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This is an undervolt test version of my new StupidFast Kernel v1.2.3. This is a TEST release (NO VOODOO). This kernel aims to be fast, compatible, stable, and have good battery life. It is based on my StupidFast v1.0.36.
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Changes since 1.2.2:
Fix for the 0.5-1.0 second pause/lag opening apps/drawer
Scheduling Tweaks
I/O Tweaks
Changes since 1.1.23:
Stock 1ghz @ 1225mV
Changes since 1.1.14:
Tweaked minfree settings
tweaked io scheduler
more compiler flags for cortex/hummingbird cpu
tweaked wifi scan interval to help with battery life
Changes since 1.0.36:
removed custom boot animation to trim size.
using kernel jhash3 instead of jhash2.
optimized compiler flags for the hummingbird cpu.
changed some kernel scheduling timings.
BLN disabled by default (configurable with [url=http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823922]this app[/url])
You will see that the custom boot animation was removed. It's okay. If you already have v1.0.36, 1.1.4 or 1.1.23 installed on your phone, the animation will stay. If you're new to my kernels with v1.2.3, your old boot animation will be there.
I'm not seeing any lag on the phone. Gallery opens pretty much instantly. Settings->Applications->Manage opens pretty much instantly. Launcher Pro+ pretty much instantly appears when the phone starts up.
Testers could NOT find any audio problems with this kernel using the media player in JT's Clean ROM. I've tested Youtube and Pandora and have had no audio issues. Also, we couldn't find any issues with USB mount/unmount, settings changes, etc.
As always, if you find a bug or what you think might be a bug, let me know. This is NOT the final stable release of the 1.2 kernel. Stay tuned to #samsung-fascinate on FreeNode or @geeknik on Twitter!
Download:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6088006/stupidfast-test-v1.2.3.zip
saps from #samsung-fascinate said that v1.0.36 was "far and away the fastest real world kernels I've ever seen, period"
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Thanks to saps, jt1134 my beta testers and the kind folks that donated cash to the cause! Keep fighting the good fight!
sweet. dowlloading now.
Downloading also.
I like your kernels, but I just noticed I am getting a super weird output in ADB when I try using that. I also have superdark ROM so it could be either one.
Ok, I just rebooted and checked again and all is running fine with 1.2.2 in recovery, but not in running android system, must mean its the rom.
Downloading now.. went with full full wipe with jts clean, and still getting popping, on asop player, double twist, pandora
Besides the battery life which is supposed to be increased, is there any other benefit to UV ???? Longer processor life, runs cooler, etc.
What are the drawbacks, if any ???? Does performance take a big hit, etc.
I'm asking more in general terms. Obviously I will observe first hand with this kernel, which I'm downloading now.
mexiken said:
Besides the battery life which is supposed to be increased I assume, is there any other benefit to UV ???? Longer processor life, runs cooler, etc.
What are the drawbacks, if any ???? Does performance take a big hit, etc.
I'm asking more in general terms. Obviously I will observe first hand with this kernel, which I'm downloading now.
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In theory, as I know computer not cell phone, UV will allow it to run cooler, which does mean last longer (but is that really a problem?) and use less juice while still being as fast as before. If it runs stable you will not see a performance hit and it will better with the battery. It will just freeze your phone if its too low and requires more juice, really no harm can be done, overvolting is more dangerous as that burns up cpus, but you overvolt to make the higher frequency stable. Simple overclocking principals apply, you want the lowest voltage for your cpu frequency.
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Downloading now.. went with full full wipe with jts clean, and still getting popping, on asop player, double twist, pandora
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are you upping the CPU to 200mhz to run those? I am doing that and its just fine, although I never had a popping problem at 100mhz either. I just set the min to 200 because that cleans up a little bit of the lag too.
Possibly related, every once and a while my phone will just decide to press a soft key on its own, what is that? (that causes a slight skip in the music when I am playing it)
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are you upping the CPU to 200mhz to run those? I am doing that and its just fine, although I never had a popping problem at 100mhz either. I just set the min to 200 because that cleans up a little bit of the lag too.
Possibly related, every once and a while my phone will just decide to press a soft key on its own, what is that? (that causes a slight skip in the music when I am playing it)
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see if listening to it while hooked to power recreates the problem... i noticed for me atleast its only when plugged in...
I have it up to USB and its not skipping or popping right now, I am also using mixzing
v1.2.2 is the least fastest of all the geeknik kernels for me. There is 1 almost 2 second pause loading and exiting apps unless it was already in memory.
