Hi I was just wondering if anyone is using their international gs2 with ATT dumbphone data plan. I know it works, but do they catch you or become suspicious after you use quite a lot of data?
What's the most data you've used on the dumbphone data plan ?
Anyone ?
alex1261 said:
Hi I was just wondering if anyone is using their international gs2 with ATT dumbphone data plan. I know it works, but do they catch you or become suspicious after you use quite a lot of data?
What's the most data you've used on the dumbphone data plan ?
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Catch you for what? And why become suspicious of you?
I don't know for AT&T but we had a similar plan with Bell Canada and some were able to make the plan work with their phone by changing the APN. If you get caught you may be charge for the amount you used however, they have no way to know for how long you have used your phone on the plan. They could kick you out of their service if they catch you. Try Howard Forums for more infor on carrier services.
urself25 said:
I don't know for AT&T but we had a similar plan with Bell Canada and some were able to make the plan work with their phone by changing the APN. If you get caught you may be charge for the amount you used however, they have no way to know for how long you have used your phone on the plan. They could kick you out of their service if they catch you. Try Howard Forums for more infor on carrier services.
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I dont think they will kick you out. Remember, we pay them. We're the customer.
NZed said:
Catch you for what? And why become suspicious of you?
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Catch you as in if I used 5 gb in a month, I mean isn't that suspicious to use that much amount of data just on a dumbphone?
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I want to use the GS2 without paying the monthly data plan, sort of as a wifi only device. Anybody know if I get an S2 off Craigslist and unlock it, will at&t recognize the phone and slap on the monthly data plan?
In other words do they have the IMEI sweeps like they did for unlocked IPhones?
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if you get one and erased all the APN info from it, it will never connect to the Mobile Data from ATT... you will never get charged.
You don't even need to unlock it, if you are staying with AT&T.
I'm talking bout their mandatory smartphone plan.
Or if I don't buy it from them they won't add it ?
I've heard that if it picks up an IMEI from any smartphone registered on the network, it will add the smartphone data package. But I can't confirm this.
As long as you're using a phone released by AT&T, it will know it is a Smartphone by looking up the IMEI because AT&T knows every phone it releases. It doesn't matter where you bought it.
The only chance for you to avoid the data plan is buy a Smartphone that was not released by AT&T. Then again, chances are those phone mostly don't support all the AT&T's 3G/4G bands.
You can use a smartphone from At&t just call customer service and have them WIX block the line in use, I did it with my HTC Fuze before and on the bill it showed "Data Opt-Out"
Will that still let me send and recieve MMS?
Is it the same as a Data Block?
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the new phones use a special sim/gsm, and in order to get network access you have to register the APN (forgive me if I have the names wrong). I've already got the unlimited data plan, and was also thinking of buying a phone so that I can easily be grandfathered. No dice, you have to call them to provision the phone/sim, and then I'm sure they will say you have to go with the limited data plan (charges above a certain usage). Looks like I'm going to have to call and ***** at them until I get them to grandfather me. I'm going to be super pissed if they don't do it. Isn't Verizon and sprint offering unlimited?
I may not need it now, but once I get this GS2 I believe I will be using alot more data.
WeldingRod said:
the new phones use a special sim/gsm, and in order to get network access you have to register the APN (forgive me if I have the names wrong). I've already got the unlimited data plan, and was also thinking of buying a phone so that I can easily be grandfathered. No dice, you have to call them to provision the phone/sim, and then I'm sure they will say you have to go with the limited data plan (charges above a certain usage). Looks like I'm going to have to call and ***** at them until I get them to grandfather me. I'm going to be super pissed if they don't do it. Isn't Verizon and sprint offering unlimited?
I may not need it now, but once I get this GS2 I believe I will be using alot more data.
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Verizon no longer offers unlimited. Sprint does. T-Mobile sort of does(No overages. Just slow speeds.)
If you can provision the phone to use the wap.cingular APN, then you might (MIGHT) be able to slide under the radar. This is what we have done with my son's iphone 3gs and iphone 4 for a couple of years now. The system still reports that it is an iphone from the IMEI number but the feature is the $10.00 unlimited non-smartphone plan. As far as I know, there are no automated sweeps that look for smartphones with the wrong data plan. It looks at what APN the phone requests and then matches that to how your account is provisioned. If it tries to connect to a smartphone APN, and no provision is on the account for it, one is automatically added.
