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Ok so I recently broke my Archos 10 and I'm looking for a new tablet for school. I have the choice between an HP touchpad or a Nook Color I know development is stronger on the Nook but I like the larger screen since I'm coming from a 10 inch screen. Basically a asking in those two forums would be pointless since they own that device so Evo 3D/ other device holders which one should i get?
Please note the SCHOOL part... I'm a broke student and don't have 400-600 to drop on a new tablet
neither, Asus Transformer Prime is the best tablet.
Touchpad all the way, the asus looks dope for a few hundred more though. The nook is great, but a little small for my tastes
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It probably is but who wants to spend $800+ on a tablet lol
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It probably is but who wants to spend $800+ on a tablet lol
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The prime is actually 499 for the 32 GB version. Not too bad.
What do you need it for in school? If it's for taking notes you night really want to consider a cheap netbook.
I just got a Nook Tablet(the new one not the color), development isn't really rolling yet, we do have root and google market. But it does have a great screen and killer battery life(like 10 hours of continuous life). I've found that the 7 inch size is a lot more portable than I thought, Most cargo pants can fit my nook in there and it turns out most of my jackets have at least one pocket that can fit too. It's $250 so its pretty cheap. If your really on a budget there's the kindle fire($200) too.
I picked up a WiFi HTC flyer NIB over thanksgiving for $200 and its a great tablet. It's in the process of updating to honeycomb and it sure is pretty fast. I also own a touchpad but I use the flyer for all school notes because of seamless integration with evernote.
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What do you need it for in school? If it's for taking notes you night really want to consider a cheap netbook.
I just got a Nook Tablet(the new one not the color), development isn't really rolling yet, we do have root and google market. But it does have a great screen and killer battery life(like 10 hours of continuous life). I've found that the 7 inch size is a lot more portable than I thought, Most cargo pants can fit my nook in there and it turns out most of my jackets have at least one pocket that can fit too. It's $250 so its pretty cheap. If your really on a budget there's the kindle fire($200) too.
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This man is right. The price to performance ratio of both the nook tablet and kindle fire really can't be beat. They can pretty much do everything that the $500 tablets can with only half the price.
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Ok so I recently broke my Archos 10 and I'm looking for a new tablet for school. I have the choice between an HP touchpad or a Nook Color I know development is stronger on the Nook but I like the larger screen since I'm coming from a 10 inch screen. Basically a asking in those two forums would be pointless since they own that device so Evo 3D/ other device holders which one should i get?
Please note the SCHOOL part... I'm a broke student and don't have 400-600 to drop on a new tablet
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I will try to answer your actual question and feel that I am pretty qualified to do so as I own both of the products of which you speak. Between the two, if you want to get work done, I would go with the HP Touchpad. I am running the CM7 Alpha 3 XRONified (custom rom based off of CM7 a3) and it is pretty darn stable. I had been using google docs through webOS to take notes and such, but now that Gingerbread is pretty much stable, I am using Quickoffice Pro (thanks amazon free app of the day). I did purchase the BT keyboard when I got this so this really helps. The NC absolutely has had some amazing developer interest and I have been extremely happy with what I have been able to get out of it, but some are really beginning to move on. In fact, Dalingrin who is one of the better known NC devs is now a TP dev and has mentioned that he believes that ICS will run a lot better on TP than NC (duh!). However he said part of the reason is waning dev interest.
I guess if you want a "proof is in the pudding" statement. When I just had my NC, I carried both my 17 in laptop and my NC with me to school and the only school related thing I did with my NC was to display speaker notes when I was giving a presentation. Now I only bring my TP and BT keyboard with me. My laptop stays at home for heaving lifting (though I have a new smaller and lighter laptop) and my NC has been relegated to being an ereader.
I had more I wanted to write but lost track, but please let me know if you have any more direct questions that I can help you with.
Okay. Here is what you really want.
You want the Asus Transformer 1
The first Asus just had a Black Friday Sale for $250 and the price online has dropped.
You can easily get a used mint condition Asus Transformer 1 online for about $250. It is the best device I have ever purchased. With the keyboard dock it is amazing. You just can't beat a tablet for school that gets 16 hours of battery life.
Here is an example of a cheap one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-Eee-Pa...=US_Tablets&hash=item2c61489954#ht_500wt_1156
Check it out, I had the touchpad, it just couldn't beat the dock. The dock is stable so you don't have to balance your tablet while you type, it gives you more battery, and usb and sd card slots for transferring files.
Okay, nuff said
Censura_Umbra said:
Okay. Here is what you really want.
You want the Asus Transformer 1
The first Asus just had a Black Friday Sale for $250 and the price online has dropped.
You can easily get a used mint condition Asus Transformer 1 online for about $250. It is the best device I have ever purchased. With the keyboard dock it is amazing. You just can't beat a tablet for school that gets 16 hours of battery life.
