Alright I found a fix for the Black Crush Problem.
Note these steps are just how I stumbled upon the fix. I'm not guaranteeing it would fix your Black crush but it fixed mine. I listed everything I did before it was fixed.
This is for you to Re-Enact It's not a guarantee.
WHAT IS BLACK CRUSH?
Watch this video for an example:Click Me
Explanation: It's when our phone can not display the black levels correctly resulting in clipping where there would be shadows, grey areas, dark areas, etc.
To Test if You Have Black Crush/Clipping
Watch This Video:Click Me To Watch
The most notable part if you have Black crush begins at 0:11
If there's no Black Crush/Clipping you're straight. If not try this out then test it again afterwards.
I know YouTube isn't what causes the black crush. I'm just listing what I had expereinced so you may re-enact it and hopefully reach the same solution I have.
On CMW Recovery Update your rom to
"[Rom]~[UCLF5]~TEAM PERFECTION'S ICS OBJECTION|06/28|SGSIII|S Voice|Fast|Spiced UP RC1"
Click Me
Now Follow the Instruction to Update to that rom by every detail.
Update to RC1 Non Flash after Successfully Booting the rom.
Youtube should be broken (At least mine was) Uninstall with Titanium Back-up
Uninstall Launcher with Titanium back up
Boot into CMW Recovery and clear Dalvick Cache and Fix permissions
Reboot
Re-install Youtube
When You reboot It should say "Optimizing Android 1/140" and it'll boot up normally.
After that black crush should be fixed. Test it with YouTube or any of your Pictures that had Black Crush on it before.
xCeejayy said:
Alright I found a fix for the Black Crush Problem.
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Go on youtube and search up Dusk Maiden of Amnesia Opening
Youtube Should be broken (At least mine was) Uninstall with Titanium Back-up
When You reboot It should say "Optimizing Android 1/140" and it'll boot up normally.
After that black crush should be fixed.
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So let me get this straight.. Since youtube is no longer installed, you can't see this nonsense "black crush", so problem fixed.
khaytsus said:
So let me get this straight.. Since youtube is no longer installed, you can't see this nonsense "black crush", so problem fixed.
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Nahhh, my youtube was just broken I just included every detail that I could so that you guys could re-enact my actions. I re-installed youtube right after.
So, I've noticed I even get major distortion in the black borders of some trailers like these two from Iron Man 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQowwwwYa0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siQgD9qOhRs
It's like there's some crazy static in the borders. Is everyone experiencing this, or did I just get a particularly bad one?
Black crush has nothing to do with the Youtube app.
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Black crush has nothing to do with the Youtube app.
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Like I said, I added it into the instructions because it's what I experienced. I know that the Youtube app does nothing with the Black crush and it is merely the phone that cannot process / display the black levels correctly Lol.
Black Crush/Clipping
Black crush/clipping can not be fixed. No one is even sure what causes the issue (is it software or hardware?), Samsung denies it even exists, the level of black crush/clipping varies on different Galaxy Notes, and there are some people who claim their Notes are perfect and show no signs of black crush/clipping at all. All Devs that were working on this Issue have given up, the closest thing to a fix they could come up with was moving the clipping point from between 0/1 to between 6/7 on ICS.
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Black crush/clipping can not be fixed. No one is even sure what causes the issue (is it software or hardware?), Samsung denies it even exists, the level of black crush/clipping varies on different Galaxy Notes, and there are some people who claim their Notes are perfect and show no signs of black crush/clipping at all. All Devs that were working on this Issue have given up, the closest thing to a fix they could come up with was moving the clipping point from between 0/1 to between 6/7 on ICS.
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lol does samsung really deny it exists?
even tho hundreds of people claim and show it does?
You cannot fix black crush!. ,.ics fixed the branding issues but that's it.. this thread is useless and has been attempted many times....
I can live with it.... no problems here.
I don't have it..and if I do...it doesn't bother me at all ..I love my note
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No software tweak can fix a known hardware issue.
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My first note didn't have it and my second one did until this happened. I wasn't looking for a fix I was simply trying to fix my youtube and it fixed itself.
My note didn't have it...
When I first got it I was AMAZED on how good the colors were... I rooted, flashed at I got it
But I don't really care.. fast phone big screen ultimate customization
I can care less about a black crush ^_^
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wow its really bad... especially with a SAMOLED display. my black background looks terrible
murso74 said:
wow its really bad... especially with a SAMOLED display. my black background looks terrible
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Played the video on both my PC's monitor, and phone at the same time, and the phone looked fine.
