Hi guys, i have a question for those of you who own this awesome device since the intl version came out... what are your thoughts on the scratches resistance of the screen, and more generally the device itself?
I just got my NA version three days ago and i was wonderinf if it was worth putting a screen lrotector on it or the screen is scratches proof?
Thanks!
Sam
It will scratch..... Get a screen protector as soon as possible.
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I've had it a few days now, and i swear i have been consciously very careful with it, but i have a few scratches on my screen. only really noticeable when the screen is off, but still a pain in my ass.
i made sure nothing else was in my pockets and everything. i really don't know how they got there.
so if you're of the protection persuasion then yeah put one on imo.
Read the do i need scratch protector posts in accessories .
jje
Hmmm that sucks ... ok well I'll go buy one asap.. do you have any recommendation for the brand? I really would like one as unnoticable as possible.. I bought some cheap ones on ebay for my old touch pro2 and they are ugly as f**k :/
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I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
its hard to predict the future , as caution as one can be ,accidents do happen , dont regret till it happen
Certainly not scratchproof, got a scratch in 1day and i was carefull... get a screenprotector
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I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
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I agree and I also have a Rock case and absolutely love it.
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Scratch resistance? None. My 2 year old Desire has less than this after a month..
It's really sad, if you think about it. The GS3 has Gorilla Glass 2. If anything, it should be much harder to scratch.
That being said, my employer ordered a bunch for a launch event and all but one came back with multiple scratches on the screens. I get the distinct impression that even the iPhone's screen is more scratch resistant. Why are we going backward?
No gorrilla glass screen is scratch resistant. Sometime or the other it will definitely get a scratch. Be wary of the small minute particles like salt, dust..etc if there aint any screen protector....
If u dont want to apply a screen protector and want to keep it scratch free, here's how :
1.Take the phone
2. Put it in its box and seal it
I guarantee screen will not get a single scratch.
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DD-Ripper said:
No gorrilla glass screen is scratch resistant. Sometime or the other it will definitely get a scratch. Be wary of the small minute particles like salt, dust..etc if there aint any screen protector....
If u dont want to apply a screen protector and want to keep it scratch free, here's how :
1.Take the phone
2. Put it in its box and seal it
I guarantee screen will not get a single scratch.
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I have had many phones and I have never used a screen protector on any of them. I also have never scratched the screen on a single one. So, I can assure you that there is more than one answer to "not scratching your screen" and your ridiculous response is wildly unnecessary.
Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant. That's basically its entire claim to fame. What it isn't is shatter resistant. It is hardened to the point where things like keys and razor blades won't scratch it, but it becomes more brittle and a direct impact will shatter it. This information is freely available on the web.
In the case of the glass on the GS3, it doesn't even seem to be scratch resistant. I have heard cases of the HTC One X scratching easily as well, and it also uses Gorilla Glass 2. Very disappointing.
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I have had many phones and I have never used a screen protector on any of them. I also have never scratched the screen on a single one. So, I can assure you that there is more than one answer to "not scratching your screen" and your ridiculous response is wildly unnecessary.
Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant. That's basically its entire claim to fame. What it isn't is shatter resistant. It is hardened to the point where things like keys and razor blades won't scratch it, but it becomes more brittle and a direct impact will shatter it. This information is freely available on the web.
In the case of the glass on the GS3, it doesn't even seem to be scratch resistant. I have heard cases of the HTC One X scratching easily as well, and it also uses Gorilla Glass 2. Very disappointing.
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This is the common misconception of people who think gorrilla glass is scracth resistant. Gorrilla glass only protects the screen from cracking when slipped from the hands or pocket. Its not scratch resistant.
Gorilla glass 2 is more thinner and more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1.
The main weakness of gorrilla glass is small minute particles that have settled on the screen.
Dont believed it...???
Take a particle of salt on your fingertip and spread it on the screen. Have a look on clear sunlight and you will see a light scratch (depending on the force).
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2 weeks naked. Not a mark on it.
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This is the common misconception of people who think gorrilla glass is scracth resistant. Gorrilla glass only protects the screen from cracking when slipped from the hands or pocket. Its not scratch resistant.
