So we have a great phone with a horrible screen brightness problem.
Samsung touts its great battery life, (well yah with a dim screen).
I find I must always use 100% brightness setting to make the screen
even 1/2 as bright as my older phones (Evo, etc.). Even at 100% brightness,
white is not white, it is grey/light brown and the battery only lasts a few hours.
Very sad, I wish we could do something about this. And if you look closely,
a lot of colors are really a color with a grid pattern all over it. I am 47 and my
eyes are not that great, but pentile still sucks IMO, no matter how much
review sites rave about the great screen (yah it is big and crisp), but it
still is a dim sucky screen.
hotstocks said:
So we have a great phone with a horrible screen brightness problem.
Samsung touts its great battery life, (well yah with a dim screen).
I find I must always use 100% brightness setting to make the screen
even 1/2 as bright as my older phones (Evo, etc.). Even at 100% brightness,
white is not white, it is grey/light brown and the battery only lasts a few hours.
Very sad, I wish we could do something about this. And if you look closely,
a lot of colors are really a color with a grid pattern all over it. I am 47 and my
eyes are not that great, but pentile still sucks IMO, no matter how much
review sites rave about the great screen (yah it is big and crisp), but it
still is a dim sucky screen.
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thats why u go with the one x~~
since screen is the most importatn part of the phone you interact with, i chose to get the best screen on the market. however, i do envy ur battery life though.
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The battery of the GS3 is bigger than the One X.
What would be the difference between GS3 %100 brightness and 75% brightness HTC one X in terms of battery?
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The battery of the GS3 is bigger than the One X.
What would be the difference between GS3 %100 brightness and 75% brightness HTC one X in terms of battery?
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Actually the one x is really bright screen, and It could make some difference but only cause of the crazy over killing of apps
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TitaniumBarbell said:
The battery of the GS3 is bigger than the One X.
What would be the difference between GS3 %100 brightness and 75% brightness HTC one X in terms of battery?
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actually, s3 at full brighness is one x at around half, maybe 40 percent
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You can get like a 4300 to 4500 mah extended battery off ebay or amazon
with a back cover for like $20. Then the phone will last twice as long, more
than enough to cover a heavy day at 100% brightness. Plus it will make the
phone thicker, I can't stand how thin and delicate the GS3 is, it practically
slips out of your hand, they should have made the phone thicker with a
bigger battery to begin with (Droid Max).
Turn off auto adjust screen time option in the display settings to make your screen brighter. It'll make your whites better as well.
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You can get like a 4300 to 4500 mah extended battery off ebay or amazon
with a back cover for like $20. Then the phone will last twice as long, more
than enough to cover a heavy day at 100% brightness. Plus it will make the
phone thicker, I can't stand how thin and delicate the GS3 is, it practically
slips out of your hand, they should have made the phone thicker with a
bigger battery to begin with (Droid Max).
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In regards of battery, don't trust third party brands unless if they are authorized by the maker themselves. For batteries, third parties usuallly suck in many ways, in worst cases, overheating.
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Kevin Ma said:
actually, s3 at full brighness is one x at around half, maybe 40 percent
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I wouldn't go that far. I had my GS3 turned up to 100% earlier today and compared it to my sister's Evo 4G LTE, and it was practically the same brightness. I assumed her phone was set to around 50-60%, but when I checked her settings, it was set to 100%. Hers was a bit brighter, obviously, but they were a lot closer brightness-wise than I thought they'd be.
If you need your brightness at 100%, you may want to get your eyes checked. Also, which you might already be aware of this, Samsung roms have a brightness setting in the internet browser as well.
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hotstocks said:
So we have a great phone with a horrible screen brightness problem.
Samsung touts its great battery life, (well yah with a dim screen).
I find I must always use 100% brightness setting to make the screen
even 1/2 as bright as my older phones (Evo, etc.). Even at 100% brightness,
white is not white, it is grey/light brown and the battery only lasts a few hours.
Very sad, I wish we could do something about this. And if you look closely,
a lot of colors are really a color with a grid pattern all over it. I am 47 and my
eyes are not that great, but pentile still sucks IMO, no matter how much
review sites rave about the great screen (yah it is big and crisp), but it
still is a dim sucky screen.