Here is an example of a cheap one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-Eee-Pa...=US_Tablets&hash=item2c61489954#ht_500wt_1156
Check it out, I had the touchpad, it just couldn't beat the dock. The dock is stable so you don't have to balance your tablet while you type, it gives you more battery, and usb and sd card slots for transferring files.
Okay, nuff said
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This would have been my advice since I also saw the $249 black friday price. However, who knows if it will be that price again anytime soon. Plus he is looking at about $100 for a dock. So now, assuming an absolutely best case scenario, he would be spending 150 more than he was looking to spend. This is why still went with the TP.
Also, the TP doesn't have a problem balancing with the HP case (or any trifold case for that matter).
Agreed transformer 1 is the way to go and as was said you should have no prob finding one for 250 - 300.
I have an acer iconia 500 and for the price you cant beat it. Quite a bit of dev action and its a solid hc tab.
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Drewmungus said:
What do you need it for in school? If it's for taking notes you night really want to consider a cheap netbook.
I just got a Nook Tablet(the new one not the color), development isn't really rolling yet, we do have root and google market. But it does have a great screen and killer battery life(like 10 hours of continuous life). I've found that the 7 inch size is a lot more portable than I thought, Most cargo pants can fit my nook in there and it turns out most of my jackets have at least one pocket that can fit too. It's $250 so its pretty cheap. If your really on a budget there's the kindle fire($200) too.
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I do like the size but battery isn't much of a factor since I have 6 hour classes and being an EMT would make this great in terms of size and portability
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I will try to answer your actual question and feel that I am pretty qualified to do so as I own both of the products of which you speak. Between the two, if you want to get work done, I would go with the HP Touchpad. I am running the CM7 Alpha 3 XRONified (custom rom based off of CM7 a3) and it is pretty darn stable. I had been using google docs through webOS to take notes and such, but now that Gingerbread is pretty much stable, I am using Quickoffice Pro (thanks amazon free app of the day). I did purchase the BT keyboard when I got this so this really helps. The NC absolutely has had some amazing developer interest and I have been extremely happy with what I have been able to get out of it, but some are really beginning to move on. In fact, Dalingrin who is one of the better known NC devs is now a TP dev and has mentioned that he believes that ICS will run a lot better on TP than NC (duh!). However he said part of the reason is waning dev interest.
I guess if you want a "proof is in the pudding" statement. When I just had my NC, I carried both my 17 in laptop and my NC with me to school and the only school related thing I did with my NC was to display speaker notes when I was giving a presentation. Now I only bring my TP and BT keyboard with me. My laptop stays at home for heaving lifting (though I have a new smaller and lighter laptop) and my NC has been relegated to being an ereader.
I had more I wanted to write but lost track, but please let me know if you have any more direct questions that I can help you with.
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Wow! This actually made my decision easier the only thing I was unsure of was the use of Bluetooth keyboards and compatibility which would make notes and portability much easier compared to a netbook/notebook
I would go for a newer tablet like most of you are mentioning but since my biggest factor is price a $150 32GB HPTP is my best bet since its for notes and books and its not too expensive
Thanks for the input all
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I do like the size but battery isn't much of a factor since I have 6 hour classes and being an EMT would make this great in terms of size and portability
Wow! This actually made my decision easier the only thing I was unsure of was the use of Bluetooth keyboards and compatibility which would make notes and portability much easier compared to a netbook/notebook
I would go for a newer tablet like most of you are mentioning but since my biggest factor is price a $150 32GB HPTP is my best bet since its for notes and books and its not too expensive
Thanks for the input all
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No problem. Also, the HP case is great, but you can get unofficial ones that will work for only a few bucks off of ebay. The main advantage that the HP case has is that the bezel is exposed which is important for the gestures available for WebOS. If you are just going to use it for android, though, this becomes a lot less important. I have the HP BT keyboard and it works great, but I am sure that you can use any BT keyboard. Also, if you can find a touchstone for cheap it is not necessary, but nice but you can wait on that since you are trying to save money.
I would be careful in getting your hopes up though, I don't think that you will find a HPTP for only 150 anymore. I looked at ebay and it looks like it will cost closer to $200
Ah I thought you wanted to be under 400 but yea 150 for the touchpad is tough to beat. Out of budget but just to give u something else to look at Bestbuy has the transformer on sale for 299.
www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960
I personally have the touchpad. With the update HP pushed out a few weeks ago and some of the pre ware available, webos really isn't that bad to use and the browser is, I personally think, the beat browser out on any tablet.
Then, when I'm not in school or on weekends, I boot into android for the apps and the fun.
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i have the NC and touchpad like Drachen808
i agree with his statements, the touchpad is superior in every way and it has fantastic development behind it
I think I would go with a Flyer for $299. With the stylus you could take notes, it's a nice 7" form factor, etc. I wouldn't bother with a Fire or Nook (either) if you are planning to take notes with it.
