I am on Appdroids latest ICS Objection with the UCLF 5 modem. Really like it.
On my previous setups of ICS I put on setcpu and startup manager. Evem though its not overclocked I figured it will help with battery life and screen off.
On startup manager I used it to prevent programs from starting up not a task manager.
Now I don't have startup manager installed yet and I'm debating if it really helps with battery life. I go to task manager and the used memory is about the same as when I had startup manager supposedly blocking programs.
So I don't know what others setups are like or if anyone has experience with startup manager.
What abput the built in power saver mode ?? Does anyone use it? I have and then quit. Battery life seems a little better with it enabled.
I don't notice any lags or anything negative with the apps enabled or disabled.
I of course am lookimg for battery life.
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Startup manager is exact name of program?
I use an app called Autostarts to keep programs from starting, namely my corporate email, but I can't say I've ever noticed a battery savings. As far as power saving mode goes,c an't say I've ever tried it either to be honest. I'm on AOSPxXx .6A and it seems to give me pretty good battery life, but then again I don't use ti too much during the day.
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Yes. I believe Dec is imoblife. Its in the appbstore. I had bought the regular version.
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I don't know what the deal is but this is continually happening to me and across different roms. I am using the built in "Task Manager" feature of touchwiz to monitor what processes are using my cpu. I am finding that some things are sitting there using between 15-45% cpu at all times even when in the background. For example:
Today right before my lunch I checked the task manager, I stared at it for 2 minutes to make sure there was no cpu activity, when I saw that everything looked to me normal I clocked out for my lunch and left work. By the time I was done eating (my phone had been in my pocket the entire time by the way) I checked my phone to see what time it was and noticed that I had lost about 12% battery life in 30 minutes. I immediately opened task manager and found that Browser was in the red and running at a constant 45% cpu usage. I immediately exited the browser. I find that this is happening with other apps as well.
What could be causing this? And more importantly will ICS fix it?
Interesting. Browsers are always killing it for me.
For example I use Dolphin Browser. The ad-dons like Google services and tab switcher kill battery like a mother and also put a ton of CPU stress on the processor.
Only thing I can say is make sure to close out all apps because apps running in a background may run rampant.
Yeah that shouldn't be happening.
I do hope a feature is implemented into android to have a 'do not run list' unless opened by user.
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Interesting. Browsers are always killing it for me.
For example I use Dolphin Browser. The ad-dons like Google services and tab switcher kill battery like a mother and also put a ton of CPU stress on the processor.
Only thing I can say is make sure to close out all apps because apps running in a background may run rampant.
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What I've resorted to is closing all web pages when im done and backing out of apps that I know have started to run out of control sometimes. There has to be an easier way though.
What about times like today when im researching something and have to run out for lunch and just throw my phone in my pocket with 8 browser windows open? I have to go back and find all the pages because I had to close them all out in fear that my battery would drain?
There has to be a better way. I switched to android bevaseu of the horrible memory management apple has. I would hate to leave android beacuse it couldnt control backgournd processes and let my battery be destroyed.
Memory management is good on these phones. Bad memory management causes slow downs.
What you're looking for is app management. I know some may jump on the me for saying anything about a task manager, but you might want to try one out.
Though I'd only recommend using it for the programs you're having issues with. Set it to 'only' kill the problem apps. Not any other apps or system processes.
What browser are you using? If it's happened across multiple roms, it may be an issue with that browser. Better to treat the problem (the app) than the symptom (battery getting drained)
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Memory management is good on these phones. Bad memory management causes slow downs.
What you're looking for is app management. I know some may jump on the me for saying anything about a task manager, but you might want to try one out.
Though I'd only recommend using it for the programs you're having issues with. Set it to 'only' kill the problem apps. Not any other apps or system processes.
What browser are you using? If it's happened across multiple roms, it may be an issue with that browser. Better to treat the problem (the app) than the symptom (battery getting drained)
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Well see its happening with the same apps across different roms so I know its either an android problem or a touchwiz problem. Can you reccomend any apps that will auto close apps if they start using too much CPU or an app that would allow auto kill on exit? Thank you.
There's not any apps like that, at least yet. Task killers kill whether the app is using alot of cpu or not.
What apps are causing you issues? Have you compared what apps you have on your phone to entropy512's thread about known battery drainers?
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There's not any apps like that, at least yet. Task killers kill whether the app is using alot of cpu or not.
What apps are causing you issues? Have you compared what apps you have on your phone to entropy512's thread about known battery drainers?
