Before I begin, Mods, PLEASE pin this. I (when I was a noob) had absolute difficulty installing ROMs. This is very noob-friendly, fixes Status 7 errors, and is easy to follow.
Alright friends and future flashers. I used to have difficulty installing ROMs. Now that I know how (after going through numerous tutorials), I'd like to make it easy for ALL of you. Enjoy your Custom ROM!
Before beginning, you need Android's SDK,Flashtool and The latest Official firmware.
If ever your phone needs to install drivers, let it install, don't unplug the phone or whatever.
And, battery at least 30%. Mine does it at even 20% without issues, but just to be safe.
Step 1: Revert to Stock
You don't need to downgrade. After flashing the latest stock kernel, I have flashed every single GB and ICS ROM in existence without issues, so you don't need to flash a specific one. But, latest one tends to be more stable. Here's what you do:
Get the latest Global ftf for your phone. Then, flash it using Flashtool. I won't go into specifics, but PM me if needed
By Now, you should have a stock EVERYTHING. Boot up the phone, run through the whole set up process. Once you are done, you need to get your IMEI number. Do this by following the steps here.
In the end, you should have the bootloader unlocked. If you come up with something like bootloader already unlocked, then you are good to go. Now onto......
Step 2: Preparing your Flash.
Download the ROM of your choice. I'd recommend FXP's Unofficial CyanogenMod9 as it has the best stability and no ICS Multitouch issues. If it is GB, any ROM will do. Most of them are stable.
Now, in the case of CyanogenMod, they often come with their own custom Kernel. It is in the zip file, known as boot.img, and you simply extract it to your platform-tools folder in the android-sdk folder you downloaded to unlock the bootloader. This is also true for some MIUI ROMs I've come across. Read their forum posts for more info on which kernel to use.
Copy the ZIP file to your sdcard. It does not have to be the root of SDcard, anywhere will do.
By the end, your Custom ROM's ZIP file will be in your SDCard, and the kernel file (a.k.a. boot.img or whatever_the _kernel_name_is.img) will be here:
32bit Windows: C:/Program Files/Android/android-sdk/platform-tools
64bit Windows: C:/Program Files(x86)/Android/android-sdk/platform-tools
Now we can
Step 3: Flash your Custom ROM
In the folder above (depending on OS version) press Shift+RightClick. Options will show up. Select "Open Command Prompt Here". A Command Prompt will open (duh).
Turn off your phone. Wait 10 seconds. While plugging in your phone, press the Menu button (the Right button). The LED Indicator should turn blue. This shows your in fastboot mode. If it starts to boot, rip out the battery and try again. DON'T STOP PRESSING UNTIL IT TURNS BLUE.
Now, type EXACTLY AS FOLLOWS, ONE AT A TIME. Just type in the lines with the "-" before it, but don't put in the "-" when typing it. The line underneath in brackets is an explanation, so you understand what is happening.
-fastboot devices
(This is actually a quick test I do to see if my phone is connected in flash mode or not. If nothing happens, it is not in flash mode or the drivers are installing)
-fastboot flash boot boot.img
(This is telling fastboot to FLASH the BOOT partition of your phone with the file specified. If you are using a different kernel, simply replace boot.img with the name of the kernel, ending with .img and wait for it to finish. Won't take long)
-fastboot reboot
(This causes the phone to reboot)
Now, while it is starting up, keep repeatedly pressing the Volume Down button until you are in ClockWorkMod Recovery (Assuming you are using it. CWM is the most popular and most kernels use it) Then, If you choose to, make a backup. I personally don't, as it is not too big an issue and I never revert to an old ROM anyway.
After that, choose Factory Reset. This will remove ALL data in your phone except your Stock ROM. Then, Clear Cache. You might've noticed it already did that when you Factory Reset, but this is for safety. Finally, in advanced, Wipe Dalvik-Cache and Wipe Battery Stats. I do this all the time for safety.
Now, the fun bit. GO to Install ZIP from SDCard. Select Choose ZIP, find your ROMs ZIP file, and install. It might take awhile, but not too long. Just be patient. When it finishes, flash anything else the ROMs forum post says to flash (Gapps, Patch, etc) and select Reboot Phone.
Step 4: Done!
Your phone will start up. First time is always slow, but this WILL WORK. Congratulations. You now have a Custom ROM
If you get a Status 7 error while flashing a ROM, reboot recovery and wipe everything again. If that doesn't work, flash official firmware and try again.
Credits to:
-Google: Providing Android SDK and Gapps
-Androxyde: Flashtool
-Madfysh: List of Official ICS ROMs
FXP: Creating CyanagonMod9
-And YOU!
P.S.: If you're confused, or feel this could use something extra PM me.
And uh, if it needs to be moved, please do so. Thanks!
I do know there is THIS but I felt some of his steps were unnecessary. Example, rooting. Any custom ROM will be rooted, so there will be no need to worry about that. And he also provided overclocking tips and an unofficial bootloader unlock which are hazardous and potentially permadamaging to the phone.
PLEASE Don't spoil the mood man!!
This is a development section where even Noob Devs know how to flash a Custom Rom!! PLeaseee Pleaseeee ... Move it
Alright man. How would I move it? Cause, I only RECENTLY started being active on the forums.
Jass5991 said:
I do know there is THIS but I felt some of his steps were unnecessary. Example, rooting. Any custom ROM will be rooted, so there will be no need to worry about that. And he also provided overclocking tips and an unofficial bootloader unlock which are hazardous and potentially permadamaging to the phone.
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Don't say that thread is unnecessary; they put everything in one thread cause it's easy to find. the first step we should do is rooting if we are noops. Then we will be curious about unlock or custom rom later.
Sent from Xperia Neo using AOKP B40
Still dev thread so if you don't know how you should not be trying
It goes like this no dl link no thread
but still is a good post
some unnecessary parts
some dodgy parts
But good for noob never-ending Questions
Maybe Q&A
Reck1993 said:
Don't say that thread is unnecessary; they put everything in one thread cause it's easy to find. the first step we should do is rooting if we are noops. Then we will be curious about unlock or custom rom later.
Sent from Xperia Neo using AOKP B40
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Okay. I will add an easy rooting instructions to it.
kormatoes said:
Still dev thread so if you don't know how you should not be trying
It goes like this no dl link no thread
but still is a good post
some unnecessary parts
some dodgy parts
But good for noob never-ending Questions
Maybe Q&A
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Thanks kormatoes. Could you gimme some of the unnecessary/dodgy parts?
Jass5991 said:
I do know there is THIS but I felt some of his steps were unnecessary. Example, rooting. Any custom ROM will be rooted, so there will be no need to worry about that. And he also provided overclocking tips and an unofficial bootloader unlock which are hazardous and potentially permadamaging to the phone.
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1) actually that(which you linked) tutorial is good, it just need some updating. but your tutorial is different than that.
2) root is certainly not unnecessary! not all people will go for custom roms, specially as most of them are for unlocked BL.