On the flip side, the iPad 3 and more quad-core Androids will be coming out very soon, which will either provide a better option or it will drive the price of these older ones down.
Why not get a Kindle Fire?
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I have a 32 gig iPad 1 and am looking to trade it for an Android tablet. Someone just offered up their GTablet. It looks great hardware wise but the screen worries me. Without the ability to inspect the unit yet I wanted to go right to the source.
What do you guys really think about the screen and viewing angle on the GTab?
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I have a 32 gig iPad 1 and am looking to trade it for an Android tablet. Someone just offered up their GTablet. It looks great hardware wise but the screen worries me. Without the ability to inspect the unit yet I wanted to go right to the source.
What do you guys really think about the screen and viewing angle on the GTab?
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Honestly, The GTab has the worst viewing angle of all tablets. It is horrible compared to my Xoom and worse compared to my TF. The GTab screen works OK, you just have to be in front of it.
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Honestly, The GTab has the worst viewing angle of all tablets. It is horrible compared to my Xoom and worse compared to my TF. The GTab screen works OK, you just have to be in front of it.
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What angle in degrees does it start to fall off?
You can see it fall away at 10 degrees both vertically and horizontally. And good luck viewing it outside... LOL
It is what it is, a great device to hack on and play with. This was my first Android device and I learned about an OS that I previously had no clue about. That's probably why I still have it.
Guess that pretty much makes my mind up. I'll hold out for something better.
Thanks for the input.
There are definitely better devices out there if you want something that works right out of the box, and there are quite a few devices coming out soon with pricing comparable to the gTablet. The gTablet viewing angle isn't the best, especially since the screen was made for netbooks. That being said, it works fine for me. I knew the shortcomings before getting it, and was expecting worse. It won't be up to par with an iPad at all.
Where the gTablet excels is the ability to tweak it. From the many different ROMs out there (FroYo, Gingerbread, and Honeycomb versions), plus a very active development community working on bringing ICS to the gTablet, it can be a tinkerer's delight.
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I can't even seem to give my gtablet away! I mean jesus christ, I had that on sale for a while... little bites here and there, but no one ends up buying it.. I ended up giving it to my 4 year old daughter to learn stuff... since then, it has been sitting on the nightstand... I mean seriously, I cant give this thing away!!!
I own a gtab. There is no comparison between an ipad (assuming gen 1 because 2 makes no sense) and a gtablet. Ipad is simply a more refined higher quality product with better integrated software esp if you own any other mac products. Still don't think the msrp on an ipad (either gen is worth it for what any tablet offers). The screen issue goes beyond the viewing angle. The screen is sharper on the ipad for reading - especially magazines.
What gtab does very well is have a huge user development base that is on the verge of unleashing ICS for us to play with. After that everything begins and ends with the difference in screen quality and apps.
That said I enjoy my gtab and am in no hurry to upgrade (unless I found someone who wanted to trade an ipad for it) as I can deal with it's limitations vs. the cost I paid to get something with these hardware specs.
ssmr2t: curious what you tried to sell your gtab for. I would think somewhere between 125.00 and 150.00 and it would be gone in a heartbeat unless it's all beat up. But I don't think it's worth more than 150.00 nowadays by any stretch.
tnt533 said:
I have a 32 gig iPad 1 and am looking to trade it for an Android tablet. Someone just offered up their GTablet. It looks great hardware wise but the screen worries me. Without the ability to inspect the unit yet I wanted to go right to the source.
What do you guys really think about the screen and viewing angle on the GTab?
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I haven't turned on my gtab in about three months. Yeah. They suck pretty hard. It has one good viewing angle - dead on, slightly tilted, as if it were attached as a screen for a cheap netbook, which is exactly what it is - the screen from a cheap netbook.
If you want to trade for mine, let me know
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I can't even seem to give my gtablet away! I mean jesus christ, I had that on sale for a while... little bites here and there, but no one ends up buying it.. I ended up giving it to my 4 year old daughter to learn stuff... since then, it has been sitting on the nightstand... I mean seriously, I cant give this thing away!!!
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I'll take it if you want to pay for shipping
srsly though, the viewing angles of the screen suck. if you aren't looking at it at the exact perfect angle part of the screen is just dark. though whatevs, it works for me.
As for an exchange I'd hold off for something better. might be able to get a Xoom.
People on here are crazy to think a first-gen ipad is better than the Gtab. Complain about the screen all you want, iOS is ****e.
I will also pay shipping for that Gtab you can't seem to 'give away'.
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People on here are crazy to think a first-gen ipad is better than the Gtab. Complain about the screen all you want, iOS is ****e.
I will also pay shipping for that Gtab you can't seem to 'give away'.