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That is strange. I have not experienced this at all. I have both the GS3 and the original Evo and they seem about the same at 100%. The GS3 is, (to my eyes) easier to see because of the contrast. Meaning I feel like I can get away with setting the brightness to a lower setting without sacrificing readability. As for battery life I'm getting a consistent 14 hours with moderate to heavy use. (It's a new toy, I can't put it down.)
Hopefully you can compare your phone to another, see if they're any different.
I have mine at 75ish % the auto is pretty garbage. I can't wait till cm9/10.
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I don't need my eyes checked.
Forget about the whites not even being as white as the Evo.
Try a game like ShadowGun, even at 100% brightness the game
is dim and oversaturated colors. On the Evo the game is significantly
brighter and objects/details are easier seen, not everything is dark.
This phone gets GREAT blacks, but everything is darker because of it.
I had the HOX. **** phone. The screen on the SG3 is much better.
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I had the HOX. **** phone. The screen on the SG3 is much better.
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thats really one of the worst points u can ever bring up lol. the gs3 beats one x in a lotta areas, but definitely not screen Lol
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with super amoled, if you use a black bg those pixels are just shut off and can save you some battery life. But the SLCD isn't as easy to see in the sunlight and i was curious if there is a difference in battery juice consumption with a white bg. Even black has to be luminated by the screen, not shut off pixels like S-AMOLED. Is there a difference between black n white on SLCD's battery drain?
I'm looking for a more technical answer with reasoning rather than "just try em both and find out".
White would be easier to see in sunlight without having to turn up the brightness past 25%.
Please don't quote me on this but I believe the difference in battery usage would be very negligible. It does take less power to display a black LCD screen than a white one but not enough to provide any noticeable difference in battery life like it does on AMOLED devices.
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Please don't quote me on this but I believe the difference in battery usage would be very negligible. It does take less power to display a black LCD screen than a white one but not enough to provide any noticeable difference in battery life like it does on AMOLED devices.
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Thanks. I did just remember about a cyanogenmod setting to filter the color of the screen and it quote "potential battery saver". Im not sayin battery life is an issue, just curious on knowing the differences in power consumption by color. But like u said, its probably very minimal tho. My 2 past devices were S-AMOLED and I didn't bother with predominantly white backgrounds because it actually made a difference. Time to be able to enjoy the entire spectrum on SLCD without worry! Haha one of the few benefits of LCD
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I think it might use more power on LCD screens. Or, at least, I remember reading that. However, back on my Hero, I tried the effect and it seemed to use the CPU more to render the effect. The phone got slower while in red, blue, etc. I think it is really only for AMOLED screens. Phones using that type of screen benefit a lot more. But I am most likely wrong. It has been a long time since I read up on this tweak.
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I think it might use more power on LCD screens. Or, at least, I remember reading that. However, back on my Hero, I tried the effect and it seemed to use the CPU more to render the effect. The phone got slower while in red, blue, etc. I think it is really only for AMOLED screens. Phones using that type of screen benefit a lot more. But I am most likely wrong. It has been a long time since I read up on this tweak.
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that sucks that the phone becomes sluggish, but then again it was the hero which is 1/4 the phone the 3D is...
also, i'm trying to make sense of it being for AMOLED screens, cuz the pixels are individual LEDs (or so i think) which are on/off individually. but LCD is Liquid.Crystal.Display, which to me makes more sense to render the entire display a certain color... i dunno, probably talking outta my a$$ but hopefully someone with a definite answer can chime in..
thanks for all the info & opinions from you guys, i feel we're getting closer
What do you keep your display brightness at?
I left mine on auto since I got it bit now just changed it to 100%. Im gonna see how much worse it is on the battery because the trade off might be worth it for how awesome it looks at full brightness.
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What do you keep your display brightness at?
I left mine on auto since I got it bit now just changed it to 100%. Im gonna see how much worse it is on the battery because the trade off might be worth it for how awesome it looks at full brightness.
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I gotta go full on bright at all times. Why buy a phone with an awesome screen and throttle the beauty of it. Plus somebody might be looking over your shoulder. HaHa!!