Gorilla glass 2 is more thinner and more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1.
The main weakness of gorrilla glass is small minute particles that have settled on the screen.
Dont believed it...???
Take a particle of salt on your fingertip and spread it on the screen. Have a look on clear sunlight and you will see a light scratch (depending on the force).
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you are incorrect
gorilla glass IS made to be scratch resistant and not drop resistant.
also gorilla glass 2 is not more fragile then gorilla glass 1, gorilla glass 2 is 20% thinner but same strength
personally they shouldnt have made it 20% thinner instead same thickness and 20% stronger
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Scratch resistance? None. My 2 year old Desire has less than this after a month..
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Bull****
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NoOneCanHelpMe said:
I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
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not true I was very careful I have scratches! if you look at it you will say its not but if you look with screen off in the light you will see them
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My cruzerlite cases put a couple light scratches on my marble white gs3 after a day or two. Probably dust that was trapped inside, i can always buy a new backplate.
Honestly, I'm of the opinion (<--note that keyword) that anyone with scratches on this device is doing something wrong. I've had the phone just over two weeks. I don't have a screen protector, or even a case for it. It's just like it was when I got it out of the box (except that I actually put the battery in it and removed all the sticky transparent film from it). I constantly have this in my pocket with nothing besides the occasional spare change to keep it company. No scratches. At all.
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Ok, i just got my first scratch, never had it with SGS but here it is, and i always put it alone in my pocket.
So much advertising for what?
You didn't use a screenguard?
So do you think gorilla glass is scratch proof or just harder to scratch.
Is it deep or just the coating on top?
Suggest getting a screen protector maybe. I have one tiny scratch but could have been avoided with protection.
I remember life before gorilla glass.
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I was using the phone for a few days after i got it without a screen protector. I knew it was gorilla glass and stuff, but something inside kept gnawing me about getting a screen protector.
Just buy a screen protector and have that mental peace.
Better safe than sorry
Gorrila baby skin
G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
Yep, got a tiny scratch as well out of seemingly no where.. it's definitely more fragile than my partners iPhone 4 which gets yanked in and out of her handbag daily vs my careful nurturing
certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
Well,that sucks.
Still scratch free here without protector
On milestone and droid 2 global gorila glass I never had a scratch having each one about a year and with no screen protector at all...
Maybe the cover for not having so many finger prints can make gorilla glass less "gorila" on SGS2?
Cheers
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certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
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Dammit, yesterday i went to the beach with the phone, sand may be the reason of the scratch
I already have a screen protector, but i didn't set it because there was no reason to me, now i got one
Yeah, I scratched mine too but I've kind of got used to it. It's a little annoying I guess.
Anyway, suppose it's a bit like shutting the door now the horse has bolted but might as well get a protector. Don't they change the feel of the screen though? I've always thought they might be kind of annoying.
As a user of both sgs and sgs2, I find the Gorilla glass on sgs2 to be far superior in every department
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You folks are aware that no one ever said gorilla glass is hard as a diamond, right?
In fact, no substantial claims about it's hardness were *ever* made. It's supposed to have a better tensile strength and be less breakable, not harder.
In fact, the treatment it gets plus the oleophobic coatings and whatnot might even make it more susceptible to scratching than regular glass.
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily. I made money repairing the hd2 because it couldn't take a bump.
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G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily.
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Shatter or scratch?
There IS a difference, you know.
Hardness and (tensile) strength aren't the same thing.
And they're usually inversely proportional.
Materials that have a high hardness (resistance to scratching) are usually VERY brittle.
Materials that have a high tensile strength (resistance to breaking) are usually VERY scratchable.
Well,everything is destroyable in therm of a bad usage,even this "mighty" glass.The real example is Titanic,the unsinkable ship in my a..
I also have very small scratches, there was nothing in my pocket when it happened!
My SGS was stronger, but the SGSII's screen is sweeter!
I decided to buy a brando screen protector, as far as i know they're washable
The sooner i receive my screen protector the better, im ultra careful not to have anything else in my pocket like keys or coins when then phone is there in case i do get a scratch,so far so good but after spending all that cahs on this phone it's important to get a screen protector.