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So there you have it, the gtab is worth about $10 - the cost to ship it somewhere
Seriously, it's a fine hacking android tegra2 device with no vendor support and flagging xda support. Oh, and that first gen iPad? yeah, it's running iOS5. From Apple. Without any hacking needed at all. And THAT is better than a tablet that was disowned by the reseller (viwesonic) and the ODM (forgot what the Chinese company's name was - malta? whatever) the day it shipped.
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So there you have it, the gtab is worth about $10 - the cost to ship it somewhere
Seriously, it's a fine hacking android tegra2 device with no vendor support and flagging xda support. Oh, and that first gen iPad? yeah, it's running iOS5. From Apple. Without any hacking needed at all. And THAT is better than a tablet that was disowned by the reseller (viwesonic) and the ODM (forgot what the Chinese company's name was - malta? whatever) the day it shipped.
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iOS5 doesn't make it better.
You'd have to pay me to allow itrash in my house.
So there you have it, the ipad1 is worth -$10
Seriously though, I have 7 and 9 years old boys and they ALWAYS choose their Gtabs over grandma and grandpa's ipads, thank goodness!
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iOS5 doesn't make it better.
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No, just supported. Which is worth whatever you deem it to be.
For what it's worth some of us actually like the Gtab...
I use it for work and it's great. It's just as fast as any other tablet I've used. I hold it or have it on my desk, I haven't a clue about whether it works from an angle or not and I really don't know why anyone would care. I guess from this forum some people prefer to look at it that way.
I have Honeycomb on it, VTL launcher, Dropbox and a million programs which if they are any good do what I want. A screen protector which keeps the fingerprints way down and a nice case.
The only issue I have is the weight, too heavy to use as a Kindle.
If it breaks I'll get something different, maybe an Ipad, maybe not.
I threw V6 supercharger on my tab running FB 10.3 and it's made a big difference. Yeah the screen sucks, but it doesn't matter to my 2yo, who is the main user.
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It is almost criminal to say a first gen ipad is even close to being as ****ty as a gtablet.
I own a gtablet and it really is only useful as a play around with android device.
The iPad one is still the second best tablet on the market.
And this is coming from a person who owns a gtablet, droid incredible, and a galaxy nexus.
Put aside your fanboyism before you convince someone to jump into a terrible trade.
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It is almost criminal to say a first gen ipad is even close to being as ****ty as a gtablet.
I own a gtablet and it really is only useful as a play around with android device.
The iPad one is still the second best tablet on the market.
And this is coming from a person who owns a gtablet, droid incredible, and a galaxy nexus.
Put aside your fanboyism before you convince someone to jump into a terrible trade.
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Calling fanboyism on others while stating 2 sentences prior, "The iPad one is still the second best tablet on the market."
Priceless.
There's probably a dozen Android tablets out there that are better than the iPad v1, especially when you consider in price. There are many tablets better than the iPad 1 in specs, price and OS. All they lack is a half masticated fruit logo.
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I currently use the prime daily and i got my GF the nexus 7 for couch browsing and just to have the latest OTA's all the time. However after using it, I really am liking the portability of the size and the performance is so much fast than the prime. Just not sure if i would miss the larger screen.
Yeah, i plan on selling my Prime soon and getting a Nexus 7!
I switched--but I was having horrible problems with my prime. One nexus 7 for me. One nexus 7 for my wife.
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I switched--but I was having horrible problems with my prime. One nexus 7 for me. One nexus 7 for my wife.
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missing the 10inch screen?
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missing the 10inch screen?
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Its coming in September. Not sure of cost yet, but when it comes, my Prime is SO getting sold.
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How are Yall selling your primes/keyboards? Ebay, amazon, craigslist, etc.?
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How are Yall selling your primes/keyboards? Ebay, amazon, craigslist, etc.?
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Due to the reputation of the prime and the release of infinity, the price of the prime is below what I'd like to get out of my prime.
I was able to easily get 500 out of my first transformer on ebay, this time around not so much luck.
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How are Yall selling your primes/keyboards? Ebay, amazon, craigslist, etc.?
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Probably going to stick mine on eBay and Gumtree!
Mine is going on Craigslist & I haven't seen enough reviews on the 7 to get it. I'm looking at getting a ipad or a laptop.
already purchased one through Google play. UPS showed original scan at Ky hub center @ 9:20a.m. now ups shows my device leaving KY, departure scan, @ 2:09p.m.. so its on "In Transit" status now. will arrive for delivery to me tomorrow. can't wait!
oh and im keeping both. No need to get rid of my prime since i have no issues with it. it works great
I'd love to have both, but I'm keeping my prime. The keyboard dock is far too useful to give up. Besides, I have faith in the devs
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I'd love to have both, but I'm keeping my prime. The keyboard dock is far too useful to give up. Besides, I have faith in the devs
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yea both sounds like a good idea.
gonna get the N7, use it for a week or two and wait to hear about JB on prime.. then sell one of the 2.