I've even had CS reps notice the iphone on his account with the $10.00 plan and breeze through it like it didn't even matter to them.
If you can change the SGS2 APN to use the wap APN, then the key is to have your SIM inserted into a non-smartphone and add the unlimited data package before placing the SIM into your SGS2 that has had its APN changed.
One thing I don't know is if you will get HSPA speeds on wap.cingular. I know 3G works well.
bob7770699 said:
Will that still let me send and recieve MMS?
Is it the same as a Data Block?
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Yes, its Data block from At&t's side and so they won't add a data plan. I don't know if MMS will work cause at that time I only remember using text which was working fine.
I got my captivate with an upgrade from att of course. lol anyways the imei number got messed up cause I flashed a bad rom or something. I had some issue's with my phone, and I called att.They told me that I haven't been using my captivate. They said I was using an unknown phone. My point is backup your efs folder. Delete the one on the phone reboot your phone, and att will never know you have been using a smartphone on your account. When ever you want you can put the backed up efs folder on the phone, and the imei number will register again.
Are you saying backup and delete the whole folder? Or the sub folder with the imei in it?
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Does anyone know of a provider that you can get an inexpesive data only plan for the viewpad? I spent several hours trying to get set up with a tablet plan with AT&T and their 15/month for 250MB. In the end they would only support the viewpad as a phone, for no less than $40/month. Im not really interested in a phone plan. I only need the data plan. Any suggestions?
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I only need the data plan. Any suggestions?
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For US carrier, take a look at AT&T Gophone prepaid (which is what I've been using for several years) or T-Mobile prepaid. Gophone has 3 data feature (as add-on, optional to voice & SMS/MMS) packages and unused data allowance carryover after 30 days with additional purchase (deducted from available fund balance) - voice & text included, if you do not use it, you aren't charged. Depends on how much data you are or planning to use, and whether you have WiFi access too - don't believe you need to get into a contract plan at all with the Vpad7, both carriers don't really care what device you are using the sim card in - and you can switch it out as needed. Please start checking out their website's prepaid plans to get the basics for your research & planning .... be glad to help if you have specific issues or concern.
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Does anyone know of a provider that you can get an inexpesive data only plan for the viewpad? I spent several hours trying to get set up with a tablet plan with AT&T and their 15/month for 250MB. In the end they would only support the viewpad as a phone, for no less than $40/month. Im not really interested in a phone plan. I only need the data plan. Any suggestions?
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Well my understanding if your bring your own hardware they had to give you what plan you wanted. I pressed Verizon and got voice and text only on my Eris I bought right out. Go into the att store with the ViewPad and force them.
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Thanks. The GoPhone seems to be working. I'm a little concerned about how much data will be used. Seems like it could get expensive. Anyway, I set up the 10cents/minute plan, which doesn't include data for "smartphones" until you add it later. Therefore, I shouldn't get charged for any phone or text usage if I don't use it.
I was a little confusing getting set up, but now that it's done, it should be pretty straight-forward to reload.
To set up, I had to create the account, which does not include data usage. Then I was able to add the "Data Package" after the device was activated.
Thanks for the tip.
I had the same experience with ATT. Their system automatically classifies the viewpad's imei as a "phone" and will reject monthly data plan signups. Had to go with their prepaid data plan which gets you less data for the samse amount. Jerks. Unfortunately the viewpad only gets edge service on t-mobile or id go with them.
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Hey guys, I was thinking about getting an Aria for my girlfriend. I have a few questions before I purchase one though:
1. I heard you could unlock it by talking to AT&T, but just in case, can anyone point me to a cheap/reputable place to get it unlocked online? Thanks
2. Is it easy to permanently disable Cellular Network data? She would be using it with no data plan, so we wouldnt want any data to get through.
roltzje said:
Hey guys, I was thinking about getting an Aria for my girlfriend. I have a few questions before I purchase one though:
1. I heard you could unlock it by talking to AT&T, but just in case, can anyone point me to a cheap/reputable place to get it unlocked online? Thanks
2. Is it easy to permanently disable Cellular Network data? She would be using it with no data plan, so we wouldnt want any data to get through.
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If you get the phone unlocked, it should work fine on any GSM network.
As far as data is concerned, I know that AT&T will detect your phone and may apply a smart-phone data plan (even if you don't want or use one).
One way around this is to put the SIM card into a dumb phone and disable the data plan on-line or call ATT to disable it.