This is one of the weak points with our phone, "hard"ware wise.
I also got a small scratch from putting it in my pocket without anything else. Compared I never got a protector for my old smart phone (competitor brand and os ) and only a few small scratches in some years, I was a bit disappointed.
Though, that scratch isn't that bad, and now that my protective foil arrived it can be neither seen nor felt.
But: Without the cheap foil the "feeling" was better
Still, I like my new phone
I've just bought a used (UK) S2 on eBay, and am wondering whether I should bother with a screen protector for it. From other posts it seems that there are mixed opinions on the effectiveness of Gorilla glass for preventing scratches (particularly from sand), so I wondered how many people bother with a screen protector?
As per previous replies to the question .
Always as Gorilla Glass can get scratched and proof is in the scratched protector but not the screen .
jje
Gorilla Glass...has got that real nice feel to it...hence no protectors...after 2 months of usages no scratches...just got a coloured frontal screen protector on today though...solely for the visual aspects...rather than protections but nice never the less.
I use protectors as sand will scratch G glass. I will give G glass credit though... It is a hell of a lot more scratch resistant than standard screen coatings.
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I don't. I also don't like how the glass feels. But that's because I love my iPod's screen, just how it feels.
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I don't. I also don't like how the glass feels. But that's because I love my iPod's screen, just how it feels.
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a layer of film never hurts. at least something gets in the way before it scratches the actual glass screen.
Definately add a screen protector!
I use PhantomSkinz
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Lots of people have complained that after using a screen protector the phone is no longer responding to touches very well (this can be fixed with a root app though).
There is no real need at all for the screen to have a protector, it is the toughest glass around and there are plenty of videos on youtube of people taking hunting knifes and other sharp objects to their screen with no visible marks being left. Sure it will shatter if it lands on a sharp point but it is not the sort of glass that scratches easily like other phones, removing the need for a screen protector.
Plus the glass is fairly smudge resistant and very smooth to touch.
I fail to see a need.
3 months w/o a screen protector and there isn't a single scratch on my device.
I had a Nexus One with no case for 17 months, which I predominantly kept in my trouser pocket. Not one single scratch on the glass but had various nicks and dents in the metal frame. Have had my gs2 for about 3 months and already have four big scratches on the screen. So my advice, but a protector.
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W0lfd said:
3 months w/o a screen protector and there isn't a single scratch on my device.
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2 months here, zero scratches.
Start using it without any protector. Trust and experience the good feel of the Gorilla Glass. And by any chance if you see any slightest roughness (rare though) appearing... apply a protector.
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...And by any chance if you see any slightest roughness (rare though) appearing... apply a protector.
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if that happens, u are too late already.
that's why u should at least use a protector, to at least prevent that
3 months no protection but im still paronoid i think i need on so whats the best one on the market
I have the SGP Glas just for those crazy moments when something goes wrong. Already busted a Ultra Crystal screen protector with a bad scratch.
Always use protection. Even if it turns out to be a waste, it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
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3 months no protection but im still paronoid
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You've had a white S2 for 3 months?
I use a screen protector and my screen is responsive and have no probs at all. good idea to use i think
I like the gorilla glass but it does seem to be a fingerprint magnet... At least with a screen protector it doesn't pick up those damn fingerprints...
My opinion is that anything that can put a scratch on gorilla glass will have no trouble cutting through a VERY thin layer of film you have applied on top of the gorilla glass making it's 'protection' void.
However, I'm still too paranoid not to use a protector.... :S
I suggest to use one.. I have no problem with touch sensitivity problem.. Better safe than sorry..
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Well I'm kinda pissed my phone already has a scratch on the screen after 1 month and its annoying the crap out of me. My captivate doesnt have any scratches after a year of use without protecters, does the SGS2 not have gorilla glass? I love everything about this phone except the weak screen and will be frustrated if I have to worry about scratches on my screen. I hate screen protecters die to the feel of them on my finger tips.