Anyone want to buy a spare Prime?
Traded in my 3G Vita on one Saturday. So far its been an absolute pleasure to own, exactly what I was expecting.
My Prime, not so much.
Sorry guys, but I see no need on having a tablet without a dock station like the asus transformer line. I mean, a tablet without USB OTG,SD and microSD card reader and mouse pad is just an expensive toy to sit in front of the TV and surf on internet while watching at it. I use my prime both at work and while at school instead of bringing a heavy, big, overheating laptop, not to mention the battery life in the prime is way better. I know , the N7 came with a very good price, and I will buy one as soon as they reach Swedish market, but as I said before, for me it will work just as a toy to surf in front of the TV, no way that it would replace the Prime.
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yea both sounds like a good idea.
gonna get the N7, use it for a week or two and wait to hear about JB on prime.. then sell one of the 2.
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Pretty much the same boat I am in. Buying from staples and they have a 14 day return policy (I think). Not sure if selling my prime would be worth it at this point.
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I am on it right now and I have to say it just outperforms the prime. Idk if its jb or what but everything is just after on the n7
The N7 doesnt seem to have these strange lags caused by the internal memory speed.
Also it scores way better in the benchmarks...
good thing: it uses the same memory as the prime! on paper the same speed ...
http://www.jactron.co.uk/products/emmc-series/commercial-grade-mlc/commercial-grade-25C-+85C/kingston-emmc
lets hope for jellybean and kernel upgrade anywhere soon!
I think what it boils down to is, get what you want period. If you love the prime and it works for you then keep it, want the infinity or 7 then get it.
Nothing is worse than having a tablet and not want it, or you are dissatisfied with it, for whatever reason. Flip side, nothing is better than having a device and really like it.
The prime really doesn't do it for me, I thought it would (it's still is the best looking tablet out bar none) but it just doesn't. In the end I treat it like a business decision, I thought it would be good and it tuned out for me different. Now I'm trying to sell it and move on.
I started using windows 8 and I knew my next tablet device would have it 8 on it. I like everything about it. I think it's the better OS for me and my situation. I could go on an on bashing Asus, but why? I've found what works best for me. But that's just me...
I owned a Galaxy Tab 7" and a PlayBook prior to getting the Prime, and I'm considering the Nexus, but I found the 7" tabs to be too small for web browsing. Personally, I think the Galaxy Tab 8.9" is the best size.
Plus, it's another ASUS product. (My Prime's currently RMA'd to fix the rear camera issue).
I wish HTC had built the Nexus 7. The Nexus One was the best.
Hey guys,
I currently have a nexus 7. I bought it on Tuesday, and I'm loving it so far.
I also pre-ordered one through Google Play the day after I/O and just received that one yesterday.
My question is, should I return them both and just get the TF700T instead? Has anyone had any experience in either devices? I love the little form factor of the Nexus, but seeing as I am in college, the TF700T + dock would seem to make more sense. Does the 10.1" form factor really make that big of a difference on portability? What about weight?
I own an old HP touchpad, but it has a cracked screen + needs to be restored to factory defaults (issues with that, SD mount problems after updating CM9) and I'll probably sell the thing.
What do you guys reccomend? I use my tablet for web browsing, gaming, catching up on tech news and an occasional youtube video/netflix movie. In college I could use it instead of my laptop for most work that doesn't involve programming or running any cisco software (unless I use remote desktop or something)
I also use a Galaxy Nexus for a still pretty large mobile web experience, should I get the TF700T? Also, I couldn't find it anywhere else but tigerdirect or amazon with a markup.
ANY tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
That's hard to answer really. In my opinion, there's a huge difference between the 7 inch and 10 inch tablets. The 10 inch is about twice the size of your nexus 7. Yes, it weighs more too. I use my prime as my primary device, but I don't do any programming. You have to really think about what you're going to use it for. The 7 is perfect for reading and web browsing (most sights), but the 10 is more like a small laptop.
I would not trade my prime for a nexus 7, but the smaller screen doesn't fit what I want. I think a 10 inch device can be your primary, but I don't think the 7 could.
i would take the tf700t over the nexus 7 and it will be updated to jelly bean soon.
My consideration is you need 2 hands to operate nexus 7 anyway, so why don't use a bigger screen instead ... so i'm sticking with my prime.
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Best solution, since you have 2 nexus 7. Return 1. Have a 700 & nexus 7. I have prime+dock & nexus 7. they compliment each other well.
They really can't be compared. 700 more powerful & has bigger high quality screen. but nexus 7 is a powerful little device also. Its no slouch. 7in. Form factor is far more portable.
