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So everyone was on mr eugene373's thread talking crap, so it got closed down, the only problem is, this is the best rom out and now we have no where to get help for it! so i figgured if we could be decent and mature people we might be able to help one another out.
once again please no smack talk, no talking down to newbs, just keep it clean, and help out (hey remember you were a newb once too).
with that said, here is my first problem i'm having...
my home and back button are switched, other than that, the rom works perfectly. anyone else have the same problem or has anyone else out there found a solution?
zbt1985 said:
So everyone was on mr eugene373's thread talking crap, so it got closed down, the only problem is, this is the best rom out and now we have no where to get help for it! so i figgured if we could be decent and mature people we might be able to help one another out.
once again please no smack talk, no talking down to newbs, just keep it clean, and help out (hey remember you were a newb once too).
with that said, here is my first problem i'm having...
my home and back button are switched, other than that, the rom works perfectly. anyone else have the same problem or has anyone else out there found a solution?
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I don't think he want's to continue it over here.
He stated on his twitter that he moved it over here: http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?t=4019
Not to mention there is a thread about this in the general..
Thanks, mind as well close this thread now then...
Master™ said:
I don't think he want's to continue it over here.
He stated on his twitter that he moved it over here: http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?t=4019
Not to mention there is a thread about this in the general..
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Thank for posting this master on my way over there
Downright shame! Another great cook / great rom that i have to go to another board for help on!
I think this thread should be in the dev section. This site is about all of the users, if not for each of us, this site would suck.
I was going to do this myself, a lot of the dumb (considered dumb by some of the dev's, not typically Eugene though) questions can be answered by the average user.
Thread closed... we are waiting for the developer to let us know his plans for the ROM Thread that is closed...by his request.
Can http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-7-0-released this be installed on my HTC Thunderbolt?
Anyone tried it?
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Can http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-7-0-released this be installed on my HTC Thunderbolt?
Anyone tried it?
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No, it won't work. See the below thread for current progress on CM7 on the T-Bolt.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1017021
It's not ready yet, people are working on it, chill out.
A) This the wrong section for this question and B) this questions has been addressed multiple times.
@scottricketts: why dont you "chill out" yourself? huh?
i ask simple question, if this is bothering you go "chill" somewhere else...
@failsaf3: ok, sorry for posting at wrong place (i'm new here), i'm not on this forum 24/7 to see if question was address multiple times.
i guess if someone is working on it, then i'll just wait till its all done ;p
Everyone just needs to RELAX
i'm relaxed, i just dont like getting this kind of tone with "chill out" from someone... if failsaf3 said it was address multiple times and that i post at wrong forum, so i'll accept that since what i did is wrong and i've been corrected in professional way.
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i'm relaxed, i just dont like getting this kind of tone with "chill out" from someone... if failsaf3 said it was address multiple times and that i post at wrong forum, so i'll accept that since what i did is wrong and i've been corrected in professional way.
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There is a dedicated thread in the General forum
thanks, i already see that
a1exus said:
i'm relaxed, i just dont like getting this kind of tone with "chill out" from someone... if failsaf3 said it was address multiple times and that i post at wrong forum, so i'll accept that since what i did is wrong and i've been corrected in professional way.
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He may have been harsh, but you have to understand that this question is brought up on a regular basis. Your question could have been google'd and answered, or you could have used the search feature on this site to get your answer. Answering the same question over and over again and having the forum clogged with the same question gets very irritating. Like previously mentioned, there is a thread in general that is dedicated to keeping us updated on when it's released.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cyanogenmod+thunderbolt
guys, let's just close this conversation
i saw it in news that this mod just came out so i rush to xda to ask for it, let's just forget it about this whole thing ... i'm like any other average joe will be patiently waiting for an "official" release of cyanogenmod7 or official release from verizon/htc
Been spending too much time flipping back and forth between the dev forum and here trying to find the latest scoop on what is going on with a permanent root solution. With the threads getting closed and people getting banned over on the dev forum, not even the devs are posting any real updates there any more. And here... the threads are broken up. So how about one consolidated thread to talk about status, rumors, etc.? ONE place to go to get the latest scoop.
