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So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
I spoke with Sedio - they said I should unroot the phone and do a master reset. I can't believe that would make it work better - but I'd rather ask this community first.
Thanks!
Check in the accessory forum there is a couple things on the Seidio battery and some people there that have them may have run into the same issue and have a fix for it.
Can't seem to find a thread where people talk about aa problem with it. Can you point me in the right direction?
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I meant about the battery not that specific problem. If you post there they may have had a similar issue
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Ahh.. Ok - actually someone on AndroidCentral just responded indicating the same issue on a non-rooted phone.. I'm gonnna try doing a full restore to see if that helps..
Yeah. Give that a shout and let us a know if it helps.
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have this battery, after the initial eight cycles allow nearly complete discharge, allow to charge for at least two hours after phone indicates battery is fully charged..... my battery is working very well, just use a battery indicator from the market, I didnt piss around with any battery calibrators, think this might be your problem, have never used a calibrator on any of my phones with extended batteries. Android market probly has an app to wipe your ass.....do you really need it? Hope the analogy is clear to you.
LOL fair enough. I did do the full flash this morning - so I'm unrooted.. Hasn't seemed to help - drain looks the same.. Been through about 6 full cycles since I got the battery. What battery indicator program are you using? I have battery circle and it's got the same issue.
Again - battery lasts just fine - but the amount of power left is never accurately indicated to me - and that's the problem.
I have had many Seidio Batteries, dating back to the OG EVO. The problem I have with this particular battery is this: These batteries work "properly" when charged on an Independent Charger, NOT inside the phone. If you Cycle/Discharge/Charge with this Battery on an External Charger, the Battery should calibrate correctly. I still believe the issue with charging within the phone, is that the Mopho doesnt accurately measure the Battery Capacity. Try and External Charger, should solve your problems....
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Riggy -
Battery def is charging fully as I get tons of life - the MoPho only shows 1% left though for hours on end.. It's a matter of it doesn't see the correct amount of juice left. As per cutter2668, it may just be a situation of discharge - charge. Dunno.
As an FYI I did the full flash this morning, and I haven't really seen a difference in the phone telling me how much batt life I had left. I'll give it another day and hopefully after a period of time it will start reflecting a true number.
I have also emailed Seidio support directly on the issue.
So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Keep us posted and let us know how it goes.
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Don't know if said already but used battery monitor widget pro can be found on apktop or 4shared if can not find it let me know
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For free?
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So as an update, seidio is going to be sending along a new battery to see if that solves the issue. I guess we will see!
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Any luck on the new battery? Just noticed my extended battery is doing the same thing. :-(
So things still aren't working right. Battery shows 1 percent for half my day and the Photon just doesn't know. However, I read a thread on Amazon about a generic extended battery and someone suggested using Battery Monitor and using Voltage Based monitoring. Its certainly not perfect but it gives you a somewhat accurate reads on remaining battery. I truely wonder if this is OS or a hardware limitation.
Oh well.
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Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
kusanagi-sama said:
Why doesn't anyone wipe the battery stats from recovery (only available if you have CWM recovery)?
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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I did with bootstrap recovery this morning, no difference. Sitting at 1% for the last couple of hours.
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Maybe this is an Android issue, I've read the LG Optimus S has the same problem with extended batteries.
I dont know if i just have a bad battery in my phone but ive had it about a week now. No matter how much i use it even if i dont use it at all i can pull it off the charger at 7am and by 1030 or eleven its dead. Ive tried multiple roms to see if it helped but nothing. So my question is do droid x batteries work for this phone too? Ive been searching amazon for extended batteries and it seems like most are for droid x but some say that they are for both. Also does anyone else experince this? With the way the battery is on 2.3.4 i go from full to 15 percent out of nowhere. Im hoping an extened battery will at least allow me to get a full day of work out of it. If someone could link me to a good battery theat they have used that would be great too. Thanks.