How exactly does this post belong in this section of the forum? As you might see I am not a heavy poster but I follow the forum very closely. Can you please post on the correct device post, instead of just choosing the most popular in the hope to get more replies.
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How exactly does this post belong in this section of the forum? As you might see I am not a heavy poster but I follow the forum very closely. Can you please post on the correct device post, instead of just choosing the most popular in the hope to get more replies.
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I'm sorry but I did not see a dedicated forum for the TF700T. So where was I supposed to put it, the Nexus 7 forums? Almost everyone there would have said to get the Nexus 7 based on price alone. I feel like the owners of the TF700T would have a better judgement on the subject, having spent a good amount of cash on their tablet.
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Best solution, since you have 2 nexus 7. Return 1. Have a 700 & nexus 7. I have prime+dock & nexus 7. they compliment each other well.
They really can't be compared. 700 more powerful & has bigger high quality screen. but nexus 7 is a powerful little device also. Its no slouch. 7in. Form factor is far more portable.
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technically I have 3 N7's. I have the 2 I have for myself, and I told my mom to get one. So I could use hers when she's not using it if I want to be able to have a 7 inch tablet. But there's no way I am going to keep 2 N7's and a TF700T in my house, kind of a waste of money for someone like me (part time retail salesman and full time college kid).
I think I might just return the N7's and get the TF700T. Where should I order it from?
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technically I have 3 N7's. I have the 2 I have for myself, and I told my mom to get one. So I could use hers when she's not using it if I want to be able to have a 7 inch tablet. But there's no way I am going to keep 2 N7's and a TF700T in my house, kind of a waste of money for someone like me (part time retail salesman and full time college kid).
I think I might just return the N7's and get the TF700T. Where should I order it from?
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Well it's been a very long time (30 years) since I was a "college kid", but I would have thought that the TF700 with the keyboard dock would be a lot more versatile than the N7. And, though the N7 is more portable - carrying around a TF700 + dock won't be difficult. I currently carry around my TF201 and dock in a case and it's still roughly only 3 pounds.
I'd get rid of N7 and take TF700. Actually I bought TF700 already 7 inches and lack of microSD is a deal killer.
You can order TF700 from Amazon or bhphotovideo.com
I'd take one TF700 over two N7's any day.
N7 is just a downsized version of the 300 sans mem expansion whereas the 700 is a step above it. No comparison there.
How is this thread allowed here? Just the other day an N7 thread discussing all of the defects and problems w/ the N7 was removed since it wasn't related to the Prime, but this one is okay? If anything, at least yesterday's thread compared the N7's defects w/ the Prime's defects. This thread literally has nothing to do with the Prime.
Anyway, to answer your question, I'd have to say neither, unless you feel like dealing with a company that practices poor design and has zero quality control:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1770919
However, if you insist on one of these two devices, I'd go with the N7. The hardware may be falling apart (i.e., read about the display defects in the threads above), but at least the software is rock solid since it's done by Google and not Asus.
does the Nexus 7 suffer from the poor I/O performance that the Prime does?
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does the Nexus 7 suffer from the poor I/O performance that the Prime does?
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no. on rl sqlite benchmark I scored 33 secs. overall on I/O performance(I posted the screenshot in another thread). that put my nexus 7 at the top of the list. other nexus 7 owners have scored similar also. prime issue is likely software/driver wise still.
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does the Nexus 7 suffer from the poor I/O performance that the Prime does?
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I own the Transformer Prime, and just purchased a Nexus 7 for my daughter (11 years old)
If I/O performance refers to how long it takes to transfer data between my PC and the tablet, I'd say they both perform pretty much the same.
I've copied movies to both devices, and it does take a few minutes. However, they're between 700MB and 1.2GB in size, so I'm not that surprised or bothered about the slow transfer.
Haven't done any scientific tests, but based on general use, I don't find transferring data/files to the Nexus7 noticeably faster then when I transfer to my Transformer Prime (and I usually use AirDroid, so I transfer wirelessly, which I'm sure is slower then via cable)
Nexus7 is a fantastic device, and my daughter loves it! I wasn't willing to spend $500 for her, and I also felt the smaller size was a better fit.
She does lose a front camera, and microSD slot. She still has a camera for Skype, which she uses a lot, and the tablet has a beautiful display, and is buttery smooth!
It's an amazing device for the price! (not letting my Prime go, however)
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I own the Transformer Prime, and just purchased a Nexus 7 for my daughter (11 years old)
If I/O performance refers to how long it takes to transfer data between my PC and the tablet, I'd say they both perform pretty much the same.
I've copied movies to both devices, and it does take a few minutes. However, they're between 700MB and 1.2GB in size, so I'm not that surprised or bothered about the slow transfer.
