AT&T's Titan using T-Mobile 3G in US!!! - HTC Titan

I'm a Mobile user my AT&T's Titan can receive 3G or H at some area in Bellevue, WA! The place I known is Bellevue Square & Overlake Hospital for sure. Does anyone know other places can receive T-Mobile 3G signal on other carrier's phone?
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ballgate said:
I'm a Mobile user my AT&T's Titan can receive 3G or H at some area in Bellevue, WA! The place I known is Bellevue Square & Overlake Hospital for sure. Does anyone know other places can receive T-Mobile 3G signal on other carrier's phone?
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There isn't an exact list of where T-Mobile is re-farming/ using AT&Ts 3G spectrum for now.

Not in Kirkland, WA.
Guess they're experimenting on a tower by tower basis, or maybe in very specific areas.

tai4de2 said:
Not in Kirkland, WA.
Guess they're experimenting on a tower by tower basis, or maybe in very specific areas.
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Getting sporadic 4G in Bellingham, WA with Titan II and a T-Mobile SIM card.

PauerSource said:
Getting sporadic 4G in Bellingham, WA with Titan II and a T-Mobile SIM card.
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T-mobile has announced a major change in their upcoming "Uncarrier" plan and while I was at my local kiosk the folks in there showed me a refarming map of our area which is identical to the same area that is now HSPA+. As soon as this is complete it won't matter whether you're using a T-Mobile SIM card on the Titan. This too is setting T-Mobile up to sell the iPhone 5.

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[Q] A question about AT&T / T-Mobile 4G

Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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Its true. While both AT&T and T-Mobile use HSPA+ for their "4G" speeds, they run on different bands. If you want 3G/4G, use a T-Mobile phone. Otherwise, enjoy EDGE. Opera Mini with images set to low will be a big help.
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
ernestdefoe said:
From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
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Yep, but sucks that they still charge minutes when I call a T-Mobile number. I'm switching it for my girlfriend, so I can get Unlimited mobile to mobile minutes... I might get a sensation when I switch to T-Mobile
Phoneguy589 said:
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
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Good job on the misinformation front.
And also not being helpful, I'm going to assume your in sales and don't actually know anything.
Now on to the OP's question.
T-Mobile uses the same type of technology as AT&T however they operate on different bands. As such most devices that are sold on AT&T will be able work on T-Mobile for phone and edge but don't get 3g or hspa+ due to the radio in the device only supporting some of the bands. Which is why as a general rule AT&T phones such as the iphone, will work on T-Mobile if unlocked but can't use 3g because it doesn't have the ability to operate in the correct MHZ range. Its the same going from T-Mobile to AT&T. My HD2 was awesome, other then the slow data. *Not that my atrix or inspire are much better.
There are exceptions to the rule though. You'll have to check to see which bands the Atrix is capable of using. I know some of the Samsung devices had all the GSM bands so they worked fine on all networks.
the answer is NO the atrix will not work on tmobile USA 3G or 4G network. there, done!
tomcklam said:
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
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Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
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AT&T said Monday that it planned to convert T-Mobile's 3G towers to 4G service and move T-Mobile 3G subscribers to AT&T 3G phones.
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gnahc79 said:
Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
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They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
CaelanT said:
They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
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Agreed, sorry I used the term 'flip', never meant to say it would happen instantly . The article I linked stated the switch would take several years. That's not written in stone though, AT&T could move up the timeline if they are losing too many customers to Verizon and Sprint.
This is only an issue if you plan on keeping your tmobile 3g phone for YEARS, which is not likely for anyone that frequents xda .