JGuinan007 said:
Black crush/clipping can not be fixed. No one is even sure what causes the issue (is it software or hardware?), Samsung denies it even exists, the level of black crush/clipping varies on different Galaxy Notes, and there are some people who claim their Notes are perfect and show no signs of black crush/clipping at all. All Devs that were working on this Issue have given up, the closest thing to a fix they could come up with was moving the clipping point from between 0/1 to between 6/7 on ICS.
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This.
OP, I'd love to see a photograph (not a screenshot) of your Note displaying the gamma test image in a dark room. If it shows no clipping, I'll try ICS Perfection.
could this be fixed with uclf6 ?
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could this be fixed with uclf6 ?
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Not likely.
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Hello guys,
after flashing batista70's ROM, I started to notice that on the default wallpaper, there was heavy color banding, as if the bit rate of the colors dropped.
For example when I use the microbes live wallpaper, the microbes are much bigger and it looks like it's zoomed in, plus the dark background, instead of having some smooth grey areas has a net separation between black and dark grey.
I've tried flashing stock ROMs back, but it didnt fix the problem.
Do you think that if I send it to samsung saying that it happened after I updated it via Kies, are they gonna fix it?
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Hello guys,
after flashing batista70's ROM, I started to notice that on the default wallpaper, there was heavy color banding, as if the bit rate of the colors dropped.
For example when I use the microbes live wallpaper, the microbes are much bigger and it looks like it's zoomed in, plus the dark background, instead of having some smooth grey areas has a net separation between black and dark grey.
I've tried flashing stock ROMs back, but it didnt fix the problem.
Do you think that if I send it to samsung saying that it happened after I updated it via Kies, are they gonna fix it?
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If something happened to any hardware component of your phone, they will fix it.. But only if you pay, unless you use a JIG to reset the custom binary counter...
I can't imagine why a ROM should damage your phone, you should try to flash another kernel...
Silberpfeil3110 said:
If something happened to any hardware component of your phone, they will fix it.. But only if you pay, unless you use a JIG to reset the custom binary counter...
I can't imagine why a ROM should damage your phone, you should try to flash another kernel...
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I mean, if I use a jig, and tell them it happened after I updated via Kies, am I still gonna pay?
The phone is in warranty..... They shouldnt make me pay..
the same problem
hi guys. the same probs here. any solution was found? jst flashed with litening rom 6.1 and still have probs with colours on screen. any help? thx
Same
Im having the exact exact same problem. Kind of dissapointing. I thought rooting and flashing roms made better. Its a small problem but an annoying and ugly one. PLEASE HELP!!!!
Funny this, I have the same problem after changing screens (so a hardware, not software, change). Did you guys find out what's causing this?
Dennis_F said:
Funny this, I have the same problem after changing screens (so a hardware, not software, change). Did you guys find out what's causing this?
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possibly display drivers issue?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486620
That user suggested a re-flash
Any news on this issue? I just changed my cracked screen, and when I plugged the new one and turned the phone on, image was perfect, then 1 second later it went all strange, with heavy horizontal banding.
I didn´t have a chance yet to flash new FW because my S2 has a broken power flex button, I´m waiting the replacement one to arrive in the mail, but I would like to know beforehand if this may be just a software problem. If it´s hardware, I think I´m screwed.
Thanks!
For everyone experiencing the yellow tint issue who either don't want to or can't service their handset for whatever reason, try this as a temporary measure. Works for me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yuki.ochi.privacyfilter.free
The yellow tint doesn't bother me enough to want to send it in but the tint sometimes becomes distracting enough to irritate me. Especially so when reading off the browser or an ebook reader. This app allows me to apply a filter to the screen and I've managed to adjust the color to a point where the tint becomes barely visible. The link is to the free version but there's an ad free version as well. Just play with the settings and see what works for you. I'd expect everyone experiencing the issue to require different settings to mask the imperfections.
Hope this helps some of you out there.
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium
The .73 firmware should fix the screen color temperature issue. They made it less warm in terms of color.
Yup. I saw your mention on the other thread but I'm already on. 73 and it's still yellow. Good to know that Sony's taking measures though.
unknown13x said:
The .73 firmware should fix the screen color temperature issue. They made it less warm in terms of color.
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Actually, I am noticing the yellow tint since I installed .73..