Are you heavily calling, texting, gaming, etc during the time your phone's battery is rapidly gaming? Do you have your brightness turned all the way up? Do you allow account synching in the background? All of these are the main causes of battery drain, though they shouldn't drain it quite that quickly. You could very well have a bad battery. Try downloading app/widget battery left, charge up to 100%, and check the voltage on the battery. If less than 4.2 volts, it could mean a battery issue. However even if at 4.2, I can't gaurentee battery health.
Yes, Droid X batteries do in fact work for our phones. I'm actually using the Trident Electra case and battery meant for the X. I highly recommend it, I love the battery life (3 or so days without charging) and the protection the case offers.
Hope I could help!
Yea I hardly use ny phone for calls. And text. Mainly emails and just browsing the forums from time to time. But I manually sync my accounts. Just for this reason. But I have nevr seen anything like this. I have battery minored widget pro voltage is fine the graphs are hilarious to look at since the phone will go from 100 to 93 then drop knew by one to 80 then it drops to 47 and with a half hour of that its at fifteen and as soon as the low battery indicator comes on I hit ok and a minute later its dead.
Well hopefully problem solved ordered a two battery combo with wall charger. 3500mah
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Dead like your phone shuts off? Or the phone % tells you its dead? My extended battery has never read correctly, right now its shows 1% at 3.997v thats most of a charge yet
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I'm having some problems to. Today was the first day I really kept track of how fast my battery drained itself and my God, I feel like my phone should win an award for most juice lost in 4 hours.
I downloaded Easy Battery Saver from the market and started to use a battery widget to monitor my battey life and it honestly seems like the app is working. Give it a try and see how you like it.
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BH5X
mteezey said:
So my question is do droid x batteries work for this phone too?
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I was under the impression that both the X and the X2 used the same battery (BH5X).
If I am wrong, someone please correct me...
They use the same battery. Have you tried calibrating? Charge to 100% then go to spare parts> battery info> then battery voltage. What is it?
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What frequency do you have your email to check. If you have your email on push then the battery will die a lot faster also. I can kill my battery in 4 hours with non stop use. Orbit baby's it 15 he's has been my best. And yea the x and x2 use same battery my spare is from my Droid x and they are the same part number.
Thanks a lot for all the help guys I got the extended battery which helped a little. But I sold the phone already. Couldn't handle being so restricted.
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I'm running cm7 this is with my normal use.
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I'm running cm7 this is with my normal use.
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That's awesome there was definatly something wrong with that phone/battery.
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I got the extended battery and get half the life out of it. Can anyone tell me why this would happen? I have eclipse 1.3, speedy v7, cdma unthrottle mods, and froze battery manager. I've also done a battery calibration and it still dies after a few hours. But i was getting about 12 to 13 hours on my stock battery.
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http://mobile.buy.com/ibuy/Product.aspx?sku=227247770
1 chargers
2 3500 mA batteries GTMAX battiers
Some extra's
$23.00
Just ordered mine.
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REVIEW:
OK, so I have had this bundle for a while and have done a lot of test on different ROMS and different usage. Here's what my personal experience showed me:
Before full testing I charged each battery and ran till phone shut off on joker's CM9. After battery would was charged I left on charger for another 6 hours. I did this 4 times for each battery.
Common across the board:
1) Battery never became hot
2) Broke one battery door doing battery pulls between ROM installs (bottom seems very flimsy and snapped off. Good thing it comes with 2 battery doors.
3)Battery indicator does not read battery level correctly on any ROM or kernel.
4) I used battery calibration app from market to do calibrate battery ever ever full charge. Same app on each test.
5) Once batteries where full cycled and ready for testing I never used stock battery.
STOCK ROM FINDINGS:
So I returned my photon to completely stock and rooted. No matter what I did when the battery level hit 0% the phone would shut off. I know the battery was not dead and my best estimate is there was over 50% of battery life left but because the battery level was not reading properly the system was seeing it as stock battery and thought it was dead. On average I would get between 6-8 hours of battery life before it would shut off. This was with moderate use.
Also sometimes my battery would go from 100% and drop immediately to 5% after mild use. Don't know why but it started doing this towards the end of the test.
