but as for cyanogen, I think as soon as the source for ics is avalible.
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Yes but ICS will be compatible for all devices without the necessary manufacture mod for each device.
So we will be able to flash the original rom from Google?

But isn't it just for dual-core devices?
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filipathtc said:
But isn't it just for dual-core devices?
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No, certainly not.
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Yes but ICS will be compatible for all devices without the necessary manufacture mod for each device.
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So you mean that Google will release ICS supporting all those (roughly estimated) 400 completely different platforms and a huge load of even more devices?
I absolutely doubt that.

I think google's meaning about this words, is for all the device after they release ics4.0

Tonyshun87 said:
I think google's meaning about this words, is for all the device after they release ics4.0
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is what i am thinking
+1

i'm sure that HTC don't develop ice cream for Legend...

ali ba said:
No, certainly not.
So you mean that Google will release ICS supporting all those (roughly estimated) 400 completely different platforms and a huge load of even more devices?
I absolutely doubt that.
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You never know, they may have a hyper visor and have worked on the most popular chipsets to allow this to happen Wishful thinking though

TheLegendaryJay said:
You never know, they may have a hyper visor and have worked on the most popular chipsets to allow this to happen Wishful thinking though
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Actually they already developed that and called it "Dalvik" . It's what makes running the same app on completely different devices possible.
Still, for a hyper-visor to work you need a hardware abstraction layer and that brings us back to the problem I mentioned above.

The legend with the pass of the time are old... and I think that Ice Cream Dont Works fine in Legend... unless the legend stay overclocked...
Its My Opinion ^^

but you dont have to destroy our dreams
the legend is a grandpa,no doubt, but it WOULD be nice to even try to bring it to life. and thats the real deal,huh
(otherwise i´ve to save some money for a new phone,..grr)

derarzt said:
but you dont have to destroy our dreams
the legend is a grandpa,no doubt, but it WOULD be nice to even try to bring it to life. and thats the real deal,huh
(otherwise i´ve to save some money for a new phone,..grr)
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start saving ;p
I bet ice cream will barely run 'normal' on the desire, and that is a 1ghz phone, so where do we stand with our max clocked 806mhz?
I rather see more 2.3 roms with better looks and tweaks etc. then a 4.0 rom
But hey that just my opinion

I actually think 4.0 will run smoother then 2.3 due to the hardware acceleration, I think we have enough of gpu power.. I don't see why it shouldn't work

Google's statement:
If a phone runs 2.3, it will also be able to run 4.0
If only there would be a dev that is up to the job. That's the problem.
Also, if you're considering that everyone who had the Legend from day 1, their 2 year contracts are almost over and I think they would like a new phone as well ^^

There is no phone right now like our old legend. Compact, well built, everything that big ones have, legend has. Desire has the same GPU even.. Legend 2 would be nice..

I doubt they would do that
It's all about bigger screens nowadays (not a bad thing imo) but I have to admit, the Legend has a design that no other phone can compare with. I loved it when I had it in the old days!

Cobesz said:
Also, if you're considering that everyone who had the Legend from day 1, their 2 year contracts are almost over and I think they would like a new phone as well ^^
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Here in Canada, the only North American country who sold the Legend, we have 3 year contracts maximum (minimum, rather). Not saying I have one, but it's probably going to be a crappy feeling when everyone else abandons and you're stuck alone.
Sent from my Legend using XDA App

I see... Well, I might be getting a new (old) Legend soon. If I get the device, I'm going to give it a try in porting (My first attempt ever though, don't kill me if it takes to long or I'll be failing)

slovenec88 said:
There is no phone right now like our old legend. Compact, well built, everything that big ones have, legend has. Desire has the same GPU even.. Legend 2 would be nice..
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I Agree very strongly, my choice in the legend, was about the size, I upgraded from a Sony-Ericsson W595 so size was similar...
My wife got the DHD just after me, and it's TOOOOOOO big, not comfortable in my pocket at all.
If I had to choose a new phone to replace the Legend, it would currently have to be the HTC Rhyme, ok, its a bit bigger then the legend, but it is still smaller then the DHD, and its got some nice specs on it. Only problem is, I believe the Rhyme is only available on the optus network :-(
My 1c worth

Changing phone

Hey guys,
I'm changing my phone in just a month or so. So i'd like to get some opinions on what phone to choose.
So my criterias are:
I want a phone that has tweaking options (i mean not bootloader locked or stuff like that), with either a dual-core processor or a sliding full qwerty keyboard (both would be brilliant, but i'm not sure it's possible to find some right now).
Other than that, i really don't care, nor about the manufacturer nor about the price (keep cool on this one though, if we could stay under 600$ it would be better ^^)
Thanks for your help, and thanks for having been helping me with a phone i love (HTC Desire HD) for more than one year now!
See you in the comments~