3) unofficial unlock is not hazardous, it is tricky, but it paid of if we look on the advantage against official unlock
Nice from you that you wrote all this, it's based only for custom roms's, thread which is already sticked is for basic things, which any noob should know.
But still, this looks kinda cluttered, and from noob(which you intend this to) point of view, to long/complicate to read
Madfysh said:
1) actually that(which you linked) tutorial is good, it just need some updating. but your tutorial is different than that.
2) root is certainly not unnecessary! not all people will go for custom roms, specially as most of them are for unlocked BL.
3) unofficial unlock is not hazardous, it is tricky, but it paid of if we look on the advantage against official unlock
Nice from you that you wrote all this, it's based only for custom roms's, thread which is already sticked is for basic things, which any noob should know.
But still, this looks kinda cluttered, and from noob(which you intend this to) point of view, to long/complicate to read
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Thank you all big guns
but there should be a start-up kit for newbie
There can be a Starter Section with due permission
lalit387 said:
Thank you all big guns
but there should be a start-up kit for newbie
There can be a Starter Section with due permission
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As it is, I am attempting to code a batch file to automatically run the entire flashing process, including kernel and ROM. Having a small issue where it does not wipe dalvik and cache. It also doesn't flash the custom ROM
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This is my first tutorial for installing Cyanogen Mod 7.2.0 on Live With Walkman WT19i. All credit goes to the developers who made all the following and related tools. I simply put together info from various sources. Admins/moderators are welcome to make any changes.
WARNING: Proceed at your own risk! I am not responsible for bricked phones! You might want to do some more research if you're unsure or don't fully understand anything from below
Requirements: ADB drivers:
http://www.mediafire.com/?6u1zl54w3jnvvax
Fastboot drivers:
win_usb.inf file from http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
Android SDK(unlocking bootloader):
http://developer.android.com/sdk/
Flashtool(flashing kernel):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351309
Zergrush(for rooting):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=784296&stc=1&d=1321435888
Clockworkmod Recovery(flashing ROM):
http://www.mediafire.com/?73xv18tht0e8zt4
WT19i_4.0.2.A.0.58 firmware:
NOTE:Enable "USB DEBUGGING" from Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Development
>Enable "UNKNOWN SOURCES" from Menu -> Settings -> Applications
1) If you're already on official ICS, downgrade to Gingerbread, root Gingerbread and then install other custom ROMs as follows:
2) Flash any Android 2.3.4 firmware (I've tried this method only with the WT19i_4.0.2.A.0.58 firmware though) using Flashtool
->Select Flashmode, Wipe data, Wipe cache
3) Use Zergrush v3 by DoomLord. Works well with 0.58 version
If Superuser app has been installed, rooting is successful.
4) Install ClockWorkMod Recovery 5.0.2.7-nAa-r2(Ported by [email protected])
5) Make a backup in recovery mode. (see below for howto)
6) Install Android SDK Manager
If Google USB Driver is not visible, install Android SDK Tools Rev 20 first, reopen SDK Manager.
Replace android_winusb.inf-file in extras\google\usb_driver folder with the new one on http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
7) Unlock bootloader officially from: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
Instructions on that page are pretty clear.
NOTE: Unlocking the bootloader the official way will void your phone's warranty and DRM keys will be lost. You may want to use the testpoint method as mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
8) Download Cyanogenmod 7.2 for WT19i (=coconut version) and place it on your SD card.
9) Ensure that the fastboot drivers are installed.
10) Replace stock kernel : Extract boot.img from the Cyanogenmmod 7.2 ZIP file that you downloaded. Now, in Flashtool, select Flash button > Fastboot mode > Select kernel to Flash > Point it to the boot.img file you extracted. Check log in background window for success.
11) Restart the phone into Recovery. Select Wipe data/factory reset followed by Wipe cache partition followed by Advanced>Wipe Dalvik cache.
Then, install zip from sdcard. Select the coconut 7.2.0. ZIP file you placed here earlier.
Wait for about 5-10 minutes. If you're worried, open Command Prompt, navigate to the fastboot folder and run adb logcat to see what's happening!.
And that's it, you're done!
(If the logging process looks like it's repeating itself for more than 10 minutes, remove battery restart phone, and see if Cyanogenmod now boots up(again, will take ~5 minutes). If it does not still boot(rare case), repeat step 10. Make sure you download the CM ZIP package from your computer)
If you get an 'assert' error (Status 7 error) then, edit the file updater-script in your cm7.2.0 ZIP file\META-INF\com\google\android\. Remove only the first line (ending with a . Now repeat step 10 again.
Extra: To use Google services, you need to flash the gapps.zip similar to the way you did CM 7.2. However, do NOT wipe cache do NOT wipe data or anything! To install, simply boot into recovery, install zip from sd card and choose the gapps ZIP file. Later, Restart phone
How to enter recovery mode on the WT19i:
Turn off phone. Turn it on again. As soon as you see Sony Ericsson logo, keep tapping Volume Down button repeatedly. (Once you are familiar, you'll realize that even 1-2 presses can do the trick)
You do not need to root and install Recovery in the first place, I mean skip steps 3, 4 and 5.
Backup can also be made in the same recovery, which is included with kernel, right before wiping and installing the ROM.
I would just install any Android 2.3.4 firmware, then unlock bootloader, install custom kernel, backup, then wipe, then install.
And if you unlock bootloader officially, then do not forget your phone's warranty will be void and DRM keys lost.
If you succeed with official bootloader unlock, then fastboot drivers are already installed, no need to worry about that
And before ppl go crazy - First boot does take a while, as all the caches need to be recreated.
This tutorial can also work for other custom ROMs aswell, because the process is the same, the only different thing is the kernel and the .zip file.
You do not need to root and install Recovery in the first place, I mean skip steps 3, 4 and 5.
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Right I meant that to install CWM!
I would just install any Android 2.3.4 firmware, then unlock bootloader, install custom kernel, backup, then wipe, then install.
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Right except that I had problems with using Zergrush v2 and v4. That's why I thought I'd mention.
If you succeed with official bootloader unlock, then fastboot drivers are already installed, no need to worry about that
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Yes, but that would entail downloading the android_winusb.inf-file from the mentioned official site, wouldn't it?
And before ppl go crazy - First boot does take a while, as all the caches need to be recreated.
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Oh, but how common is it for a WT19i to take more than 10 minutes at boot? I did this on two other friends' WT19is; both of them took around 3 minutes. (Obviously i did something wrong the first time on my phone)
Anyhow,thanks for the constructive comments!Editing it accordingly!
blackstallion1234 said:
Right I meant that to install CWM!
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You do not need CWM in the first place. You can make the full Nandroid backup AFTER flashing custom kernel and BEFORE wiping and installing the ROM.
blackstallion1234 said:
Right except that I had problems with using Zergrush v2 and v4. That's why I thought I'd mention.
