[Q] Defective AMOLED Black Spots; How many is too many? - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

After receiving my SGS3, I was extremely satisfied with the overall look and feel of the device. One of the main selling points (for me at least) was the deep-black color that a Super AMOLED screen had to offer. In the process of rooting the phone, I discovered several of the infamous black spots on my screen, against the dark black Downloader screen. I estimate I have about 10-15 of these, each of which are about 2x2 pixels in size, with the exception of one pattern that looks like this. ---> -__- (not kidding, lol) I've been on the fence about trying to get a replacement. So my question to you all is; How many black spots is too many? Or do they even bother you enough to do anything about them?

13.

lots is usual
hi. i discovered something like 10 black spots on my s3 in total dark environment with dead pixel testing software while screen was total black. that's the only case you can see them. i checked my wife's s3 right after and had also black spots under same conditions.
the day after i checked my brother's s3 - same.
all of them have a few - i doubt if there is any display without. but why bother? do you ever have blank screen in black room? i found out with dead pixel testing, but i can’t trace them in any other case. Enjoy your phone and omit the insignificant - invincible - dots/patterns. i got over it after reading that is common and seeing the other two s3s. seeing your question i smiled understanding your worries of defective product it's common so omit it.

I don't like that my phone has but EVERY AMOLED screens have them. Trying to get it replaced won't do anything. My PSVita has them, my GS2, GS3 :/

It seems to be a fact of life with current amoled screens, and is really not noticeable unless you are looking for it. If you're really concerned you're probably better off with slcd like the one x or evo lte.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app

I would give returning it a shot if it annoys you, unfortunately the phone is in such high demand and short supply you may have to wait a little. I had the same issue with my Samsung laptop. I called customer service and they told me to return it to the store I bought it for an exchange. I did and they exchanged it for one that looks great.

Related

Blotches on all black screen?

