Decided I better ask for help before digging a deeper hole...
I had rooted my Vibrant around September 2010 and tried some ROM at the time, don't remember which one. I didn't keep it for very long...I accepted one or two stock OTA updates thereafter, ending up with 2.1-update1/KA6.
Fast forward to yesterday, when I decided to try to go to Gingerbread so as to be able to install an app I wanted. I chose CM7.2. I presumed I wasn't rooted anymore after the OTA's, so used CWM to run the update.zip that I still had on the SD card from 2010. I did a Titanium backup. I started following the abbreviated directions, then went to the full directions here:http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Vibrant:_Full_Update_Guide
So I actually made two nandroid backups as a result of switching between the two sets of directions and getting distracted after I made the first one.
All went well, except after CM7.2 was booted and everything restored from Titanium, I had the following issues:
1. Messaging was broken
2. Most contacts were missing
3. GPS wouldn't lock
I poked around for fixes and tried some, but it was not looking promising. I decided I didn't really need that new app after all, and today tried to revert to stock. I supposed it would be a simple matter of a nandroid restore followed by a Titanium restore. Unfortunately the nandroid restore failed.
Research revealed this is a known issue with "different hboots".
I then compounded the issue by accidentally pressing the power button while in Recovery. The phone rebooted but stuck on the "Vibrant" splash screen, because of the corrupted restore attempt. No amount of 3-button resets got me back to Recovery. The phone is now connected to my laptop in Download mode.
I think what I now need to do is odin, per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13132341#post13132341
I will then be able to do a nandroid restore and Titanium restore and be back where I started? Any additional hints, warnings, etc?
Thanks in advance.
Be careful about what you backup with Titanium on stock and then restore on CM. Did you backup your Messaging app or any system data? If you restored system apps or data from a TI backup onto CM from stock, that could cause issues.
And about the contacts, where did you store them before? On Google, SIM, or in memory?
I may have clicked, in Titanium, "restore app and data" rather than just "data" for the messaging app. Thinking that may have been the case, I thought that reinstalling the ROM or Google apps zip files might fix it. It didn't. (this was before I soft-bricked)
Since I needed a working phone this afternoon, I went ahead and did the Odin thing. That went well. I am back to JFD and my contacts are back.
If I do a nandroid restore now, followed by a Titanium restore, it should get me back to where I was before starting the move to CM7.2, right? Except I would still have a JFD radio? (because nandroid does not touch that, as I recall)
In that case, finding a KA6 to install with odin would be best? And would there be any point to the nandroid restore if I did that?
GPS took a very long time to lock after going back to JFD, too. I think perhaps I need to try the antenna fix.
Maybe I will give CM7.2 another go...
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I may have clicked, in Titanium, "restore app and data" rather than just "data" for the messaging app. Thinking that may have been the case, I thought that reinstalling the ROM or Google apps zip files might fix it. It didn't. (this was before I soft-bricked)
Since I needed a working phone this afternoon, I went ahead and did the Odin thing. That went well. I am back to JFD and my contacts are back.
If I do a nandroid restore now, followed by a Titanium restore, it should get me back to where I was before starting the move to CM7.2, right? Except I would still have a JFD radio? (because nandroid does not touch that, as I recall)
In that case, finding a KA6 to install with odin would be best? And would there be any point to the nandroid restore if I did that?
GPS took a very long time to lock after going back to JFD, too. I think perhaps I need to try the antenna fix.
Maybe I will give CM7.2 another go...
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If you do a nandroid restore you don't need to do a TI restore as nandroid will restore all your apps and data. (Even down to which wallpaper you're using and Wifi networks)
If the KA6 modem works best for you then go for it.
Where you rooted before you flashed the CWM update.zip? I didn't see that you were...
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Where you rooted before you flashed the CWM update.zip? I didn't see that you were...