For example, TeamWin posted on Twitter yesterday that there are no big announcements and they've run into a lot of roadblocks. Also said something about having to try different avenues now. Sounds like permaroot could take a while. Maybe someone posted that info here somewhere, but it's hard to tell where to look any more to find the latest status, rumors, and talk about root. Even the devs have given up posting in the dev forum.
Mike
I think it's time to put the screws back to HTC to make good on their "promise"
This phone WILL be going back if they don't unlock it.
It's ok, as good as these devs are... I never really expected full root unless HTC unlocks the phone.
I just hate that this site, well at least the 3D section has become retardedly over moderated. Perfect example of someone who doesn't need a bus patrol badge IMO.
In before thread lockdown lol
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Been spending too much time flipping back and forth between the dev forum and here trying to find the latest scoop on what is going on with a permanent root solution. With the threads getting closed and people getting banned over on the dev forum, not even the devs are posting any real updates there any more. And here... the threads are broken up. So how about one consolidated thread to talk about status, rumors, etc.? ONE place to go to get the latest scoop.
For example, TeamWin posted on Twitter yesterday that there are no big announcements and they've run into a lot of roadblocks. Also said something about having to try different avenues now. Sounds like permaroot could take a while. Maybe someone posted that info here somewhere, but it's hard to tell where to look any more to find the latest status, rumors, and talk about root. Even the devs have given up posting in the dev forum.
Mike
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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Yep that's exactly what I was about to say. Heck, it's even stickied at the top of the dev page.. Not sure why this thread exists.
If you guys actually want success with the return under 30 days policy, you need to give that threat to the CARRIER and have them place the pressure on HTC. It will NOT hurt the HTC bottom line if you return your phone to sprint. Sprint already bought the phone FROM HTC. So it hurts Sprint, not HTC.
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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That thread (and the other one there) don't do the job. That's why this one exists! First of all, if I only wanted to be updated once a day, there wouldn't be a worn out blank key between F4 and F6 on my keyboard.
Second, us "normal" users can't post in that forum and those threads are not updated as regularly (or as well) as you say. Right now, if you wanted to know the latest status (from Twitter) that says "#teamwin No big announcement tonight. We hit some pretty big road blocks. But I'm working on a new angle to Fre3dom" you can't find it any place but here. People who have their ear to the ground should be able to post what they find... when they find it.
Mike
mikeyxda said:
That thread (and the other one there) don't do the job. That's why this one exists! First of all, if I only wanted to be updated once a day, there wouldn't be a worn out blank key between F4 and F6 on my keyboard.
Second, us "normal" users can't post in that forum and those threads are not updated as regularly (or as well) as you say. Right now, if you wanted to know the latest status (from Twitter) that says "#teamwin No big announcement tonight. We hit some pretty big road blocks. But I'm working on a new angle to Fre3dom" you can't find it any place but here. People who have their ear to the ground should be able to post what they find... when they find it.
Mike
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well buddy looks like you're just asking for way too much...
SayWhat10 said:
there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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Well, in that thread....my is there no mention about fre3dom..just says about the fre3^vo and permanent root..nothing about s-off coming up...on the the status and upcoming items are?
edufur said:
If you guys actually want success with the return under 30 days policy, you need to give that threat to the CARRIER and have them place the pressure on HTC. It will NOT hurt the HTC bottom line if you return your phone to sprint. Sprint already bought the phone FROM HTC. So it hurts Sprint, not HTC.
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+1
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You won't get an ETA because one can't be given yet. Until someone actually achieves a full unlock, you can't possibly say how long it will take. You just keep trying different things until you break through. Once a full unlock is achieved then it's a matter of hours or a few days before it will be released so that the unlock can be put into an easy-to-use format & combined with other nice things like a custom recovery. There's also no telling who will find the unlock. It might be TeamWin or Unrevoked or someone else.
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Well, in that thread....my is there no mention about fre3dom..just says about the fre3^vo and permanent root..nothing about s-off coming up...on the the status and upcoming items are?
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fre3dom is full root
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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fre3dom is full root
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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Well put rank! And enough with the mods being to harsh and people won't post blah blahblah.! That's a dead horse! Move the hell on! Old news pal!
