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Hi,
Anyone out there with experience of Android updates to older phones and how well they handled it.
I ask because I want to know about the Galaxy S2 and how well we expect Android 4.0 (ICS) to be implemented.
Of course, it will come out at some point, but my primary concerns are whether it will add to the battery power needed burden to make things run smoothly as it will retrofit the S2 hardware.
I also want to know how easy it is likely to be to replace the on screen buttons with the S2 hardware buttons, as this will be a waste of screen space on the S2 if it is still to pop up there above the hardware buttons.
Any help and other thoughts on the matter will be much appreciated.
wyase9 said:
Hi,
Anyone out there with experience of Android updates to older phones and how well they handled it.
I ask because I want to know about the Galaxy S2 and how well we expect Android 4.0 (ICS) to be implemented.
Of course, it will come out at some point, but my primary concerns are whether it will add to the battery power needed burden to make things run smoothly as it will retrofit the S2 hardware.
I also want to know how easy it is likely to be to replace the on screen buttons with the S2 hardware buttons, as this will be a waste of screen space on the S2 if it is still to pop up there above the hardware buttons.
Any help and other thoughts on the matter will be much appreciated.
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To say anything on how it will be implemented on the S2 would be pure conjecture. No one knows yet.
Its still in the middle of being ported/hacked over to our device, with no official Samsung ICS Roms released/leaked yet.
Regarding the 'on screen button' query, it would seem that ICS would detect capacitative buttons, and thus hide the on-screen buttons.
Hi,
First of all i wouldnt class a Galaxy S2 as an older phone, samsung have made a point of holding back on the Galaxy Nexus hardware so it doesnt outdo there own flagship model.
Yesterday, I compared a Galaxy Nexus to my Galaxy S2 running the ICS alpha and was slightly disappointed that the Galaxy Nexus screen didnt look any different to my GS2 both in screen real estate and screen clarity.
I doubt very much ICS will reduce battery life as the hardware acceleration should help matters as there will be less reliance on the phone CPU to draw things the GPU can draw easily.
The onscreen buttons can be easily disabled and dont offer anything that the GS2 hardware buttons dont. If anything the GS2 has the advantage of a menu button which you dont get on the Nexus and until the majority of apps put a software menu button on their apps it's going to cause issues, i thought that the software buttons would be more intellegent and add a menu button for legacy apps but they just seem to stay the same buttons all the time. I know paul o'brian has done a custom mod for this so hopefully google with do the same.
I personnally am happy with my GS2 hardware, the issue for me is software and whether i can wait for 4.0 either official or unofficial.
graemefaulkner said:
i thought that the software buttons would be more intellegent and add a menu button for legacy apps but they just seem to stay the same buttons all the time.
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There actually IS a "virtual menu button" for those apps who use the menu.
But it's rather small and easy to miss.
It's on the far right, looks like three dots above each other, I could use all "old" apps I tried so far with it and effectively not using the "real" buttons at all.
I hope if ROM cooks tend to remove the on-screen buttons, they keep an option to re-enable them, 'cause I really like them
(and they are NOT showing up in the SDK emulator, so it does seem to have some kind of detection.)
ICS does not show the Virtual Buttons on devices with HW Keys.
Thats an absolute, 100% given, please stop discussing about it.
The Galaxy S II has a better GPU and a CPU I'd call Equal with the one of the Galaxy Nexus, also the screen has a way lower resolution, so it might even run smoother than on the Galaxy Nexus,
But what about future apps.....if they are built to a standard 720p resolution, then will the Samsung galaxy S2 suffer then compared to the Nexus which has similar spec - ie do you think we will get new apps that will run better on a 720p screen which looks likely to be more standard in all future high spec phones ?
In my opinion, Galaxy S2 will perform much better on ICS than Gingerbread, considering ICS will actually utilize DUAL-CORE efficiently, rather than just burning battery on two-cores just to work one-core...
It's like XP before & after SP2
wyase9 said:
But what about future apps.....if they are built to a standard 720p resolution, then will the Samsung galaxy S2 suffer then compared to the Nexus which has similar spec - ie do you think we will get new apps that will run better on a 720p screen which looks likely to be more standard in all future high spec phones ?
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You are trying to find a future-proof a device. Well - it ain't gonna work. Technology moves at a quick pace. At most - I can say GSII may work super well with all apps (and games) until a point when it has become the standard for all screen resolutions to be 720p or 1080p or 9040p. This may be in 2 or 3 years.