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You don't need root to be honest.
blackstallion1234 said:
Yes, but that would entail downloading the android_winusb.inf-file from the mentioned official site, wouldn't it?
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What's your point? If you unlock the bootloader official way and it succeeds, you do not have to deal with the drivers anymore, as they have been installed properly and they're working
blackstallion1234 said:
Oh, but how common is it for a WT19i to take more than 10 minutes at boot? I did this on two other friends' WT19is; both of them took around 3 minutes. (Obviously i did something wrong the first time on my phone)
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I didn't mention about minutes. Some ppl are not aware of that, so it was just a small note for them.
You do not need CWM in the first place. You can make the full Nandroid backup AFTER flashing custom kernel and BEFORE wiping and installing the ROM.
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Right! The custom kernel would provide a recovery (which isn't present on a stock kernel for our phone), right?
You don't need root to be honest.
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I shall edit the title to something like 'Root and install CM...' where I express the opinion that rooting does have advantages too!
blackstallion1234 said:
Right! The custom kernel would provide a recovery (which isn't present on a stock kernel for our phone), right?
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Custom kernels already include recovery and stuff needed for root.
blackstallion1234 said:
I shall edit the title to something like 'Root and install CM...' where I express the opinion that rooting does have advantages too!
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Rooting is already included in custom ROMs, if not then custom kernel does the job and roots it automatically. You don't need to root it by yourself
didn anyone tried latest nightly
There is a stable rom for LWW listed on the cyanogen mod downloads page. Is it really stable? I'm asking this because when you select 'all' and 'stable' on left panel on that site, there is no stable rom listed for lww! This is very confusing.
hsrbnr said:
There is a stable rom for LWW listed on the cyanogen mod downloads page. Is it really stable? I'm asking this because when you select 'all' and 'stable' on left panel on that site, there is no stable rom listed for lww! This is very confusing.
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Yes the version of CyanogenMod 7.2.0 listed on their site is stable and indeed the one used in this thread for reference. Click coconut in the left hand pane(that's the codename for LWW) and then selecting stable. (Alternately just go to http://get.cm/?device=coconut&type=stable)
I just installed Cyanogenmod today and it's fantastic!
Do i need to unlock my bootloader?
Hi,
I've rooted my phone (Sony Ericssion Live With Walkman-WT19i) and right now running stock ICS ROM from sony (build: 4.1.B.0.431). Even Clockworld Mod is installed. I want to install custom rom from cyanogenmod(or any other custom rom).
My question is : Do i really need to unlock my bootloader,coz as I know rooting may void the warranty but unlocking the bootloader will surely void it.
Please tell me the detailed process of installing custom rom step by step (right after the successful rooting and installing CWM process). I woould be thankful if u include both the process(with and without unlocking bootloader,if any).
Thank You Very Much In Advance.
Could You please mail me the steps even to my persoanl mail id [email protected]
sauravsagar said:
Hi,
I've rooted my phone (Sony Ericssion Live With Walkman-WT19i) and right now running stock ICS ROM from sony (build: 4.1.B.0.431). Even Clockworld Mod is installed. I want to install custom rom from cyanogenmod(or any other custom rom).
My question is : Do i really need to unlock my bootloader,coz as I know rooting may void the warranty but unlocking the bootloader will surely void it.
Please tell me the detailed process of installing custom rom step by step (right after the successful rooting and installing CWM process). I woould be thankful if u include both the process(with and without unlocking bootloader,if any).
Thank You Very Much In Advance.
Could You please mail me the steps even to my persoanl mail id [email protected]
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You can't install CM with locked bootloader it requires different kernel.
Yes you need to, for CM!
sauravsagar said:
I want to install custom rom from cyanogenmod(or any other custom rom).
My question is : Do i really need to unlock my bootloader,coz as I know rooting may void the warranty but unlocking the bootloader will surely void it.
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Yes, most custom ROMs need the bootloader to be unlocked(including CyanogenMod). There are two methods to unlock your bootloader - the test point method and the official method. If you're concerned with your warranty(which may already have been voided), use the Test point method described in the FAQ by Someguyfromhell.
And what ^ said.
Please tell me the detailed process of installing custom rom step by step (right after the successful rooting and installing CWM process). I woould be thankful if u include both the process(with and without unlocking bootloader,if any).
Thank You Very Much In Advance.
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If only people read FAQs on forums...
thanx a million
thanks a million for the tutorial
this thing rocks
i do love this rom
and most nice thing it dose support ad-hoc
wathbiknight said:
thanks a million for the tutorial
this thing rocks
i do love this rom
and most nice thing it dose support ad-hoc
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Glad it worked for you! Not to be a thanks-whore, but it's just a click away if I really helped ya!
Cheers!
Might be a foolish question but I flashed some custom firmware on my Samsung Star (not Android) back in the days and only had the English language available instead of the Dutch I wanted.
If I root and install the ROM will everything also be available in English only or will I still be able to use Dutch. Will I lose something?
Another question: If I upgrade to ICS official by Sony trough Sony Bridge on my Mac and ICS is installed on my phone, will I lose data and the root and ROM?
Thanks in advance
zeromusx said:
If I root and install the ROM will everything also be available in English only or will I still be able to use Dutch. Will I lose something?
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That depends on whether the new ROM you're flashing contains a Dutch language pack. Rooting per se will not modify your data or your language. Also note that flashing can erase your internal memory data.(I have no experience with the Star, however I had a Nokia 3500c. Using the official Nokia app, I upgraded my firmware without any data loss. If you will be using the official Samsung app, you should be safe). That said, make it a point to backup your SMSes, contacts, calendars, notes etc.
Another question: If I upgrade to ICS official by Sony trough Sony Bridge on my Mac and ICS is installed on my phone, will I lose data and the root and ROM?
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Will I lose root? Yes, you will most likely lose existing root permissions if you already are rooted.
Will I lose data? Unlikely, using Sony Bridge.
Will I lose ROM? Of course, that's the reason you're upgrading to ICS in the first place, isn't it?
Have a look at the following resources and any other places you'll stumble across.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253127,
http://www.techcredo.com/android/android-rom-and-rooting-dictionary-all-the-funny-words-explained
Good luck!
Installed Cyanogen Mod 9 in my Live with walkman. So far So good!
rolo143 said:
I just installed Cyanogenmod today and it's fantastic!
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Sir can you show us some screenshots?
thanks again
blackstallion1234 said:
Glad it worked for you! Not to be a thanks-whore, but it's just a click away if I really helped ya!
Cheers!
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my bad
i thought i did click it earlier , but did today
i'll come back for ROM review later
So, I have made a major boo boo when it comes to rooting devices and flashing custom ROMs; normally I am not a n00b when it comes to this, but I think I gone done something wrong this time. I have checked Diamondbacks thread as well as many other and have a whole slew of tools downloaded now and I cannot seem to get past the splash screen. ADB recognizes my device as well as Windows in Fastboot mode, just can't seem to figure out how to flash the stock ROM back on this device. I would be willing to donate money to the cause as this has cause me much undue frustration. If you are up and willing to the task, please PM me or even call my cell to walk me through this. Couldn't find XDA's chat, all I am asking is that someone have a heart and help a fellow techie out.