Titan t-mobile users

This question is for the t-mobile guys that have their AT&T phone unlocked. Do you guys pick up "H" icon on your display or does it go into 3g or just stays at "Edge".
And if no, what APN's or settings did you use to bypass the "Edge" network.
And for the folks that say "use the connection app" I've done it, which is why I'm here.
Anyone have trouble getting 3g/4g speeds on their debranded AT&T phones via other carriers?
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No Titan variant anywhere has support for the 1700MHz band ("AWS") T-Mobile USA uses for their UMTS services.
T-Mobile is re-purposing some of their 1900MHz spectrum for UMTS; once that happens in your area you may get 3G/H on your Titan. Until then you will not.
tai4de2 said:
No Titan variant anywhere has support for the 1700MHz band ("AWS") T-Mobile USA uses for their UMTS services.
T-Mobile is re-purposing some of their 1900MHz spectrum for UMTS; once that happens in your area you may get 3G/H on your Titan. Until then you will not.
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Thanks for the feedback.
I am sorry bro. I was like the few first people who own the International Titan and use it with T-Mobile Bands, I stucked at EDGE/2.5G for all the time before i switched to AT&T so look like you are out of luck.
Sorry.
I can confirm that it is rolling out as we speak, I have the TITAN 2 from ATT using a Tmobile sim and i often get the 4G signal, this started about 5 days ago (September 5th) in the Maryland, Washington DC area. I even tested the connection speed and got a 0.2 Mpbs which actually allowed me to stream netflix on the phone. I was so happy to see that 4G hopefully it can be permanent soon. otherwise I always get the E (edge) slow speed.
davemaster said:
I can confirm that it is rolling out as we speak, I have the TITAN 2 from ATT using a Tmobile sim and i often get the 4G signal, this started about 5 days ago (September 5th) in the Maryland, Washington DC area. I even tested the connection speed and got a 0.2 Mpbs which actually allowed me to stream netflix on the phone. I was so happy to see that 4G hopefully it can be permanent soon. otherwise I always get the E (edge) slow speed.
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It will probably be a while before NYC sees it.
someeh said:
It will probably be a while before NYC sees it.
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According to tmobile's blog (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/09/10/t-mobile-steps-up-bring-your-own-iphone-efforts/), " we’re already starting to turn up 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum. With sites already live in cities like Seattle, Las Vegas, Washington DC and the New York metro area..."
Works up here in Seattle.
ody360 said:
According to tmobile's blog (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/09/10/t-mobile-steps-up-bring-your-own-iphone-efforts/), " we’re already starting to turn up 4G HSPA+ service in our 1900 MHz spectrum. With sites already live in cities like Seattle, Las Vegas, Washington DC and the New York metro area..."
Works up here in Seattle.
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I'm in the city and still see 2g on my phone =(.
Under Settings -> Cellular -> Highest Connection Speed, did you set to 3G? Otherwise maybe it hasn't reached your part of the city yet... Tmo forums are pretty set on having the majority of the country covered by Q4 so a few more months I guess...
ody360 said:
Under Settings -> Cellular -> Highest Connection Speed, did you set to 3G? Otherwise maybe it hasn't reached your part of the city yet... Tmo forums are pretty set on having the majority of the country covered by Q4 so a few more months I guess...
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I hope so, and yes I had checked and it's selected for 3g.
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someeh said:
I'm in the city and still see 2g on my phone =(.
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Lucky y'all!!! There's this big ol donut hole in the state of Georgia and we're in it...No 3G...3.5G...imaginary (AT&T) 4G...and worse...AT&T has their Titans throttled back on Cat 8 so nothing to write home there. I'm returning to T-Mobile at the end of the month and keeping my Titan...and I'm more than aware it will only run on EDGE until T-Mobile "completely" reforms 1900 so all you folks in the big cities; you live in small town USA; it might as well be never. Wherever there's WiFi...the phone is a dream to use but no amount of flashing the Titan is going to change the fact it will only run on 2G if you have either the Straight Talk (T-Mobile) SIM card or T-Mobile SIM card in it...bottom line is T-Mobile is 1700 and a few of us won't see 1900 until we're dead.
berrywr said:
Lucky y'all!!! There's this big ol donut hole in the state of Georgia and we're in it...No 3G...3.5G...imaginary (AT&T) 4G...and worse...AT&T has their Titans throttled back on Cat 8 so nothing to write home there. I'm returning to T-Mobile at the end of the month and keeping my Titan...and I'm more than aware it will only run on EDGE until T-Mobile "completely" reforms 1900 so all you folks in the big cities; you live in small town USA; it might as well be never. Wherever there's WiFi...the phone is a dream to use but no amount of flashing the Titan is going to change the fact it will only run on 2G if you have either the Straight Talk (T-Mobile) SIM card or T-Mobile SIM card in it...bottom line is T-Mobile is 1700 and a few of us won't see 1900 until we're dead.
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I've hit 3g+ in the NYC area, typically in the lower west side of Manhattan. I guess it's slowly making it's way up.
I experienced T-Mobile 3G on a Titan in Redmond, WA yesterday. Got about 2.8Mbit download.
On AT&T I usually get about half that.
Denver 4G
Looks like T-Mobile is doing something in SE Denver right now. I'm starting to see 4G light up on my AT&T Titan phone.
Keep going T-Mo!
someeh said:
This question is for the t-mobile guys that have their AT&T phone unlocked. Do you guys pick up "H" icon on your display or does it go into 3g or just stays at "Edge".
And if no, what APN's or settings did you use to bypass the "Edge" network.
And for the folks that say "use the connection app" I've done it, which is why I'm here.
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If your Titan I is unlocked, download Advanced Configuration 1.5 and within it you can toggle either 3G or H. That said, as T-Mobile refarms their GSM 1900 band, those cities will be able to use their AT&T Titans on 3G/H. It is expected to be in most T-Mobile markets by the end of 2013. I would encourage you to check out TMo News web page at www.tmonews.com for where they are rolling their high speed 1900 band out.
There is spotty 4g service in the NYC metro area now. It would be nice if it was where I reside at lol. I can deal with the wait. It's so much fun having 4g speed on the titan though.
someeh said:
There is spotty 4g service in the NYC metro area now. It would be nice if it was where I reside at lol. I can deal with the wait. It's so much fun having 4g speed on the titan though.
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Be lucky and happy then; we live in a donut hole in West Central Georgia (US) and there is no T-Mobile service here and where there is AT&T and what remains of All-Tel after Verizon Wireless and AT&T got of what Verizon Wireless had to divest; there is no 3G or H and where my kids live in Opelika, AL, not AT&T but T-Mobile and no 3G there. Auburn-Opelika I doubt is big enough to get the refarmed 1900 H band anytime soon. Though none of these carriers mind us paying for it anyway; amazing how that works; they ***** about some folks using their data up but do you think they charge those on EDGE less; nope!