Besides, an app developer would make their app compatible with all devices UNLESS they intended it to run purely on a certain resolution.
Nexus phone isn't better than the GSII by the way. It just has ICS on it. =/
Thanks for all of you inputs guys.
Sounds like the GS2 will work as well with ICS if not better.
It also comes across that although the screen size if the GS2 is smaller than the GNex, it is more or less cancelled out seeing as the GNex has to use some screen for the virtual buttons at the bottom, wheras the GS2 will not have to use any screen on this.......therefore negating the screen real-estate difference.......right ?
Then it only comes down to resolution between the two.
For a much lower resolution, the GS2 still looks amazing to the eye, which makes me wonder what the real worls advantages will be of the higher resolution screen on the GNex.
Could it be the web page layout or looks when they load up ?
Could it be noticed when playing media ?
I am not sure anymore.
Ideally the resolution advantage comes into play during
1. Browsing, especially while reading small text as very small letters can be drawn accurately.
2. Pictures will be more clearer, especially some wallpapers do ask for more resolution.
3. Video playback
Altogether everything will appear more smooth and clear. So a welcome thing this resolution is. But nexus has pentile display and there are chances this might offset the resolution advantage mainly during text diaplays
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I agree with the last comment to an extent. But we are talking about a phone screen with hundreds of pixels already.
To the normal user in the real world, do you still think that applies ? Ie the text might be a little clearer, but is it not darn clear already on the lower GS2 resolution ?
And wallpapers - even if it was origianlly a 720p picture and the GS2 resizes it, would the average guy out there be able to distingush ?
wyase9 said:
Hi,
Anyone out there with experience of Android updates to older phones and how well they handled it.
I ask because I want to know about the Galaxy S2 and how well we expect Android 4.0 (ICS) to be implemented.
Of course, it will come out at some point, but my primary concerns are whether it will add to the battery power needed burden to make things run smoothly as it will retrofit the S2 hardware.
I also want to know how easy it is likely to be to replace the on screen buttons with the S2 hardware buttons, as this will be a waste of screen space on the S2 if it is still to pop up there above the hardware buttons.
Any help and other thoughts on the matter will be much appreciated.
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Here http://t.co/RzNWJWcQ , Have a look how stock ICS looks and works on GSII. And all this is done without any driver source code. Imagine how quick it would be when samsung does ICS with proper drivers.
At least Samsung confirmed they will release ICS to S2. When? That's a different story... Probably late next year.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Does anyone else wait for the new Optimus L7 II (P710)?
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/lg-optimus-l7-2-1133186/review
Dual-core Qualcomm MSM8225 Snapdragon 1GHz, Adreno 203, 4.3 inches display, 8 MP camera, 2460 mAh battery.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_l7_ii-5275.php
Especially the battery impresses me. Samsung Galaxy S2 got an improved optional power battery 2000mAh
Hopefully the P710 will get Cyanogenmod, because it seems to have standard Qualcomm hardware. And hopefully the price will be similar to the very cheap P700...
http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/3185856_-optimus-l7-lg-electronics.html
$205 sim-lock-free, off-contract.
AW: LG Optimus L7 II (Optimus L7 2) P710
Yes, I'm waiting for it. It should replace my old LG Optimus One p500.
The size (4.3") is not to big, the battery sounds good, it has NFC and Sd-Card and Jelly Bean. Does anyone knows the release date in Germany?
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i have got that phone last week... descent battery in standby mode.... but major problem is 4 touch buttons doesnt have backlight....
zeu55 said:
i have got that phone last week... descent battery in standby mode.... but major problem is 4 touch buttons doesnt have backlight....
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I was very interested in getting this phone, but now... im dissapointed.. f***n lg why they must **** up every phone they made... My friend have p880 HD 4x and phone doesnt have LED notifications... unforgivable for almost top LG phone
zeu55 said:
i have got that phone last week... descent battery in standby mode.... but major problem is 4 touch buttons doesnt have backlight....
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I asked on the german amazon website and got an answer.
You can turn the backlight on and off in the settings.
http://www.amazon.de/review/R3OEC1D...d=Tx1027Q7LJO1FGL&store=ce-de#Mx27URUB5LDID25
Another question: Is rooting possible yet.
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Guys, have you tried optimus l7 II DUAL ? ( p715 )
when you talk on one sim, will another one go out of reach for who call to it ? or both sims are always active ... ?!!!
glimmling said:
I asked on the german amazon website and got an answer.