LivioDoubleFang said:
So, I have made a major boo boo when it comes to rooting devices and flashing custom ROMs; normally I am not a n00b when it comes to this, but I think I gone done something wrong this time. I have checked Diamondbacks thread as well as many other and have a whole slew of tools downloaded now and I cannot seem to get past the splash screen. ADB recognizes my device as well as Windows in Fastboot mode, just can't seem to figure out how to flash the stock ROM back on this device. I would be willing to donate money to the cause as this has cause me much undue frustration. If you are up and willing to the task, please PM me or even call my cell to walk me through this. Couldn't find XDA's chat, all I am asking is that someone have a heart and help a fellow techie out.
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Not sure what recovery you have now but I suggest you go here >>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615990 and install twrp recovery through the fastboot method. Boot into trwp recovery. After that, download the nvflash files from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774352
Not saying you should use nvflash at this point but the file also contains a known good adb.exe file. Unzip the file and while in that directory press and hold the shift button while right clicking the mouse. This will bring up a menu select open command prompt here.
Put your rom into the same folder as the adb.exe then in the comand window type adb push /name of your rom.zip /sdcard/ if this doesn't work use /sdcard/media At this point you should be able to install the rom. As for the rom, a good starting point would be androwook rom since it seems to install quite easily (do not unzip). Also when you are performing commands in either fastboot or adb, it is best to copy (control c) from the webpage then in the command window right click and paste, this eliminates errors. Having the files you are flashing in the same directory of fastboot or adb eliminates the need to type pathways, this is where many people run into issues, 1 wrong letter make everything not work....
Thanks Gage_Hero, the TWRP tutorial was just what I needed in getting a custom ROM flashed to the device; however, my next question is, if I did not create a backup of the stock ROM like I should have, will I ever be able to get back to it should I need to update the OS or for any other reason? From what I have read, Asus stock ROMs have a unique ID to every device, making it virtually impossible to use someone else's backup for flashing. Much appreciated for any information you can provide.
LivioDoubleFang said:
Thanks Gage_Hero, the TWRP tutorial was just what I needed in getting a custom ROM flashed to the device; however, my next question is, if I did not create a backup of the stock ROM like I should have, will I ever be able to get back to it should I need to update the OS or for any other reason? From what I have read, Asus stock ROMs have a unique ID to every device, making it virtually impossible to use someone else's backup for flashing. Much appreciated for any information you can provide.
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Most people don't have a stock backup since once you are unlocked, trying to install the ota update can make the tablet inoperable. So basically when Asus updates the software then the developers here pick up the stock rom and enhance it. This goes anywhere from the base stock rom with root up to taking the rom and customizing it with options, kernel changes and such. The only thing I will say about changing kernels is only use kernels that were developed for the particular rom or you will have trouble. Kind of like taking a Ford motor and trying to mate it to a chevy transmission.
If you do change roms, make sure you wipe cache, dalvik and do the factory reset from within twrp. When you become comfortable, I suggest looking at the NVflash thread in the dev section. This will provide you with a bit of assurance that you can recovery from most software brick situations. Read over the instructions a few times before you go a head and take some time to read through the thread so you know what could potentially go wrong. It really isn't that difficult to do but you should be well informaed before proceding. If you need anything else don't hesitate to ask
Another thing that i find helpful, keep a stock rom in your sdcard. When i semi-bricked my 201, i was able to flash the stock rom using CWM, then do a factory reset. Once back to factory, i was able to boot and start over again.
Well, I've pretty much had it with this latest update (ATT, 4.5.145). I'd like to go back to .141 as its easily rootable. My Atrix is boot unlocked, and I have no interest in the custom ROMs. I dont have squat on the phone I need to keep, so I can blow the whole thing away as needed. I have the latest USB drivers and RSDlite ready to go.
I located the following ROM, and downloaded it... "1FF-olympus-user-2.3.6-4.5.141-111212-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P012.sbf", appears to be the correct one.
I've been reading and reading and reading on the forums here (i.e. I've searched a lot), but theres a lot of cross-info, its hard to tell whats applicable in some situations.
So the question....
Which HowTo/Method/Guide would be most appropriate for my situation? Or is there something that would prevent this back-rev?
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
K
KetoSoi said:
Well, I've pretty much had it with this latest update (ATT, 4.5.145). I'd like to go back to .141 as its easily rootable. My Atrix is boot unlocked, and I have no interest in the custom ROMs. I dont have squat on the phone I need to keep, so I can blow the whole thing away as needed. I have the latest USB drivers and RSDlite ready to go.
I located the following ROM, and downloaded it... "1FF-olympus-user-2.3.6-4.5.141-111212-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P012.sbf", appears to be the correct one.
I've been reading and reading and reading on the forums here (i.e. I've searched a lot), but theres a lot of cross-info, its hard to tell whats applicable in some situations.
So the question....
Which HowTo/Method/Guide would be most appropriate for my situation? Or is there something that would prevent this back-rev?
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
K
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Never flash an SBF unless you have no other choice. Major hard brick risk.
In this section I have a stickied thread with the answers you need.
If your bootloader is still unlocked and you still have a custom recovery installed, flashing a fruit cake should work fine.
upndwn4par said:
Never flash an SBF unless you have no other choice. Major hard brick risk.
In this section I have a stickied thread with the answers you need.
If your bootloader is still unlocked and you still have a custom recovery installed, flashing a fruit cake should work fine.
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At this point, I dont have much choice. Unless some one figures out what motorola/att did with 145 to completely screw root (its beyond my abilities), I need to press forward. If I brick it, I brick it. I'll use your sticky as my guide then, seems reliable.
Bootloader is unlocked, though I've never installed a 'custom recovery'. Looks like the various fruitcakes links are unavailable for download?
What is the advantage of the fruitcake version over the version I posted?
Thanks for the guidance
K
KetoSoi said:
At this point, I dont have much choice. Unless some one figures out what motorola/att did with 145 to completely screw root (its beyond my abilities), I need to press forward. If I brick it, I brick it. I'll use your sticky as my guide then, seems reliable.
Bootloader is unlocked, though I've never installed a 'custom recovery'. Looks like the various fruitcakes links are unavailable for download?
What is the advantage of the fruitcake version over the version I posted?
Thanks for the guidance
K
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I just sold mine but will look in PC history. My matrix was stock 4.5.145 and I rooted it. I remember failing a few methods till I found one that worked. If I figure out what I did I will post it for you. If not fruitcake is best way
KetoSoi said:
At this point, I dont have much choice. Unless some one figures out what motorola/att did with 145 to completely screw root (its beyond my abilities), I need to press forward. If I brick it, I brick it. I'll use your sticky as my guide then, seems reliable.