Still faster then everyone elses kernel. And so far battery life looks to be way better on this one but I haven't had it long enough to say for sure.
Nothing has changed on my audio popping issues so I am still using SetCPU at 200min still. I am short 6 hours of battery life like this by my best guestimate... which isn't a big concern for me- just reporting for those who need to make it thru a day without a charger nearby.
Never had any FC's with USB.
Touchwiz/JT's Super Clean ROM
And a thank you to geeknik for all your efforts! love how your pumping these out!
Kernal runs great! No unwanted sounds from the stock music player in jt's rom. USB works just fine. Thanks for your hard work!
are you using setcpu? if so that helped me fix it bumping min to 200... any one else having the problem might try that...
Interestingly enough, this kernel does seem a touch slower than the 1.2.23 regular voltage kernel. Hangs just the slightest bit when firing up and exiting dolphin browser and xda app. Still, appears to be MUCH better with battery life, as the previous geeknik kernels were ravaging my battery.
Definite progress but not quite perfect imho. Still thanks for all your work geeknik, you're killing it with these.
Also fyi, running custom blackhole, with sns and lp
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This kernel is running fairly smooth, like the other 2. I can deal with the extra 0.5 second delay when first opening an app, as long as BLN is optional and battery life is extended. Thank you very much for taking the time to come up with these kernels for us. Other kernel providers tend to make their products less accessible for us XDA users, but you take the stress out of the search. Thank you again.
Thank you very much for taking the time to come up with these kernels for us. Other kernel providers tend to make their products less accessible for us XDA users said:
This is because these development forums are filled with junk threads, nobody taking the time to read a Lil bit. Its getting worse and devs leave because of it. Not the devs fault at all. Just a point to make: )
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Can someone explain how to get bln. I saw a post about it but can't find it or I'm over looking it like an idiot
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Can someone explain how to get bln. I saw a post about it but can't find it or I'm over looking it like an idiot
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Re-read the first post of this thread, there's a link to how to enable/disable bln
The uv kernel is a winner of course. I test these kernels for geeknik before he throws them up for the masses. Not just running quadrant [although I do that too] but going thru the real phone stuff itself. The manage applications load, replacing new dock shortcuts, gallery, apps and stuff everything we actually want to see improve with.
I for one never had battery issues with previous stupidfast kernels but I know some did, same this music crackling. It seems to me most of you that do are either running blackhold or deodexed rom though and quite humbly I'd look their for your culprit moreso than the kernel. If there was a music skipping issue from the kernel itself it would manifest itself across the boards but it doesnt.
Anyway, battery life is going to be stellar trust me, under light-moderate use Im only using like 2% per hour here swyping 8-10 texts per hour here, very good indeed
Hey Saps- I see ya on all the forums and your contributions have really helped me out...
That being said I keep seeing an overlook of real world usage in these testings. Can you guys test beyond stock apps? I mean checking stock should be the first thing you do obviously but how many people use the stock music player or the stock browser, etc? I am betting most the people that have the knowledge enough to test these kernels and ROMs aren't using stock functionality and apps.
Please test this kernel with the PowerAMP or Music PlayerPro music apps before writing off the issue.
Use Dolphin to check the internet, etc. Use K-9 to check email, etc.. ya know- use the popular apps during testing also if you could?
Audio cracking, FC's with the USB settings, and I even heard mention of live wallpapers having issues. These reports coming from 3 reported different ROMs.
How are you missing this?
I myself have had great success with battery life on the Stupid Fast kernels. Better then stock kernel for sure. But I've been having to run my battery faster by using my workaround to avoid the music crackling.
JT's Super Clean ROM using TouchWiz
Just suggestions so we can all get on the same page and enjoy these badass mods.
P.S. What ROM are you using during testing of this kernel? I'll gladly switch to fix the issues
OK, so I'm on GSB 3.4 (though this issue began with 3.3), and I'm having a problem with my phone rebooting (screen cuts off after about a second, and the phone immediately reboots to the skateboard screen) at the following times:
1. Whenever I attempt to wake the phone from sleep.
2. Whenever I hang up a phone call.
3. Whenever I get a phone call while the phone is asleep.
4. Whenever I plug the phone in to charge while the phone is asleep (be it a wall socket or PC) [see below].
These problems only occur when the phone is NOT plugged into a charging source; the problem appears to be nonexistent in this scenario. But as soon as I unplug, all 4 become auto-crash scenarios.