You can turn the backlight on and off in the settings.
http://www.amazon.de/review/R3OEC1D...d=Tx1027Q7LJO1FGL&store=ce-de#Mx27URUB5LDID25
Another question: Is rooting possible yet.
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well in the settings there is nothing to make touch key backlight on. if u can show the procedure will be grateful
zeu55 said:
well in the settings there is nothing to make touch key backlight on. if u can show the procedure will be grateful
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I don't own the phone yet, but you see the backlight at 1:32 in this unboxing video:
The video is from the same person, who told me in the amazon-comments, that it's possible.
You could ask him in the Youtube-comments. He wrote, that he is open to questions and ideas.
glimmling said:
I don't own the phone yet, but you see the backlight at 1:32 in this unboxing video:
The video is from the same person, who told me in the amazon-comments, that it's possible.
You could ask him in the Youtube-comments. He wrote, that he is open to questions and ideas.
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You're goddamn right
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well thats because its l7 p710 . not the l7 p715 dual.. both are slightly different models my friend.
The first poster is talking about the p710. My reply too.
Om thinking about selling my P700 when the LG Optimus 7 II comes out for my country ( netherlands ), but i will atleast wait until root acces is posible
Sent from my LG-P700 running on CM10.
glimmling said:
The first poster is talking about the p710. My reply too.
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both are basically same model with p715 having dual sim. else configuration is same.
I know it's still fresh phone, but are there any news about rooting, unlocking and android development for P710? I couldn't find no information about it yet. Hopefully it will not prove to be dead end. Solid hardware and large battery should provide nice starting point for a great phone.
BoxedIn said:
I know it's still fresh phone, but are there any news about rooting, unlocking and android development for P710? I couldn't find no information about it yet. Hopefully it will not prove to be dead end. Solid hardware and large battery should provide nice starting point for a great phone.
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I found this in a russian forum:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D449418%26st%3D340&usg=ALkJrhhA3Y4nCn-VHJSkwtrTc3atIuilnA#entry21733927
The rooted kdz-file is for the p713 and I don't know, what is the difference to the p710 (languages, basebands?).
I got this phone last week, but there are some issues, and I'm not alone with them.
Overheating: the display-brightness goes automatically to 61% after some minutes of usage outside in the sun
it often losts the mobile reception, when the usb is plugged in for charging
it losts my legally paid Play Store apps after a reboot (wrong mounting?). this is only for a few users, for me too
So there is some effort, excellent. Thanks for finding this.
As for the problems stated it seems like some software issue to me, even if it is hardware related it is too big of a problem not to be rectified by manufacturer.
L7 P710
BoxedIn said:
So there is some effort, excellent. Thanks for finding this.
As for the problems stated it seems like some software issue to me, even if it is hardware related it is too big of a problem not to be rectified by manufacturer.
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I got my phone 4 days ago, same day came out update to 10D (europe region hungary) so I was on original 10A just few minutes , none of the issues exists. I have only small problem,
back cover is not good as it was on L7 P700, or on the P715 (the dual sim version) the back is slick so it will probobly collect some scratches soon, but the everything else is much better, screen is more responsive than on 4X, camera is excelent, gps lock is faster, battery backup is better than P700 on ICS , quick translator is nice addon.
Regards,
Pepe
properties: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_l7_ii_p710-5275.php
Actual Android for this phone is only JB 4.1.2.
ROOT by Framaroot 1.4.1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1952450&d=1368232060
KDZ file: http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=21
FLASH Any LG Factory ROM (kdz): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36351786
Service manual (english): http://ulozto.cz/xmshmZKw/lg-p710-svc-eng-130313-rar
Hidden menu - in dialer input: 3845#*710#
Factory hardware reset = button power + volume down + button home.
emergecy mode - remove the battery, push button: volume down + Power + Insert USB cable
Recovery mode - hold volume up + home button + power button, after a while (to see the logo that disappears and flashes the Back button and menu), release Power button and continue to hold the volume up and home button
Can anyone provide?: ClockworkMod (CWM), CyanogenMod (CM10.1 or later) or other ROMs, unlock bootloader, or something useful for this phone???
Great post, it should be sticky.....
I have bought this phone yesterday, and all i can say it is amazing! Speed, display quality, angle of view, camera...
Pictures are great at full dark, flash is very powerfull, colors are so freaking natural.