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You don't need to be rooted, you just need a way to install. For example when you install from stock, you don't need to root it, only flash the custom kernel that has CWM, and then flash, since root is a state of the ROM.
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Huh. Always thought you needed root to flash CWM.
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Huh. Always thought you needed root to flash CWM.
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Well, in our case we can use download mode + heimdall to flash a kernel that has the CWM recovery included.
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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d1zturbe3d said:
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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well i dont own a vibrant, but from what ive read ODIN is used to get back to stock or if u soft brick ur phone. go to the rom bible for vibrants and you can find easy instruction on how to use ODIN. and there are numerous videos on youtube showing how to use ODIN.
Good luck man
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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If you have read how to return to stock from a soft brick and are still lost, then I'd say definitely no!
Download Fusion if you do not want TouchWiz, or Bionix if you do. Stick with the stock kernel (for now).
Make sure you have Rom Manager and clockwork recovery working.
install titanium backup and backup all apps + data (I would not bother with system data).
Do a nandroid backup.
Flash your Fusion/Bionix.
If you ever want to go back, just restore your nandroid backup.
( All of these steps are in my signature in much greater detail if needed )
+1 to what s15274n posted.
The first time is always the most nerve-wracking. You've got a great phone, everything works great, & it wasn't cheap. The last thing you want to do is "do something" that might mess it up right? I was in that boat for a while and when I did flash a ROM, I was like..."I was worried why?"
It's pretty simple, I just made sure to sync my contacts/calendar, used AppBrain to sync my apps (you can use Titanium Backup to to this too but I didn't need/want to save any data) and then I was good to go.
I downloaded TGA's One Click Root/Unroot. Then after I made sure SuperUser was installed in the App Drawer I downloaded ROM Manager (Free from the Market), installed it, & ran it.
After that I clicked on ClockWork Recovery inside the app so it would download/install (it's a separate download but dependent upon ROM Manager). After that, I rebooted into recovery from within the ROM Manager. Followed the directions on the menu to perform a nandroid backup then I was good to go.
The directions for installing ROMs are in the beginning of all the ROMs threads plus there's a lot of good information in the Tip & Tricks sticky thread in General and the Team Whiskey site (Home of the Bionix ROMs) has a good writeup.
I tend to stick with the non-Froyo ROMs just because I use the GPS daily and we don't have the GPS drivers for Froyo yet. Eugene's Hybrid & Bionix Fusion are great ROMs to start with. Just pick one with the attributes you like and you won't go wrong.
Hope this helps a bit & have fun flashing,
~SB
Thank you all for your advice and help. I already downloaded Rom Manager and titanium back up all i have to do now is pick a rom and go for it...and i think i will actually pick one and do it later today.
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Flash away my friend. I must warn you that flashing is addictive!!
Always do a Nandroid backup before Flashing. If you screw up, you can always ODIN back to Stock. ODIN is your friend!!
When flashing, I prefer to flash through Clockwork Mod. You can flash through ODIN too but Clockwork is easier.
I would also suggest making sure you can get into Download mode without adb or terminal commands as well.
If you can't then you'll want to check the bible on the method to fix the hardware lock.
Also, if you haven't yet upgraded your phone to JI6, you should SIM unlock your phone (I believe you lose this option when you go to JI6) and backup the folder that has your unlock (should also be in the bible). You may never need it, but it's definitely a nice option to have, especially on a phone that can get the AT&T 3g signal (well, one radio band of it anyways).
Hey guys so I flashed my phone earlier today using the bionix stock rom. Everything went great but then I tried going back to stock using nandroid and my phone ended being stuck at the Vibrant logo screen. After realizing that it was stuck I just went back to the bionix rom. Anyone know why nandroid wasn't able to restore me back to my back up?
Also if I wanted to install another rom would I just download it and install it or would I would have to go back to stock then flash it??
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Sounds like you had the jac or kk kernel, and not the stock.
Nandroid doesn't restore the kernel, so you have to flash the stock kernel before.