Then pop the SIM card back into the Aria and you're in business.
It has worked for me like this for over 5 years of owning smart phones without data plans (which I don't use or need).
DanGeorges said:
One way around this is to put the SIM card into a dumb phone and disable the data plan on-line or call ATT to disable it.
Then pop the SIM card back into the Aria and you're in business.
It has worked for me like this for over 5 years of owning smart phones without data plans (which I don't use or need).
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This will ONLY work if you have a very old plan with AT&T and you are grandfathered in.
If you switched plans or started your service after AT&T started requiring smartphones to have data plans, you will be automatically switched to a data plan if you put your SIM card into an Aria. There's no way around it.
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This will ONLY work if you have a very old plan with AT&T and you are grandfathered in.
If you switched plans or started your service after AT&T started requiring smartphones to have data plans, you will be automatically switched to a data plan if you put your SIM card into an Aria. There's no way around it.
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That's unfortunate. I will definitely keep my "old" plan just to make sure I'm still able to keep the data plan off.
I had, for a month, an unlimited ($15) plan, but since I really didn't see a need, dropped it and opted out. Looking back, I probably should have kept it in case there could be a day when I need a new plan.
When that day comes, I will be switching to a pay-as-you-go plan.
That would allow me to keep my Aria, WiFi, etc. - without subscribing to an unnecessary data plan. The only downside is losing my mobile number...
I just got a Galaxy SIII and my mom wants to use my Vibrant as a dumbphone. When I put the SIM card in it keeps saying "searching..." for a signal. She doesn't have a data plan. Is there any way to allow my mom to use the phone just to make calls and texts?
Try calling T-Mobile. When I leave my contract, they said that my web may be taken off of my phone and I can keep my vibrant. (Unlike AT&T)
T-Mobile claims that you need a data plan to use the Vibrant unfortunately.
No data plan is needed. I use mine without one and it works just fine. Are you sure you have reception at the location you tried it? I think (I may be wrong) that it says "no sim" if it doesnt like the sim, and "searching" if its really looking for a signal.
You should just be able to swap a sim card in though. I've temporarily swapped family members cards into my vibrant with no problem.
You could use T-Mobile prepaid plan $30/month 1500minutes or text. If its an extra line, maybe its cheaper to just get her a cheaper phone that don't require data and sell the Vibrant.
indiemixer said:
I just got a Galaxy SIII and my mom wants to use my Vibrant as a dumbphone. When I put the SIM card in it keeps saying "searching..." for a signal. She doesn't have a data plan. Is there any way to allow my mom to use the phone just to make calls and texts?
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The vibrant does NOT require you to have a data plan. I had my phone cut off for awhile and decided to cut it back on but with no data plan. T mobile did make me buy a new sim card though, take the phone to them and tell them to activate it without data. If its anything like my experience you will just have to buy a new sim card even though yours is perfectly fine, not sure why they make you do that. You may also just be able to "unlock" you're phone and the sim card you have now might work, I have never unlocked my vibrant so you would have to google that. Good luck ...
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indiemixer said:
I just got a Galaxy SIII and my mom wants to use my Vibrant as a dumbphone. When I put the SIM card in it keeps saying "searching..." for a signal. She doesn't have a data plan. Is there any way to allow my mom to use the phone just to make calls and texts?
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This may sound dumb.. but make sure the sim card is inserted in the right direction. I've been in a hurry myself a few times and put it in wrong. The first time I spent a few hours troubleshooting before figuring it out.
I felt pretty dumb afterwards lol
Also my wife uses her vibrant with no data plan just fine.
You do have to watch out though because on our plan T-Mobile refuses to block data so if you accidentally use something that pulls data using the phone data instead of wifi then they charge all sorts of overages.
The way we got around that was using the built in miui firewall to disable phone data for everything and allow Wi-Fi.
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It is definitely possible. I've been doing that for the past 5 years with my smartphones (yeah I know I'm cheap). I am always around a wireless hotspot so I figured...do I really need a data plan? No!!! I am currently using a pay as you go plan with my Gnex on Tmo I only pay for the number of minutes i may need and text are like 15ยข or something. The best part about it is that I have saved hundreds of dollars not paying for a useless data plan (at least in my case). So yeah back to your question yes you can use your vibrant without a data plan. You may just have to visit your local Tmo store so they can get you on a pay as you go plan or a similar prepaid plan that does not require a a data plan. They will give you a new sim card and you may be able to keep you number but you must ask them. The guy or girl at the Tmo store will try to convince you to stay on the data plan and will probably say that it is necessary to have one on every smartphone...but that is bull**** so just ignore them...good luck. One more thing just to save you the hassle you also have the option to buy a sim card activation kit online at T-Mobile.com but I don't know how that works.