So being that im a tv whore (own a krp kuro) i was playing some pioneer demo material on my gs2. The demo has a ton of awesome dark scenes that really show off how black these amoled displays can get.
There was one part where there was just a black screen for about 10 seconds. Since i was in a dark room my eyes adjusted and noticed all these Blotches all over the black screen. Is this normal? I see it on a 100% black background that i created as well. Any one else have this issue? It kinda dumb i know since i only see this in a dark room with a black screen but its bugging me now. I would be devastated if my kuro looked like that in a dark scene so my phone isnt any different.
Im on a bravia engine Rom with screen mode on movie.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using XDA App
Normal, and might have come up in searches for "screen." People have complained here, asking people to go in closets and perform rituals to see if spots and lines appear. I will have your TV now. Thank you.
Righto. So I just took a picture of all black, then let my eyes adjust to the screen in the dar.... AND HOLY MOTHER OF MAY I? YES YOU CAN, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MY SCREEN?!
Are all screens like this? Is there something that causes this? Because I honestly don't remember ever seeing these blotches on my screen, and i even looked once before.
Now it's so bad it looks like my phone has some venireal disease or skin-touchscreen cancer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
Seems like people are getting into a very humorous mood with the holidays, and it's spilling over to even serious threads.
What you describe is a defect of the screen. When the phone first came out, and for the first few weeks, there were a number of people who reported problems with the screen. The way to test the screen that was suggested at that time is exactly what you did with the black screen in a darkened room. I tried that test, and my phone has a completely black screen, with no light patches.
For some reason, there havn't been many reports at all since the first few weeks. You are only the second person I've seen to mention it, I think, since then.
The people that had the bad screens just exchanged their phones until they got a good one. Of course, at that time everyone was still within the 30 day period.
I was bein serious creep. I might have been comical in reply, but i genuinely want to know why my screen looks like crap now.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
lol. Actually I was calling brent8577 out for humor more than you. Anyway, it's a holiday and we all have the fun loving spirit.
Thanks for the replies. I see if i can find one with out blotches at best buy
Sent from my SGH-I777 using XDA App
I have a blotchy screen.don't care too much to replace it. I should check my g/f's...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
Actually, I'm quite certain this isn't a defect. In fact, it's just something that samsung says comes along with the Amoled technology, if you do a thorough search in google, you'll find multiple articles stating this. Do I think that since samsung screwed up on all these screens they are just saying that? Absolutely. But I also think that anyone who says they don't have it at all just maybe doesn't have it as bad. When I had the T989, it was so visible it annoyed the **** outta me, and it wasn't just splotches, but it was lines and stuff too. Now, I'm on my 2nd i777, and the first one had the splotches, not too bad though, and the current one I have is even less, but it is there, although you really have to stare and allow your eyes to adjust to see it. I think the next generation of amoled displays should have this little kink worked out, but if you look on the Razr forums, the t989 forum, and the skyrocket forum, they all have it as well. Its an all around AMOLED issue, and i dont think any displays with a Super AMOLED+ display are without it.
I'm the one who said my phone has a completely dark screen with no light patches. Well, that was a couple of months ago that I tested it, and I decided to do another test today. My house has a room with no window, so it is easy to get a completely darkened room.
When you put a black image on the screen in a dark room, the screen is not completely black. If you set the screen timeout to 30 minutes, and let your eyes completely adjust to the dark, the screen actually looks rather light, a sort of greyish. But the shade of grey and amount of light intensity theoretically should be uniform across the screen.
My screen is actually pretty uniform, but there is a slight gradation to darker arount the edges, a little more pronounced toward the top and bottom than on the sides. There is one very tiny area at the very top of the screen right on the edge directly below the AT&T logo, that is significantly darker than the rest of the screen. The difference in light intensity is not very much, but it is noticable.
The gradation of light intensity on this screen is so slight that it would be impossible to detect any difference in light intensity in normal screen use. People who have reported this problem are the ones whose screen is so variable, that they can see the difference during normal screen use. And if you would test one of those screens in a dark room, I'm told you would see a very marked difference in the light intensity.
So I say that if a screen is such that you can tell the difference when using the screen under normal conditions, then it is defective. But what Samsung or AT&T will say and do about it, I don't know. I havn't seen any reports from anyone that has tried to exchange their phone for that reason.
I tested screen out last night too and saw a few darker splotches around the bottom and side. Then my ocd kicked in. I was considering exchanging the phone today, but after reading this thread decided against it. Thank you all for the info
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
I'm not really concerned if my screen suffers from this but I have a question:
If it matters, at what brightness is your screen set to when you do this?
Sent from my SGH-I777 using XDA App
I had mine set to maximum brightness.
My screen also has the blotchiness but honestly i cant think of one time where this was a problem. you just dont notice it ever in day to day use and if you have to get in a dark room with an all black screen to notice it then i dont care.
I didn't want to start a new thread so I'll bump this one...
Enzopreme said:
Actually, I'm quite certain this isn't a defect. In fact, it's just something that samsung says comes along with the Amoled technology, if you do a thorough search in google, you'll find multiple articles stating this. Do I think that since samsung screwed up on all these screens they are just saying that? Absolutely. But I also think that anyone who says they don't have it at all just maybe doesn't have it as bad. When I had the T989, it was so visible it annoyed the **** outta me, and it wasn't just splotches, but it was lines and stuff too. Now, I'm on my 2nd i777, and the first one had the splotches, not too bad though, and the current one I have is even less, but it is there, although you really have to stare and allow your eyes to adjust to see it. I think the next generation of amoled displays should have this little kink worked out, but if you look on the Razr forums, the t989 forum, and the skyrocket forum, they all have it as well. Its an all around AMOLED issue, and i dont think any displays with a Super AMOLED+ display are without it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I've noticed lines and stuff when I go into the market/google play (the grey shows multiple verticle and horizontal lines, but I have to look a little hard. Not too big a deal.) However, I tried using auto brightness which defaults much lower than I had it set to manually and the screen shows tons of lines everywhere. For instance, I use ryude's unoriginal rom, and with the stock messenger (bright white) I get a ton of lines. I was wondering how many people use auto brightness and if anybody else has this issue. I'm out of the 30 day replacement warranty, but I have an upgrade coming up soon so I'm not super worried about it. But still...
Enzopreme said:
Actually, I'm quite certain this isn't a defect. In fact, it's just something that samsung says comes along with the Amoled technology, if you do a thorough search in google, you'll find multiple articles stating this. Do I think that since samsung screwed up on all these screens they are just saying that? Absolutely. But I also think that anyone who says they don't have it at all just maybe doesn't have it as bad. When I had the T989, it was so visible it annoyed the **** outta me, and it wasn't just splotches, but it was lines and stuff too. Now, I'm on my 2nd i777, and the first one had the splotches, not too bad though, and the current one I have is even less, but it is there, although you really have to stare and allow your eyes to adjust to see it. I think the next generation of amoled displays should have this little kink worked out, but if you look on the Razr forums, the t989 forum, and the skyrocket forum, they all have it as well. Its an all around AMOLED issue, and i dont think any displays with a Super AMOLED+ display are without it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^^^^^^^
This. I am on my fourth phone and all of the screens have been jacked up with splotches. Some worse than others.I'm going with a super amoled+ thing and less of a defect. Don't get me wrong, it drives my ocd nuts knowing that its there, I just try to avoid situations where you can see the splotches.... especially if I'm trying to show the phone off lol
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

[Q] EVO LTE Screen Flex/LCD Ripple Issues?