I tried going back to GSB 3.2, but no dice. I then resorted to the stock-ish XTRsense ROM, which fixed the issue, but going back to Froyo just was too big a downgrade for me.
Throughout this process, I full-wiped multiple times, hoping to track the issue to an app or setting, but even before restoring anything through TBU (I think I may have just let the phone go to sleep at the "Touch the Android" initial setup screen once), the problem persisted, eliminating apps, settings, or CM7 CPU modifications as possible culprits.
I've continued to play with CM7 CPU settings even up till now, but I'm not getting much of anywhere. I've now resorted to the "Caffeine" app, which just never lets the phone go to sleep, and I just turn the brightness down or activate the "Desk Clock" mode in the default Clock app to save battery.
HELP?
Have you tried Tazz's ROM or CondemnedSoul's ROM, just to see what happens with those? CS's ROM uses ADW as the default launcher (not sure about Tazz's) - perhaps it's something with LauncherPro?
Had this happen once
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My phones use to freeze on the unlock screen, it happened in multiple roms. i switched back to the "ondemand" governor and it hasn't happened since. not sure if it the same issue but it might help.
My last name is also Schultz ....
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Guys, just thought I throw out the idea that it might an overclocking (i.e., hardware) issue?
I see that the Conap's CFS kernel that GSB 3.4 uses is max clocked at 604 MHz, but maybe that's too high for your particular phone?
I also think that schultzmd's comment about the ondemand governor helping might point to the clock stepping to a higher speed when coming out of sleep (and being related to clock speed). Maybe try running the phone at a lower speed just to see if its better behaved might prove instructive.
Just a thought...
Cheers!
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Guys, just thought I throw out the idea that it might an overclocking (i.e., hardware) issue?
I see that the Conap's CFS kernel that GSB 3.4 uses is max clocked at 604 MHz, but maybe that's too high for your particular phone?
I also think that schultzmd's comment about the ondemand governor helping might point to the clock stepping to a higher speed when coming out of sleep (and being related to clock speed). Maybe try running the phone at a lower speed just to see if its better behaved might prove instructive.
Just a thought...
Cheers!
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Sounds familiar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14016867&postcount=5186
I'll try the changing the max, but I know I've tried as low as 604 max (19 min) with the problem persisting, and as high as 710 or 768 before GSB 3.3 (when the problem started) with no major issues. And I had already been using Ondemand when the problem started, having stopped using Smartass when I thought it slowing the performance down a bit. Any other governors I should try?
And does the overclocking issue not apply when a phone is charging?
doogald said:
Sounds familiar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14016867&postcount=5186
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lol, doogald...I had no idea .
I should know better than to come in to any thread you've already weighed-in on and know that you've already exhausted all the possibilities.
I'll leave the Op to your very capable hands.
Cheers and thanks for keeping an eye out here on XDA and over at AF too (and probably six or seven other sites ).
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And does the overclocking issue not apply when a phone is charging?
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Well, you are introducing some extra heat into the equation while charging, which might be enough to tip the balance against you if it is indeed an overclock issue.
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lol, doogald...I had no idea .
I should know better than to come in to any thread you've already weighed-in on and know that you've already exhausted all the possibilities.
I'll leave the Op to your very capable hands.
Cheers and thanks for keeping an eye out here on XDA and over at AF too (and probably six or seven other sites ).
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You would have only seen that if you had seen the post in the GSB thread, of course.
I am still going to suggest trying Tazz or Condemned. From what the OP says, he should be able to see that it's having the same issue pretty quickly.
But, just to rule out the OC issue, you could try setting the max to stock 528 and see if it still happens.
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You would have only seen that if you had seen the post in the GSB thread, of course.
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lol...that post was on the 519th page of (currently) 530 pages! (I read the first page, does that count? )
Still crashing on 528 max / 19 min...
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Still crashing on 528 max / 19 min...
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How about on Tazz or Condemned? And, 19.2 is too slow for a minimum for this kernel. 245 should be the minimum.
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Well, you are introducing some extra heat into the equation while charging, which might be enough to tip the balance against you if it is indeed an overclock issue.