With both my Captivate and Infuse, I never used auto brightness. I always use 0% unless I'm outdoors, as these screens are really readable even in well lighted rooms.
I keep mine on 100 percent. I dont see the point of having such an amazing screen if i can't enjoy it at full capacity.....
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Today my first day with the phone I left it at half way.
I have the brightness all the way down and its still really bright!
I use auto but at night in bed even at lowest setting its still pretty bright so I use an app called screen filter and dims the screen even lower then samsungs lowest setting. I would think this would save on battery life as well if you were to use this app more often?
Auto. I think this phone tends to be on the brighter side compared to others when on auto. I'm not saying that as a bad thing though, just an observation.
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Auto. I think this phone tends to be on the brighter side compared to others when on auto. I'm not saying that as a bad thing though, just an observation.
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Probably due to the increased number of pixels/increased area. Even with the same output per pixel, the note will be brighter than say an infuse or a captivate because there are more pixels shining towards your eyes.
I keep mine below 10% unless I am in bright sunlight. The screen is easy to read and less brightness over such a large screen means far less power consumption. Just my humble two cents.
--Mike
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I don't think that using the screen at less than 100% diminishes its beauty. Most times, for me at least, 100% is way too bright. Also, using the screen at 0% will show much better battery life. I notice huge drain when using my Infuse at 100% for any amount of time. I can literally watch my percentage drop as I catch up on XDA posts and facebook/twitter. The display is easily the biggest drain of all for any phone, and using it on 100% will drain your battery even quicker. Just don't complain about crappy battery life when it happens please.
If battery life was unlimited and not a factor would you use full brightness at all times?
No, as I said, the screen is too bright at times. Having it at 100% also heats up the phone more quickly.
I keep mine at 100 all the time for the same reason other posters have stated. Why take away from the main selling point of the phone (at least it is to me). I suppose I'm lucky in that I have an office job and spend a good deal of time at my desk during the day. I can always plug in for an hour or two if I need to, but so far with the Note I haven't needed to. No heat issues either.
Like most other things android, it always comes down to personal preference.
How is the text in full sunlight? This will be my work phone also and I need to be able to check e-mails in the sunlight.
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How is the text in full sunlight? This will be my work phone also and I need to be able to check e-mails in the sunlight.
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There is a fair amount of glare, of course, but I was able to easily read emails in direct sunlight. One of the first things I tried on Friday when I got it...
Thanks for the reply - this has to be a huge upgrade over my HTC Tilt 2. I have to either find shade or cover it up with my hand. Hopefully with the Note I will not have to put on my reading glasses to see.
10% indoor Auto outdoor
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I keep mine on 100 percent. I dont see the point of having such an amazing screen if i can't enjoy it at full capacity.....
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Enjoy while you can Ever heard of screen burn in? 100% brightness will only speed up the burn in. That's the same effect when you buy a Plasma TV and use the torch mode except AMOLED screens will burn in 10 times faster than Plasma screens.
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Enjoy while you can Ever heard of screen burn in? 100% brightness will only speed up the burn in. That's the same effect when you buy a Plasma TV and use the torch mode except AMOLED screens will burn in 10 times faster than Plasma screens.
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I still feel plasma > led > lcd
I loves my panasonic viera
I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
And what would you expect to see looking at a poor quality entitle screen?
My s3 is probably the clearest looking screen I've looked upon
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
I'll trust Samsung on this, since there pretty good at making screens.
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I've read some of the older device reviews on tech websites and whenever the device had a Pentile screen, the review always criticized it.
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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Older AMOLED Pentile Display were bad because they have a low ppi (240ppi on the SGS1)
But SGS3 screen has a 306ppi and the "pentile effect" seems to be not there (at least I do not see it on my SGS3
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No matter what? Even if you're holding it like a inch away from your phone? I usually use my iPod touch (I have a Blackberry phone, it sucks for web browsing) when in the mornings when I don't feel like getting out of my bed. I usually hold it just 6 inches away from my eyes.
My S3 has to be the clearest screen I have ever seen. Had it for a few days now and still doesn't fail to amaze me whenever I turn the screen on.