Bootloader is unlocked, though I've never installed a 'custom recovery'. Looks like the various fruitcakes links are unavailable for download?
What is the advantage of the fruitcake version over the version I posted?
Thanks for the guidance
K
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The difference between what you posted (an SBF) and what I suggest (a fruit cake) is that an SBF is full stock firmware (bootloader, boot, system, radio, etc). It is the bootloader that causes the problems. Flashing an SBF is a crap shoot. You might do it 10 times without a problem, and the 11th time you hard brick your device. By hard brick I mean hard brick = your device is now a paperweight.
A fruitcake is essentially the same as a custom ROM. You are only flashing the boot and system images. This is always the best option for returning to stock.
However, you are in a different situation - uncharted waters so to speak. No one knows what to expect from 145. And since you don't have a custom recovery installed (CWM, TWRP, etc.) you can't just flash a fruit cake like you would flash a ROM. You should be able to use the fastboot method to flash the fruit cake, but again...uncharted waters.
I suggest trying the following in this order based on your current situation (options 1 and 2 assume you do in fact have an unlocked bootloader):
1) Fastboot flash a custom recovery, then try to flash the zip I posted on my rooting guide thread. If this works you will have rooted 145.
2) Fastboot flash a custom recovery, then flash the 141 fruit cake I made.
3) Fastboot flash the boot and system fruitcake images.
All the files and info you need can be found on my "Answers" thread and my rooting guide.
Do not flash an SBF until all else has failed. Let me know how things go with the above before you even consider this.
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Before you try any of the above, did you try UnlockRoot? It may work.
upndwn4par said:
A fruitcake is essentially the same as a custom ROM. You are only flashing the boot and system images. This is always the best option for returning to stock.
I suggest trying the following in this order based on your current situation (options 1 and 2 assume you do in fact have an unlocked bootloader):
1) Fastboot flash a custom recovery, then try to flash the zip I posted on my rooting guide thread. If this works you will have rooted 145.
2) Fastboot flash a custom recovery, then flash the 141 fruit cake I made.
3) Fastboot flash the boot and system fruitcake images.
All the files and info you need can be found on my "Answers" thread and my rooting guide.
Do not flash an SBF until all else has failed. Let me know how things go with the above before you even consider this.
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Before you try any of the above, did you try UnlockRoot? It may work.
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Understood, thanks for the explanation.
UnlockRoot couldnt gain root access
I will attempt your suggestions Thanks very much for the guidance, its invaluable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769497.
I am pretty sure this is the method I used to root 4.5.145 before I sold it
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Unless some one figures out what motorola/att did with 145 to completely screw root ...
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From what I hear, the only thing that Moto "screwed up" (I wouldn't really call it that) is that on .145 they filled up /system. That is actually trivial to resolve - delete a few apps from /system/app that you don't need/want (you can install them later if you want to, some can live happily on /data) and - this is crucial - wipe /preinstall, since that is what fills up /system. If you don't wipe /preinstall, just deleting apps from /system will only last until next boot. Or, well, you don't need to wipe /preinstall, you can just flash the rooting preinstall image.
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Let me know how things go with the above before you even consider this.
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I was able to flash CWM Recovery no problem. I was able to flash your superuser zip as well, however it did not root the system. All indicators showed it as being successful, but ultimately it was a no-go.
At that point I flashed your fruitcake 141 images, good to go there. I then applied the preinstall method, and viola, rooted again.
I am good to go, thanks to your knowledge and skills Thank you!
Now, all I have to do is email a scan of my middle finger to motorola/att.... lol
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From what I hear, the only thing that Moto "screwed up" (I wouldn't really call it that) is that on .145 they filled up /system. That is actually trivial to resolve - delete a few apps from /system/app that you don't need/want (you can install them later if you want to, some can live happily on /data) and - this is crucial - wipe /preinstall, since that is what fills up /system. If you don't wipe /preinstall, just deleting apps from /system will only last until next boot. Or, well, you don't need to wipe /preinstall, you can just flash the rooting preinstall image.
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I tried several variations of what youre refering to, however it was to no avail.
I went as far as to delete several useless items (apps) out of the dir, the free space indicated never changed. The amount I removed was more that enough copy su in... yet, it always reports not enough space.
I tried an experiment. I renamed the 'fake' su (always zero bytes) in the bin dir to 'su.old'. Within 30 seconds, *something* renamed it back to 'su', happened right in front of my eyes in Root Explorer.
When you say 'wipe preinstall', specifically you mean?
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I tried several variations of what youre refering to, however it was to no avail.
I went as far as to delete several useless items (apps) out of the dir, the free space indicated never changed. The amount I removed was more that enough copy su in... yet, it always reports not enough space.
I tried an experiment. I renamed the 'fake' su (always zero bytes) in the bin dir to 'su.old'. Within 30 seconds, *something* renamed it back to 'su', happened right in front of my eyes in Root Explorer.
When you say 'wipe preinstall', specifically you mean?
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Wow, that's just bizarre. Not sure what to think here.
I meant something like
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moto-fastboot erase preinstall
KetoSoi said:
I was able to flash CWM Recovery no problem. I was able to flash your superuser zip as well, however it did not root the system. All indicators showed it as being successful, but ultimately it was a no-go.
At that point I flashed your fruitcake 141 images, good to go there. I then applied the preinstall method, and viola, rooted again.
I am good to go, thanks to your knowledge and skills Thank you!
Now, all I have to do is email a scan of my middle finger to motorola/att.... lol
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Awesome!
I really don't understand why the superuser zip did not give you root access.
Moreover, I don't understand why some users seem to be able to root 145.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised since this device has always been a PITA.
upndwn4par said:
Awesome!
I really don't understand why the superuser zip did not give you root access.
Moreover, I don't understand why some users seem to be able to root 145.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised since this device has always been a PITA.
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Very odd some cannot root. I was on permalocked bootloader and still rooted after soak
Its sad, because the 145 update seemed like it made the phone a little snappier, and the screen was a pinch smoother.
What do you guys think about applying the CWM Zip for update 4.5.145 in my situation? Would that be safer?
Uh oh.... you guys ran away! LOL
I was able to flash the 145 update via CWM from NYG-SBXLII's handy zip file
No real problems, 145 running fine WITH root intact. Awesome
Had to blow away the recovery-from-boot.p file afterwards, and re-flash CWM Recovery, but it was all good.
Updated SU and bin's, good to go.
affiatic said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769497.
I am pretty sure this is the method I used to root 4.5.145 before I sold it
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This worked for me too with 4.5.145, followed it exactly and had no problems. Thanks!
KetoSoi said:
Well, I've pretty much had it with this latest update (ATT, 4.5.145). I'd like to go back to .141 as its easily rootable. My Atrix is boot unlocked, and I have no interest in the custom ROMs. I dont have squat on the phone I need to keep, so I can blow the whole thing away as needed. I have the latest USB drivers and RSDlite ready to go.