Unfortunately my OCD kicked in and I returned my first EVO LTE as it had peace of dust under the screen and slight light leakage at the bottom. Other than that my screen never had any flex or ripple issues and I am regretting that I took it in for an exchange!! My 1st exchange unit had a pixel that was stuck in the on position and had seriously bad LCD ripple effect. Took that back to a different Best Buy and the second exchange also has this same LCD ripple effect. It is most noticeable on black screens if you lightly press around the sides like you are scrolling up and down a web page. It can also be scene on the home screen. There are several videos of a One X having this issue. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DmLNSiNT24
My question is, how many people have this issue? I am crossing my finger and hoping I can get a unit again that doesn't as I truely am pleased with the other aspects of this phone and can deal with the other small little hickups of a new product launch.
I have none of this.
my OG Evo had this after I replaced the digitizer. i assumed i did something wrong since the one before it did not. no issues on my lte
Limited sample of responses so far, but seems to be looking more positive than I expected it to be!
Maybe I have a better chance of my next replacement not having this issue than I thought! I hope it was just a bad batch for this area and the next shipment will be better!
Had same ripple issues
Hi..well I got my evo lte on a pre order. I ve had all the evos thru the last couple years and the LTE is a very good phone. I noticed the exact same thing,when I would gently push or tap on the screen it would have clothes of light that we're very bad,and on black screens that was even worse. I called sprint and they told me to go to a store to exchange it. I went to the store and the manager was awesome we sat down and he brought out 5 brand new EVO LTE s for us to try. At his amazement they all were as bad if not worse then mine on the ripple effect. I have a galaxy 2 touch and when we pushed on that screen no matter how hard it showed no signs of light bleeding or rippling at all. He didn't know what to tell me but did they say the screen on the htc should not do that at all and it might be a bad batch. To me it seemd the glass on the LCD screen didn't bond well with the glue they used,and when you pushed or tapped it would go down into the LCD screen. I know when you push directly on a LCD tv,computer screen it will give you the same similar effect. I called sprint and told them I was returning the phone and the lady in the return department told me she has had a few calls about people wanting to return the phone because of this issue. I really like the LTE,but couldn't put up with the screen issues. I am going to wait till the galaxy 3 comes out and also by then check out the EVO lte again to see if the problem has been fixed.
Sigh first off mine does this but I have to apply more force then is needed for the phone to register the touch. Second off WHY are you pushing with any kind of pressure to even do that? Now if you're just touching the LCD and it is doing this I understand. Also even in the vid it looks like more force is being applied as needed but not as much as I have to apply? That being said if you think sgsiii will be better well it will cause it doesn't use a LCD lolol.
Edit I think this is to have gorilla glass 2 which is thinner so chances of this happening are going to be common I'd assum of you push down on the screens lol.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
ckoadiyn said:
Sigh first off mine does this but I have to apply more force then is needed for the phone to register the touch. Second off WHY are you pushing with any kind of pressure to even do that? Now if you're just touching the LCD and it is doing this I understand. Also even in the vid it looks like more force is being applied as needed but not as much as I have to apply? That being said if you think sgsiii will be better well it will cause it doesn't use a LCD lolol.
Edit I think this is to have gorilla glass 2 which is thinner so chances of this happening are going to be common I'd assum of you push down on the screens lol.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From my experience I am not applying any more pressure than I would use normally. That is the only reason I noticed it. I was typing in my numerical pass code on a black screen and saw the ripples. I then did further investigation. The video might not be the best reproduction of how you get the problem under normal use, but it does show what the problem looks like. My first phone I actually used more pressure on trying to figure out what the dust spot was and never had this issue occur so had no clue what I would run into with an exchange. This is a production issue on some LTE's and One X's. The below comment was posted in an article on the One X in April. I just think some phones are much more noticeable than others and who knows what this issue will turn into over the life of the phone.
Source: TechnoBuffalo
"Three separate models provided by HTC, and one by network Three, produced the issue, CNET UK said, meaning it may potentially be widespread. However, Daniel Hundt, creative director at One & Co., HTC’s design consultancy, said the company would never “let that ship.” Hundt added, “maybe this is not a shipping build,” referring to a unit CNET UK writer Natasha Lomas demonstrated the issue with.
TechnoBuffalo’s own Jon Rettinger and Todd Hasleton didn’t notice the issue when reviewing the One X, and chances are good the average user won’t either. The device really is one of the most beautiful phones out there. It also provided the best Android experience we’ve had yet, so this “screen flex flaw” issue shouldn’t deter folks from picking the device up. Still, we reached out to HTC for comment, and will update as soon as we hear back"
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/htc/htc-one-x-may-be-plagued-by-minor-screen-flex-flaw-issue/
This is not something that will push me to an S3 though!
Ok well then that's a diff story and I'm wondering if it due to the glue not curing by the time it got to you... Or a lack of glue. Since the glue has apparently been a problem this time around for HTC lol. And glad to know you won't defect to the sgsiii. The one thing I don't understand is why Samsung uses the gn as a beta for their sgs line. Same screen on gn and sgsiii but its to be slightly better.(only cause they used the gn as a test)
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
ckoadiyn said:
Ok well then that's a diff story and I'm wondering if it due to the glue not curing by the time it got to you... Or a lack of glue. Since the glue has apparently been a problem this time around for HTC lol. And glad to know you won't defect to the sgsiii. The one thing I don't understand is why Samsung uses the gn as a beta for their sgs line. Same screen on gn and sgsiii but its to be slightly better.(only cause they used the gn as a test)
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, glue on this current phone has the screen slowly getting white. Started out kind of yellow and now most of it is white with the bottom section still a little yellow. Going to give it till Friday to see if anything improves and if not I will test out the new shipment at Best Buy and try my hand at another exchange.
Update:
Went back to Best Buy and we opened up and looked at 5 different phones and EVERY single one of them had this issue. Some worse than others, but it was still apparent.
Not giving up though, trying a different store today to see how that works. I know my very first phone did NOT have this issue, just had a small speck of dust and slight light leakage..... I SOOO wish I had that phone back! Should have never returned it.
Update on my OCD - LCD Flex Issue:
5 Different Best Buys in two different states. Every phone I have tested had this issue to some extent (18 different phones tested). Some worse than others. I now believe my original phone had the issue, but was just less noticeable. Also, the screens normally do start out with more of a yellow tint from the glue. This mostly goes away after a few days of high brightness use, but sometimes a slight yellow band at the bottom remains. I think HTC doubled up the glue to help with the light leakage issues they are known for in the past.
Current phone has white balance closer to a pure white than a light yellow. (no yellow band at bottom either. This screen still has the flex issue but needs medium/medium heavy pressure to see on a black screen. I should never have to press that hard on anything to ever notice it. I am almost perfectly happy now, only bad thing is it does have one stuck pixel at the top of the screen (can't be seen on Pink, Red, Blue or Black, but is apparent on Yellow, Light Blue, Green, White and Gray). Would have never noticed it without the dead pixel test. I would rather have that than have it sensitive to the flex issue and any yellow tint to my white screen.
So, if you have not noticed the flex issue, then DO NOT look for it or try to reproduce it. You will most likely find it. Not a show stopper and should not be reproduced under normal use (Except for the few bad eggs that are really sensitive).