Does the stock bionix come with a different kernel? Because I thought my kernel didn't change. I checked before and after flashing and my kernel was the same?
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Nope...stock Bionix is the regular JI6 kernel.
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even if you have the stock kernel of a custom Rom. when you do a nandroid restore your phone will be soft bricked. they say that after you restore, you have to flash the stock kernel too in the recovery mode.
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Aright I guess I need to download the j16 kernel
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This is my first time flashing a new ROM. I decided to go with the stock Froyo ROM. And that went pretty smoothly.
I did the Titantium Backup to restore some of the apps I wanted back. However some settings didn't seem to come over, even though I selected to backup app and system settings. Examples included my phone contacts and my WinAmp playlists (songs are still there).
Anyway, that isn't so much the reason for this topic though. I did a Nandroid backup before and decided to do a restore of that backup. I initiated it from the Rom Manager and got into the Clockwork Recovery and saw it restoring. All appeared fine.
But when the phone rebooted, it is now stuck at the "Vibrant" screen. Has been stuck there for 15-20 minutes now.
I've been looking around. Is the problem because I went from 2.2 back to a 2.1 backup?
Hahaha I had that problem a few days ago, just flash back to stock with odin. Best to try a different rom....
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Starting to think the phone might be bricked. Can't get into recovery mode or download mode. Always immediately comes back to the Vibrant screen. Pulled the battery. Didn't help.
Did you try holding down the volume buttons while putting the battery back in? Had a bit of a brick yesterday and that put it straight into download mode without even showing the vibrant logo.
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Did you try holding down the volume buttons while putting the battery back in? Had a bit of a brick yesterday and that put it straight into download mode without even showing the vibrant logo.
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Thank you! That did the trick. I put the stock Froyo back on via Odin now and am back up again. Whew, Christmas is saved! Thanks.
Try Eugene Ginger Clone is pretty face...I'm currently running Team Whiskey Nero Beta 3...noticed a couple bugs nothing major
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This is my first time flashing a new ROM. I decided to go with the stock Froyo ROM. And that went pretty smoothly.
I did the Titantium Backup to restore some of the apps I wanted back. However some settings didn't seem to come over, even though I selected to backup app and system settings. Examples included my phone contacts and my WinAmp playlists (songs are still there).
Anyway, that isn't so much the reason for this topic though. I did a Nandroid backup before and decided to do a restore of that backup. I initiated it from the Rom Manager and got into the Clockwork Recovery and saw it restoring. All appeared fine.
But when the phone rebooted, it is now stuck at the "Vibrant" screen. Has been stuck there for 15-20 minutes now.
I've been looking around. Is the problem because I went from 2.2 back to a 2.1 backup?
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You were trying to load a 2.1 nandroid restore onto a 2.2 kernal. Nandroid does not restore the kernal so you would have to install one separate from the nandoid if you want to try it again.
in order to restore your nandroid backup you would have to first flash a 2.1 ROM, preferably the one you are restoring from, whenever I am changing versions, 2.2 to 2.1, I always Odin back to JFD and build up from there.
Kernel flashing questions
I have flashed numerous roms but have never flashed just the kernel. Do you flash it just like you would any zip file? Can I use CWM to flash using the flash rom from sd card method? If I decide to not use the kernel I just flashed can I just flash the rom over it(assuming it has its own kernel)? Sorry for all of the questions I have researched it and still do not have a clear enough understanding to try to flash a kernel at this point in time. Any and all help is absolutely appreciated.
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I have flashed numerous roms but have never flashed just the kernel. Do you flash it just like you would any zip file? Can I use CWM to flash using the flash rom from sd card method? If I decide to not use the kernel I just flashed can I just flash the rom over it(assuming it has its own kernel)? Sorry for all of the questions I have researched it and still do not have a clear enough understanding to try to flash a kernel at this point in time. Any and all help is absolutely appreciated.