Droid 3 ou 4 seems to fit better your wants, but I see lots of users complaining about bad support and slow updates. There is Xperia Pro, wich isn't dual core, but it's great phone and have a lot of tweaks, unlocked bootloader and will get ICS in May or June, maybe a bit earlier. It have a full team of devs working on CM7/9 for it.
FreeXperiaTeam is a great team, who dev CM7/9 for Xperia 2011 devices, and hopefully, as soon as possible, to 2012 line too.
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Thanks, i tought about the droid 4. But i think the bootloader is locked on the droid series, ain't they?
The SE XPERIA Pro seems like a good choice, maybe not as powerful as i'd like it though... sorry for being so precise again...
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Thanks, i tought about the droid 4. But i think the bootloader is locked on the droid series, ain't they?
The SE XPERIA Pro seems like a good choice, maybe not as powerful as i'd like it though... sorry for being so precise again...
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I don't know too much about Droid devices. I am a SE owner and fan, so it may change my minda bit...
But I don't know any other modern QWERTY Android phones. They seems to be a little forgotten by manufacturers.
Oh, there is a Samsung one. I think it's Infuse, Captive, or something like that, I can't remember the name. Try going to gsmarena.com and search for Droid 4, then there should be something like ''related phones''.
Do the same for SE Xperia Pro (wich is a awesome phone. Hadn't the opportunity to play with it more than I wanted, but everything is really nice.).
And then go to Samsung, and look for the first keyboard phone you see, and let me know the name.
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should i buy this phone ? !!

hello guys , right now i'm a htc wildfire s owner and i'm looking to replace it with a new android device ( better hardware ) and iam very confused between 2 devices the Motorola Atrix 4g and the Sony Xperia Sola but i kinda like the Atrix because of this huge forum there is alot of Roms and stuff but i wanted u Atrix owners to help me explain some points
- i read here on xda that all the new Atrix devices well not be unlocked link here sooo is that true ?
- if i bought this device i think i'll unlock it after a couple weeks and if i wanted to know what isn't exactly working in the CM9 rom cuz it's my favorite and does toggling bluetooth and wifi force restart the device ( ohhh god i sufferd this issue with my wfs ) and does the HDMI port work with ICS based roms ? !!
- is there a webtop for ics roms ?
- in worst cases is CM7 fully working ? !! ( stable ) cuz i can't imagine my self stuck with the orginal rom
that's it for now, thank u guys in advance hope to to join u soon

The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)

weaz_da_smel said:
The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....

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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! )
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Resolution of the screen is really nice but for me personally a little too high for a 4" screen.
But the main problem is the colours it produces. Blacks aren't completely black they have a slight brownish greyish look to them. The other colours in general look washed out. Doesn't bother me too much but when comparing to other phones the difference in colours is instantly noticeable.
The atrix hardware is nice. Will run anything you throw at it. We have a very nice stable cm7.2 rom
If I were you I would wait a little while longer to see if Motorola release official ICS for the atrix before buying one unless you don't mind sticking with gingerbread.
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Atrix is a very solid phone, and I would take it over the Sola.
You have GB/CM7 for now, and CM7 is very stable. ICS coming sometime in QTR 3...
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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Well the screen is also smaller on the sola, and it has a full set of sub pixels as well as the bravia engine.
The Atrix has a pentile matrix, so even though there is more pixel density, the pentile matrix makes individual pixels more visible.
Well since you're buying in egypt, there probably is a chance your local store has the initial-release stock of the atrix. But there is no garuntee, I bought a second atrix (for a friend), here in New Zealand a few weeks ago and it was unlockable,
I personally haven't tried ICS or JB because im more interested in a working phone (LOL), I don't like having to toy around with things that only work half the time and/or not at all, thats why I try to stay away from the roms until they're stable.....But still, support the developers for their hard work, even if you aren't using their roms just yet (they all look promising).
there are a lot of things not working in the CM9/CM10 roms, that even the devs can't list them all, and a lot of functionality is software-based because there is no driver support for hardware until next month or so, when we get the official ICS from Moto.
The phone works great on CM7 if you're willing to buy it now.

Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.

if my Atirx will be broken, I Will buy another Atrix. This is one of the greates devices, fingerprint lock, webtop, and many more Especialy Tegra2 and 1GB RAM

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Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
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okay your totally right the Galaxy nexus is a great phone but comparing the prices here where is live the atrix sells for 2000 EGP and the nexus for 3500 EGP so there is a huge difference that i can't afford right now and there is also a thing that i don't like about all the nexuses ( except the nexus one ) which is there is no SD Card ..... i can't really imagine my life without an SD Card

I'm considering the same 2 phones. Which phone did you buy, the Xperia Sola or the Atrix?

Atrix
the Atrix is still one of the best phones I have ever owned, and the accessories are great and probably much cheaper now

Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.

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Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Problem is that there will never be any official ICS from Motorola, and unless the Olympus ICS/JB kernel port is successful, it's likely there will never be any third party HW acceleration either. And yes, there is talk of Motorola releasing the code for the unfinished ICS kernel, but talk is one thing, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing it happen any more than I'd bet on a dead horse winning the Kentucky Derby.
Sure the device itself isn't bad, but the only support you will get for the device is dependent on a dwindling community. Honestly, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have just gotten something different, I would have ran away from the thing screaming like a little girl.

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