Yellow tint due to (pebble blue) cover coating?

A few days ago me and my girlfriend both bought a Pebble Blue S3. Unfortunately mine has a yellow tint to the screen, as a lot of other users seem to have too looking at the various threads about this issue. This is clearly visible when displaying white, but also the greys are affected. The whites appear to be more yellow when brightness is at its lowest. The whites are less yellow at maximum brightness. In direct comparison to the S3 of my girlfriend all this is easily noticible. In addition, in direct comparison between both phones the front cover of my S3 looks darker than hers. So I was wondering: could it be that this yellow tint which is noticible and which is already reported by lots of people, is due to some kind of coating of the front cover? So in fact it isn't due the AMOLED screen itself, but due to the tint of the cover, which thus functions like some kind of filter?
I hope I have some time this week to return to the shop, and see if I can exchange my phone for another one...
ZunRob said:
A few days ago me and my girlfriend both bought a Pebble Blue S3. Unfortunately mine has a yellow tint to the screen, as a lot of other users seem to have too looking at the various threads about this issue. This is clearly visible when displaying white, but also the greys are affected. The whites appear to be more yellow when brightness is at its lowest. The whites are less yellow at maximum brightness. In direct comparison to the S3 of my girlfriend all this is easily noticible. In addition, in direct comparison between both phones the front cover of my S3 looks darker than hers. So I was wondering: could it be that this yellow tint which is noticible and which is already reported by lots of people, is due to some kind of coating of the front cover? So in fact it isn't due the AMOLED screen itself, but due to the tint of the cover, which thus functions like some kind of filter?
I hope I have some time this week to return to the shop, and see if I can exchange my phone for another one...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you check the batch/date/country of your phone and let us know? It might be the new batch and can be the glass glue which is still not fully dried. I remember my iphone 4 32gb had this issue and i waited a week or 2 and it disappeared. Due to high demand the phones are shipped out much quicker and may take sometime for things like these to dry out.
sak500 said:
Can you check the batch/date/country of your phone and let us know? It might be the new batch and can be the glass glue which is still not fully dried. I remember my iphone 4 32gb had this issue and i waited a week or 2 and it disappeared. Due to high demand the phones are shipped out much quicker and may take sometime for things like these to dry out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, if you tell me where I can find this information?
Yesterday evening I've been to another shop, and I've seen two other Pebble Blue devices. Both the front covers were lighter blue than mine SGS3, and the screens were more white as well...
It's on the back after you remove the battery. Also there is date/country on battery.
ZunRob said:
A few days ago me and my girlfriend both bought a Pebble Blue S3. Unfortunately mine has a yellow tint to the screen, as a lot of other users seem to have too looking at the various threads about this issue. This is clearly visible when displaying white, but also the greys are affected. The whites appear to be more yellow when brightness is at its lowest. The whites are less yellow at maximum brightness. In direct comparison to the S3 of my girlfriend all this is easily noticible. In addition, in direct comparison between both phones the front cover of my S3 looks darker than hers. So I was wondering: could it be that this yellow tint which is noticible and which is already reported by lots of people, is due to some kind of coating of the front cover? So in fact it isn't due the AMOLED screen itself, but due to the tint of the cover, which thus functions like some kind of filter?
I hope I have some time this week to return to the shop, and see if I can exchange my phone for another one...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here and also Pebble Blue model...and it sucks! It literally ruins my day when you realize you shed 660 euro for...this crap of a display! Already installed Screed Adjuster from the Market (hate the new "Play store" name!!) but it's of little consolation. I think Samsung SCREWED UP big time this time and i'm toying with an idea of changing the model and, for that matter, getting out of Samsung followers as i've bee all these years. It's a shame 'cause I've been on all Galaxies ever and now they let me down.
Reeby said:
Same here and also Pebble Blue model...and it sucks! It literally ruins my day when you realize you shed 660 euro for...this crap of a display! Already installed Screed Adjuster from the Market (hate the new "Play store" name!!) but it's of little consolation. I think Samsung SCREWED UP big time this time and i'm toying with an idea of changing the model and, for that matter, getting out of Samsung followers as i've bee all these years. It's a shame 'cause I've been on all Galaxies ever and now they let me down.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I went back to the store and showed the problem. They agreed on me, and said it looked like someone threw coffee over it. They gave me a new phone without further discussion. The new one has a nice white screen.
Unfortunately this one has another issue; when I push the capacitive back button (and the phone is in silent/vibrating mode) I can hear a noise/static hiss coming from the speaker, which dissappears after 4 - 5 seconds...
However, the screen is way better, and looks rather nice. I suggest you go back as well and ask for a replacement.

Does anyone have a PERFECT One?