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Thanks button right next to the quote >.<
I'm used to the quote being on the left.
Anyway, you can flash just the kernel. Check the Development section. There are some out there (Eugene has a bunch as do others). Depending on how they packaged the kernel, you would either flash with CWM or through Odin. The different ROMs typically come with the kernel, so you could just flash a 2.1 ROM and then nandroid back to what you had, or flash just the kernel, then nandroid.
hey mates !!
right umm.. yday i flashed this mod i donno which thread i had picked it up, it was to give wake option to vol down button , ( may be from TSM parts or ed05 posts )
i didnt notice anything at first ( as i was busy at work ) but after like 5 hours i saw that off and on the power wake was actually taking screen shots and also the soft keys started to flash erratically on a number of occasions whenever i was making a call.
TBH i was seeing this behavior from past 3 days as i was trying out eh09, geewiz ed05 and some nandroid backups that i had made in last few weeks , but it kind of got aggravated after the vol wake option mod.
yday night my phone was constantly searching for SVC whereas wife's phone on the same network was doing fine.
Now i have flashed Ed05 stock but i still feel that the issues might come again is there a way to format the file system and kernel changes and stuff.
regards
I've had a lot of the same issues. A data wipe and odin restore seem to help, but I still have some of the same problems. It might just be glitchy phones. Our luck of the draw.
Did both of you restore nandroids?
even if they're recent, I would try backing up your contacts, backup user apps only in TiBu, wipe and re-flash, then reinstall apps only in TiBu...not data, restore contacts, and then go and flash your mod and give it a few days. Of course i'm not positive this will work but I could swear I read on here where some folks had issues even with nandroid restores.
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Did both of you restore nandroids?
even if they're recent, I would try backing up your contacts, backup user apps only in TiBu, wipe and re-flash, then reinstall apps only in TiBu...not data, restore contacts, and then go and flash your mod and give it a few days. Of course i'm not positive this will work but I could swear I read on here where some folks had issues even with nandroid restores.
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X2 agreed!!!
I did not do a nandroid restore, but I'm going to try to do a data wipe using the feature in the menu on the phone rather than on CWR, then re-flash and restore apps only with titanium.
Will attempting to restore my text messages lead to problems? I'll leave that step out this time as well. I love the phone on PWGB with the new voodoo kernel and will not be upgrading until this area gets 4G, which is going to be a while.
I've. Found that trying to do any type of restore, either nandriod or TB will always leave open the possibility for issues. The only reliable way for me has been to re-install apps after a new ROM flash or Odin.
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I use app list backup, that way I'm not really restoring anything but it a very fast way to reinstall fresh from the market.
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Hi
Since a few weeks my phone turnes itself off accidentally, during any operation or just lying lazy on the desk. I had ARHD 6.5 since 6 months or so and I replaced it with 6.7 like 3 days ago, hoping this will solve the problem but it didn't. So I wanna try the stock rom and see whether it helps or not, and if it won't I'll send it to rma. My question is how to recover original soft from nandroid backup, cause I tried and got stuck with bootloop. Do I have to recover the old firmware as well? I found some thread on how to remove clockwork and root, put the phone back S-ON and so on but I would have to recover stock rom first, right? I know I can also flash the stock rom, but the only one I found is not matching perfectly my original one, so I would rather get it back from backup. This phone is just so freaking annoying...
Thanks in advance
You have to boot into custom recovery, be it clockworkmod or another one, then go into "backups and recovery", and from there, restore from backup, then you have to choose your nandroid backup, provided that you have performed it, and select restore (all).
That's it, good luck.
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dagomez99 said:
You have to boot into custom recovery, be it clockworkmod or another one, then go into "backups and recovery", and from there, restore from backup, then you have to choose your nandroid backup, provided that you have performed it, and select restore (all).
That's it, good luck.
