[Q] bad read and write speeds - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi ive got a genuine 32gb samsung class 10 micro sd that i ordered from play.com im doing some speed test and im only getting 13mb read and 11mb write speeds would it be because im using a old sd card reader?
thanks in advance

exfat as you can transfer files above 4gb if you are going to watch 720p movies or even 1080p movies. fat32 restricts you to only 4gb files. so yh exfat all the way. i think the siyah kernel can read ntfs, im not too sure. But yh exfat is the way to go.

Are you talking Mb (Megabit) or MB (Megabyte, 1MB = 8 Mb)
(The first letter is always in upper, since a lower-case m means milli which equals 0.001 instead of Mega which equals 1'000'000)
I'd guess MB: Class-10 cards have a minimum Write speed of 10 MB/s so you're still in the boundaries.
Also note that a card that has once been filled already is slower than a "virgin" card.
But of course old SD-card readers can make a difference.

Related

Lexar SD 256MB 32X Speed or SanDisk 512MB SD

I want to buy a sd card but i m not sure which one is better
Lexar SD 256MB 32X Speed (about 70$) or
SanDisk 512MB SD (about 106$)
512 mb looks great choice but the other is high speed ???????????
i need your comments
sandisk is not know for it's speed as it is
but very fast SD cards will never reach their top speed
in the xda their sd interface is not fast enough
if you search the forum you'll find some guy who did some tests
think the sd card did 10MB /sec in the sdcard reader on the pc
and only about 1.3 MB /sec in the xda
not all that impressive
And for the XDAII? Waht is the speed of the port?
well i forget if it were tests made on the xda1 or 2
but arm 200 which the xda 1 have dont have a nativ interface
for sd so it use an external chip and the xcale 400 that the
xda2 have have a native interface
too bad that nativ interface is WAY slower then the external chips
pda's used to use
there were some posts before xmas about places where the xda it would be way faster then the xda2
but that was in the old forum not sure if those posts are lost now
here is a line from a writing about xscale's performance on ipaq
which i asume would be the same for xda2 unless they added a mem controller and dident use the internal xscale one
Because the XScale CPU itself contains an MMC controller that supports SD and SDIO, and that's almost certainly what HP is using, rather than adding a chip of their own. MMC and SD are very similar, almost identical. The difference is that MMC uses a 1-bit data bus, and SD uses a 4-bit bus. See, we're back to buses again. Since the XScale's controller is MMC-based, the new iPAQs will have 1-bit bus transfer rates. Hang on to your CF sleeves for big data.
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from
http://www.writingonyourpalm.net/column020624.htm
ogn said:
I want to buy a sd card but i m not sure which one is better
Lexar SD 256MB 32X Speed (about 70$) or
SanDisk 512MB SD (about 106$)
512 mb looks great choice but the other is high speed ???????????
i need your comments
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I got a Billington 512MB SD card 40x speed. It is OK. Cost about SGD$245.

Difference bet. speed of 256MB and 512MB SD Card?

Hi all,
I need your opinion. I'm planning to buy a Sandisk 512MB SD Card. How much does it compare with the 256SD Card with regards to speed? Is reading/writing much slower because of its bigger size? BTW my device is XDA. Thanks
My understanding of speed diffs
I don't think 256 vs 512 will make speed differences. The speed differences come between specific cards. My brief research yesterday suggested to me that SanDisk are kinda slow, even the Ultra II cards. It seems the fastest card, consistently, is the Panasonic. I have a plain 256MB sandisk card it PocketMechanic benchmarks it at 0.7x. I will test my new Panasonic card when it arrives later today (hopefully!).
Just for comparison, Lexar 32x cards are rated at 4.8MB/s, the Panasonic is supposedly rated at 10MB/s.
Another data point, I saw a discussion on Amazon.com reviews about the SanDisk 512 and somebody stating it was faster than the 256.
All this leads to: you really need to benchmark the specific cards you are interested in to see if they meet your speed needs. Speed is really variable, people talking about a single process that takes 45 minutes on one card and just like 1 minute on another card (brand).
Got the panasonic card
I got the panasonic card. It writes at "2.9x" as opposed to "0.7x" I got with the stock sandisk. That is better than 4 times the speed. Benchmarked using Pocket Mechanic on an XDA.