Haven't done any scientific tests, but based on general use, I don't find transferring data/files to the Nexus7 noticeably faster then when I transfer to my Transformer Prime (and I usually use AirDroid, so I transfer wirelessly, which I'm sure is slower then via cable)
Nexus7 is a fantastic device, and my daughter loves it! I wasn't willing to spend $500 for her, and I also felt the smaller size was a better fit.
She does lose a front camera, and microSD slot. She still has a camera for Skype, which she uses a lot, and the tablet has a beautiful display, and is buttery smooth!
It's an amazing device for the price! (not letting my Prime go, however)
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I based what I said off of benchmark scoring(from me n others in nexus 7 forum) and playstore downloads and installs. The apps download & install on nexus 7 alot faster than on prime. Plus the lag is nowhere to be seen on nexus 7 during the download/install of apps/games, unlike the prime. I can have all that going on in background of nexus 7 while doing other things and nothing will freeze up or lag.
Speed transfer from prime or nexus to a pc will be nerfed from it using MTP mode. If mounted as a USB mass storage device, like how it was on older android builds, those transfer speeds would be alot faster.(from what I've heard and read up here in xda)
I cant let my prime go either. But MY nexus 7 has definitely been stealing attention away from my prime. I used my prime earlier but had to put it up and take my nexus 7 off the charger. I'm really liking this 7in. Form factor. Far more portable and easier/lighter to hold. Not too small either(Im 6'5 with big hands so typing on Nexus 7 with thumb keyboard is seamless).
Ditch em now and get one again later
If either are a 16 GB Nexus 7, sell them on eBay and get more than retail for them (or at least equal to retail, assuming they are in pristine condition).
Take money and buy TF700 with dock.
When fervor for Nexus 7 comes down, go buy another one to fill your 7" tablet needs. You may or may not want to get one after you have a TF700. I have the TF201 and I'm trying to tell myself why I don't need a 7" tablet. I think I just want to **** with Jelly Bean. Hell I still might just up and buy an 8 GB just for the hell of it and gift it to my dad when the newness wears off.
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If either are a 16 GB Nexus 7, sell them on eBay and get more than retail for them (or at least equal to retail, assuming they are in pristine condition).
Take money and buy TF700 with dock.
When fervor for Nexus 7 comes down, go buy another one to fill your 7" tablet needs. You may or may not want to get one after you have a TF700. I have the TF201 and I'm trying to tell myself why I don't need a 7" tablet. I think I just want to **** with Jelly Bean. Hell I still might just up and buy an 8 GB just for the hell of it and gift it to my dad when the newness wears off.
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this. I already decided I'm going to get the TF700T. And I've put them on both Ebay and craigslist, no bites so far but hopefully someone buys them. If not I'll just return them within my 2 week time frame.
I'm going to try the TF700T. I read ALL about Asus's quality control issues, and if I can deal with the I/O issues, I'll keep the TF700T. if not, I'll return it and get a galaxy note 10.1 when they come out
Anyone else keeping tabs on the Nexus 7 forums? Asus' crappy quality control is killing many of their users too. There are multiple people who have done multiple exchanges and keep getting units with separated glass (the primary issue), lines of dead pixels, unresponsive touch screens, and blown speakers. I predict this is the last Nexus device we'll see made by Asus. Persistent perfection! Ha.
So, do you think the Flyer/View is outdated/slow/etc. or a fine, great tablet?
Or even, are you getting a new tablet to work alongside it?
And why?
Personally, I got the Flyer just at the end of August and enjoying using it since day 1. Liked the experience on Gingerbread, but now I realize how much better it is on Honeycomb (and soon it may get better thanks to ROM cookers and Jelly Bean), and I if someone would offer me to get any new tablet that is currently on the market - I certainly wouldn't rush to the nearest tech store, and I'm considering keeping the Flyer for a coming year/year and a half (maybe less, don't know yet). If I am to get a new tablet - it would probably be N7 or some of the medium-end/high-end Acer 10" tablets. Samsung is simply not my choice at all.
If there was any hope of getting ICS or Jellybean on the Flyer/View in the foreseeable future I'd stick with my View, but that doesn't seem too likely. I've got my eye on the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1.
I'm kinda curious about the iPad mini that may be coming out in October. If its good and competitively priced for a 7", I might consider it just for the support and updates. I became fatigued with the anticipation, worry, and letdown that is HTC. I still can't play videos from AOL homepage and the HuffingtonPost website basically freezes my tablet- I had to learn what websites I can and can't use with my View HC. I just want my stuff to work, that's all I ask- especially when all I'm doing is surfing the internet. If apple really listened and shrunk the iPad to a more convenient size, I will reward them with my money. Now, if they would just team up with wacom for the perfect stylus. I initially overlooked apple because it couldn't play flash videos, but now that apparently flash is being phased out and apple products can play most internet videos and content, I'm willing to consider their products again.