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rank78 said:
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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I think that this thread is better judgment. The Op posted that he wanted to discuss status, rumors, etc... Go post rumors in the actual dev threads. Tell me how that works out.
Whenever anyone posts in the the dev threads they are usually told to go make a post in general. Thats what this op did. I would rather see this thread created to discuss speculation then see the mods freak out because people are cluttering up the dev threads and start locking **** down so that the real Devs have to go post to forums other than XDA to get the word / files out. THAT is embarrassing. Not posting a thread to help keep the dev threads clean. Its not in the Dev forum, its in the general forum.
Let it be.
Oh and yeah... I'm not trying to be a **** either. Just telling you how it is when the Mods freak out over people talking in the Dev thread.
And who did you see walk away? They werent dedicated to the cause if they did. A real dev knows "newbish" behavior and also knows you wont stop it. EVER. So if they left... I say to them... Bye bye.
Fred3dom is no root...no shoot Sherlock..do we need to be censored for asking questions? To some..like me...root is a step to a more important goal...s-off. I am basing my decision to spend hard earned cash for this beast. And if these threads are out of hand...go to any forum...see if there is not humor(sometimes not related to the topic)...see if there is not a release of ideas that are free flowing. See if there is not a bond or sometimes hatred for others. The rules state...this thing is called xda is for sharing of ideas...by the community for the community, developers of software for these devices and newbies that need help. If we have such strict rules...then why have this forum? Learning is done by asking questions and sharing knowledge..not be being so strict...you don't have room to ask questions...and ideas are free forming as is knowledge...they are not something that can be censored...get a grip. ****...we could't even say thank you to the people who work hard to reach a goal...I don't know if you ever had a simple thanks for good work....this is just as important as info...and if you have not noticed...this thread is for root...for you it became a soapbox for yourself...what the he'll does that have to do with root?....a soapbox also...is not root.
Who are you talking to, me? Or the guy a couple posts above me?
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Who are you talking to, me? Or the guy a couple posts above me?
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Is not the noobs whos making dev leave is the moderators but i guess u guys all stick together, i think this is a good thread cuz he stated clearly for what it was for n instead of complaining for what he did what we should do is post any news if we had any
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I think that this thread is better judgment. The Op posted that he wanted to discuss status, rumors, etc... Go post rumors in the actual dev threads. Tell me how that works out.
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Exactly! And try to find one thread where all the latest rumors and info is being posted. DOES NOT EXIST. That's exactly why this thread exists. So in keeping on topic, the latest rumor mill shows that HTC is apparently getting ready to unlock the bootloader on the Sensation. Rumors are the 3vo shouldn't be far behind. Details are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155755
My proposal was to keep ALL of this new info in ONE thread. Else you end up with the problem I was trying to solve which is every new little tidbit creating a new thread. Tomorrow "New email from HTC..." will be irrelevant to most and that'll scroll off the bottom of the forum and get lost for the people who haven't seen it yet. Post all this stuff HERE and we can keep up to date.
I know forum etiquette: I run my own forums. So I don't need lectures from mod-wanna-be's. But this IS a good place to keep all the info where everyone can see it: IF people stop posting every little tidbit as different threads.
Mike
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Exactly! And try to find one thread where all the latest rumors and info is being posted. DOES NOT EXIST. That's exactly why this thread exists. So in keeping on topic, the latest rumor mill shows that HTC is apparently getting ready to unlock the bootloader on the Sensation. Rumors are the 3vo shouldn't be far behind. Details are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155755
My proposal was to keep ALL of this new info in ONE thread. Else you end up with the problem I was trying to solve which is every new little tidbit creating a new thread. Tomorrow "New email from HTC..." will be irrelevant to most and that'll scroll off the bottom of the forum and get lost for the people who haven't seen it yet. Post all this stuff HERE and we can keep up to date.
I know forum etiquette: I run my own forums. So I don't need lectures from mod-wanna-be's. But this IS a good place to keep all the info where everyone can see it: IF people stop posting every little tidbit as different threads.
Mike
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Well said, i like this thread n thanx for the news, i really hope they unlock it
Eg ...
What exactly is pre install?
Answer ?
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What exactly does BP stand for?
And so on.. I bet it grows..