You don't have to worry about holding it 6 inches or even 2 inches away from your face.
Its really beautiful...much better then my Nexus...
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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Arsaw said:
The best way to solve your problem is to go the nearest store and have a look at the demo unit. Don't believe what you hear or read, believe what you see.
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This.
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This.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
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I'm thinking about buying the Galaxy S III, but the Pentile screen is really holding me back. I mean, why buy a device with a screen that looks bad and has to be looked at for several hours a week?
I've heard that at high resolution, Pentile screens don't matter. But I want some opinions from all you people out there.
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I saw the Motorola Droid Razr before I knew what pentile was and I thought it looked weird and pixellated so it's certainely not placebo. At the ppi of the GS3 it doesn't matter imo. I do still notice it (but not like I can count the pixels.. but it just is a little bit different then normal rgb screens) but the screen is still somehow the best I've seen in a phone.
You shouldn't keep yourself from buying it because of this as it not even really noticable, it's the best screen there is imo and it even spares some battery.
I can notice the pentile effect if I stare hard at the screen from less than 10cm away. I've compared my S3 to the HOX and the HOX does indeed has a finer screen. But still the S3 has one amazing screen. The blacks are much better although the colours seems a little over saturated and slightly on the warm side.
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I live in a semi-rural area. The closest store to me is a over a hour's drive away. My schedule for the next couple weeks is packed, I will not have enough time to go over to the closest store and look at the phones.
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Well then I guess you have two options 1.) Wait two weeks and then go look at the phone 2.) Go with a different phone.
The only time I notice the pentile screen is whilst reading some text. It is barely recognisable but if and when you notice it you'll subconsciously start to look out for it. But it is very minor indeed, and changing the font of text helps to more or less eradicate it.
Aside from that minor quibble re text I have to say that this screen is absolutely awesome. Colours and contrast are absolutely amazing. I tend to set the screen mode to Natural as I think this gives the best colour effect.
I know this screen is awesome because when I switch from it to my iPad 3's retina screen I don't feel any degradation, if anything pictures and videos look better on it than on the iPad 3 - and that's saying something!
Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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Does this screen have the same issues as the Galaxy Nexus screen? Purple tint at low bright setting and whites looking like old yellow newspaper?
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I didn't own the G Nexus, but there is no purple tint at low brightness. My S2 had a slight yet noticeable yellowing at low brightness - this does not
Yes, if you will use the phone under a magnifying glass
"Super Amoled Plus" will never work with High Resolution. They are not designed for that.
Move up dude
I my opinion It is noticeable, but only at ~3" away and I do have 20/20 vision but in any other situation It's fine, I have even fooled a few friends who own an s2 that it was a 'plus' display but as above you are best going to have a look
Its noticeable, coming from an Xperia S (which I gave to my wife for this phone) and having a G Note which died before the Xperia S, its the same for me as the G Note.
It's mainly around fonts and small icons which is more noticeable, definitely not in pictures unless you have super vision, but most of the time you're looking at fonts or small icons, so yes its there.
But FWIW I wouldn't trade it for the contrast, I've never owned a phone with such contrast (actually the Note was the same), but having said that in sunlight forget using this phone, side by side in sunlight with the Xperia S, the Sony wins hands down.
Guys I'm planning on getting this phone after i return my one x and i wanted to know what's the gaming battery life like?
Thanks guys.
Also people who had the one x how do you find the screen on the s3??
I've got the One X and the GS3, I prefer the One X overall, GS3 will always be a second choice for me,
One X screen is very much brighter than GS3. One X screen colours a bit wash off and black is not so black. However, One X screen is better in movies as I find it showing much better details especially in dark scenes compare to GS3.
Not much difference in term of gaming on battery life for both GS3 and One X.
If screen quality is deal breaker for u, then go for One X. Else GS3 is better choice. I choose GS3 any day over One X
Oh ya, 4300mAh battery already available for GS3.... Ho ho, no problem to play games whole day
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Guys I'm planning on getting this phone after i return my one x and i wanted to know what's the gaming battery life like?
Thanks guys.
Also people who had the one x how do you find the screen on the s3??