I've done hours of research on multiple forums. Most of the issues seem to center around gaps around the screen and dead pixels. I want to believe that the reason I am seeing that almost nobody has a greatly built phone, without any problems, is because everyone is posting and complaining in the "build quality issue" threads.
I bought the S4 on launch day and loved it. Albeit the squeaky/creeking back of the phone, and the "cheap" feel. However, I did break the screen and will be getting a full refund from squaretade (lovely company, wasn't expecting that.)
I had the HTC One X before my S4 and absolutely loved it. I'd really love to pick up a 64gb Black One instead of going back to the S4, but with all of these complaints I'm not sure if I should. I'm pretty certain that I could inspect the phone in the AT&T or Best Buy store before purchasing it, but I don't want to come off as a **** and make them open five phones to find one that is perfect. I will be purchasing it off contract, at around $700, so I cant seem to justify buying one if it isn't perfect. I'm quite OCD and I just wouldn't be okay with that.
So my question is this: Does anyone actually have a perfect One? And if so, what color-size-and purchase date?
Thank you for your time
im about to be on my fifth HTC One and havent gotten a "perfect" one yet .... im pretty aware of how to put the device through a detailed test to check out its battery, screen for dead pixels, speaker sound issues, gaps, vibrate motor, camera lens failure and rattling, squeaks and creaks on the device dude to flex, scratches. the quality control on the HTC One is pretty despicable ... so upset I traded away my Apple iPhone 5
I think mind is about as perfect as they come. Silver 32gb and I got it a few weeks ago
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
By as perfect as the come, what is wrong?
I think I can fall into this catagory...ive had my phone since 5/1 and ive tried my best to find some of these issues that ive read about....
The lines are just perfect...no gaps and no meet points are uneven. Ive also used the dead pixel finder apps and nothing there either...from any viewing angle.
I believe most of the issues ive read about tend to lean towards the international models...but ive seen them on this forum also. At the end of the day "most" units are probably near perfect...but there will always be a few that aren't.
Purchased: 5/1/2013
Silver
32GB
I cannot find any flaws in mine. Bought a couple of weeks ago at the AT&T store straight - first phone out of the box. No gaps, no dead pixels. 32gb black edition. Loving it!
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Not a single complaint
I have the silver 64G version and I've had none of the issues about which people have been complaining. No dead pixels, no fast-draining battery (I only have to charge every other overnight and I can get three full days with Power Saver enabled, unless I watch a TV show or movie, Navigate for a while, or have the screen on for an extended period for any other reason), no backlight bleeding through any screen "gaps", no camera issues, no lagginess, etc.. Everything works, looks, and fits exactly right. It's the first of four Android phones I've owned that I don't feel I have to root or overclock, and it works perfectly with stock everything.
I see that there are some people with some legitimate issues with various aspects of their Ones, and I understand their frustrations. A dead pixel is a dead pixel and there's no getting around that. But I also see a number of very vocal people who seem to be looking for problems where there are none. If you* see a slightly brighter shade of backlight at the very top of the screen where the glass meets the aluminum when you hold your phone at an extreme angle and squeeze the sides really hard, that's not a manufacturing defect -- that's you doing your job as an RM for some competitor, being a nitpicking primadona, or just a troll.
* of course, "you" is not you specifically, OP, but the generic "somebody"
xsaqzw said:
I've done hours of research on multiple forums. Most of the issues seem to center around gaps around the screen and dead pixels. I want to believe that the reason I am seeing that almost nobody has a greatly built phone, without any problems, is because everyone is posting and complaining in the "build quality issue" threads.
I bought the S4 on launch day and loved it. Albeit the squeaky/creeking back of the phone, and the "cheap" feel. However, I did break the screen and will be getting a full refund from squaretade (lovely company, wasn't expecting that.)
I had the HTC One X before my S4 and absolutely loved it. I'd really love to pick up a 64gb Black One instead of going back to the S4, but with all of these complaints I'm not sure if I should. I'm pretty certain that I could inspect the phone in the AT&T or Best Buy store before purchasing it, but I don't want to come off as a **** and make them open five phones to find one that is perfect. I will be purchasing it off contract, at around $700, so I cant seem to justify buying one if it isn't perfect. I'm quite OCD and I just wouldn't be okay with that.
So my question is this: Does anyone actually have a perfect One? And if so, what color-size-and purchase date?
Thank you for your time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup, i have one.Silver 32gb
Got it on release day, no gaps, glass is flush, no dead pixels, and my boss has the phone too, black 32 gb, he bought his after playing with mine, hes on Tmo.His black is perfect also
Nothing is wrong but some people might nitpick. I've noticed nothing
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Mine was purchased straight from HTC and its great. It's just as good as my wife's iPhone or my friends GS4. I don't see any issues with it at all.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Thank you for all of the positive feedback everyone!!! I'm still going to make sure the at&t rep will let me take a good look over it, but I think I've made my decision.
Side note:; Are there any de-sense roms yet? Not that I don't like sense.. I loved it on my One X
xsaqzw said:
Thank you for all of the positive feedback everyone!!! I'm still going to make sure the at&t rep will let me take a good look over it, but I think I've made my decision.
Side note:; Are there any de-sense roms yet? Not that I don't like sense.. I loved it on my One X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google is your friend. Or since you're already on XDA you might as well check out the Original Android development section.
Oh, and same goes for me. My One appears to be FINE to me. No dead pixels, no body issues, etc. I recently cracked the LCD so I sent it in to HTC for repair and hopefully they don't mess anything up to take away from that 'perfection'.
I have some very small issues with mine if I was nitpicking, like the slightest of unevenness between the screen/speaker grills. Also a small gap in the top left corner (extremely small). But don't affect usage in any way and I can only tell if I closely examine. My previous one had dead pixels which annoyed me - so I exchanged it. But nothing worth exchanging here, IMO.
badams1 said:
I think I can fall into this catagory...ive had my phone since 5/1 and ive tried my best to find some of these issues that ive read about....
The lines are just perfect...no gaps and no meet points are uneven. Ive also used the dead pixel finder apps and nothing there either...from any viewing angle.
I believe most of the issues ive read about tend to lean towards the international models...but ive seen them on this forum also. At the end of the day "most" units are probably near perfect...but there will always be a few that aren't.
Purchased: 5/1/2013
Silver
32GB
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm with you and have a 32gb silver with zero issues. My g/f has a 64GB silver with no issues either.
No issues here
No dead pixels, battery lasts the day or more depending on usage, no fit issues that I can see, no random reboots or anything. Really like the device. :good:
Cosmetically, my phone is flawless no gaps lifts or anything. Screen is perfect no dead/stuck pixels and couldn't be happier with it. I know some have knocked the durability of the one but I've been caseless for 2 weeks and not even a single grain of chipping on the black finish.
I have a perfect one
I'm not that happy with the build quality on mine as I expected more from "ZeroGap and Unibody". I come from Galaxy Note N7000, and I was really expecting Apple quality.
Mine is not that bad as some photo's of others complaining, but my upper speaker grill is lower than the screen, so when I swipe from the top, I can feel the sharp edge of the screen. The bottom speaker grill is on the same level as the screen so no bumps there.
Next, there's a thin black plastic that wraps around the screen. On the left upper corner, this black plastic is partially stuck inside and partially sticking out more than the other sides. It was annoying me until I wrapped around a case that covers them. I had a Nokia 920 which also has this kind of black thin plastic, and the N920 had a perfect black strip around the screen. Nokia can do it, why can't HTC do it?
Going to the camera (major deciding factor for me), sometimes the photo looks really blurry on 1/3 of the left and right (landscape mode) while it's perfectly sharp in the center. This is because optical image stabilization over-reacts and blurs the image. This doesn't happen all the time, but it happens enough times that it bothers me. Also when taking pictures of the blue sky and look on a computer, the pixels are garbage and artificial looking. Low light pictures and macro pictures are pretty good.
I have a 32GB silver AT&T HTC One, and Android Revolution HD 10.2.
Mine is perfect, but then again I don't go looking for reasons to complain...
Went to Costco with my GF, we looked at 3 HTC ones and chose the best of the 3.
Ours don't have gaps, glass is pretty flush and no dead pixels. I think we got lucky.