Visiting US, need right modem

I have a I9100 that I usually use the XXLPS modem from Germany on. However, the strongest signal I am getting is edge in the US using T-Mobile USA, where I know they have H+. Can anyone tell me which modem I should use?
shiboby said:
I have a I9100 that I usually use the XXLPS modem from Germany on. However, the strongest signal I am getting is edge in the US using T-Mobile USA, where I know they have H+. Can anyone tell me which modem I should use?
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It won't matter which modem you use.
You'll only get HSPA+ in SOME markets on T-mobile in the US on this phone. The majority of their network only uses the AWS band for H+, which this phone doesn't receive one of the two required frequencies.
They have been re-farming the 1900mhz band (which this phone DOES receive) for H+, but that has only happened in a relatively small number of markets.
Try to set your phone on AT&T, maybe that network will do better.
ctomgee said:
It won't matter which modem you use.
You'll only get HSPA+ in SOME markets on T-mobile in the US on this phone. The majority of their network only uses the AWS band for H+, which this phone doesn't receive one of the two required frequencies.
They have been re-farming the 1900mhz band (which this phone DOES receive) for H+, but that has only happened in a relatively small number of markets.
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Damn, that sucks. I don't suppose you know which markets these are.
beN.. said:
Try to set your phone on AT&T, maybe that network will do better.
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I'm using a T-Mobile USA sim card, so I think I need to use T-Mobile USA
shiboby said:
Damn, that sucks. I don't suppose you know which markets these are.
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Sorry, sure don't. I'm on AT&T.
shiboby said:
I'm using a T-Mobile USA sim card, so I think I need to use T-Mobile USA
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He meant to ditch the T-mobile SIM, and get one for AT&T. The phone gets H+ on all of AT&T's network.

HTC One T-mobile prepaid, no 3G?