I located the following ROM, and downloaded it... "1FF-olympus-user-2.3.6-4.5.141-111212-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P012.sbf", appears to be the correct one.
I've been reading and reading and reading on the forums here (i.e. I've searched a lot), but theres a lot of cross-info, its hard to tell whats applicable in some situations.
So the question....
Which HowTo/Method/Guide would be most appropriate for my situation? Or is there something that would prevent this back-rev?
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
K
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How did you unlock the bootloader for firmware 4.5.145? I've been looking everywhere on how to do it safely!
upndwn4par said:
The difference between what you posted (an SBF) and what I suggest (a fruit cake) is that an SBF is full stock firmware (bootloader, boot, system, radio, etc). It is the bootloader that causes the problems. Flashing an SBF is a crap shoot. You might do it 10 times without a problem, and the 11th time you hard brick your device. By hard brick I mean hard brick = your device is now a paperweight.
A fruitcake is essentially the same as a custom ROM. You are only flashing the boot and system images. This is always the best option for returning to stock.
However, you are in a different situation - uncharted waters so to speak. No one knows what to expect from 145. And since you don't have a custom recovery installed (CWM, TWRP, etc.) you can't just flash a fruit cake like you would flash a ROM. You should be able to use the fastboot method to flash the fruit cake, but again...uncharted waters.
I suggest trying the following in this order based on your current situation (options 1 and 2 assume you do in fact have an unlocked bootloader):
1) Fastboot flash a custom recovery, then try to flash the zip I posted on my rooting guide thread. If this works you will have rooted 145.
2) Fastboot flash a custom recovery, then flash the 141 fruit cake I made.
3) Fastboot flash the boot and system fruitcake images.
All the files and info you need can be found on my "Answers" thread and my rooting guide.
Do not flash an SBF until all else has failed. Let me know how things go with the above before you even consider this.
Edit:
Before you try any of the above, did you try UnlockRoot? It may work.
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hello, ive been using 4.5.145 and was unable to root it, the problem with mine is that when I try to use the preinstall method it chokes when i type the "cp /preinstall/su /system/bin/... there was a message cp write error: no space left on device.. I have tried everything (almost) to root it but was unlucky.. then i saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153422 ... i wanna try your suggestion but cant find the zip file in suggestion 1 and the 141 fruitcake you made on suggestion 2 and cant find file on option 3.. please do help me.. I have unlocked bootloader and have rom racers cwm.. thank you and more power..
i have been seeing a lot of threads about rooting this phone, but, they all have windows scripts, even the thread that is said to have a runme.sh does not have it in any of the links that i unzipped - only a runme.bat, but yet, people keep mentioning a runme.sh in it... also, i really don't see any one lying out the steps for doing this with linux.
i'm a noob, and dont really know much about this stuff, but i've done this ONCE before with a galxy exhibit, but it was very easy, i just copied a file to the phone (stock rom?), rebooted into recovery, told it to recover from that file, and i was done.
i have no idea how to do it with my new phone, and so i'm wondering:
1: where can i find the files i need to do this with linux - i just want root, nothing special
2: where can i find the steps necessary to do it - in the easiest manner possible?
3: it says i have droid 4.0.4, ICS, but every one who talks about lg l9 p769 says its JB, so, thats a bit odd...
any help is appreciated.
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3: it says i have droid 4.0.4, ICS, but every one who talks about lg l9 p769 says its JB, so, thats a bit odd...
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Your phone is running ICS 4.0, that is the version which it shipped with. Pretty much everyone on here has upgraded to JB either with software update on the phone or they have manually updated with the offline KDZ flash method.
I dont have any experience in linux so I cant help. I hope you can get your phone rooted!
Sent from my LG-P768 using xda app-developers app
i just started to restart my phone into recovery mode to see if i could put cyenogenmod on it without having to root it first, and it's saying "software upgrade ... please wait while upgrading...", so, i guess it's upgrading to JB right now... i'll see shortly.
but even if it does upgrade to JB, i still wouldn't know how to do it on linux. i figured there would just be some files to download, and a sequence of adb commands that i could type into bash, but, i'm kinda lost. i guess i'll wait and see if it upgrades to JB before asking more questions.
thanks.
sentientsystem said:
i just started to restart my phone into recovery mode to see if i could put cyenogenmod on it without having to root it first, and it's saying "software upgrade ... please wait while upgrading...", so, i guess it's upgrading to JB right now... i'll see shortly.
but even if it does upgrade to JB, i still wouldn't know how to do it on linux. i figured there would just be some files to download, and a sequence of adb commands that i could type into bash, but, i'm kinda lost. i guess i'll wait and see if it upgrades to JB before asking more questions.
thanks.
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You would need wine and then set it up...
Sent From My Xperia Themed P769
well, i tried that "LGpwn" and it didn't work, as well as a fake lg-recovery app. i figured out that i've got a "10g" phone (P769 V10G ICS). i'm not sure what the next step is. some one mentioned downgrading to JB... is there some where you can point me to for that???
i've GOT to get this t-mobile junk off my damned phone... i've even TRIED to install cyenogenmod, but i can't figure out how to get my phone to go into recovery mode (NOT factory rest) - i've tried volup+power+home and volup+power, and neither seem to be working.
Setup a sandbox, windows xp. LG uses windows, no other way to root as of right now for the t-mobile version.
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yeah, it's starting to look like i'm gonna have to try this with a virtual machine, or, pay some one else to do it, or, go get my money back and downgrade to a samsung galaxy exihibit (not sure if the new model of that phone is just as easy as the exhibit 4g, but, it's screen is about an inch smaller than the lg, and they're all 3 the same price, so i'd rather keep the lg).
just out of curiosity, how do you get this phone to boot into recovery mode? you don't have to root it for that, or have windows, right? you just hit the right keys on the phone, right? i couldn't get it to work, but, maybe i was doing it wrong. and, if you can go into recovery, does it have to be rooted to use a cyenogenmod image, or will it not really know the difference?
thanks again. i'm sure this thread may help other noobs as well.
sentientsystem said:
yeah, it's starting to look like i'm gonna have to try this with a virtual machine, or, pay some one else to do it, or, go get my money back and downgrad to an samsung galaxy exihibit (not sure if the new model of that phone is just as easy as the exhibit 4g, but, it's screen is about an inch smaller than the lg, and they're all 3 the same price, so i'd rather keep the lg).
just out of curiosity, how do you get this phone to boot into recovery mode? you don't have to root it for that, or have windows, right? you just hit the right keys on the phone, right? i couldn't get it to work, but, maybe i was doing it wrong. and, if you can go into recovery, does it have to be rooted to use a cyenogenmod image, or will it not really know the difference?
thanks again. i'm sure this thread may help other noobs as well.
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Option #1
If you are rooted on stock T-Mobile 10e or 10g ROM and have the CWM installed from this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095825 follow my instructions.