Yellow tint / red and blue shifts / dead pixels - AWFUL display QA

So I'm at my sixth S9+ right now... yes, the sixth. I have never believed that such a small device can drive me so crazy. The funny thing is that I haven't seen anyone talking about the issues that I have been facing. So I might be crazy after all.
Ever since the original Samsung Galaxy S I9000 released I've been using Samsung phones with AMOLED screens. The I9000 was followed by an S4. After that I bought myself an S7 Edge. Up to this point I've always been super happy with my devices. Most of all I enjoyed the displays. I swore on AMOLED and would never look back and use an IPS.
AMOLED has always had two donwsides for me, though - low brigthness and warmer whites compared to an IPS. Over the years I learned to live with both of those. If I put my S7 Edge next to an IPS screen I'd immediately notice the warmer whites and the dimmer display but if there was nothing to compare it to my eyes callibrated and the whites and the brigthness were perfect - at least to my own perception.
So I saw those S9+ advertisements. They were advertising a brighter screen than the S8 which was already brighter than my S7 Edge (actually turned out that the S9+ in manual mode is dimmer than not only the S8 and the S7 Edge but even the S4 but that's a different topic). The whites on this phone also appeared to be much more cooler and IPS-like compared to my S7 Edge. This combined with the camera, the taller screen, virtual buttons and all the other cool features was an instant sell for me. I preordered on day one.
First phone: I had purchased it directly from my carrier. Had to resign my contract for another 24 months with them but when I finally got the phone it felt like it was totally worth it. Until I finally set it up and actually placed it horizontally on the bed - I could see nothing. The viewing angles were worse than they were on my TN panel monitor years ago. Everything was blue. I quickly googled it and learned it was called "blue shift" and was really common with the initial batches of the Pixel 2 XL. Well... in comparison to all those Pixel phones I saw on various photos and videos - mine was worse than all of them. I quickly snapped some photos of the display and returned to the store. It was a tough process because my carrier doesn't usually accept returns so I had to contact Samsung for help directly. They eventually sent me a new one.
Second phone : Checked it in the store to see how it looked at an angle and it shifted only ever so slightly blue. Compared it to the various demo devices there and realized that was actually the norm. It didn't bother me at all this time so I accepted it. When I got away from the bright lights in the store and sat on my bed late in the evening with no lamps on I noticed that the pure whites I had bought this phone for are now warmer than on my old S7 Edge - everything appeared yellowish. My eyes started to get used to the yellow tint and I started to finally perceive the whites as proper whites until I realized that every single small tilt of the device (as small as 10-20 degrees) resulted in a red shift before the slight blue one. For some weird reason, this red hue decalibrated my eyes and when I returned the device to its original position I saw the whites yellowish all over again. And due to it happening at such small angles it basically happened every 10 seconds or so, especially when using the phone with one hand. It was absolutely unbearable and I went back to the store and literally begged them to give me my first device back. Apparently this was not posssible and they also refused to aknowledge this as an issue eligible for a return. Samsung, on the other hand, refused to cooperate a second time. I was forced to sell it, fortunately at not that big of a loss.
Third phone: Now this one was bought from an online retailer so I could have a 14-day return window if I got a screen like my last one. The phone finally arrived and the screen was perfect - no yellow tint, no red shift, no extreme blue shift. Joke's on me, though - they had sent me the wrong phone - I had ordered the dual sim variant and they mistakenly sent me a single sim one. So I sent it back.
Fourth phone: Got my next one - this time a proper DUOS. Funny thing, though - it was just like my second one - the one I sold. Whites were a bit less yellow this time but the constant red shifts at really small angles totally decalibrated my eyes and I couldn't perceive white as actual white for 5 seconds straight. That drove me nuts. I made use of the 14-day return period and asked them to send me another one.
Fifth phone: Oh god, this phone was perfect. Even better than the third one. Perfect whites, no stupid red shift, blue shift was at extreme angles only and even then it was very light - I've never been more satisfied with a display. I used it for 4 days straight - it was a pleasure, really. Until I noticed that there was a dead pixel right in the middle of the damn screen. Only one... out of millions. But once I saw it I could literally not unsee it... ever. I sent it back, they acknowledged the defect, and because it was brand new they sent me yet another one.
Sixth phone: So my current phone, the sixth one, is basically like the fourth and the second ones. I'm now literally where I started. After about $50 lost from the sale of my second phone, after another $50 spent on transport fees and after 2 months without a phone, I got literally the same goddamn phone. Maybe it's not as yellow as the second one but the goddamn red shift makes it appear yellow to me each and every single time I tilt the device ever so slightly. And by the time I finally start getting accustomed to the white colour temperature I accidentally tilt it again.