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BlakDye said:
Well I'm kinda pissed my phone already has a scratch on the screen after 1 month and its annoying the crap out of me. My captivate doesnt have any scratches after a year of use without protecters, does the SGS2 not have gorilla glass? I love everything about this phone except the weak screen and will be frustrated if I have to worry about scratches on my screen. I hate screen protecters die to the feel of them on my finger tips.
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Hi Black,
in every SPEC list that has been officially published and watching all the youtube vidoes the unit is supposed to sport Gorilla Glass...
Very sorry to hear about your scratch but know that it's wasn't caused by a metal object... It would have to be some sort of STONE or CERAMIC, kitchen countertop, flooring, bathroom tile, that would have scratched your SGS2...
Totally agree with the screen protector though... just very sorry about the scratch... Ouch!
It does have Gorilla Glass... but that dosent guarantee that your screen will never get scratches.
I keep my phone in a separate pocket from keys and everything else so it dosent get scratches.
These phones aren't going to be resistant to scratches no matter what they claim. I've only had my phone for a month and if I did not have a screen protector on I would be in the same boat as you. Cheaper to replace screen protectors than the glass.
Gorilla glass is a bullshiet gimmick anyway. I had a Motor-Atrix and kept that shiet in a lint-free cloth pouch everywhere I went and was meticulous in the amount of care I gave it to ensure it wouldn't have any scratches on it. Well... lo and behold one day I take a look at it, there are scratches all over it from who knows what.
I think gorilla glass is meant to ensure the screen itself doesn't shatter into a million pieces when dropped instead of preventing minute scratches. But as far as scratches go, that's a bunch of bullshiet. Whenever someone gets a new phone they should slap a screen protector on it as soon as possible.
Like the dude before me said: "Cheaper to replace screen protectors than the glass." He speaks the troof.
I don't think you know what gorilla glass is...
Gorilla glass isn't totally scratch-proof, no glass is.
The reason why people like gorilla glass is because it doesn't get too many scratches and is very shatterproof.
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nothing is 100% scratch proof.
If you take a sharp and hard object and scratch the surface of hardened steel, you can create scratch. Gorilla glass is not as hard as some of the hardened steel.
I used my Captivate (Gorilla Glass) for over a year with no screen protector, only the bodyglove rubber case and never had a single scratch on the screen. It even slid off the roof of my car at 25MPH onto the street one morning when I forgot I had set it up there.
I now have the SGS2 and same deal. I have a casemate barely there whose lip comes up and keeps the glass from touching flat surfaces but otherwise no other screen protection and although it is only a month old it still looks like it did when I took it out of the box...after I wipe the fingerprints off of it.
A guy I work with has a DroidX that is over a year old and his looks like it was dragged behind a 4x4 off road at high speeds for an hour after he had it for 6 months.
It all just depends on where and how you use your phone. When in doubt, buy a protector.
Its got gorilla glass alright BUT so did my last phone (samsung Focus) and it scratched much easier then I expected, hence the first thing I did when I got my GS2 was put a screen protector on.. Gorilla glass's scratch resistance is a bit overrated..
wow, i used my cappy for over a year (~15 months) without a screen protector or case and never got a single scratch on it front or back... i don't plan on putting either on my SGS2 either. i guess i'm just lucky in that regard.
I had exactly the same mind set but my sgs2 scratched.
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Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, but not scratch proof.
From my experience if you put the screen with a key ring all the time it will still get scratch.
Gorilla glass is mostly shatter proof then scratch proof. the difference is if you drop the phone you may get a scratch but most likely not shatter the glass.
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I don't know, I used my Captivate for about a year, and I assumed it would be indestructable with the Gorilla Glass and the Body Glove Case. Bad news, some parts from the top got chipped off, either from throwing the phone against the wall and maybe also the several times I dropped it in a parking lot and down a few steps. But through all of this, the screen remains scratch free, except with one really small scratch that only appears in a certain angle with a lot of light. Just wish the rest of the phone was as indestructable as the Gorilla Glass tbh...
I survived over a year with a naked Captivate with no scratches. My wife on the other hand scratched the back almost immediately, and did quite a number on the screen. She just throws hers into her purse, I have a dedicated, empty, phone pocket, and always face the glass in, not out.