What regiion .73 do you have?
One of trickes I use that my friend here told me is massaging that part of the screen and yellow tint goes away. I have found this to be temporary but works better than the rest.
Nimche said:
Actually, I am noticing the yellow tint since I installed .73..
What regiion .73 do you have?
One of trickes I use that my friend here told me is massaging that part of the screen and yellow tint goes away. I have found this to be temporary but works better than the rest.
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Yeah, I just updated mine to .73 too, color still looks the same. Don't see a difference in temp. It was from Asia's firmware note. Anyone tried the SG? I'm on US firmware, so nothing from here. I do see a much better response on the buttons though. Mine had a little lag before, but now it's instant.
unknown13x said:
Yeah, I just updated mine to .73 too, color still looks the same. Don't see a difference in temp. It was from Asia's firmware note. Anyone tried the SG? I'm on US firmware, so nothing from here. I do see a much better response on the buttons though. Mine had a little lag before, but now it's instant.
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There are plenty of SG users on .73 firmware, who still have the yellow tint issue.
hush66 said:
There are plenty of SG users on .73 firmware, who still have the yellow tint issue.
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It's a manufacturing problem and advice from Sony is to replace it...
My second phone doesn't have the issue...
awf said:
It's a manufacturing problem and advice from Sony is to replace it...
My second phone doesn't have the issue...
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How long have you had your second phone for?
dibdin said:
How long have you had your second phone for?
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Well I know where to look at and how to test lol several times had that one over 40 degrees Celsius
So, I think you guys are much more lucky than me. I am in Viet Nam, and I bought XPS in Hong Kong. Now I saw yellow tints but can't go to Hong Kong to change it nor I think Sony Viet Nam would repair it for me. That's bored of such a big company like Sony. It's their fault of manufacture and lot of people have the same issue, they should replace or repair it with global warranty not only specific region though
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Machtgelust said:
For everyone experiencing the yellow tint issue who either don't want to or can't service their handset for whatever reason, try this as a temporary measure. Works for me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yuki.ochi.privacyfilter.free
The yellow tint doesn't bother me enough to want to send it in but the tint sometimes becomes distracting enough to irritate me. Especially so when reading off the browser or an ebook reader. This app allows me to apply a filter to the screen and I've managed to adjust the color to a point where the tint becomes barely visible. The link is to the free version but there's an ad free version as well. Just play with the settings and see what works for you. I'd expect everyone experiencing the issue to require different settings to mask the imperfections.
Hope this helps some of you out there.
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium
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Can you share what settings you used? Couple of screenshots maybe, as a starting point for us...
Thanks...
technaudio said:
Can you share what settings you used? Couple of screenshots maybe, as a starting point for us...
Thanks...
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Hi. I think screen shots won't be necessary as my settings are pretty straightforward. Under "color", I set all 3 bars close to the left so I get a dark gray. For "alpha", my bar is on the left - somewhere between a third or a quarter of the way. FYI, I keep the filter on all the time. My (system) screen brightness is set to about 77 when I'm outdoors.
Do play around with the levels till you're satisfied though. I don't think a one-size-fits-all configuration is possible.
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guys,i went to the assistance and in 2 days they give me a NEW Xperia S
I am either returning my Prime today or trading it for another (one more time). I have had to exchange at best buy a couple of times due to the horrible screen tearing on the first one in gallery, camera and several other apps. Second prime the bottom of the screen died in less than 3 days and would never come back. Factory reset/ cold boot/ soft boot/ you name it. So now im on my third prime and i am still getting artifacts on my home screen and other apps. I have done the whole factory rest, install from sd, cold boot, soft boot, and nothing will stop this dang artifacting. Is this a common problem with the prime and i should expect it from ALL primes, or am i a victim of bad luck and should try another prime? If the majority has issues with this, i am returning it, but if the majority never experiences it i would love to exchange it and get a good working tab that i can keep. Not to keen on anything else until the S4 Krait hits tabs.
thanks for as many replies as possible as i hope to get a good number of responses so i can determine if its a flaw in all primes or just the ones i have had the fortune of using.
Thanks for your time!
Edit, here is a test that anyone with the app can try and reproduce.