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Very possible. I was on T-Mobile and just switched sim cards without telling them. I used mine without a data plan for half a year with no problems. Just makes using it on the road or while driving a little harder.
Yes, it's possible. I've used my Vibrant on pay as you go all along. I'm actually on prepaid plus the unlimited text plan (extra $15 a month).
firefly6240 said:
This may sound dumb.. but make sure the sim card is inserted in the right direction. I've been in a hurry myself a few times and put it in wrong. The first time I spent a few hours troubleshooting before figuring it out.
I felt pretty dumb afterwards lol
Also my wife uses her vibrant with no data plan just fine.
You do have to watch out though because on our plan T-Mobile refuses to block data so if you accidentally use something that pulls data using the phone data instead of wifi then they charge all sorts of overages.
The way we got around that was using the built in miui firewall to disable phone data for everything and allow Wi-Fi.
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Tmobile refuses to block data for you, really? I have two smart phones without data plans, and I simply had to just tell them to remove pay as you go data from those lines, and include something called data blocker feature (forget what exactly it's called). After that, it wasnt possible for me to use data anywhere but at a hotspot.
Hey, I just added on dumb phone data plan and i wanna know how to use it safe and not over use it so it won't get suspicious.
Thanks in advance!!!
tickme said:
Hey, I just added on dumb phone data plan and i wanna know how to use it safe and not over use it so it won't get suspicious.
Thanks in advance!!!
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Been on it since before I got this phone a year ago. Just don't go using 20gb of data in a month or anything. I actually rarely use more than 2gb per month, since I'm often near a wifi hotspot
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Been on it since before I got this phone a year ago. Just don't go using 20gb of data in a month or anything. I actually rarely use more than 2gb per month, since I'm often near a wifi hotspot
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ya i see what u mean but it seem like some of my app are randomly using data is that normal? its very little but i just wanna make sure because its my first smartphone. thx btw
tickme said:
ya i see what u mean but it seem like some of my app are randomly using data is that normal? its very little but i just wanna make sure because its my first smartphone. thx btw
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You'll have to be more specific. Many apps use data, such as email, facebook, twitter, and others if you have sync turned on. That's normal, but you can turn all that off if you want.
I have all that turned on, but still rarely use over 2gb per month since I make sure to connect to wifi where available.
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You'll have to be more specific. Many apps use data, such as email, facebook, twitter, and others if you have sync turned on. That's normal, but you can turn all that off if you want.
I have all that turned on, but still rarely use over 2gb per month since I make sure to connect to wifi where available.
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ya i understand that. btw on my phone status under Mobile network type its listed as: HSDPA:9 is that correct? thank alots.
tickme said:
ya i understand that. btw on my phone status under Mobile network type its listed as: HSDPA:9 is that correct? thank alots.
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Curious, mine says HSPA, not HSDPA:9.
Weird, ima google around and see is there a difference. ill reply back after i find out.
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Can someone explain a little to me about this, a Samsung and dumbphone, what's this about, a way to save money?
I'm a Verizon customer using an Dink 2 rooted, and always looking for a way out of Verizon and still have the same benifits at a lower price.
Lino. said:
Can someone explain a little to me about this, a Samsung and dumbphone, what's this about, a way to save money?
I'm a Verizon customer using an Dink 2 rooted, and always looking for a way out of Verizon and still have the same benifits at a lower price.
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AT&T has a non-smartphone data plan, which people also call a dumbphone data plan.
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AT&T has a non-smartphone data plan, which people also call a dumbphone data plan.
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Verizon use to have that also, they probably still do, so is the AT&T dumbphone data plan is being used on a smartphone, this is possible because AT&T uses sim cards, and the service was sold to an actual dumbphone.
Is this the case?
Lino. said:
Verizon use to have that also, they probably still do, so is the AT&T dumbphone data plan is being used on a smartphone, this is possible because AT&T uses sim cards, and the service was sold to an actual dumbphone.
Is this the case?
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Yup.