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I remember seeing that thread somewhere before but don't know how to find it again.
Can you reccomend any task killer apps?
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My favorite with my captivate was auto task manger. When you first open it, it tries to get you to update but the update is garbage.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mizusoft.autotaskmanager&hl=en
I haven't used one with my sgs II. Hasn't needed one so far.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
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My favorite with my captivate was auto task manger. When you first open it, it tries to get you to update but the update is garbage.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mizusoft.autotaskmanager&hl=en
I haven't used one with my sgs II. Hasn't needed one so far.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
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Thank you, I will read through this.
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dumb question guys
i saw the thread regarding freezing the bloatware and i don't wanna mess with my phone. right now I'm having a great battery life by just doing the task manager and all my apps are in the list for auto end list for 2mins. it works really good. i have my 4G on all the time and 40% brightness.
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What do you mean by "great battery life "? Because ending tasks all day long is a pure waste of juice, considering some of them restarts just after beeing killed. You've created an infinite loop...
Task killing is almost always the worst possible option. Freezing is the best way to get rid of an app when you can't uninstall it (by choice or because it's part of the rom).
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task manager kills apps 2 minutes after screen off. freeze does away with them altogether. completely different.
I'd use task manager for browser, market, and other RAM hungry apps. If I froze them I wouldn't be able to use them at all
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What do you mean by "great battery life "? Because ending tasks all day long is a pure waste of juice, considering some of them restarts just after beeing killed. You've created an infinite loop...
Task killing is almost always the worst possible option. Freezing is the best way to get rid of an app when you can't uninstall it (by choice or because it's part of the rom).
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I believe he means the one auto built into blur/gingerbread. Not that placebo app
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this is by far the easiest, most secure and even more practical way i have found to reduce/eliminate battery drain on atrix or any other android device.
its an app called Bataria.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jappka.bataria&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5qYXBwa2EuYmF0YXJpYSJd
install it, its free, and modify a few settings for your own taste. its even a task manager, although i dont use task managers.
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this is by far the easiest, most secure and even more practical way i have found to reduce/eliminate battery drain on atrix or any other android device.
its an app called Bataria.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jappka.bataria&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5qYXBwa2EuYmF0YXJpYSJd
install it, its free, and modify a few settings for your own taste. its even a task manager, although i dont use task managers.
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so is it better than Juice Defender ?
yup. i tried juice defender but didnt kind of make it, also watchdog lite which worked for a while but then it didnt. right now im a little over 22 hours of use and with 52% left on battery. i also use setcpu just for Screen Off profile.
What do you put your settings at? I was having terrible battery life before and just flashed to 2.3 and a new rom, so hoping things will improve on their own. just wanna make sure i'm not using way different brightness settings etc than most everyone else or something
Tried this app but i still found JD more effective .. i guess it depends on usage .. but this app is a little worth download
Thanks for the suggestion. Still finding JD Ultimate o be the king though. Its all about micromanagement if you want x2.0+ savings.
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Do we need them?
Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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I herd that it slows your phone because you kill like chunks of the android software and you make it load back up again so its slower and makes your battery die quicker.
I can't explain in technical terms, but basically the Android OS is different than say Windows on your PC, where you don't really want to have a bunch of processes running in the background. It actually optimizes performance to have it loaded in the memory, and by killing it you only make your phone work that much harder to either load it when you want to use it, or when it continues to load itself into the memory a short time later.
When I first got my smartphone, someone recommended Advanced Task Killer to me as a battery saving tool, but I never noticed any improved battery life. If anything, the constant checking and killing of tasks made me use the phone more and drained the battery faster.
I'm using go launcher and it has the option of killing running tasks, and once you do, you can leave the phone untouched and come back to it 20 mins later, all those programs are back up and running, so I don't even bother with killing them, just leave it all running. I've never noticed an improvement with battery life either, or noticed any lag with a bunch of apps running in the background.
Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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First off most task killers are just bs.
The real way to stop tasks from sucking up your memory and or slowing your phone is exactly what andy said.
Dl titanium back up pro, and "freeze" or (with caution of course)
Remove them.
Most apps restart any ways so it a waste.
Check your permissions, see what your also are doing im the background, and shut off what you don't like or want.
I use go launcher/locker(sorry about my lil ics joke...lol) as well and that task killer is just like the others...worthless. lol.
I have found that the task killer by gannicus is ok, but again what's the point when **** just reboots ..