C4 Here and have them happen sporadically and easily produced in several apps and launcher. Beautiful widgets is the easiest. I have been wanting someone to test this but haven't had any luck. Just set the beautiful widget forecast (last widget in the list of BW's) on any screen. tap the widget to access the animated graphics. If you location does not have the moving clouds change it to San Diego as it has been cloudy here for a couple of weeks. While the clouds are moving click either the clock or the recent apps button and usually within seconds you will start getting severe artifacts. I have been able to reproduce this on every prime i have gotten my hands on. I also get screen tearing/flickering in androbench pretty regularly but it is different than the artifact. My first prime, before i had it replaced suffered horribly from the left hand side of the screen turning static in camera and other apps. After that replacement my prime and those i have access to suffer the artifacts on .28 in several apps. Someone please try the BW scenario to a tee and give it about 30 seconds at most and see if you receive the artifacts.
I can't blame the BW app though as i have it happen more randomly in several apps, its just that i can reproduce it easily with the BW animation.
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-Rope
mine stopped for now. ever since I did a manual reinstallation of the firmware & did a full wipe, only saw it 2 times on random occasions. Gone after a reboot.
p/s : b4 reinstallation & wipe, reboot wouldnt solve a thing. the damn problem sticks around
MXR2 said:
mine stopped for now. ever since I did a manual reinstallation of the firmware & did a full wipe, only saw it 2 times of random occasions. Gone after a reboot.
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Thanks! That is exactly what i am after, just some confirmation that it is a wide spread issue. I hate being picky, but my unit gets them pretty bad and i am holding out hopes that this doesn't affect all primes. Im gonna update the OP with a test if anyone else that reads this can try. It almost always forces screen artifacts that can't be reproduced on any of my other ICS tabs or phones.
Thanks again!
Also, i did the whole factory reset, installed via sd, hard boot, soft boot, and nothing gets rid of them...
-Rope
welrope said:
Thanks! That is exactly what i am after, just some confirmation that it is a wide spread issue. I hate being picky, but my unit gets them pretty bad and i am holding out hopes that this doesn't affect all primes. Im gonna update the OP with a test if anyone else that reads this can try. It almost always forces screen artifacts that can't be reproduced on any of my other ICS tabs or phones.
Thanks again!
Also, i did the whole factory reset, installed via sd, hard boot, soft boot, and nothing gets rid of them...
-Rope
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This issue is a Graphics Driver Issue (I'm 99% Sure). It was almost gone in .21 (I never had it). The graphic drivers was cleaned up in this latest patch, and after that some users have been having this issue.
It's just a buggy driver / incompatibility with some apps.
No ;l
demandarin said:
No ;l
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Are you saying you have never had the issue?
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welrope said:
Are you saying you have never had the issue?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA Premium HD app
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not really. I had it maybe once or twice. it was either from an update or overclocking. the home screen icon and recent apps looked like it was glitching. I rebooted the prime n never seen it again. I wouldn't call that a display issue. Only a 1 time thing. never had anything like you described where bottom of screen or whatever died out on me.
Overall, I've been very satisfied with my prime display. its been performing fine for me. very responsive.
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not really. I had it maybe once or twice. it was either from an update or overclocking. the home screen icon and recent apps looked like it was glitching. I rebooted the prime n never seen it again. I wouldn't call that a display issue. Only a 1 time thing. never had anything like you described where bottom of screen or whatever died out on me.
Overall, I've been very satisfied with my prime display. its been performing fine for me. very responsive.
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That gives me hope, I wonder if i should try replacing the one i have once more. The screen tearing is the only think keeping this from being a perfect pad for me. I get the tearing in androbench, my home screen, weather forecast and even when unlocking my prime. Also, after following your recommendations on improving performance, all i can say is wow, made it a new machine (-minus the screen artifacts that have always been there even on .21.) So, in your opinion, do you think i have a lemon and my problem is specific to my prime and should replace it? or do you think this is a common problem and should just return it?
Was very curious and decided to check it myself, but sorry mate, I wasn't able to reproduce it on beautifull widget. DO you have another app I could try to reproduce the issue ?
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I have the same problem with Apex Launcher the left side of the screen starts to glitch and the only solution is to restart. It goes away for some time but after a while it comes back. I figured it's a software issue and just stopped using apex launcher. I'm curious if the problem is still there with some of the non-stock roms, but if it's the graphics driver I presume it's there ... Let's hope that with the next update things are going to be better.