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I've done it already but as I wrote before I ended up in bootloop. I think it might be caused by firmware which I flashed in order to install ARHD (Firmware from 3.33.401.6 & 3.33.401.106 RUU). But I don't have any info about the version of previous FW and don't really know if this is the issue.
Anyone? Please have mercy, I'm getting killed by this phone. Help
Hello, I have a major problem with something that should have been a minor project. I used System Recovery to do a backup of the phone. The only thing I can think of there that I might have done differently is save the backup to the external SD card, instead of internal. After the backup completed, I went to reboot the phone and it's stuck on the Motorola splash screen. I tried to pull the battery and go into that general Android Recovery in order to wipe data and try again, but I just get the Android with an exclamation point over his head. I've tried booting it without the SD card too. I was using CM7
Can anyone help please!
EDIT: A couple hours later, since it was my work phone, I had to do something. I reverted the SBF, re-rooted and tried to restore from the backup I made and the same thing happened. I'm going to try to revert to my previous backup. I have a full backup from Titanium Backup if it comes down to it. The phone was working fine, I just can't figure out why it blew up on me after I ran the backup. Grr..
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Hello, I have a major problem with something that should have been a minor project. I used System Recovery to do a backup of the phone. The only thing I can think of there that I might have done differently is save the backup to the external SD card, instead of internal. After the backup completed, I went to reboot the phone and it's stuck on the Motorola splash screen. I tried to pull the battery and go into that general Android Recovery in order to wipe data and try again, but I just get the Android with an exclamation point over his head. I've tried booting it without the SD card too. I was using CM7
Can anyone help please!
EDIT: A couple hours later, since it was my work phone, I had to do something. I reverted the SBF, re-rooted and tried to restore from the backup I made and the same thing happened. I'm going to try to revert to my previous backup. I have a full backup from Titanium Backup if it comes down to it. The phone was working fine, I just can't figure out why it blew up on me after I ran the backup. Grr..
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sounds like a bad backup. i always use external sd for nandroids and it has never had issues.i would just re-flash. as for stock recovery with andy with an exclamation , push both volume keys. should work regardless of what state the phone is in. i have had it completely unusable and it still worked.
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
sounds like a bad backup. i always use external sd for nandroids and it has never had issues.i would just re-flash. as for stock recovery with andy with an exclamation , push both volume keys. should work regardless of what state the phone is in. i have had it completely unusable and it still worked.
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OK - You mean to flash cleanly with CM7 and then restore from Titanium backup instead of my previous nandroid backup?
I'm slightly confused about that System Recovery tool, because first I had ROM Manager and it says that CWM is installed, but it doesn't work. Do I have to manually install that System Recovery APK each time I do stuff like this, or does it stay installed? And if so, from a powered off state, how do you enter it? Or do you have to boot up to Android and enter recovery mode from the app? Thanks.
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OK - You mean to flash cleanly with CM7 and then restore from Titanium backup instead of my previous nandroid backup?
I'm slightly confused about that System Recovery tool, because first I had ROM Manager and it says that CWM is installed, but it doesn't work. Do I have to manually install that System Recovery APK each time I do stuff like this, or does it stay installed? And if so, from a powered off state, how do you enter it? Or do you have to boot up to Android and enter recovery mode from the app? Thanks.
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yes i would try that. second, dont use rom manager. dont delete it either. but it doesnt work on our phone. the bootstrap recovery that you install would only need to be reinstalled if you delete cache in recovery. otherwise it should always work. hope this helps. im not completely sure exactly what you are asking.
try just restoring system part of backup, see if phone will boot, then restore user data
or reinstall cm7 and restore just user data
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try just restoring system part of backup, see if phone will boot, then restore user data
or reinstall cm7 and restore just user data
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I should be fine now, thanks for the advice. I don't know why that backup blew up the phone, but it was sure an inconvenience haha! I just reflashed CM completely, and now I'm gonna roll out my Titanium backup. I don't have a lot of stuff, just the essential stuff for work, so it shouldn't take too long.