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This is already covered in the n00b guide. Search the forums. I think it is on a sticky.
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Most of that information is horribly horribly outdated. Example, not being able to flash att software on a bell or international atrix. I' ve done it a hundred times. Even lots of pre-bootloader unlock information is still posted as "the way to go".. This thread is a great way to breathe new life into the atrix, relevent ,updated questions and answers , and new working links being one asset. I for one, have some very complex questions and the "noob" info just ain't gonna cut it. I'm starting off simple but I am an advanced android user just new with the atrix and I need to ping-pong and brainstorm with other users at the same level and figured this was a great way to troll the xda site for those more advanced users. And I know the thread will grow because if I'm asking these atrix hardware specefic questions surely there are many others that would like to know the same. If I'm in any way wrong, I'm sure a moderator on the worlds most informative cellular reference site will take this thread down..
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One of the moderators here wrote the n00b guide. It is the dude with the chuck Norris profile pic. I'm pretty sure he will have some suggestions.
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Ok thank you soldier
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Swiftks wrote the N00B guide quite some time ago before he was a forum moderator, and yes, a lot of the information in it is outdated now.
We have a Q&A section, which is where you posted this. If you would like an updated N00B guide then you will probably have to create one yourself, as I doubt Swift has the time to go through and update his. Posting a thread where people ask questions which are then answered in the thread will just cause things to end up being buried deep within pages of one thread. That's why there is a whole Q&A section. New questions are visible, and it's easier to search for already answered questions.
Additionally, any questions you ask have probably already been asked and answered, and on top of that, any answers you put in here may at some point become outdated also, and who will moderate keeping everything up to date in this thread. Much easier to just have the Q&A section which currently exists.
Oh ok .. my bad.. I was probably being a little greedy trying to create one place that had somewhat updated information and especially links.. kinda all in one spot newish. I definitely see your point but figured with some of the silly-fun posting, like ban the one above you, the forum could afford the hard drive space with another thread.. I can abandon the thread if everyone feels it should be... one thing for sure there wouldn't be any megaupload links in it, *yay* lol
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Also, the problems I am having no one seems to have a straight answer.. bp issues seem to be taboo, and subject has been barely touched.. once I resolve these issues im having, my activities in the ATRIX forum will be pretty much helping other users with the information i've learned along the way to getting this horribly ota messed up 'trix up,running,and stable..
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Oops.. I see what might have happened here. I made a mistake in using the wrong terminology. I didn't mean a new thread, I just meant the subject within the q&a thread. . Not sure but does that seem to make more sense caelant? Bottom line, I'd like to be able to come to xda/Motorola atrix/ q&a/,, I dunno, "q&a/atrix woes" for example, for new up to date information/links on problems that many people seem to be having at this time. . Problems such having to boot in no BP mode, ext 3-4 questions, more info on the recovery menu with the early usb enumeration option and such and what do all the options in there do and how to use them, file system layout, heat issues, basically problems that I see others are having as well lately.. I'm not lazy or anything, lol, I just think that if I kept all my findings restricted to this one area I'm in now , myself, and other atrix owners would greatly benefit... I have concentrated a lot of my time into each and every android device I've ever worked on, and theres quite a few and I must say this frickin atrix is the trickiest yet.. I love it though and can't put it down I've brought a few black screens back to life and this atrix o/s was damaged by an incomplete/completely botched ota update from bell froyo to GB then back to froyo.. My specialty you could say is finding the weirdest most improbable obstacles in everything I do and overcoming them. I like this atrix, even though the touch screen feels like an old lg gw620 eve,...lol (again). I have come a long way with the bricked unit I was dropped off and believe I can go a lot further if I stay right here.. I am more than willing to share and brainstorm my findings on this project with all the fine atrix users here on xda.. if I'm outta line , please people speak up..I think this whole idea can do no harm, and can only see positive results. I dunno, flame me people if I'm mistaken.. All the typing I've already done here I could of solved all the issues and shared the information. I know i could be a real asset to many Motorola users along with a few other manufactured brands here on xda....I'm new here but nit at the game.. seems this area is already getting polluted with my explaining my actions, which is exactly what I wanted to get away from. I do over explain don't i....but I do like to try to be thorough.. Grin.. cheers guys.. let's let majority rule..