The gorilla glass isn't perfect, but its better than others out there.
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It has gorilla glass... I use it pretty rougg with keys and coub still no scratches so far..
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Go to Owen's Corning and read what they say about Gorilla Glass. It is much harder than generic glass, but it's still glass, and there are lots of things you encounter in every day life that are harder.
As others have stated, it's stronger but not impervious. Individual experience will vary. It's not that you dropped it that matters, it's how it landed, and that's going to be different *every* time a phone gets dropped. Some landings will be worse than others. Doesn't mean the glass isn't as good, only that you had a less "lucky" outcome...
Has anyone else found that when using pencils and pens on the screen that they scratch the hell out of their screens. And it is now pssing me off knowing i have really scratched it beauces of doing something they said you can do. Especially since the screen is meant to be scratch resistant.
Yea it's actually an anti shatter film. not so much a scratch resistant layer. I just put a screen protector on top of mine before I started testing out the handwriting thing. once it scratches I just replace it. gotta do some research before doing some of the sketchy stuff. for example, I have yet to try out the phones water proofing. I know it can be done but should I do it as a test? ehh ill probably just take their word for it. lol
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SAMVREMIX said:
Has anyone else found that when using pencils and pens on the screen that they scratch the hell out of their screens. And it is now pssing me off knowing i have really scratched it beauces of doing something they said you can do. Especially since the screen is meant to be scratch resistant.
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Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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I put a gearmaxxx ultra clear screen protector on D1, scratched on day 3 I think, trying to write on the device with a pencil.
Then I got an anti glare no brand screen protector, really good, scratched 5 days ago trying if pencils or metal objects could write under water, as several sites report that as working. Of course it didn't work, but then I obviously scratched the screen protector again.
By then the Chinese glas.t knock off had arrived, so I put that on. Some days later I impressed my dad and my daughter with a pen on it, and she began drawing with the Sketch app.
Wanna know how it ended?
Even the tempered glass got scratched.
Bottom line is, everything get scratched sooner or later.
If you can live with few scratches on your screen and change screen protector every now and then, do as you please, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not writing on the screen with anything besides my fingers anymore, I'm sick of changing screen protectors, and the original anti shatter film on the device is a pain in the arse to remove if you scratch that.
And if you manage to remove that too, you'll most definitely lose your warranty (other than the Sony logo).
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fastest83 said:
I put a gearmaxxx ultra clear screen protector on D1, scratched on day 3 I think, trying to write on the device with a pencil.
Then I got an anti glare no brand screen protector, really good, scratched 5 days ago trying if pencils or metal objects could write under water, as several sites report that as working. Of course it didn't work, but then I obviously scratched the screen protector again.
By then the Chinese glas.t knock off had arrived, so I put that on. Some days later I impressed my dad and my daughter with a pen on it, and she began drawing with the Sketch app.
Wanna know how it ended?
Even the tempered glass got scratched.
Bottom line is, everything get scratched sooner or later.
If you can live with few scratches on your screen and change screen protector every now and then, do as you please, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not writing on the screen with anything besides my fingers anymore, I'm sick of changing screen protectors, and the original anti shatter film on the device is a pain in the arse to remove if you scratch that.
And if you manage to remove that too, you'll most definitely lose your warranty (other than the Sony logo).
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Well you could try to find a softer stylus like one on the note 3 though.. or maybe that cp12 embedded stylus could be the perfect solution.. Or like how the zu was advertised, write on the paper on top of the z ultra.. It is meant for carbon copy device..
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I have been using a pencil every so often and not had any issues with the cheep screen protector i have on mine. How hard are you pressing?
hansip87 said:
Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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I am almost certain that the shatterproof protector they put on their phones only keeps the shards of the broken glass in, so you don't cut yourself or anything. Shatterproof protectors don't actually stop the phone from breaking, whatever glass Sony is using just must be really tough.
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I am almost certain that the shatterproof protector they put on their phones only keeps the shards of the broken glass in, so you don't cut yourself or anything. Shatterproof protectors don't actually stop the phone from breaking, whatever glass Sony is using just must be really tough.