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I was inquiring as to why the issue DOESN'T happen when I'm charging. I'm not sure if that's what you were saying, but I have no issues while the phone is charging; it's weird, because CM7's CPU governor doesn't allow profiles for "screen-off", "charging", or anything like that. It just seems to make my problem more random and untraceable. It literally is happening on EVERY CPU setting, even 480 max (which to me, is just pointless to actually use)
I've full-wiped so many times in the last few days, I'm wary to just try a different Gingerbread ROM when GSB is (was, for me) so stable and full-featured. I'm trying my darnedest to just stick it out and charge-charge-charge to avoid the issue.
One more thing: if, right after the phone reboots itself, I unlock it before the screen goes off and manually put it to sleep and quickly wake it back up, the issue usually doesn't occur (and I can keep doing this, putting it to sleep and waking it back up again, with no issue). But if I unlock it and let it sit and reach the screen timeout itself (or never unlock it after it reboots, then let it sit for a while), the problem reoccurs.
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I've full-wiped so many times in the last few days, I'm wary to just try a different Gingerbread ROM when GSB is (was, for me) so stable and full-featured. I'm trying my darnedest to just stick it out and charge-charge-charge to avoid the issue.
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I have used both GSB and Condemned and you will not be missing anything. I stopped using GSB because I could not get market updates to stick reliably. I do not have that issue at all with Condemned.
Right now the only issue with the latest Condemned is apparently a GPS issue, so I would go with V6 or V7 rather than V8 for now until CondemnedSoul gets an update. Or, if you don't navigate, go ahead with V8. It's just fine.
You're obviously having a stability issue with GSB now, so you have nothing to lose but about 45 minutes of time and a Nandroid Restore to go back to GSB if you don't like it.
So, I had a minor issue that was fixed by switching to a different ROM. It's worth a try.
I wish you luck finding a solution.
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I was inquiring as to why the issue DOESN'T happen when I'm charging. I'm not sure if that's what you were saying, but I have no issues while the phone is charging; it's weird, because CM7's CPU governor doesn't allow profiles for "screen-off", "charging", or anything like that. It just seems to make my problem more random and untraceable. It literally is happening on EVERY CPU setting, even 480 max (which to me, is just pointless to actually use)
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Nate,
Sorry about that ...I was confused from where you asked in post #8 about whether or not overclocking was in effect while charging (it can/could be, depending on the overclocking monitor/govenor I suppose) and I had lost that point from your original post.
I would say take doogald's advice and switch to at least some other ROM since that would help indicate if it is indeed a software issue or a hardware issue. Its sounding like its not clock-speed related given the things you've already tried. If you've still got issues on other ROMs, that would tend to point to some hardware issue (our Erii are getting a little long in the tooth at this point, after all).
You could even flash back to stock and see if the phone is still stable there since you can always re-root and re-restore your Nandroid backups.
Good luck...I hope you figure something out.
Problem is alive and well on Condemned GB. *sigh*
XTRsense was fine and flawless, but going back to Froyo after months on gingerbread was just too depressing for me...
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I'm going to make one more suggestion - not sure if you have tried this yet, but try flashing GSB from a full wipe. When you go through the setup, DO NOT LOG IN TO YOUR GOOGLE ACCOUNT. After the launcher starts, go into the market, let it log you in to your Google account then, and then install all of your apps and change all of your settings from scratch.
When you log in with your Google account when installing a CM ROM, it tries to restore your apps and settings from your last CM ROM install. It may be that you have some weird setting or app that is causing this that you just keep reinstalling when you flash the ROM and log in with your account.
If you've already tried this, then try running xtrSENSE or xtrROM instead. They are both excellent ROMs and clearly your phone likes them better.
[edit] Oh, and try leaving your min at 245 MHz for a while. See if that helps your phone run better. It should, and it should have the exact same battery life as 19.2, as nonsensical as that sounds.
It is literally happening as soon as I boot the phone after a fresh GB install. I four-corner the Android setup screen, let the screen time out, and boom I'm screwed.
So, I have one of the first Vibrants to hit the store. I'm running Neobuddy ICS Passion V8. Before the *****ing begins I want to say that I love this rom.
I followed the install instructions to a "T".
I used antutu cpu master to overclock to 1.3 because I read that other people were doing it and didn't see any complaints. When my phone booted to the point where the message that cpu master had superuser privileges came up, it froze and the display changed colors getting lighter and washed out looking. That scared the crap out of me and I thought I had just cooked my cpu. I pulled the battery and rebooted then tried to open the app and change the settings before it froze and failed, rebooting 6 times, battery pull each time. I finally relented and did a factory reset. Previous to this adventure I had it clocked at 1Ghz max and 100 min and was experiencing no lag. I just got greedy. I only changed it at all because I was getting 16 hours of battery life and thought I could trade some battery for speed. I have it running at 1.2 now and it's fine. So this is not so much a question but an answer to anyone who might be asking themselves if they should overclock to 1.3.