Hope that helps
Well, I use htcs task manager to close the browser because if even if you click back to exit it, it still stays open, but that's pretty much it
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I use
1. Go launcher which is instead of sense
2. Go TaskManager widget. it is awesome.
3. root uninstaller to delete the crap.
4. Autorun manager to stop the apps that I don't need them to run when I reboot.
5. There is another one is more simple than the first one . it's startup manager
Note: 3,4, and 5 starts when you reboot so to stop that use Autorun manager to stop startup manager and use startup manager to stop Autorun manager and root uninstaller.
Sometimes you don't like some apps to be deleted but they are annoying because they start with the system, so use 4 and 5
I use both of them because each one has its own ability.
Do Not Shut the apps that are important to not brick your phone.
Use it on your own risk
I can explain in technical terms...you should never use them...task killers kill tasks which android OS will spend time restarting, by doing this, your battery and CPU will get used more and you will actually find your phone laggier and running out of battery faster....
I have lots of applications on my phone that need to have their permissions modified...
But I use them to see what crapware is starting itself for no good reason.. Sorry deja but if your app loss itself for more than 2 minutes twice a day?... It's crapware...
My phone my rules... I don't want something running unless I request it... I'm willing to wait for it to load if its goona run smoothly... this is the standard tradeoff quick load or smooth running... But if I haven't used WhatsApp in 3 days why does it run constantly regardless of settings??.. It's crapware
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I have tried many options to try and anazlyze the best optimization for battery life out of my galaxy note 2 ..I noticed that when I was getting almost 2 days of battery life was when I had power saving mode enabled and I also had nova launcher installed but than I got to thinking that I wanted to give Touchwiz more of a chance because it is actually quite fluid and the animation is nice at 1x or .05x ...I was reading in threads that some users were not using power saving mode because it takes away from the beast of performance the note 2 possesses ...So my question is unlike other battery saving threads im not necessarily want pictures of your usage I want scenarios of what you ( the community of note 2 users) do to optimize and save battery life .... I will say that I am using cleanrom 3.5 I had 4.0.5 but I did not like that it took away some of the functions I liked ...So Ultimately I just want some advice on how to save battery life I have sync disabled and gps disabled but I keep google now enabled because its awesome ..I just need some advice and reccomendations please help im tired or buying apps that promise to save battery life only to find that they dont do much the most recent app I am trying and it sounds promising is DS Battery Saver and it seems promising because it actually turns off all background applications and wifi and data but wouldn't that do more harm than good to turn off background apps ,wifi and data ..
Have you ever thought about buying a bigger battery?
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Yes I have considered but I feel that I would like to try and explore the current options available to me seeing so many positive posy by other members saying there getting lots of battery life just out of the box without upgrading the battery, the battery on this thing is huge ,3100 ma ...Are these people keeping power saving mode on to gain the extra battery difference because I do notice a huge improvment in battery life when I put it in power saving mode but im thinking the people that are getting two days of battery life out of there device do not have power saving mode enabled
Not only that but I see screen time on some guys are at 8 hours screen time and still have like 50% battery or 6 hrs and have 68% battery thats insane ...I used my phone heavily today I had screen time on for about 6 hours and about two hours of phone calls and than alot of tweaking and trying options so restarting the phone drains the living crap out of this beast...So maybe ill try minimal use tomorrow and see what happens maybe ill see a difference I dont want to have to use ds battery saver most battery saving apps are crap claiming to help but in actually run in the background monitoring everything so it only enhances the battery draining issue or your phone will not go into deep sleep
I disabled haptic feedback. Keep the screen on auto.
Flashed perseus and am using a overclock/undervolt profile for stweaks from the thread that is here in general. There is a stweaks guide and stweaks profile thread if your interested.
Went through and froze or removed all startup and running services I didn't need. No sync apps that don't use push.
Anyway, that's what I did and get pretty good battery life.
Betterbatterystats isn't bloat either. It's pretty crucial if you want to troubleshoot power issues. I've used that as a reference for everything
In the end though, batteries are cheap. You can get 2 ankers and a charger for 20 on Amazon and they are great quality.
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Yes I am definitely intrested in sweaks Ive never heard of it and as far as freezing apps no problem there I just am afraid that if I freeze apps like Google Maps than my Google Now will not properly work I dont snyc anything if I want to sync I do it manually but im not familiar with what you mean by push ? Also i feel to under skilled when it comes to freezing certain background apps like Google Maps I noticed alot or the bulk of my battery drain comes from Location settings I have most of my apps not location enabled but if I were to say freeze google maps wouldnt that effect how Google Now operates ?