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I have the same problem with Apex Launcher the left side of the screen starts to glitch and the only solution is to restart. It goes away for some time but after a while it comes back. I figured it's a software issue and just stopped using apex launcher. I'm curious if the problem is still there with some of the non-stock roms, but if it's the graphics driver I presume it's there ... Let's hope that with the next update things are going to be better.
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The cheap solution when using Apex is to just rotate the screen, scroll and rotate it back... it will get rid of it
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Was very curious and decided to check it myself, but sorry mate, I wasn't able to reproduce it on beautifull widget. DO you have another app I could try to reproduce the issue ?
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It only does it for me if the weather forecast is cloudy.( which it has been here lately) lol. Change your location to Miami or San Diego as they are having some bad/cloudy weather. Once you have a location set with "mostly cloudy" conditions, watch how choppy the clouds move when you click on the widget for the forecast. While the clouds are scrolling, open settings by clicking the clock in the lower corner, let it expand, and just wait. Within seconds my screen will start artifacting all over the place.
Also, thanks and thanked!
Have a BCOKA unit purchased in Dec 2011 (received in Jan) and have never experienced any sort of screen artifacts or tearing. BW weather forecast screen has been showing clouds flowing across the screen for 15 minutes now and still going smoothly.
I've never had tearing or artifacts and I have an old Prime (BCOKAS arrive Dec. 27th, 2011).
I did have all the blacks on my screen turn red (search for my thread) and had to RMA for that to get fixed but it turned out to be a hardware problem and Asus replaced my main board. I don't think this is a problemwith all Primes though. Maybe you'll get a better one this time. Good luck man.
The screen tearing is not the Prime's hardware - it's Asus and their incompetence in putting out decent firmwares. I can just about guarantee this is the situation. I had my Prime since launch. It had terrible screen tearing when I first got it. One of their early firmware updates just about completely solved the issue, and it was working great all the way through .21. Then, as soon as I installed the .28 update, the screen tearing and artifacting came back again. So like I said, it's definitely not a faulty prime (hardware wise). I'd suggest either keeping your Prime and waiting for an update that fixes this, or just returning it and getting another tablet.
As for some of the other issues caused by Asus using a garbage LCD, such as LCD mura (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550530), screen bleeding, and dead/stuck pixels, that's another story.
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That gives me hope, I wonder if i should try replacing the one i have once more. The screen tearing is the only think keeping this from being a perfect pad for me. I get the tearing in androbench, my home screen, weather forecast and even when unlocking my prime. Also, after following your recommendations on improving performance, all i can say is wow, made it a new machine (-minus the screen artifacts that have always been there even on .21.) So, in your opinion, do you think i have a lemon and my problem is specific to my prime and should replace it? or do you think this is a common problem and should just return it?
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I tried your BW test. the animations look and move great on my prime. I let it sit and no screen artifacts turned up. I did see in the options for BW that it said animations were an experimental feature and could cause possible issues. but none on mines though.
as for your situation, I'm not sure. I would say try exchanging again. but I'm starting to think if its maybe an app or combo of apps you have that's causing this. so this happens randomly, no matter what you are doing or app you're using? or is this only occurring when using certain apps or whatever? its kinda sounding like its your apps. did your prime do this immediately out the box brand new? or did this only start occurring after you installed certain apps or Widgets?
just curious, you don't have force gpu on in developer options, do you? that has caused similar issues before.
like previous poster said, I think this is a software issue. which will be solved through an update. maybe even try a manual install of update through Asus website. its a more thorough install.
After .28 I had some of this but none since words with friends put out the update. No doubt a combination of running processes, video drivers and in my case ezoverclock.
Not all Prime have this issue... however, there are enough that DO have this issue.
Just return the device.... don't decide based on what the "future" update will do.. or hopefully will do.
Don't even bother taking a chance.
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I tried your BW test. the animations look and move great on my prime. I let it sit and no screen artifacts turned up. I did see in the options for BW that it said animations were an experimental feature and could cause possible issues. but none on mines though.
as for your situation, I'm not sure. I would say try exchanging again. but I'm starting to think if its maybe an app or combo of apps you have that's causing this. so this happens randomly, no matter what you are doing or app you're using? or is this only occurring when using certain apps or whatever? its kinda sounding like its your apps. did your prime do this immediately out the box brand new? or did this only start occurring after you installed certain apps or Widgets?
just curious, you don't have force gpu on in developer options, do you? that has caused similar issues before.
like previous poster said, I think this is a software issue. which will be solved through an update. maybe even try a manual install of update through Asus website. its a more thorough install.