Place one of these CWM ROM images on your SD-Card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136204
Place this JB radio firmware from T-Mobile 20d ROM on your SD-Card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256350
Power off the device.
After power on the back/menu capacitive buttons will flash repetedly. Press Volume down while the lights are flashing and the phone should go into recovery.
Flash the ROM first.
Flash the radio second.
Reboot.
***Notes***
1.) 20d is the latest T-Mobile, 21b is the latest Wind Mobile. Both work.
2.) 21b is lighter/faster but has no wifi-calling.
3.) 21b will require you to manually enter your APN settings for cellular data and MMS. Be sure to write down your APN settings before flashing this ROM.
4.) Some users say battery life sucks on JB. I notice that 21b is better on battery life than 20d.
Option #2.
In Linux install a Windows VM and follow the standard instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
Use KVM with a GUI or even easier use VirtualBox.
I'm a die hard linux geek too. I even run linux at work while all of our msp software was written for windows. You are better off just running an old copy of xp inside virtualbox trust me its just easier that way. You can use adb if you like (its the same thing the windows users use in their batch files and just rewrite the bash script, but you will save yourself lots of headaches just using virtualbox. -- my .02
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i'm not exactly sure what the end result of your instructions are, as i assumed it was to BE rooted, but the first line of your post says "if you are rooted ...", so, i'm guessing you're telling us how to ... unlock the boot loader?
by the way, that reminds me, i still haven't come across any posts on this site that tell noobs:
# what's the unlocked boot loader FOR - why do you need this - what does it do?
# what's the difference between unlocked boot loaders and being rooted?
# do you have to unlock the bootloader to get root access?
all some one like ME needs, is root access, so that i can edit the /etc/hosts file and test mobile compatibility of web apps on the development server before making them live - and to remove t-mobile damned bloat-ware. i hope this helps others who are trying to understand the basic concepts of getting control over the phone they paid money for.
thanks again. now to find a winxp image to load into a virtual machine...
My bad. I should have read through your original question all the way before posting. I see that you are not rooted.
If you are on 10e ROM you can root in Linux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990705
It will require rewriting the batch script as a Linux shell script. It is possible but nobody has done it yet.
If you are on 10g you will need Windows. I have also answered your questions below.
sentientsystem said:
i'm not exactly sure what the end result of your instructions are, as i assumed it was to BE rooted, but the first line of your post says "if you are rooted ...", so, i'm guessing you're telling us how to ... unlock the boot loader?
by the way, that reminds me, i still haven't come across any posts on this site that tell noobs:
# what's the unlocked boot loader FOR - why do you need this - what does it do?
It allows you to boot an un-signed kernel. You can boot custom ROMs basically.
# what's the difference between unlocked boot loaders and being rooted?
Root allows you to `su -` to the root user and own the whole system.
# do you have to unlock the bootloader to get root access?
No.
all some one like ME needs, is root access, so that i can edit the /etc/hosts file and test mobile compatibility of web apps on the development server before making them live - and to remove t-mobile damned bloat-ware. i hope this helps others who are trying to understand the basic concepts of getting control over the phone they paid money for.
thanks again. now to find a winxp image to load into a virtual machine...
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yeah, the one t-mobile is selling now is a v10g - so, it's time to play with virtual machine, and hope that usb-access is passed through from ubuntu to the VM.
thanks for answering the other questions. i think this essentially sets things straight.
peace! \m/ (>_<) \m/
sentientsystem said:
yeah, the one t-mobile is selling now is a v10g - so, it's time to play with virtual machine, and hope that usb-access is passed through from ubuntu to the VM.
thanks for answering the other questions. i think this essentially sets things straight.
peace! \m/ (>_<) \m/
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Welcome!
I know that a long time ago when I ran VirtualBox in Ubuntu there was something I had to do to allow USB access to the VM.
Here are the current instructions directly from Ubuntu:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
Good luck.
hey, i've got 1 more quick question: is there a way to simply load a pre-rooted ROM onto it, like i did with my samsung? where you put it onto the device, the go into recovery mode and choose the pre-rooted ROM? i haven't seen any mention of that, so i'm not sure if that's an option...
also, how the hell do you make this boot into recovery mode? i still haven't been able to get it to do that?
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
sentientsystem said:
hey, i've got 1 more quick question: is there a way to simply load a pre-rooted ROM onto it, like i did with my samsung? where you put it onto the device, the go into recovery mode and choose the pre-rooted ROM? i haven't seen any mention of that, so i'm not sure if that's an option...
also, how the hell do you make this boot into recovery mode? i still haven't been able to get it to do that?
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
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Yes you can flash a pre-rooted image. They are available. Use the search?
I posted instructions on the first page showing how to boot recovery.
that's great news - that's all i really needed - i didn't see them before, at least, not conspicuously, but i'll search around again.
and, i must have some how missed your instructions, i'll look again.
thanks!
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I posted instructions on the first page showing how to boot recovery.
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those steps assume i have CWM installed, and i don't. i looked at installing CWM, and it doesn't have an official recovery app for the p769, and when i went to look at that thread you linked to, it says you must be rooted already. this is the aggravating part of us ignorant people dealing with people who know many things: it appears to us that you have to do some thing that requires that it is already done before you can do it. it doesn't make any sense - just a bunch of circualar requirements, with no beginning.
so, let me ask this a different way: how do i reboot into recovery mode, on a STOCK LG P769 v10g? the lights do not flash, and i'm assuming that is a CWM feature - but CWM is not installed - this is COMPLETELY STOCK - fresh out of the box. so, what do you press, when turning it on, to make it go into recovery mode, so that you can recover from a pre-rooted rom (which i am still looking for)?
i just want to "recover" to a pre-rooted rom, that's it, so that i can delete bloatware and edit the /etc/hosts file (for web app testing). this thread says you cant do this for LG phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174767 - i got the same result the last guy got . trying to borrow a windows computer now...
also, does any one know if it is safe to put a jelly bean rom onto a device that was using ice cream sandwich? is there a difference between the versions that would brick the device? is it not recommended, or is it highly recommended?
thanks again. sorry for all the confusion.
you know, as a side note: it may help more noobs understand this stuff if there was a sort of simplified glossary, perhaps as an official site thread, for the orientation of noobs, that would give an outline of the basic concepts, AND their order of operation. exmaple: "rooting is when you... bootloader unlocking is when you... CWM is for people who want to... you MUST do A before you can do B and then you can optionally do C if so desired...". that would help them understand where to START, then, where to GO next.
well, borrowed a windows computer and i got it rooted, but, i found out a few things about this exact model: it has no "boot to recovery" option, by default - it's locked down pretty good. you can not use any of the other root methods on this model, and you can not do it from linux (f*ck me).
so, that long-winded fake-software-update-while-switched-out-a-hex-edited-binary-file is the ONLY way for this exact model, it seems...
but, at least i can confirm that this exact model CAN be rooted at all
now to remove alllllllll the bloatware... and look into this CWM more and learn more about what is actually IS and WHY so many people install/use/flash it...