As I was browsing around the forums yesterday to find out whether someone else experienced similar issues I bumped into the Black Crush thread and when I checked for it it turns out I have it too and it makes not only whites unbearable to look at but apparently different shades of black next to each other as well. After going through so many phones I'm not even sure whether any of them had it as well or it's just that one. In the meantime, while checking for Black Crush in a dark room I noticed that my light from the screen is reflecting in the curved glass and leaking from all sides and the phone basically looks like a Christmas tree in a dark environment. I'm not sure whether any of the previous devices exhibited that either. My S7 Edge aso had a curved screen, even more so, and was definitely not like that. After reading about this, however, it turns out that 80% of the people have it as well. To be honest, the light leak and the black crush are bothering me not nearly as much as the yellow tint and the red shift.
Yes, I'm using Adaptive Mode and no, I'm not using Blue Light filter, nor do I use a 3rd party app that's triggering the in-built in Android Night Light filter. Tweaking with the software calibration is also out of the question because 80% of my phone usage is actually watching YouTube and I can't do it without the Video Enhancer on. And the Video Enhancer overrides all display settings turning the whites into their facotry-callibrated variant.
If anyone is wondering why the hell did I wrote this huge wall of text. Well... there are two reasons. First and foremost, I just wanted to complain about Samsung's absolutely ridiculous QA this year - displays on near $1000 phones shouldn't have such issues nor should they vary as much. Second of all, I wanted to just get this out of my system as I'm not sure what to do anymore. I might be able to get the retailer to return my money after all as I think I might still have another 14 days to do that after the last device but the problem is that, as I was really sick of dealing with this BS and bothering them with it, when the device arrived I told them over the phone that this time it was perfect and everything was fine. Now I've been using it for almost a week, I've taken all of the wraps off and they've reissued all the documents already. I'd hate to be the douche that returns yet another phone, even after already confirming that it's perfect. And finally, I wanted to ask if any of you has observed at least one of those issues or I'm just bat**** crazy. Thank you for reading!
I dunno.. have you tried returning the phone and getting a replacement?
I just think you're super picky and I'm not. I bought the phone and it's nicer quality than my LG V20. Done.
I initially didn't like the curved glass and the rounded corners. But that nothing to do with the display quality.
g.buyukliev said:
So I'm at my sixth S9+ right now... yes, the sixth. I have never believed that such a small device can drive me so crazy. The funny thing is that I haven't seen anyone talking about the issues that I have been facing. So I might be crazy after all.
Ever since the original Samsung Galaxy S I9000 released I've been using Samsung phones with AMOLED screens. The I9000 was followed by an S4. After that I bought myself an S7 Edge. Up to this point I've always been super happy with my devices. Most of all I enjoyed the displays. I swore on AMOLED and would never look back and use an IPS.
AMOLED has always had two donwsides for me, though - low brigthness and warmer whites compared to an IPS. Over the years I learned to live with both of those. If I put my S7 Edge next to an IPS screen I'd immediately notice the warmer whites and the dimmer display but if there was nothing to compare it to my eyes callibrated and the whites and the brigthness were perfect - at least to my own perception.
So I saw those S9+ advertisements. They were advertising a brighter screen than the S8 which was already brighter than my S7 Edge (actually turned out that the S9+ in manual mode is dimmer than not only the S8 and the S7 Edge but even the S4 but that's a different topic). The whites on this phone also appeared to be much more cooler and IPS-like compared to my S7 Edge. This combined with the camera, the taller screen, virtual buttons and all the other cool features was an instant sell for me. I preordered on day one.
First phone: I had purchased it directly from my carrier. Had to resign my contract for another 24 months with them but when I finally got the phone it felt like it was totally worth it. Until I finally set it up and actually placed it horizontally on the bed - I could see nothing. The viewing angles were worse than they were on my TN panel monitor years ago. Everything was blue. I quickly googled it and learned it was called "blue shift" and was really common with the initial batches of the Pixel 2 XL. Well... in comparison to all those Pixel phones I saw on various photos and videos - mine was worse than all of them. I quickly snapped some photos of the display and returned to the store. It was a tough process because my carrier doesn't usually accept returns so I had to contact Samsung for help directly. They eventually sent me a new one.
Second phone : Checked it in the store to see how it looked at an angle and it shifted only ever so slightly blue. Compared it to the various demo devices there and realized that was actually the norm. It didn't bother me at all this time so I accepted it. When I got away from the bright lights in the store and sat on my bed late in the evening with no lamps on I noticed that the pure whites I had bought this phone for are now warmer than on my old S7 Edge - everything appeared yellowish. My eyes started to get used to the yellow tint and I started to finally perceive the whites as proper whites until I realized that every single small tilt of the device (as small as 10-20 degrees) resulted in a red shift before the slight blue one. For some weird reason, this red hue decalibrated my eyes and when I returned the device to its original position I saw the whites yellowish all over again. And due to it happening at such small angles it basically happened every 10 seconds or so, especially when using the phone with one hand. It was absolutely unbearable and I went back to the store and literally begged them to give me my first device back. Apparently this was not posssible and they also refused to aknowledge this as an issue eligible for a return. Samsung, on the other hand, refused to cooperate a second time. I was forced to sell it, fortunately at not that big of a loss.