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Glad you are helping so here are the steps i have taken. I do a lot of research before i post as to limit the amount of time i need to take up. I too thought the app was an incompatibility until i went through the process of removing and formatting my SD card and placing the update zip from ASUS. Booted into what i would call bootloader and factory reset my prime. Once booted, i inserted the sdcard and the went through the upgrade process. Once done i skipped login and allowed the system to settle and then did a hard reboot followed by a soft reboot. I then choose to not restore my apps and only downloaded the BW widget. once opened and set to a location where it was cloudy, clicked the settings launcher and expanded by clicking the clock, which left the animation in the background and within 10- 15 seconds the artifacts became worse and worse. Entire sections of the screen would turn white or green for a split second. I removed the app and downloaded other apps one at a time and found that i would get the same flicker/glitch when using androbench. Also had and issue, when using the gallery, that the screen started scrolling white horizontal lines and slowed to a halt before rebooting. I recently had to travel to San Diego for a week, (poor me) and had my girlfriend go by BB and outright buy another tablet and as i couldn't trust the one i had and figured i would return whichever one worked (Money isn't an issue, just want this prime's display to behave.) Well, as soon as i unboxed it, logged in, allowed it to update, downloaded BW as a test and guess what, same flicker. Granted neither of these had the issues the first two Primes i had to exchange had, when half or most of the screen either went to static or completely quit responding/working.
Now to the interesting part. Both Primes in my possession when i returned home i could test further. I went through the same process of manually wiping, wiping, updating, HB/SB, FR yada yada and only installed the BW app and both Primes behaved the exact same way. As soon as i would expand the recent apps or settings overlay the screen would start to produce odd geometric shapes and would continue every few seconds (the flash is noticeable but quick). Now some good news. The prime i currently have was kept for a few reasons. THE GPS WORKS WELL!!! I have no issues with WIFI, 3/4 bars from70 ft connected to a Cisco 1262. Streaming Netflix with a set of slim JB Bluetooth headsets is a breeze. All of my games (Nova 3, Adrenaline6, Gun Bros, and multiple others play wonderfully and i can honestly say i have never had a game reset/ act funny/ or ANR. My browser would occasionally ANR but it wasn't too bad. The Prime i bought in San Diego would not get a gps signal sitting beside the prime i kept that was getting 10 satellites. Wifi on one prime was -84 in a location that my current prime gets a -66 with a 72Mbps connection. Games would force close on the other prime, Browser would just randomly close. SOD EVERY MORNING. So needless to say i returned it and kept the current one i have. I have tested all i know to test, and no, i don't have force gpu ticked. I have worked with Android for a while and have a Xoom running EOS that doesn't suffer any of the mentioned problems. (one heck of a tablet i might add). But as someone who travels a lot, and the work i do, this can be my laptop replacement.
So all in all i have a tablet that works wonderfully in every area except the fact that it will (at will) artifact/tear using BW animation. It will randomly artifact using Androbench, gallery, camera, quadrant, and both stock launcher and apex pro. Last and notable thing is it seems to do it less if i set the brightness to a static level, say 50%. All of this happens/ bone stock/ root/ no root. Currently running root with your build.prop, the atp app, and sio and this guy is rocking a lot better in the user experience (I/O)
Sorry for the rant, just giving all the info i have. No noob here and wish i could just unlock it and dive into it but cant do it as i don't know if it is hardware.
Thanks for all of the opinions and as soon as my thanking well replenishes i will thank those that i missed!
shinzz said:
Not all Prime have this issue... however, there are enough that DO have this issue.
Just return the device.... don't decide based on what the "future" update will do.. or hopefully will do.
Don't even bother taking a chance.
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Bro, i know you have told me that and my gut says that what i should do as i have kinda been asking this same question in some of the other threads. Thought i would quit hi-jacking and create a post to just see how wide spread this is. I mean dang, i am on my 4th prim in exactly 30 days and only one of them functioned above 75 percent of expected performance. So scared that if i replace it again, i will be out of a 499 tablet as i will likely target practice with it with my 45. lol. Seriously though, i believe you got it right, too many of them have this problem. Sucky thing is i can seem to find an alternative that has what a really want, an S4 krait or a exynos quad and the same docking alternative that the prime has.
So you think there are primes out there that wouldn't have the screen issues i am having? I know i don't think anyone has said they have never experienced it.
Was this a problem when it was on GingerBread?