I recently got a T-MO version the One, and signed up for the $30 prepaid plan. First time on this. I never see a "3G" signal icon on top, it's either 4G or 2G. Does the prepaid plan not offer 3G service??
I was under the impressive that the 1900MHz refarmed areas have 3G. I'm in the Seattle area and saw on the map that there's plenty of coverage around for it, but as I said above, I have never seen "3G" on my phone.
Can anyone clear up my confusion? Thanks!
T-Mobile calls their HSPA+ service 4G. People in other parts of the world see a 3G or H or H+ icon when they have what T-Mobile calls 4G. So that's how it's supposed to work. It's not like you see 3G over PCS and 4G over AWS; they're the same thing and both show up as 4G on the stock T-Mobile ROM.
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T-Mobile calls their HSPA+ service 4G. People in other parts of the world see a 3G or H or H+ icon when they have what T-Mobile calls 4G. So that's how it's supposed to work. It's not like you see 3G over PCS and 4G over AWS; they're the same thing and both show up as 4G on the stock T-Mobile ROM.
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So in layman's term? Cause today I noticed today that my phone had 4G and then 2G.
Evolancer13 said:
So in layman's term? Cause today I noticed today that my phone had 4G and then 2G.
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Think he's just saying that you won't see it called "3G" on the phone, because they market it as 4G.
My next question would be then, is there a difference in what you get with the 1700 and 1900MHz bands. Or are they the same 4G signal on different freqs?
Joshnor713 said:
Think he's just saying that you won't see it called "3G" on the phone, because they market it as 4G.
My next question would be then, is there a difference in what you get with the 1700 and 1900MHz bands. Or are they the same 4G signal on different freqs?
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That's a good simple explanation, thanks. It's all about the marketing. I usually refer to t-mo/att 4G HSPA+ as "faux-G" as a joke.
There's no theoretical difference between different frequencies. Practically speaking, there could be differences in congestion or coverage, but those are harder to evaluate obviously. Assuming a strong signal on either band, I'd expect them to perform more or less equivalently.
Joshnor713 said:
Think he's just saying that you won't see it called "3G" on the phone, because they market it as 4G.
My next question would be then, is there a difference in what you get with the 1700 and 1900MHz bands. Or are they the same 4G signal on different freqs?
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The refarmed 1900 band is limited to 21 Gb download. The HSPA+ on 1700 / 2100 allows 42 Gb download.
stevedebi said:
The refarmed 1900 band is limited to 21 Gb download. The HSPA+ on 1700 / 2100 allows 42 Gb download.
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With the prepaid plan, do you get access to both? I'm hoping that because it's a cheap plan, you don't get only the slower signal.
they dont do like AT&T does, you get access to LTE too, trust me i have to test the sites we get on air.

Unlocked Lumia 920 On tmobile prepaid

Since unlocking my AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 early May for the first time ever I seen LTE on my phone. I was driving from the Philadelphia Int Airport to close to center city Philadelphia and looked at my phone LTE. Amazing. Did use app speedtest.net but results are not lte speeds. Roughly 5meg down and 7 meg up so that is inconclusive. While on lte my email was not working it kept asking for passcode. Then closer to I476 at I95 I was back on 4G.
Is tmobile testing 4G in Philly market now? More interesting I have the regular firmware 1314 on this phone no modification.
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neftv said:
Since unlocking my AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 early May for the first time ever I seen LTE on my phone. I was driving from the Philadelphia Int Airport to close to center city Philadelphia and looked at my phone LTE. Amazing. Did use app speedtest.net but results are not lte speeds. Roughly 5meg down and 7 meg up so that is inconclusive. While on lte my email was not working it kept asking for passcode. Then closer to I476 at I95 I was back on 4G.
Is tmobile testing 4G in Philly market now? More interesting I have the regular firmware 1314 on this phone no modification.
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could be im in the bay area and i get lte ranging to 15mbps too about 25mbps when it sayd 4g anywhere from 7mbps to 14mbps i had the LTE APN for t mobile that allowed data to work while on LTE i did have an issue at one point
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could be im in the bay area and i get lte ranging to 15mbps too about 25mbps when it sayd 4g anywhere from 7mbps to 14mbps i had the LTE APN for t mobile that allowed data to work while on LTE i did have an issue at one point
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what APN's are you guys using? i have a Rogers 920, and can't for the life of me get MMS to work at all! haha, (I'm on T-mobile prepaid)

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