[Q] What gets changed when you root via TeamEpic's Package? - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

Sprint Galaxy S3 here...
I've been suffering from phone lockups while rooted. These crashes prevent me from exiting sleep and require me to either hold down the power button for 10s or remove the battery. If I unroot (and run the latest L710PALG2 FW), the problem goes away. (My /DATA hasn't been wiped either when I unrooted and updated.)
What exactly gets changed when you root the phone using TeamEpic's root recovery?
I know that CWM replaces the recovery image.
I know that SU, SuperUser, and Busybox get installed.
But what else gets changed?
I assume that the kernel gets changed. Maybe that's my problem? Does the kernel get patched? Is the root only compatble with L710VPALEN and not L710VPLF9? Did the latest firmware (L710PALG2) stealth-fix my problem and I should attempt to re-root?
Please help. I'm trying to avoid having to send in my phone via RMA to fix this issue.

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Okay guys I'm really lost here.

Stock 2.1 -> Rooted that with Ryan's OCLF
Did Lag Fix V1 cause V2 didn't work..
Everything ran..and ran... then that OTA update came while I was at school
It kept installing then restarting and looping itself...Finally I believe it installed and stopped asking me to reinstall.
My phone shows it has the Update, yet my phone isnt rooted anymore...Yet I still have the lag fix installed. I tried running the update.zip in recovery and it says signature failure. I try booting into clockwork to apply that update ROM that is posted and nothing happens. I hit boot into Recovery with ROM Manager and nothing happens.. I'm really confused..It's like I have partially rooted things like Lagfix on yet I'm not rooted and I cant root my phone ??
Anyone got an idea?
Thank you everyone.
Um, I think you're confused about what root really is. Being rooted just means that you have permissions (and the applications necessary) to modify protected areas of the OS. Even if you lost root access, the lag fix remains because the filesystem modifications to put it in place are already done. The extra commands it adds are run by the system itself during boot up, which of course has root access. It's not like an app that needs to request root access via Superuser every time it runs.
I'm not sure what has actually happened to your phone, but I would recommend rooting the old-fashioned way, via advanced commands, so that you don't have to deal with any recovery issues. If that doesn't work, you may have to flash back to factory stock and start over again.
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johnz1 said:
Stock 2.1 -> Rooted that with Ryan's OCLF
Did Lag Fix V1 cause V2 didn't work..
Everything ran..and ran... then that OTA update came while I was at school
It kept installing then restarting and looping itself...Finally I believe it installed and stopped asking me to reinstall.
My phone shows it has the Update, yet my phone isnt rooted anymore...Yet I still have the lag fix installed. I tried running the update.zip in recovery and it says signature failure. I try booting into clockwork to apply that update ROM that is posted and nothing happens. I hit boot into Recovery with ROM Manager and nothing happens.. I'm really confused..It's like I have partially rooted things like Lagfix on yet I'm not rooted and I cant root my phone ??
Anyone got an idea?
Thank you everyone.
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Flash CMW recovery via Odin. Then do the following..
adb shell (you should have the # prompt, if not su)
cd /system/xbin (or /system/bin if your files are there)
chmod 4755 su
chmod 4755 busybox
all done.
Thankyou very much brandon