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Not trying to flame you. I just see a Q&A thread in a Q&A forum as kind of redundant.
My advice would be search for any relevant threads and post in the thread specific to your issue/problem. If there is nothing that is quite the same as your issue/problem, then just create a new thread. I think one of the main things is making sure the thread title clearly states what the thread is about, and make sure to state it is not the same as any similar problems you have found in searches.
Also a good idea to mark a thread as [SOLVED] when it has been, and also make sure to post in the thread what the resolution was so others can see it.
Excellent , very well stated.Keen outlook you have I will admit.,I assumed as much looking over your busy post history. I wouldn't go as far as saying redundant though considering you must assume I have searched for the relevant information I need prior to even thinking of opening this subject "sub thread", (for lack of a better word), I'm just getting a little frustrated with this particular phone because I feel its all about this BP issue and I can't, for the life of me anywhere find much BP information about the atrix. You'd think with such options in the volume down boot menu as the trix has there'd be tons of information on repairing BP issues considering there's 4 or 5 options directly related to it in that fast boot menu.. Between trying to isolate applications and processes which are causing random/frequent reboots and repairing this BP error I must say I'm almost at wits end. Perhaps if you had these problems you might see that pertinent information is next to nill and very vague totally irrevelant or just pkain amature.. I really respect your advice and thank you for it, I can tell you also have a sharp mind, I'm just having a little trouble understanding why you wouldn't support an area, any area where dead links , outdated information, and general chit-chat about unrelated topics would be at a minimum. I'm so fed up of wading through mega-dead-load links, unrelated questions , and inexperienced advice. I don't have the time for that and its looking endless.. I've only had one brick in my repertoire, an x10, and it died mysteriously in my wifeys purse, and patience is running thin for me. I don't want to give up on a phone and throw it in the parts drawer,one that I've brought back to life and is scoring 4000 ish in quadrant scores, but I've been searching for about two weeks now and I've found next to nothing valuable besides a few nice fastwipe scripts. Really zero information on what I know is a common enough problem . What does everyone do, just junk such an intriguing piece of equipment? I'd Hate to say , sometime down the road, I used to have an atrix, worked well now and then, but there was one problem I just couldn't beat. That's gonna eat me up.. while it runs and doesn't reboot it makes my tweaked out infuse look silly and is Running close to my s2. I'm just about out of energy on this one. Has no one in the world fixed or even explored repairing BP issues? Thanks for listening caelent but let's not state the obvious.
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Anyways, turns out my atrix touchscreen, for whatever reason is confirmed to be broken. Was worth a try.. I hope this isn't the case with all the other users. Sorry guys.. I'll have to find me another one , but they're pretty scarce around here. Later people.. was fun trying..
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Someone please kill this..
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Not before you tell me what BP stands for
Its probably really obvious but I have too many acronyms spinning around in my head!
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Not before you tell me what BP stands for
Its probably really obvious but I have too many acronyms spinning around in my head!
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Bluetooth pairing?
I think its Boot loader Partition
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Lmao to everyone having problems with the ota.
Should just been stock then figured out everything after the fact. Have fun. I'm done.
What is the point of this thread other then you being rude?
I don't post much but when I do, its generally asking a question or looking for help. I am very grateful for everyone on the forums, most everyone here is willing to help out. I know that some people get frustrated that the same questions get asked over and over again, and that some people should try the search bar before asking for help. That frustration, I understand.
But in all honesty, I feel your post was uncalled for. Don't you remember being a noob and just starting out?
Sorry, I had to say something.
Great job A$$!
Here's the propper thread from someone who is a definite asset to this website :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812084
See the difference?
Currently not being productive on my S3.
Love you mike.s!
No homo
I don't even understand what he's trying to say. He needs to go to an institute for kids that don't type so good.
Should have been stock for the ota update cuz no one had problems of they were stock and waited for the ota instead of flashing. Douche
I too waited for the update before doing anything to my phone except HTCdev unlock and have had no problems. Why is it everyone who is having problems installing the OTA feels the need to start their own thread about it instead of heaven forbid actually reading someone else's thread or using search?
Yet another pointless thread...:silly:
Closed.