SD Card formatting

Hey guys
Recently I got a new 8Gb Kingston microSD as a present. On it, it says the card is class 4, which should be faster than the one we get with our HDs. Copying to and from it seems dreadfuly slow for some reason, slower than the sandisk one. Is there any special way to format it to gain more speed, or special setting for the format? Thanks.
If someone wrote от a label: speed is xxx, it does not mean, that this card is really fast. And, as far as I know you cannot increase your card speed by software.
Sandisk is more trustful for me than Kingston. I don't insist, just my own experience.
As a matter of fact, when I got my HD, card included was class 6 Transcend, fast enough.
Of course you can try full format, say, using a Big Brother's cardreader.
while formating try changing cluster size to 64kb instead of 32kb default
hopefully it will solve the problem ......
There is a speed bottle neck on the phone. So the speed of SD Card is not so important on phone rather tban on compufer. If I am not wrong, HTC HD phone max out at class 2

[Q] best allocation unit size for microsdhc?

in win7 i can choose between 32k and the new 64k when formatting the card. which should I do which is best for the phone,or should I just format it in recovery?
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in win7 i can choose between 32k and the new 64k when formatting the card. which should I do which is best for the phone,or should I just format it in recovery?
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What file format? FAT32?
Generally I just leave it at the stock settings, which I believe is 4K allocation unit size. Android runs off a ton of smaller files, I think the larger allocation unit sizing is just going to be inefficient on space. Since this is flash based storage there probably is going to be minimal or no performance differences, I would think.
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nevermind, I need to read things first. For the SDCARD, which is mostly general storage, small file sizes arent likely a reason to opt for 4k over 32k or 64k, but I still don't know if you'll get any performance gain. Honestly, try both and benchmark them. Let us know if one is for some reason significantly better than the others..
I just benchmarked 14 tests between both 32K and 64K allocation unit sizes and 7 different caches between 128 and 4096. The sweet spot for me was 64K when formatting the card and setting sd-booster to 4096. my card is a 32gb lexar sdhc class 10. I get roughly 9.1 for write and 22.6 for read.
What did you use to format? When I put my 64gb sdxc card I got a message saying the card is damaged would you like to format it and I said why yes, I would like to format it and it just did it without any options. All I know is that it formatted as FAT32. Can I check in the phone what allocation unit size it is at?
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What did you use to format? When I put my 64gb sdxc card I got a message saying the card is damaged would you like to format it and I said why yes, I would like to format it and it just did it without any options. All I know is that it formatted as FAT32. Can I check in the phone what allocation unit size it is at?
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no you cant check on the device. the options are in windows7 in the format screen
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no you cant check on the device. the options are in windows7 in the format screen
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Okay, thanks. I formatted in the phone since I figured it would format it properly. I saw that it was FAT32 when I was putting some music on it but never check anything further than that.
Antutu Benchmark results (my card is class 6):
Write - (5.0 MB/s) 50
Read - (5.7 MB/s) 57
Internal card results:
Write - (7.0 MB/s) 70
Read - (6.4 MB/s) 64
I have no idea if that's good or bad. My first smartphone so I've never had to pay that much attention to this stuff.
Were your speeds MB/s also? If so, maybe I'll try reformatting, although mine is class 6 so I don't know how much to allow for that.
I also saw something about Android OS supposedly not supporting more than 32gb but mine is 64gb. Would that be a factor?
Allocation size should be based on "average file size"
If apps, keep it smaller, or the normal 4k. Music/movies, you can up it a few notches.
Benchmarking this with benchmark programs are useless as they have preset small files they use to bench the speeds. Being flash memory, allocation size will also most likely put forth no noticeable speed difference on already speed limited SD cards. if seektime mattered, allocation would also. in our cases allocation only has the effect of potentially wasting space.
just use the smallest allocation size for the most use of the space on your card. you select higher allocation unit sizes, all the teeny files android and apps use will take up the amount of space equal to the allocation size, regardless of its true size (4k allocation means ALL files take a minimum of 4K, or in increments of 4K. therefore files <4k take 4k, 4+ to 8 take 8k, 8+ to 12 take 12k.)
Yes 64gb cards are usually fine on aneroid. What are keeping on there, pron???
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Yes 64gb cards are usually fine on aneroid. What are keeping on there, pron???
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I never keep pron on my aneroid. I wouldn't know how to get it on/in (?) there!
lol mmm Pron