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With some plastic on top I'm sure there is some resistance to shatter because it absorbs some of the shock rather than directly to the glass itself..
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hansip87 said:
With some plastic on top I'm sure there is some resistance to shatter because it absorbs some of the shock rather than directly to the glass itself..
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Possibly yes but a shatterproof sheet itself does not stop the glass to break, despite the misleading name. It merely keeps the shards in when it does break. I'm sure the Z1's sturdiness is more from Sony's strong glass and frame of the phone than the sheet on they put on the screen
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Oh god better find a screen protector fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571pu66vEBc
That's just really sad...
It makes sense because it's more shatter resistant but more soft. Screen protector it is...
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I just ordered some screen protectors. I planned on going naked but screw that! I'm very disappointed to see how easily it scratches. I swore I read something that GG said the scratch resistance was the same as GG 4. REALLY messed up!
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Lol what a dumb comment
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Pointro said:
What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
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Nexus 6P is nowhere near as flimsy as he made it appear - a lot of people were very doubtful.
Also, with this one, how was the IMEI sticker removed already yet all the plastic was still on the phone? You even saw the residue where the sticker was!
(and no, don't use the "he put all the plastic back on the phone" excuse. No way would you get it back on that perfect).
Yeah, I'm skeptical, but that's my own opinion. I also don't put a lot of faith into drop tests, as each case is different. I've also been one to take very good care of my phones, and don't generally use screen protectors. No real scratches either!
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Brava27 said:
Lol what a dumb comment
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Oh boo hoo - someone doesn't agree with your opinion. Not like I give a damn.
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Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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And the 6P did not bend? My bent after some weeks of normal use
Looks like i will have to use a full body skin.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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The biggest cause of scratches is not keys or scissors or razor blades.
It's the simple elements of our earth that do the damage, namely Sand and Grit.
It only takes a particle of sand or grit to come into contact with the screen, add the element of friction and that causes the vast majority of all scratches.
No matter how this is spun, poorer scratch resistance is not good especially considering this is a device designed to have constant friction on its surface with the stylus.
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This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Yeah, I believe it was the first time that they have released an official screen protector. So they already know.
Zolares said:
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
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Flexibility (shatter resistance) and hardness (scratch resistance) are mutually exclusive. Maybe some kind of formulation of glass or a different material at some point will help, but honestly I don't think a solution to both of these issues at the same time will come any time soon.
I have never shattered a phone screen and I use minimal cases to protect against scratching. I have had a bad drop or two over the years, but the phone has always survived. I'd take scratch resistance any day of the week.
Film protectors suck ass. They offer no oleophobic properties, gunk up, and feel like **** compared to glass. I will never use of these. I even dislike glass protectors, because if you get a single spec of dirt under them during application or misalign it, might as well throw it in the trash if you have OCD because you're never going to get over it. Plus you add another layer between you and the pixels which is never good for image quality sake. Samsung did a great job with this display and the glass in front of it (e.g. lowest reflectance ever). Putting some cheap ass protector over it, even glass, will be detrimental. Also, good luck finding a decent glass protector that works with the curves. Samsung is probably going to be the absolute best option, so I would skip everything else and just buy that and pray you get the install perfect because knowing Samsung it won't be cheap.
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Where did you order them from, Samsung's own site? I did a search but can't get to an actual product page for it.
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mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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EXACTLY. If you shove this in your front pocket with keys and the rest or in a purse with a bunch of crap then I don't feel sorry. I've never scratched a screen, shattered a screen or any of the crap I see. Maybe I'm too AR to let this happen. IDK.
I really hate screen protectors! Although I haven't tried tempered type. To me they degrade viewing . Really irks me that you pay a premium to get a great screen that easily scratches and takes away from the experience .
I'm still gonna try it out, but may be my last samsung if that becomes the new norm.
Having owned the Note 1, Note 2, Galaxy S4 (terrible), I moved to Nexus/Apple and did not want to buy Samsung ever again. I went against myself and pre-ordered the Note 7 thinking maybe this would be a perfect phone for an old man. This video made me cancel the pre-order, I will wait for the next Nexus or iPhone.