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Battery life is better on the sgs3 as it's a bigger battery, it's quite simple really.
Also when you ask a question be careful to not get a biased opinion, people with the One X are always going to favour their own phone.
Not saying the One X is a bad phone at all, because it's not, but in terms of screen quality, the SGS3 stands alone.
Gaming is going to be better on the SGS3, not by much but it will be smoother and battery life will be better, plus you always have the option to buy a massive battery from the likes of Mugen, Seido or Anker.
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Oh ya, 4300mAh battery already available for GS3.... Ho ho, no problem to play games whole day
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woaft. got a link to somewhere selling those? thats pretty amazing.
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Also people who had the one x how do you find the screen on the s3??
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Had both, screen on the HOX is much much much better, there is really no discussion in that.
To be honest, screen of the SIII sux. It gives me a headache with those grainy edges.
I still have the SIII cuz of build issues with all the hoxes I had. I gave up on the HOX.
besides all the build issues the screen looks a bit better on the one x, but you still have the flickering and the flex, it's been on all 5 hox's i've seen. The S3 has none if this but it's not as bright but black is black, and the pentile is noticeable if you like me have a very good eyesight but no dealbreaker.
everything else is better with the s3. The screen time is double, I could get 3h straight on full brightness on the HOX, I got 6h straight with 8% left on my S3 and that's after ONE charge and no updates.
Thanx very much guys
I do love the screen on my one x and the developer support that the one x has for games and apps. But most get non tegra versions anyway so no biggie.
The battery life is the main thing so i think I'm going s3 and I'm getting the s3 version
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woaft. got a link to somewhere selling those? thats pretty amazing.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-4300m...r-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S-III-I9300-/320924715086
emmm how can htc one x last longer when it uses 40nm quad cpu, lcd screen+1800mah battery? while s3 cpu is better in performance and battery consumption, s3 screen also consumes much lower battery than lcd and battery 2100mah? ^^
The display is noticeably tinted pink, especially side by side with vibrant. Anyone noticing this? Is this a defect and should i exchange the phone at walmart from where i bought?
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Take pics and show us? But probably you should return it.
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I would return it. I have a S1, S2 and a t- mobile S3 and I don't have any pink issue so please post pics of your problem
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Unfortunately my camera was not good enough to pick up the difference. I scoured youtube and got this picture, and this is exactly how it looks. Vibrant is a bit cooler compared to One S in the picture. But Galaxy S3 display looks exactly the same. What do you guys think?
it's kind of hard to tell by picture but is it possible because your lights are dim? For whatever reason, GSIII default light settings are low...really low. Samsung is being cautious or something...I mean their Auto-brightness future sucks because of this, they make it really dim.
Hmm..Really?! The picture is pretty clear in showing the reddish tint on Galaxy S3 screen. But on that youtube video not a single comment about it. Makes me wonder if this is normal and I guess I am too used to the cooler blue tint on the Vibrant? It has been just a few days I got the phone and exchanging it at Walmart is not a problem, otherthan reinstalling all apps and other setup. But I just wanted to know if this is normal and if so I will be getting exactly identical phone and it is just gonna be a waste of time.
Looks like a defect to me, mine is not like that!
My GS3 is on the left, GS2 on the right. Both at 100% brightness
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Looks like a defect to me, mine is not like that!
My GS3 is on the left, GS2 on the right. Both at 100% brightness
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Thanks, your picture gives me some relief. The SG3 definitely has a warmer tone and I think at 30% brightness it makes the whites a little pink. This combined with the fact that I compared to blueish super bright screen of Vibrant may have caused my panic. The brightness of SG3 screen is definitely low, I mean minimum usable is 30% and you have to set it at 50-70% for most situations. Vibrant is super bright where i can use it even at 0% brightness and anything above 50% really hurt the eyes.
My GS3 does not look anything like that, you can easily see the pink in your display.
Defect, return it.
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My GS3 does not look anything like that, you can easily see the pink in your display.
Defect, return it.
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What brightness level you usually set for indoor use?
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What brightness level you usually set for indoor use?
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I leave mine at about seventy five percent always, but at any brightness it does not look like that pink at all
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