So my findings on stock ROM you won't see much difference in battery life over stock. So if you are only going to run stock I would not recommend to buy this bundle.
JOKER'S CM9 BUILD:
Next I unlocked my bootloader again and installed Joker's CM9 build. Let me just say WOW. With moderate to heavy use I was getting between 32-40 hours of battery life. The battery indicator would hit 0% and didn't shut done till battery died. On average after 12-18 hours I would hit 0% and would remain there till the 32-40 hour mark. This was done with Joker's kernel that comes installed with CM9. I started test on 3.3 and ended test on 4.0.
If you are rooted and unlocked I would highly recommend buying this bundle as you will see and increase in battery life.
MIUI CM9:
So after testing on Joker's CM9 I decided to give MIUI a try. Bettary life was ok. On average I got 12-24 hours of battery life on MIUI with moderate to heavy use. Still better then stock but not as impressive as Joker's CM9. Same thing as Joker's CM9 with battery hitting 0% and remaining there till battery died. Most of the time I hit 0% around the 8 hour mark and remained there till the 12-24 hour mark.
RECAP:
Remeber I did multiple battery calibrations on battery after it was full charged and after every ROM flash. I used only the kernels that the ROMS come with. On stock I don't recommend buying this bundle but if you are rooted and unlocked I recommend buying as you will she an increase in battery life. Your battery will not read properly on any ROM. If this review helps you please don't forget the thanks button. Happy Mopohing everyone.
Review
I have this battery bundle for about 4 months. Been doing some extensive testing on it since then. I am a heavy user and I like everything on the max settings. Max brightness to leaving Wifi, bluetooth, and streaming music for over 8 hours a day.
Before I tried testing it, I had charged it on the included charger for over 8 hours. Each battery. I ran it down until the phone shut off and then swapped out the batteries using the included charger to charge them. I did a Full Cycle Charge about 5 times before I decided to power house them.
Natural Things
Battery became hot when phone became hot.
Battery door is very cheap and is broken. Glad it comes with 2 of them
No matter what ROM and Battery Mod I ran or flashed, the battery indicator displayed 1% for several hours.
No Battery calibration apps worked at all.
I only used the stock in my car for emergency backup when the batteries did die.
Usage
I get about 8 - 12 hours of heavy heavy usage. When I'm not at work or school, (my day's off), I am on my phone all day. I connect to WiFi and brightness is maxed. I stream music the entire time I drive. I use my navigation at least for 30 minutes a day. I am connected to Bluetooth with maximum sound coming from the phone and moderate on the headphones.
I get about 12 - 24 hours of moderate usage. When I'm at school or work, I am on my phone every so often without messing with any settings. I connect to WiFi and brightness is maxed. I stream music the entire time I drive. I use my navigation at least for 30 minutes a day. I am connected to Bluetooth with maximum sound coming from the phone and moderate on the headphones.
Suggestions
I recommend this battery package if you want to use your phone and not be too worried about it dying ever. I swap the batteries out when they die and I haven't seen any problems with it besides the battery indicator and the occasional heating of the phone and battery.
So that's my review on this battery pack. In short, buy it.
Yea. It is massive. Comes with extended battery door.
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So it comes with two of them as well? SWEET!
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Are GTMax batteries safe?
Check out the reviews on amazon
ZeroManArmy said:
Are GTMax batteries safe?
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I don't know about safe, but it looks like the fake McCoy.
User reviews from amazon are TERRIBLE
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I don't know about safe, but it looks like the fake McCoy.
User reviews from amazon are TERRIBLE
amazon.com/GTMax-Standard-Replacement-Lithium-Ion-Battery/product-reviews/B005H47E8U/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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Well I am getting my batteries today. I guess we will see.
Just got mine today. They are charging up....to confirm
2 3500mah
2 battery doors
1 wall charger
1 lanyard
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Just got mine today. They are charging up....to confirm
2 3500mah
2 battery doors
1 wall charger
1 lanyard
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About a 6 hour charge time? Out of box.