Thanks,
Wasn't completely sure if this would be more appropriate for General or Q&A so MOD's feel free to move if necessary and I apologize.
So I'm VERY excited to go and pick mine up from Verizon tomorrow (had to wait for payday ) but was curious, how sometimes you hear "oh some of the white version of such and such phone had this issue but the black version did not." I'm pretty skeptical on the validity of such claims, but HAS anyone noticed a difference? I know some people are reporting issues like screen not being as bright/sharp, some people saying they've seen lag/stutter, and others saying they were blown away and absolutely no complaints. I know that no 2 phones will perform exactly the same but what color did everyone end up getting and have you had any issues or not? Seeing if there was any kind of pattern developing, and since I'll have a case I'm not TOO concerned about a particular color but leaning towards the black due to the the ugly white bottom bezel on the white G3.
My white one has absolutely no issues whatsoever. I mean I did see a lil sharpness issues, but I also wear glasses so it could just be human error lol
I was originally getting the black, but changed my mind once I held the white one. I have no issues or stuttering. It does heat up when downloading all my apps but it didn't get any hotter than my old Galaxy Nexus.
White and perfect. No issues at all!
Black one here, within 2 hours after first startup it randomly restarted and bootlooped after that. Since then I have restored it and didn't make it through setup, it now wont turn on at all. Convienently right after verizon closed. I hadn't even begun to put my apps on it or anything was just messing around in settings and stuff. Hope getting another at verizon isn't a problem and hopefully it has no issues .
no issues with the black one here.
Rooted a white one and black one right after each other with no issues so far. Getting great battery life and performance on both.
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no issues with the black one, it is the same phone, different color cases is all. you have to remember that this is the first North American release revisions of these phones that are "official" Any tech related gadget be it a phone or a computer part will have issues when they first release.
snael said:
Black one here, within 2 hours after first startup it randomly restarted and bootlooped after that. Since then I have restored it and didn't make it through setup, it now wont turn on at all. Convienently right after verizon closed. I hadn't even begun to put my apps on it or anything was just messing around in settings and stuff. Hope getting another at verizon isn't a problem and hopefully it has no issues .
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Did you happen to enable ART runtime? After I enabled ART I had couple lockups, and it restarted like 6 times while I was doing titanium restore (not sure if backing up the apps using Dalvik and restoring them while ART is enabled is a NONO but it might be) but the lockups I had I wasn't doing a restore. I factory reset, and didn't enable ART this time, and have had no issues.
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Did you happen to enable ART runtime? After I enabled ART I had couple lockups, and it restarted like 6 times while I was doing titanium restore (not sure if backing up the apps using Dalvik and restoring them while ART is enabled is a NONO but it might be) but the lockups I had I wasn't doing a restore. I factory reset, and didn't enable ART this time, and have had no issues.
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Nope did not enable art, didn't root it happened right after I switched the lock screen unlock animation to circle. I got a reboot and a green screen saying kernel crash and from there I never had it start up to where I could do anything.
I've yet to have any issues with my black version. Even have it rooted and running ART with no problems. I'm starting to think this may just be a luck of the draw type thing.
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no issues with the black one, it is the same phone, different color cases is all. you have to remember that this is the first North American release revisions of these phones that are "official" Any tech related gadget be it a phone or a computer part will have issues when they first release.
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I've yet to have any issues with my black version. Even have it rooted and running ART with no problems. I'm starting to think this may just be a luck of the draw type thing.
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I agree, anything new being mass produced/release there will inevitably be some kinks to work out. I just wanted to see if maybe there would be an emerging pattern. Definitely didn't want to get my phone and later find out "this color case had a slight defect causing X problem." Especially since this is the first time I've gotten a phone right when it was released been trying to be as informed as possible. I appreciate the feedback everyone! It does seem to just be luck of the draw at this point (which is more or less what I was expecting), but keep em coming if you'd like! :good:
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Wasn't completely sure if this would be more appropriate for General or Q&A so MOD's feel free to move if necessary and I apologize.
but leaning towards the black due to the the ugly white bottom bezel on the white G3.
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funny I like the white bezel. It's a different look than all boring black or all boring white.