Also do you use a certain browser that uses less battery or is that a bit overboard I use mainly stock browser but I also have google chome because its fast and simple I use stock browser when I need to watch flash content and I use chrome when I want things simplified but I find myself using google chrome less and less I heard Opera makes a very nice simple browser ..What browser do you use most often for battery life or does it not matter much ...Oh and if you could possibly send me the link to stweaks I would greatly appreciate it ...
Thanks
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Yes I am definitely intrested in sweaks Ive never heard of it and as far as freezing apps no problem there I just am afraid that if I freeze apps like Google Maps than my Google Now will not properly work I dont snyc anything if I want to sync I do it manually but im not familiar with what you mean by push ? Also i feel to under skilled when it comes to freezing certain background apps like Google Maps I noticed alot or the bulk of my battery drain comes from Location settings I have most of my apps not location enabled but if I were to say freeze google maps wouldnt that effect how Google Now operates ?
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You can get an app called juice defender. You can set it up to turn wifi/data/bluetooth/gps off when you turn the screen off. You can set schedules to sync emails and other apps every 5, 10, 15, 30, or 60 minutes.. I have the pro version so I can control my entire phone..
If location settings is draining your battery, turn GPS off.
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So do you also keep power saving mode on your note 2 enabled ? or do you keep that off ..Also is there a video tutorial on how to use Juice Defender properly because I never fully understood some of its features do you have just the basic juice defender, the plus or the ultimate im only asking because I want to know if having juice defender plus will do the trick or do i need the ultimate to take full advantage ?
I only ask this because I already have juice defender plus on the note 2 but I have yet to use it on the note 2
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So do you also keep power saving mode on your note 2 enabled ? or do you keep that off ..Also is there a video tutorial on how to use Juice Defender properly because I never fully understood some of its features do you have just the basic juice defender, the plus or the ultimate im only asking because I want to know if having juice defender plus will do the trick or do i need the ultimate to take full advantage ?
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I leave my power saving off when I use my phone. Ultimate juice defender has all of the features you need. I don't know of any videos, but I know how to set it up, just ask your questions.
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Okay I'll give it a go so do you experience any battery drain in a 8 hour Window that's typically how long I sleep I was just curious Edgar percentage is lost within 8 hours with phone on deep sleep
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Okay I'll give it a go so do you experience any battery drain in a 8 hour Window that's typically how long I sleep I was just curious Edgar percentage is lost within 8 hours with phone on deep sleep
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I lose a percent about every 3 hours. Maybe 4.
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Are you able to tailor jd to work for you during the day as well I already juice defender plus is that enough or would you say get the ultimate ?
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What I mean during the day is when you have your phone on (on screen time ) are you able to signifiicantly reduce your anount of battery drain
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Do you know if juice defender ultimate works with rooted galaxy note 2
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Do you know if juice defender ultimate works with rooted galaxy note 2
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I use it. Works fine with root.
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Do you use the ultimate ? And also have you heard of ds battery saver alot like juice defenfer you can pick and choose which apps you want to run in the background I am only having a problem with network location locator but than I realized if I disable in location settingd wifi and data enabled than my accuweather touch wiiz widget does not update
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Do you use the ultimate ? And also have you heard of ds battery saver alot like juice defenfer you can pick and choose which apps you want to run in the background I am only having a problem with network location locator but than I realized if I disable in location settingd wifi and data enabled than my accuweather touch wiiz widget does not update
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Apps running in the background don't use battery unless they sync a lot. You should be able to manually set location in weather apps.. and juice defender ultimate has the ability to set night schedules, control brightness, cpu, gps, network modes, etc. I have mine set up to sync apps every 30 minutes and then keep data and wifi off. You can also set traffic limits up too, so when the screen turns off, you can have data/wifi stay enabled if you are downloading something.
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If I am using the stock weather and time widget that comes on the galaxy note 2 is it a signifigant amount of battery saving if I have it set to just one location and if you dont mind me asking how do I set it up for it to be set to one lication also if I have weather showing on the lock screen with that use even more battery I mean if its running than it shouldnt effect it if I have it on lock screen and home screen...My last question is regarding location settings that seems to be my biggest battery drain. I like using google now but I noticed if I disable in location settings data and wifi I save a ton of battery life ...I was trying to figure out how to disable maybe certain apps that are tracking my location or if I should just disable wifi and data location but than google now doesnt perform properly
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