MedicStuder said:
Just got mine today. They are charging up....to confirm
2 3500mah
2 battery doors
1 wall charger
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Make sure to give us a review after a few days
dre89 said:
Make sure to give us a review after a few days
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I will as well.
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I will as well.
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I will also. Prolly won't be till end of weekend because of my work schedule. Also I will be attempting to mod my otter box to allow battery to fit. I will post that also.
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Here are some screen shots of what came with it. It came with 2 extended battery doors. They are kinda hard to get off though....
I am running cm9 beta. Charged all night. Just placed battery in phone. Let's give it a go...lol
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Which otter box?
I have the defender which is most likely too difficult to modify ... I'massuming this is a commuter
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Which otter box?
I have the defender which is most likely too difficult to modify ... I'massuming this is a commuter
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nope its the defender.
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You are brave sir, let us know how you managed to do so. I'd be willing to do the same thing
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I am running cm9 beta. Charged all night. Just placed battery in phone. Let's give it a go...lol
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Same. Don't forget we have to do like 4 or 5 full cycle charges to get maximum performance.
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Wow.... XD Sold out! Glad I got mine when ASAP! Lol its an amazing battery so far! Too bad their isn't a case...
quick update
Charged first battery for 12 hours then placed in phone. 8 hours of heavy use then 24 he's light use till dead. Did show 1% during 24 he period. Have first battery charging (taking awhile since at 0%). Running second battery on medium use. First battery gave me 32hrs of use before charging.
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Simply put, I use my phone... ALL THE TIME. I can barely make my battery last 4 hours with all the WIFI and YouTube and texting.
This stock battery just isn't enough. Anyone have a recommendation for the battery with the longest life?
Ofc at a reasonable price.
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I'm sure you can find it elsewhere cheaper.
FYI all the 'extended batteries' that are the same size as stock suck.
It isn't size I want. Photon is slim as it is. I don't mind adding a few mm of thickness for a boss battery
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It isn't size I want. Photon is slim as it is. I don't mind adding a few mm of thickness for a boss battery
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The TREXCELL 3500 is an excellent battery that'll last all day w/moderate to heavy use.
Can't beat the price, approx. $20-$25,might find them even cheaper on eBay or AMAZON right now, saw it for $15 on one of those sites.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23171366
I'm about to post my review for this battery.
I have been using a seidio innocell battery on my photon for the last 3 months. Let me first tell you that I watch a lot of videos on my phone. The 3g is on constantly. Or Wi-Fi. The average times for discharge of battery from 100% to 0% is 16 hrs. Also I don't let my battery go below 5%. So, from personal experience I can say that this is a great battery. But it's a bit expensive. You could try other brands like Hyperion which are cheaper.
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hi, what battery status app you use with the seidio extended batt ?
my battery indicator is not accurate when i use the seidio extended batt
10-Dee-Q said:
hi, what battery status app you use with the seidio extended batt ?
my battery indicator is not accurate when i use the seidio extended batt
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I use battery indicator pro. It displays the battery percentage perfectly.
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I can recommend Hyperion's 3500 mAh batteries, they work great. I have two simply because I may not be able to charge my phone everyday. I'm a very heavy user and never any access to wifi. Each battery can get me through most of a day. I spend my entire day stressing the heck out of my phone. During the few hours going to work, being at work and going home or to another job.
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I can recommend Hyperion's 3500 mAh batteries, they work great. I have two simply because I may not be able to charge my phone everyday. I'm a very heavy user and never any access to wifi. Each battery can get me through most of a day. I spend my entire day stressing the heck out of my phone. During the few hours going to work, being at work and going home or to another job.
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Good to know about the hyperion batteries. Was originally thinking of buying them,but the few reviews that I read were not totally positive. So opted for seidio,which is a little more expensive than hyperion.
How is the quality of the back cover that is provided along with the battery?
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So since yesterday, my seidio battery has been acting very strange. While charging it goes from 50% to 100% in a flash and while discharging also, the same thing happens. Can any once suggest any remedies?