Third phone: Now this one was bought from an online retailer so I could have a 14-day return window if I got a screen like my last one. The phone finally arrived and the screen was perfect - no yellow tint, no red shift, no extreme blue shift. Joke's on me, though - they had sent me the wrong phone - I had ordered the dual sim variant and they mistakenly sent me a single sim one. So I sent it back.
Fourth phone: Got my next one - this time a proper DUOS. Funny thing, though - it was just like my second one - the one I sold. Whites were a bit less yellow this time but the constant red shifts at really small angles totally decalibrated my eyes and I couldn't perceive white as actual white for 5 seconds straight. That drove me nuts. I made use of the 14-day return period and asked them to send me another one.
Fifth phone: Oh god, this phone was perfect. Even better than the third one. Perfect whites, no stupid red shift, blue shift was at extreme angles only and even then it was very light - I've never been more satisfied with a display. I used it for 4 days straight - it was a pleasure, really. Until I noticed that there was a dead pixel right in the middle of the damn screen. Only one... out of millions. But once I saw it I could literally not unsee it... ever. I sent it back, they acknowledged the defect, and because it was brand new they sent me yet another one.
Sixth phone: So my current phone, the sixth one, is basically like the fourth and the second ones. I'm now literally where I started. After about $50 lost from the sale of my second phone, after another $50 spent on transport fees and after 2 months without a phone, I got literally the same goddamn phone. Maybe it's not as yellow as the second one but the goddamn red shift makes it appear yellow to me each and every single time I tilt the device ever so slightly. And by the time I finally start getting accustomed to the white colour temperature I accidentally tilt it again.
As I was browsing around the forums yesterday to find out whether someone else experienced similar issues I bumped into the Black Crush thread and when I checked for it it turns out I have it too and it makes not only whites unbearable to look at but apparently different shades of black next to each other as well. After going through so many phones I'm not even sure whether any of them had it as well or it's just that one. In the meantime, while checking for Black Crush in a dark room I noticed that my light from the screen is reflecting in the curved glass and leaking from all sides and the phone basically looks like a Christmas tree in a dark environment. I'm not sure whether any of the previous devices exhibited that either. My S7 Edge aso had a curved screen, even more so, and was definitely not like that. After reading about this, however, it turns out that 80% of the people have it as well. To be honest, the light leak and the black crush are bothering me not nearly as much as the yellow tint and the red shift.
Yes, I'm using Adaptive Mode and no, I'm not using Blue Light filter, nor do I use a 3rd party app that's triggering the in-built in Android Night Light filter. Tweaking with the software calibration is also out of the question because 80% of my phone usage is actually watching YouTube and I can't do it without the Video Enhancer on. And the Video Enhancer overrides all display settings turning the whites into their facotry-callibrated variant.
If anyone is wondering why the hell did I wrote this huge wall of text. Well... there are two reasons. First and foremost, I just wanted to complain about Samsung's absolutely ridiculous QA this year - displays on near $1000 phones shouldn't have such issues nor should they vary as much. Second of all, I wanted to just get this out of my system as I'm not sure what to do anymore. I might be able to get the retailer to return my money after all as I think I might still have another 14 days to do that after the last device but the problem is that, as I was really sick of dealing with this BS and bothering them with it, when the device arrived I told them over the phone that this time it was perfect and everything was fine. Now I've been using it for almost a week, I've taken all of the wraps off and they've reissued all the documents already. I'd hate to be the douche that returns yet another phone, even after already confirming that it's perfect. And finally, I wanted to ask if any of you has observed at least one of those issues or I'm just bat**** crazy. Thank you for reading!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i am on same boat with you so i fully understand your upset. I am having here S8+ plus running nougat and S9+ running Oreo. When I watching youtube and each devices and video enhancer kicks in, the white point on S8+ much better than S9+ (so yellow). Samsung did change white value of video enhancer on Oreo make the screen yellowish. Both device are in adaptive mode with red and green at its minimum. Comparing the white point when doing web browsing, I have to say they are all the same kind of screen (same brightness nits at manual max, not much pure white like iphone screen). I hate how samsung did lied to me about 20% brighter screen on s9+. so ****ing tricky advertisement
---------- Post added at 07:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:38 AM ----------
yuppicide said:
I just think you're super picky and I'm not. I bought the phone and it's nicer quality than my LG V20. Done.
I initially didn't like the curved glass and the rounded corners. But that nothing to do with the display quality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also have the LG V20 and I have to say V20 has better screen color and brightness even though its resolution and sharpness is not good at S9+
so did you ever manage to get it fixed? did you go for the 7th device?

Categories

Resources