The flyer serves my needs but my experience with it will keep me from buying from HTC again
Flyer
Jumped on an Acer A500 on Redtag.com that works fairly well for sub-$200 (refurbed). It's not my daily tool though; the Flyer still rarely leaves my side. But for multi-media/light gaming needs, the A500 is doing nicely. But I won't take a 10" tablet on public transporation in the city; that's asking to become a statistic (IMO).
The 7" is still perfect for ebook reading, keeping up on emails and social networks, and not only is it 3G, I can tether it to my phone for 4G connectivity.
I think and option is missing from the poll; "Getting a new one to work alongside the Flyer."
ya Im thinking of it....I never buy Samsung sh**s...Probably N7 will my next.......Flyer is good...I want to taste JB.....thasts y i'm going to change...
The flyer really suits my needs, small Tab with pen. But Honeycomb is full of issues. And the other problem is, I can't afford to buy every year a US$500 tablet. And even now after HTC "broke" it, the resell prices are also bad for the Flyer.
Well I can't remember ever felt such a disappointment with a company so, I'm going to avoid HTC. Also the people next to me,
In future I'm just going to buy Nexus devices, I think they offered the best customer experience
So HTC you made it, your problem management is "outstanding"! You just don't answer.... coward company.
New tablets may be $400+, but refurbs are around the $200 mark. I laid my hands on a refurbed A500 16GB for less than $200 shipped. The coolest thing about this tablet is the full-sized USB port on the side that pushes enough juice to power a 2.5" SATA drive. It's an older processor, but ICS works nicely.
The bottom line is to get a new tablet you don't need to buy new to get decent performance, nor do you need to buy every year.
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New tablets may be $400+, but refurbs are around the $200 mark. I laid my hands on a refurbed A500 16GB for less than $200 shipped. The coolest thing about this tablet is the full-sized USB port on the side that pushes enough juice to power a 2.5" SATA drive. It's an older processor, but ICS works nicely.
The bottom line is to get a new tablet you don't need to buy new to get decent performance, nor do you need to buy every year.
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How about A510?
They didn't have any A510 at the time, though it's this year's model, so probably not a lot on the refurbed market yet.
I have not been been looking for a new tablet. However, if Google releases a 32gb nexus 7 for $250, i will probably go for it.
PS They might also also be releasing a 4G version at the end of October.
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I have not been been looking for a new tablet. However, if Google releases a 32gb nexus 7 for $250, i will probably go for it.
PS They might also also be releasing a 4G version at the end of October.
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I wanna Nexus 7. Even if it will be without 3G, 4G.
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I'm kinda curious about the iPad mini that may be coming out in October. If its good and competitively priced for a 7", I might consider it just for the support and updates. I became fatigued with the anticipation, worry, and letdown that is HTC. I still can't play videos from AOL homepage and the HuffingtonPost website basically freezes my tablet- I had to learn what websites I can and can't use with my View HC. I just want my stuff to work, that's all I ask- especially when all I'm doing is surfing the internet. If apple really listened and shrunk the iPad to a more convenient size, I will reward them with my money. Now, if they would just team up with wacom for the perfect stylus. I initially overlooked apple because it couldn't play flash videos, but now that apparently flash is being phased out and apple products can play most internet videos and content, I'm willing to consider their products again.
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I do hope you realize Apple never prices anything competitively...
Well my brother has a nexus 7, i tried it and its awesome!!!
But i can do everything i need to do with my flyer. of course flyer can be better, hope for a new update from htc (yeah no ics, but didnt they say they still gonna give support? dunno how , just hoping) or a good custom rom ics/jb.
im not aware of the tablets these days, except for the nexus.
next tablet? dont know. gonna fly till it dies haha.
would be nice if in the future there will be a nexus with pen functions like flyer.
A Nexus with Pen, that's my wish too
Nexus will be great with Galaxy Note 10.1's Pen.
It is better that Magic Pen.
The HTC experiense was bad for me.Being used to the OTA updates on my nexus s.
Already sold the Flyer for 150 euro and bought the Nexus 7. I will surely get the OTA for the next 2 years. No need for rooting,
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I do hope you realize Apple never prices anything competitively...
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Yeah $329 was quite disappointing. No way I can justify it when the wifi only model is that expensive. I'll probably look into the nexus 7. Although, I started using an internet browser app that has given my View 4g hope. It's called Puffin and its pretty fast and plays all the flash I throw at it. Another plus for the View 4g is that I can use the Sprint Zone app and purchase the no contract/commitment data plan- hopefully that's just like prepaid. As for the nexus 7, I was disappointed that it doesn't natively support flash, have a microSD card slot, or have HDMI out. But it's still a great tablet, especially if they sell it for $99 for an 8gb model.
I just bought a galaxy note 2 to replace my galaxy nexus and it looks like it will replace my HTC flyer too. It does have a smaller screen but it is much more friendly and has a few more features that the flyer does not.