UI Speed amazing! I couldnt belive it. Jelly Bean and the Butter Project are realy doing their purpose. I have put on Nova Launcher, and it is so smooth. Other, settings scrolling, Phonebook scroling, etc, etc, is also very smooth.
This phone also has Face unlock, smart screen lock ( Like Galaxy S III, it locks itself when you are not watching it), NFC, Android Beam and so on...The only thing it doesnt have is HDMI. But, i dont realy need that, because i have VGA connection monitor But it would be great to watch pictures on HDMI at 1920 x 1080 LED Screen
I was deciding between L7 II and Alcatel OneTouch Idol (I dont know which Idol, there are milion versions, LOL, but it is dual core with 1GB of RAM). And when i was testing them, Alcatels camera is worse than LG's, even though Alcatel supposingly has HDR :/
Further more, Alcatel has 4.7 inch display that is about 11.9 cm compared to LG's 4.3 inch (10.9 cm), and it has bigger resolution (because of the bigger screen DUH), but in fact, Alcatel's display looks a little like your old T-Shirt that was being washed 75 times Colors are not so natural like on LG, even though both have IPS LCD screen. But, dont get me wrong, that Alcatel is an amazing phone for the price of 2500RSD (about 23 euros) a month in VIP Mobile network. The main thing that pushed me away from Alcatel is 1800mAh battery that supplies 4.7 inch screen :/
That's a little low, you will agree with me...But further more, it cant be removed from the phone! i.e. user cant replace the battery if it dies...And maybe that could not be a problem, if Alcatel had a good SUPPORT! But, they dont have it, i had an alcatel OT before...So, if my battery dies, i cant replace it, i have no mobile phone store that can replace the battery instead of me. In either way, it is impossible to change it. It is not like on Iphone, there you have Apple store and, services on any corner and you can do what ever the F*** you want...
So the sum is, people that are thinking to buy this phone, dont think furthermore, go to the store and buy it!
So... Due to a low budget.. I've decided i'll settle up to buy a 2nd hand One X+
Which is why i'm asking u the people who have it.
Is it still worth a shot? In my range i can get an SIII (but my brother has one and I LOVE SENSE )... or the 1 gig ram is a bit out of its league?
If YES to the above question.... Then i would have to HAND PICK the One X+ from the market 2nd hand... So... Here are my "tests" to check the faults of it (so i can get a PERFECT WORKING phone) .. You see here in Pakistan. People play around with their devices and then sell them off when they're broken... About 80% of the case :/
So here are my tests PLEASE TELL ME IF U WANT ME TO TEST SOMETHING ELSE THAT I HAVE LEFT.
1. Androsensor (app) - for the sensors and their function.
2. Record a video and tap both mics to see if the other is working (saw alot of them having bugs here)
3. Display tester (app) - put it on FULL BRIGHTNESS and check the buggy display.
4. Manually check the scratches etc.
5. Check whether its disassembled or not (how do i do it? :/ )
6. Any other of u suggest
Thank you for ur time.
WasifSal said:
So... Due to a low budget.. I've decided i'll settle up to buy a 2nd hand One X+
Which is why i'm asking u the people who have it.
Is it still worth a shot? In my range i can get an SIII (but my brother has one and I LOVE SENSE )... or the 1 gig ram is a bit out of its league?
If YES to the above question.... Then i would have to HAND PICK the One X+ from the market 2nd hand... So... Here are my "tests" to check the faults of it (so i can get a PERFECT WORKING phone) .. You see here in Pakistan. People play around with their devices and then sell them off when they're broken... About 80% of the case :/
So here are my tests PLEASE TELL ME IF U WANT ME TO TEST SOMETHING ELSE THAT I HAVE LEFT.
1. Androsensor (app) - for the sensors and their function.
2. Record a video and tap both mics to see if the other is working (saw alot of them having bugs here)
3. Display tester (app) - put it on FULL BRIGHTNESS and check the buggy display.
4. Manually check the scratches etc.
5. Check whether its disassembled or not (how do i do it? :/ )
6. Any other of u suggest
Thank you for ur time.