[Q] Randomly lost root access

I recently got s-off, updated from 1.15 to 2.06, installed abp and also flashed a no ads zip file for good measure because some ads would still get through. Everything was going great until the phone randomly froze. I held down the power button and rebooted into recovery and cleared my cache and dalvik cache, thinking that may have been the problem. Upon rebooting after that, I come to find out I've lost my root access. This is so weird. I am still s-off and have the 2222222 confirmation shown when I am in the bootloader, I still have super user installed, but when I run an app that needs root, such as adaway, it says I don't have root. I downloaded root checker and it confirmed that I didn't have root. I don't understand how this could have happened. Is there anyway to regain root? I have been having the worst luck with this phone :\
terrorist96 said:
I recently got s-off, updated from 1.15 to 2.06, installed abp and also flashed a no ads zip file for good measure because some ads would still get through. Everything was going great until the phone randomly froze. I held down the power button and rebooted into recovery and cleared my cache and dalvik cache, thinking that may have been the problem. Upon rebooting after that, I come to find out I've lost my root access. This is so weird. I am still s-off and have the 2222222 confirmation shown when I am in the bootloader, I still have super user installed, but when I run an app that needs root, such as adaway, it says I don't have root. I downloaded root checker and it confirmed that I didn't have root. I don't understand how this could have happened. Is there anyway to regain root? I have been having the worst luck with this phone :\
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Send me a PM if you want me to help you out. You need to install a custom recovery and use that to install a rooted rom and kernel. It can be a stock rooted rom. Or mostly stock however you want to do it, I'll help you set it up and teach you some things along the way.
I can teach you all kinds of things via team viewer, it wont take long and it's a necessity for having a rooted phone in my opinion. I know it can be frustrating and over whelming but it will get better I promise.
Oh and also you don't need to worry about losing s off. It's at a much lower level than anything you've mentioned touching. So it will always be there regardless because you definitely don't want to be messing with hboots or s off type stuff.
Hey, I PMed you.
Try uninstalling superuser and installing either supersu or the other superuser.
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I can't uninstall my Superuser unless I use Titanium Backup. I tried installing SuperSU (while still having my original Superuser installed) and the SuperSU said that "There is no SU binary installed"
terrorist96 said:
I can't uninstall my Superuser unless I use Titanium Backup. I tried installing SuperSU (while still having my original Superuser installed) and the SuperSU said that "There is no SU binary installed"
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I got your PM. I'll pick your brain about the ideal setup for your needs and how you use the DNA via gtalk. Then we'll make a plan of attack and you can update the thread with your solutions opinions etc.
As long as your opinion of me is good. Otherwise, it's prohibited. I have a green title and seniority rules
HTC EVO CyanogenMod Cant use BEATS AUDIO
CharliesTheMan said:
Send me a PM if you want me to help you out. You need to install a custom recovery and use that to install a rooted rom and kernel. It can be a stock rooted rom. Or mostly stock however you want to do it, I'll help you set it up and teach you some things along the way.
I can teach you all kinds of things via team viewer, it wont take long and it's a necessity for having a rooted phone in my opinion. I know it can be frustrating and over whelming but it will get better I promise.
Oh and also you don't need to worry about losing s off. It's at a much lower level than anything you've mentioned touching. So it will always be there regardless because you definitely don't want to be messing with hboots or s off type stuff.
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I need help with rooting my HTC EVO to stock or CyanogenMod. With CyanogenMod my phone will not play audio/BEATS or will not open
PLAYSTORE.
How to get root back after subsequent apps are denied root?
Over the last year, this has happened several times while having different custom roms installed. It happened several times with my Galaxy S4 and S5, and recently with my Galaxy Tab S 10.5. I have not lost root on my Nexus 7 (2013). The common denominator appears to be the Samsung devices.
Through SuperSu, I have removed root, rebooted, and installed root again with CF-Root which has not given me root access.
The only way I have been able to recover to date is to do a factory rest. It is interesting to note that I would have thought that the factory rest would take me back to the Samsung rom but in the last two time that I did this on either device, I ended up with the custom rom that I just had but without root or custom recovery.
To go back to a Samsung rom, I would think that if I started the device in download mode and did a flash with odin.
But rather than go through this, is there a reason why this happens and/or is there a way to avoid it?
Lastly, is there a true way of getting root back once it stops granting root?
cyaclone said:
How to get root back after subsequent apps are denied root?
Over the last year, this has happened several times while having different custom roms installed. It happened several times with my Galaxy S4 and S5, and recently with my Galaxy Tab S 10.5. I have not lost root on my Nexus 7 (2013). The common denominator appears to be the Samsung devices.
Through SuperSu, I have removed root, rebooted, and installed root again with CF-Root which has not given me root access.
The only way I have been able to recover to date is to do a factory rest. It is interesting to note that I would have thought that the factory rest would take me back to the Samsung rom but in the last two time that I did this on either device, I ended up with the custom rom that I just had but without root or custom recovery.
To go back to a Samsung rom, I would think that if I started the device in download mode and did a flash with odin.
But rather than go through this, is there a reason why this happens and/or is there a way to avoid it?
Lastly, is there a true way of getting root back once it stops granting root?
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Best to post such things in your device specific forum.
This forum is for the Droid DNA.
However, gaining root is as simple as downloading the latest SuperSu zip and flashing it in recovery.
Very simple to do on any rom.