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I agree, anything new being mass produced/release there will inevitably be some kinks to work out. I just wanted to see if maybe there would be an emerging pattern. Definitely didn't want to get my phone and later find out "this color case had a slight defect causing X problem." Especially since this is the first time I've gotten a phone right when it was released been trying to be as informed as possible. I appreciate the feedback everyone! It does seem to just be luck of the draw at this point (which is more or less what I was expecting), but keep em coming if you'd like! :good:
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Oh I understand. Generally I wait a few months before grabbing up a device. Give everyone time to find the issues and get the manufacturers to fix them. However, last time I did that was with the S4, and it cost me the ability to unlock the bootloader. So...here I am.
My white one doesn't overheat or have much UI lag, but it scores below the GS4 in AnTuTu X and some games don't run as well as expected. Have a feeling that the SoC isn't ramping up as it should.
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My white one has absolutely no issues whatsoever. I mean I did see a lil sharpness issues, but I also wear glasses so it could just be human error lol
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I'm with you on this, I wear glasses too... I do notice sharpness issues. I don't know if this is due to the IPS display or the fact that nothing is capable of 2k resolution yet.
Although I don't think it matters much what color they've decided to make the phone, anything is possible I guess. That said my White one is running great.
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Still havent noticed anything different wrt performance. Bit I will say it is curious why Clash of Clans is preinstalled on the. black ones and not the white ones. Its a free game so not complaining just wondering...
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Still havent noticed anything different wrt performance. Bit I will say it is curious why Clash of Clans is preinstalled on the. black ones and not the white ones. Its a free game so not complaining just wondering...
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Mines white and it's pre installed on it..
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Black is Fine
I have a black G3. Rooted and running fine. Had problems with ART causing lockups, lag, etc. Went back to Dalvik and the phone is sweet.
Hi,
Just got the phone yesterday and I'm completely in love with it, having upgraded from a OnePlus 3T.
However I have encountered a display issue I beleive. It's a bit difficult to explain but when animations are preformed on the screen, for example when pressing buttons in the settings, or when the wave animation that comes up when plugging in the phone for charging, the color in the animation looks like static on a TV (happens both in dark mode and light mode). I'll upload examples here since it's a bit difficult to explain like I said. Anyone else that has encountered this? Haven't found anyone with similar issues so far, or maybe it's supposed to be like this? Do you see this it like this when plugging in the phone for example as well?
Did factory resets, tried starting in SafeMode etc but no luck. ASUS support told me to contact my retailer since it's a brand new device.
Thank you!
Brosnian said:
Hi,
Just got the phone yesterday and I'm completely in love with it, having upgraded from a OnePlus 3T.
However I have encountered a display issue I beleive. It's a bit difficult to explain but when animations are preformed on the screen, for example when pressing buttons in the settings, or when the wave animation that comes up when plugging in the phone for charging, the color in the animation looks like static on a TV (happens both in dark mode and light mode). I'll upload examples here since it's a bit difficult to explain like I said. Anyone else that has encountered this? Haven't found anyone with similar issues so far, or maybe it's supposed to be like this? Do you see this it like this when plugging in the phone for example as well?
Did factory resets, tried starting in SafeMode etc but no luck. ASUS support told me to contact my retailer since it's a brand new device.
Thank you!
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That animation is intentional. Nothing to worry about
mickey36736 said:
That animation is intentional. Nothing to worry about
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Thank you for your reply! So the static-looking colors/theme in all the animations are intentional? If you also have the phone, does it look the same for you like it does in the videos I uploaded?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to be really sure before I contact the retailer
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Thank you for your reply! So the static-looking colors/theme in all the animations are intentional? If you also have the phone, does it look the same for you like it does in the videos I uploaded?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to be really sure before I contact the retailer
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Yes, it is an Android 12 design choice made by google, as you can see in the article I linked, they had to reduce the effect because it was too strong during the first 2 beta versions. So if that is what you are talking about, do not worry its a design choice!
Google tones down Android 12 ripple effect in Beta 3; what do you think of the sparkle now? [Poll]
Following the first beta, early Android 12 users immediately complained about how the ripple effect looked like a graphical bug. Google...
9to5google.com
Adaoh said:
Yes, it is an Android 12 design choice made by google, as you can see in the article I linked, they had to reduce the effect because it was too strong during the first 2 beta versions. So if that is what you are talking about, do not worry its a design choice!
Google tones down Android 12 ripple effect in Beta 3; what do you think of the sparkle now? [Poll]
Following the first beta, early Android 12 users immediately complained about how the ripple effect looked like a graphical bug. Google...
9to5google.com
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You are a saint, thank you!