hey, does any one know if cyenogenmod ever got themselve's an "app/marketplace"??? that was one of the draw-backs to installing it, last i checked.
thanks @everyone for your help.
sentientsystem said:
those steps assume i have CWM installed, and i don't. i looked at installing CWM, and it doesn't have an official recovery app for the p769, and when i went to look at that thread you linked to, it says you must be rooted already. this is the aggravating part of us ignorant people dealing with people who know many things: it appears to us that you have to do some thing that requires that it is already done before you can do it. it doesn't make any sense - just a bunch of circualar requirements, with no beginning.
so, let me ask this a different way: how do i reboot into recovery mode, on a STOCK LG P769 v10g? the lights do not flash, and i'm assuming that is a CWM feature - but CWM is not installed - this is COMPLETELY STOCK - fresh out of the box. so, what do you press, when turning it on, to make it go into recovery mode, so that you can recover from a pre-rooted rom (which i am still looking for)?
i just want to "recover" to a pre-rooted rom, that's it, so that i can delete bloatware and edit the /etc/hosts file (for web app testing). this thread says you cant do this for LG phones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174767 - i got the same result the last guy got . trying to borrow a windows computer now...
also, does any one know if it is safe to put a jelly bean rom onto a device that was using ice cream sandwich? is there a difference between the versions that would brick the device? is it not recommended, or is it highly recommended?
thanks again. sorry for all the confusion.
you know, as a side note: it may help more noobs understand this stuff if there was a sort of simplified glossary, perhaps as an official site thread, for the orientation of noobs, that would give an outline of the basic concepts, AND their order of operation. exmaple: "rooting is when you... bootloader unlocking is when you... CWM is for people who want to... you MUST do A before you can do B and then you can optionally do C if so desired...". that would help them understand where to START, then, where to GO next.
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I've decided to help you out This page will give you some more info on the P769 and several kdz (roms) for the P769
The fastest way to root is to flash the V21B kdz (this is the Jelly Bean version for Canada) using this guide, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36351786
The reason why you want this rom is because it has a vulnerability that is easy to exploit with Jcase apk
Once your followed everything (and rooted), install Super Su and Busybox
Next install artas182x second init CWM (in case you can't find it on his page, the link is here )
Note: you will see blinking led lights when you see the LG logo (booting up) appear after a couple of seconds. To enter the CWM press the vol (-) when the lights start flashing.
After you installed Artas182x CWM you can recover from someones clockworkmod backup.
following info from Cmahendra's thread
Note: only restore CWM backups from P769 versions or MS769!!!!
Or check out the V10B (MetroPCS "JellyBean") CWM backup
Now the only 2 reasons to unlock the bootloader are:
1. Install a safer and better CWM
The reason why is because Artas182x CWM is a second init (bootstrap), so if you mess around with a busybox apk and something goes wrong or you remove a file that is required (for CWM), it will stop operating. You will have to reflash the kdz or fix what you changed to get it working again.) I've had this problem several times while messing around with different busybox apps and etc.
2. Custom roms
(which you stated you are not looking for) not worth talking about right now.
Answer to questions
The only pre rooted roms are clockworkmod backups, lol
The default recovery is useless to us (unless you feel like solving the problem)
Flashing back and forth (ice to jelly) comes with risk, the program used on Windows to flash is buggy at times. The best way (in my opinion) is to flash only when really required and mostly restore from clockwormod backups. The device is actually hard to hard brick, but it will require at lot more knowledge to get your device running again.
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sentientsystem said:
well, borrowed a windows computer and i got it rooted, but, i found out a few things about this exact model: it has no "boot to recovery" option, by default - it's locked down pretty good. you can not use any of the other root methods on this model, and you can not do it from linux (f*ck me).
so, that long-winded fake-software-update-while-switched-out-a-hex-edited-binary-file is the ONLY way for this exact model, it seems...
but, at least i can confirm that this exact model CAN be rooted at all
now to remove alllllllll the bloatware... and look into this CWM more and learn more about what is actually IS and WHY so many people install/use/flash it...
hey, does any one know if cyenogenmod ever got themselve's an "app/marketplace"??? that was one of the draw-backs to installing it, last i checked.
thanks @all for your help.
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So what version are you on right now
Ice? Jelly?
i'm still on ICS for the moment. still trying to understand what i need to do next. re-reading your post for the 2nd time, and all the threads it references. making sure i don't screw any thing up. thinking about upgrading to JB, and trying this CWM. and looking into this "cyanogenmod" some more, to understand why i never see any one on this site mention it, and what all these "other roms" are about. lmao, like i said, i'm way new to this . it's a lot to take in, even for a web developer .
thanks \m/ (>_<) \m/
I'm following the steps in the link below to root my phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1426377
At step 3, I did get a successful message (I can't remember the message now, but, it seemed successful), but, what exactly does it do? Should I have an extra recovery file on my computer or phone? I don't see any new file created on my computer. So, I just want to make sure it worked properly before moving on.
Thanks.
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mordsith said:
I'm following the steps in the link below to root my phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1426377
At step 3, I did get a successful message (I can't remember the message now, but, it seemed successful), but, what exactly does it do? Should I have an extra recovery file on my computer or phone? I don't see any new file created on my computer. So, I just want to make sure it worked properly before moving on.
Thanks.
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Oops, overlooked this question. If you were communicating with your phone using adb, i don't think anything was created on the computer. The successful thing was unlocking the phone I think, so you could install a custom recovery, which lets you install custom roms. If you've already installed a new rom and run through the setup, I gotta figure the installation of the recovery was successful, as you can't flash custom rom without having a custom recovery installed first. Remember that with some roms you must download the appropriate gapps to provide a handful of the google apps that couldn't be included in the custom rom.
What does the custom recovery do?
pbergonzi said:
Oops, overlooked this question. If you were communicating with your phone using adb, i don't think anything was created on the computer. The successful thing was unlocking the phone I think, so you could install a custom recovery, which lets you install custom roms. If you've already installed a new rom and run through the setup, I gotta figure the installation of the recovery was successful, as you can't flash custom rom without having a custom recovery installed first. Remember that with some roms you must download the appropriate gapps to provide a handful of the google apps that couldn't be included in the custom rom.
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No worries, it's probably better that this question is separated in a new thread, anyways.
I didn't move on. I restrained myself from going ahead! Thank goodness you answer pretty fast . Learned the hard way in other experiences.
So, I didn't install a custom rom and based on the original post, I gather, there is no need to., so I'll skip it for now. However, can I install it later, correct, after following the remainder of the instructions?
Thanks.
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mordsith said:
However, can I install it later, correct, after following the remainder of the instructions?
Thanks.
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You can do ANYTHING!!! You are an infinite soul, unbound by nature and the laws of physics.
And I'm sure you will be able to flash a custom rom following the instructions when you want to, seeing as you have the good sense to read and be cautious.