[Review/Benchmarks] SanDisk microSDXC Class 10 UHS-I (several versions available)

Mini Review:
All these cards come at the speeds they're advertised at. HOWEVER, and this is very important!: It should be noted that the R/W speeds will differ greatly depending on if you're running exFAT or NTFS.
Benchmarks:
See below for the speeds, though you should keep in mind that your average tablet or phone will most likely throttle the speeds since the voltage output is way lower than on a desk/laptop.
Benchmarks for 128GB 45MB/s, 128GB 80MB/s, 200GB 90MB/s using exFAT:
Benchmarks for 128GB 45MB/s, 128GB 80MB/s, 200GB 90MB/s using NTFS:
I use my trusty Silicon Power USB 3.0 AIO card reader for these tests in case anyone is curious. See attached pictures below for reference when buying say off shady sites or retailers as fakes are easy to come by.
Thanks for the info!
Do you think there is any advantage in getting a microSD card with faster Read/Write speed. such as the Samsung Evo+ or Pro? or is the Read speed limited by the Shield K1's microSD slot?
If you are using marshmallow (6.0) the faster write speeds can be advantageous when using the SD card as internal storage. Apps on the SD card will use the SD card for writing temp files.
schmacky said:
Thanks for the info!
Do you think there is any advantage in getting a microSD card with faster Read/Write speed. such as the Samsung Evo+ or Pro? or is the Read speed limited by the Shield K1's microSD slot?
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Depends on what you're after really. If you only plan on filling it up with Plex/media content, then speed shouldn't be an issue for most once it's there. But if you plan on writing 100GB worth of content back and forth daily, then I would recommend a faster sdcard.
If you plan on using it as internal storage in conjunction with the internal one (feature introduced with 6.0) then I would also recommend a faster card so it matches the eMMC onboard storage speed since it's faster than this sdcard I currently have, not to mention if you plan on gaming (Android and or Shield only games) a lot on this device. For emulathors and stuff this card is enough.
Has anybody some experience with one of those?
-SanDisk Extreme Pro microSDXC (up to 95MB/Sec, Class 10, U3)
-Kingston SDCA3/64GB microSDHC/SDXC (UHS-I U3, 90R/80W)
According to this fairly recent comparison and benchmarks, they are one of the best:
http://www.techfunology.com/electro...for-photography-action-cams-and-videocameras/
I will hopefully update the thread with the 128GB 80MB/s version as of tomorrow as I managed to snag one for a little over 50€ (Remember, EU here! We have no luxury with 200GB microSD cards being sold for the same price or having 1 gallon of whatever costing the same as 1L of equivalent substance).
edit: no package until monday... sadface.jpg.
poo any decent 64gb cards? was looking at the Samsung evo or SanDisk Ultra 64 GB up to 80 Mbps
@ady702: actually yes.
I made a short benchmark of my 64GB Kingston card (that I mentioned above already):
Results: SD Card - Performance comparison ExFAT vs. NTFS (Benchmark)
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@ady702: actually yes.
I made a short benchmark of my 64GB Kingston card (that I mentioned above already):
Results: SD Card - Performance comparison ExFAT vs. NTFS (Benchmark)
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so the Kingston would be better than the other two? or is it down to the formatting?
It just means, the Kingston is good.
Though, the thread particularly only tells you that you should format sd cards as NTFS.

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