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First, check if the phone lags, i.e., the lock screen should pop up with less than under 1.5s or 2s. If that happens, it means that the CPU is able to cope with the previous owner's usage and is still in a good shape. Multi-task apps. If the phone stutters during multi-tasking, put it down and test out another X+. DO NOT BUY THE S3! The S3 uses a processor which will lag over time. I've tried and I know it. Good Luck!:fingers-crossed:
ace_viknesh said:
First, check if the phone lags, i.e., the lock screen should pop up with less than under 1.5s or 2s. If that happens, it means that the CPU is able to cope with the previous owner's usage and is still in a good shape. Multi-task apps. If the phone stutters during multi-tasking, put it down and test out another X+. DO NOT BUY THE S3! The S3 uses a processor which will lag over time. I've tried and I know it. Good Luck!:fingers-crossed:
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Thanks alot can you please answer a few more would really appreciate it
1. I've heard there's this Wi-Fi problem with the One X+ devices (or was it the One X?). That the antenna on the back casing wasnt stable and rigid... However the newer versions had the problem fixed.. Is there any way to check the build version? of the HARDWARE.?
2. The "Screen Flickering"? It was fixed in the newer versions... Or is it that the display becomes old?
You are wrong sir
The s3 has a better gpu and software under the hood
Also the s3 will get better support and faster (and more updates)
+ it has a better camera
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panwala95 said:
You are wrong sir
The s3 has a better gpu and software under the hood
Also the s3 will get better support and faster (and more updates)
+ it has a better camera
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Yeah but my brother also has one his stuff is practically mine actually xD
So i was considering something other than the SIII
Any ways
Back to those 2 questions
WasifSal said:
So... Due to a low budget.. I've decided i'll settle up to buy a 2nd hand One X+
Which is why i'm asking u the people who have it.
Is it still worth a shot? In my range i can get an SIII (but my brother has one and I LOVE SENSE )... or the 1 gig ram is a bit out of its league?
If YES to the above question.... Then i would have to HAND PICK the One X+ from the market 2nd hand... So... Here are my "tests" to check the faults of it (so i can get a PERFECT WORKING phone) .. You see here in Pakistan. People play around with their devices and then sell them off when they're broken... About 80% of the case :/
So here are my tests PLEASE TELL ME IF U WANT ME TO TEST SOMETHING ELSE THAT I HAVE LEFT.
1. Androsensor (app) - for the sensors and their function.
2. Record a video and tap both mics to see if the other is working (saw alot of them having bugs here)
3. Display tester (app) - put it on FULL BRIGHTNESS and check the buggy display.
4. Manually check the scratches etc.
5. Check whether its disassembled or not (how do i do it? :/ )
6. Any other of u suggest
Thank you for ur time.
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go to dialler and dial *#*#3424#*#* and run all the tests. Please press thanks button if i helped you :laugh::good:
Which device to get threads are not allowed because they would become subjective and it wouldn't help anyone (as it has already started to become). As far as testing goes, the responses given should suffice. Any other issues with the phone can be found in General. Thread closed.
Hello oh wise developers and people alike,
Having read that double tap to wake was "brought to life" for a couple of older devices, I was curious if that functionality could be "unlocked" for the ZU as it is available for "similar" Sony devices as well as a feature in Lollipop 5.0.
Being kernel and hardware related, I would figure that the ZU could handle both.
Any experienced advice would be great!
Thank you!
I suspect @blueether, and @DooMLoRD could be of assistance in yay'ing or nay'ing this possibility.
TREMER said:
Hello oh wise developers and people alike,
Having read that double tap to wake was "brought to life" for a couple of older devices, I was curious if that functionality could be "unlocked" for the ZU as it is available for "similar" Sony devices as well as a feature in Lollipop 5.0.
Being kernel and hardware related, I would figure that the ZU could handle both.
Any experienced advice would be great!
Thank you!
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I second this. Double tap to wake should be standard on every smartphone these days. Its the first thing I'd like to make it works on new devices. Would love to hear more about it developed for Z Ultra from XDA Developers. In the meantime, I'm using sensors/ proximity apps to wake the screen. Those apps work well enough for my ZU but the price to pay is high battery consume comparing to kernel wake method.
Let's hope for the good news.
Hi there, i write this thread to ask you if there is a way to have OPO features like double tap to wake the phone when he is in deep sleep, or the V shape when phone is locked to light the torch, the circle to launch the camera etc... Or even CM11S ? (I don't really know what is exactly CM11S but as we already have a stable CM11 on the S3, i supposed it could be possible ?)
A freind of me have a OPO and i'm just "in love" with this pretty handy features. I wish we could have them too.
up.
No its not possible since our hardware does not support it. There is no big difference between cm11 and cm11s. Btw it's the same reason why things like double tap to wake like the Lg g2/3 don't work