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I was looking around spare battery for my new Note 3 and found some of the same size as original. I had one of those mpj batteries for my previous S3. It probably exaggerate their specs, but still managed to squeeze several hundred more mah and worked good even five months later. Much better than my OEM one out of amazon. Thought it was still worth a roll of the dice to go back to a replacement battery from them. Just received mine yesterday, didn’t measure how much longer but I assume it lasts me 1-2 hrs more before it died.
Edit: I think the battery is still be good condition.
Cheers
ive actually ordered one of these with the added NFC, i hope it goes well. will post here specs also.
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I was looking around spare battery for my new Note 3 and found some of the same size as original. I had one of those mpj batteries for my previous S3. It probably exaggerate their specs, but still managed to squeeze several hundred more mah and worked good even five months later. Much better than my OEM one out of amazon. Thought it was still worth a roll of the dice to go back to a replacement battery from them. Just received mine yesterday, didn’t measure how much longer but I assume it lasts me 1-2 hrs more before it died.
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I've ordered one as well. I'm curious how long it will hold up. How long did it take for shipping?
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I've ordered one as well. I'm curious how long it will hold up. How long did it take for shipping?
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So far seems to be working fine. It took 8 days for note 3 from HK to L.A. :cyclops:
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So far seems to be working fine. It took 8 days for note 3 from HK to L.A. :cyclops:
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Do a full review please. I am also thinking about buying it.
I normally get 5-6 hours of on screen time with stock battery at 60% brightness.
Would it be real? I mean 4500mah in the same size?
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I bought a 4200 mah battery off ebay it was less than the stock battery hopefully that ones at least as good
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Would it be real? I mean 4500mah in the same size?
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It probably adds 10% amount of the new stock battery, but still think it is a good replacement:cyclops:impressive for 20 bucks.
Mine arrived today, its the same size and backcase fits on fine. Im currently charging it up. it came with 57% charge but so far, a episode of the walking dead (40 mins) took 8% battery with full brightness.
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Do a full review please. I am also thinking about buying it.
I normally get 5-6 hours of on screen time with stock battery at 60% brightness.
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I may post my day-to-day usage later Depend on my data, average 6-7+ hrs of on screen time at 70% brightness.
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Mine arrived today, its the same size and backcase fits on fine. Im currently charging it up. it came with 57% charge but so far, a episode of the walking dead (40 mins) took 8% battery with full brightness.
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That sounds not bad
After a night of full charge, i took it off and battery drained 4% in 2 mins 30 seconds. Only had wifi of and did not do anything heavy other than check email. Not good! ill see how i go through out the day,.
Im hoping this will be sorted after a few recharge cycles etc..but i may have to have the stock battery as a backup!
My sister ordered one and it arrived few days ago. Screen on 38% and at 10 hrs she was still at 70% left.
If anyone has this battery or any extended battery please download gsam in the market it will give you the exact voltage of your battery for example see picture. . This is my stock Battery it's low because my phone currently needs a charge but I would imagine that of someone had an extended battery that was fully charge it would give you the accurate mah so we can see what batteries are legit on ebay and amazon and share with our fellow xda users
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i am a heavey user for work, constantly making phonecalls and using web browser, also use maps and need full brightness for the dam sun in Brisbane CBD...
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After a night of full charge, i took it off and battery drained 4% in 2 mins 30 seconds. Only had wifi of and did not do anything heavy other than check email. Not good! ill see how i go through out the day,.
Im hoping this will be sorted after a few recharge cycles etc..but i may have to have the stock battery as a backup!
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What what I recall, with smartphone batteries, the first 15% will always discharge faster. remember, percentage isn't rate.
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i am a heavey user for work, constantly making phonecalls and using web browser, also use maps and need full brightness for the dam sun in Brisbane CBD...
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Im sorry, is this using the said MPJ battery or stock ones? thats a verygood lifetime no?
Will someone include a link to where they bought it? I couldn't find it on Amazon.
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Where did you buy it from ?
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Will someone include a link to where they bought it? I couldn't find it on Amazon.
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Here.Google note 3 mpj battery would lead you to an official website