[Q] Lock icon on boot and system is detecting custom firmware

Hey Guys,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S4 from Verizon and have followed the guide on how to root it posted on the forums. For a while things were good. My phone booted up with the correct loading screen and my device detected that I was on an official kernel. Now for reasons I'm not sure of, my phone is saying that the kernel is custom and the lock icon has returned when I restart or cold boot my phone. I'm not running custom firm ware, I'm running a stock Verizion kernel. I tried to delete SuperUser, but it isn't installed. My binaries for SuperSU are up-to-date. I'm still rooted, but I would like to get rid of the unlock icon when I boot up and I would like to get the system to recognize that this is an official kernel.
Also ES File Explorer is unable to mount r/w privilages on my phone in order to delete busybox and su so that I could try to re-root the phone again. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!
Theres no way so far to get rid of it. Mine actually goes back and for between custom and official all the time. Maybe when the bootloader gets unlocked it will do away with it, but until then it does no harm. So if you want to root, that's the price we pay.
sneekerpimpz said:
Theres no way so far to get rid of it. Mine actually goes back and for between custom and official all the time. Maybe when the bootloader gets unlocked it will do away with it, but until then it does no harm. So if you want to root, that's the price we pay.
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Most of the time mine is gone. Maybe once a week I might see it.
sneekerpimpz said:
Theres no way so far to get rid of it. Mine actually goes back and for between custom and official all the time. Maybe when the bootloader gets unlocked it will do away with it, but until then it does no harm. So if you want to root, that's the price we pay.
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So I managed to get rid of it. I'm not sure if it's permanent, but here's what I did. I couldn't delete the stuff in the root directory (and this was before I found solid explorer which has better root access programming than es does). So I did a factory reset and found that that worked for a while, but then I noticed that downloading Triangle Away seemed to be causing the problem because the lock icon returned after I installed it and gave it root access. So I deleted it and chose the 'unroot' option from the list of options in supersu. Then I re-rooted the phone using the guide. Now the lock icon hasn't returned, and the device status under the about phone menu says that my firmware is the official one. Another thing I noticed is that I'm running an older version of busybox (version 1.17.1 I think, as installed by motochopper).
Again I'm not sure what I did differently, or changed as a result of my method, but it seems to have worked. Perhaps someone with more development knowledge can let me know what's happened for my own personal information.

[Q] Galaxy S3 i9305 on 4.3 losing root mode on reboot

(I cant post to the original thread, but im hoping someone here can help me please?)
Ive rooted 6 or so different android phones mainly using cf-autoroot, including an i9300, and never had any issues. But I have had a few issues rooting my 9503 using the cf-autoroot method (method #1 in this post). It aooeared to work, but SuperSU subsequently fell over, and Knox complained but after reading other posts I rectified that, but obviously not quite correctly:
After using cf-autoroot, SuperSU DID NOT appear in the apps list, but Google Play said it was installed but only presented the option to open it (not update or remove).
So I then tried flashing twrp (as per method #2 in this post) which all appeared to go successfully according to Odin. I was expecting to install superSU updater, as per step 3, but recovery mode appeared unchanged/stock so of course I couldnt flash anything as there was no option to do so. Yet there were no errors reported by Odin?
So I then got hold of the app file for SuperSU 1.93 and installed it (via Airdroid). It ran. It found knox. It removed it, and root was installed successfully (as verified by root checkers, titanium backup, droid wall and the like). So I concluded I had successfully rooted my 9305.
But when I reboot SuperSU falls over again on boot up, and the version I added via Airdroid has disappeared, and of course there is no root mode.
But I can then restore root access after a reboot simply by following the same process, namley installing the supersu apk via Airdroid.
Can anyone suggest what is the easiest way to get round this, or even why it's happening? And why is the later version of SuperSU disappearing on reboot?
non persistent SU after rooting Android 4.3 - solved
OK, so Im still unsure how I ended up successfully rooted ,but then reverting back to a non-working or incompatible SU version on reboot (presumably the version installed via cf-root?). It's news to me that an app installed via standard means can be overridden for any reason on reboot. One day someone might explain that or tell me the appropriate phrase to use for my friend google so he can explain it to me.
So what I was then trying to do was install a custom recovery so I could flash the latest SU, as per OP. Try as I might I cant. Even removing the battery once TWRP has been transferred using Odin the standard recovery still prevails. So that one is still unresolved.
But in the meantime, as with most well written apps, the answer is within SU itself. Going into Options in the Su installed via the standard app installer, I selected the option to install that SU as a binary. And it worked, so now SU persists across reboots.
Just in case someone else has the same issue, although judging by all the replies I suspect not (or maybe everyone else is able to post to the original thread, although I dont see this exact problem or solutio there).
If it didnt help anyone, sorry for wasting your time!
Hi,
I have the same problem : my root is lost after each reboot.
I must uninstall SuperSU, then update SuperSU end reboot to have the root again.
Could you give me your solution with simple words because I don't understand what you posted befort. Sorry for my bad english ...
Thanks.

[Q] Need Stock Recovery

Hi guys,
I rooted my phone a month ago using Kingo Root, it works fine. So I un-rooted now and restarted the phone and it says "custom" when I go to Settings - Status, etc.. I factory reset the phone and it still says custom! weird.
I don't know why this is happening, when I had an S4 and used Kingo Root to root it says custom but upon un-rooting the phone returned to Normal.
Does anyone have a stock recovery img to flash? or a way to solve this? I would like to be able to check for updates.
I have the C101 International version.
Thanks
Have you tried installing a stock ROM with Odin software? It should resolve the problem! have you tried it?

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