Bugs
mute/unmute necessary for incoming call audio
automatic brightness not responsive
complaints
contacts app doesn't match the rest of the theme
no text button next to phone button on contact
no long press functionality on contact
When it comes to Vibrants, all our phones are different. Some users will be able to run at 1.3 from now until our Zombie overlords take over and we're forced into indentured servitude. Others, like you and I will be lucky to run a mild OC without freezes.
I used to oc to 1.6 ghz on cm7
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What he said!
younix258 said:
I used to oc to 1.6 ghz on cm7
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My first Vibrant T959, manufactured prior to Oct 2010, used to fly, and overclock like there wasn't any tomorrow, and would flash anything! Was the most cooperative phone I ever had! Wish my wife was like that. LOL
Then I unfortunately got into a true HardBrick with it, and stupidly, instead of JTAGing it, got T-Mobile to exchange it, for a same model, but with a manufacturing date on it of 8-2011!
And this replacement phone, hasn't even ever performed as well as the old one, despite how I set it up, And at first it was stuburn as hell to get it to cooperate with flashing, until I unlocked it, and it calmed down alot, even though that makes no sense at all, but nun the less, it is what it is!
Point is, that each week, month or quarter, the phones aren't consistent in manufacturing qualities or how they run and perform, or the components they use. I had a Thoroughbred in the beginning, and now I how a plow horse, yes she still works well, but needs alot of coaxing, I had to re-do the GPS contacts right so there was firm pressure, and the SW flashes were a ***** in the beginning!
But I believe when this phone first came out, there was better quality of manufacturing and they used the same consistent components, until they shifted their focus on other models to push onto the market!
So again, what Billy Bobs got going with his, Isn't what it ll be with yours!!
I'm running JT's vanilla GB [over Heimdall'ed stock EH03] on my fascinate.
I use my fascinate as my alarm clock, and I woke up this morning to a extremely choppy ringtone. < and that is is the understatement of the day.
Anyway, I try to press "dismiss" to dismiss my alarm, and it feels like the screen is not responding. I press the power button, and it takes probably like 5 seconds to complete the CRT animation. After that, I can see the screen is still on (hard to tell unless in the dark with the AMOLED), and it won't do a thing after that until I 3-button-combo or take out the battery.
As a side note, it was also doing this on my previous rom, SuperClean3 v8.1. One of the main reasons I switched back to JT's vanilla gb.
The first night the alarm worked fine. [2 days ago] Yesterday, I was watching some video files, I pressed the power button, I left for a few minutes, I came back and it was frozen. [Took foreverrrrrr for the CRT turn-on animation, and screen did not respond].
This is really really annoying, and I would really like to find out what is wrong with my phone.
One more thing I should mention.. this same kind of thing happened once in a while on the stock froyo firmware, when I bought it on craigslist. I would come to it sometimes and turn it on, and the lockscreen would show and the touchscreen wouldn't respond. I had to take the batt. out then cuz I didn't know about 3-button-combo.
The USB would only charge and not transfer files and only would charge.
So I sent it in cuz samsung said I had 1 mo. warranty left, and then they said they fixed everything in the ticked, and I got it back and it seemed to work. [the usb file transfer worked..]
So can anybody give me any advice? Like logcat? Would that tell me what is causing this problem?
Any help is appreciated!
Are your CPU settings stock? I've noticed the "sleep of death", which sounds similar to your issue, when I was undervolted too much at 100mhz.
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Are your CPU settings stock? I've noticed the "sleep of death", which sounds similar to your issue, when I was undervolted too much at 100mhz.
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Thanks for the reply. I will look into this 'sleep of death' thing.
And I haven't edited my cpu settings. I went to superuser to be sure and the only apps listed are Superuser, Terminal Emulator, and Titanium Backup.
So I just went on a 1-hour trip, and when I got to where I was going, this happened to me again. The screen-on animation was slower than a slug on salt. 3-button-combo reset, I let it reboot, and it was fine.
I just got home 1/2 hr ago and it did it again.
Sigh.. well I only have like 2 apps that always run, 3G Watchdog and Equalizer. I've uninstalled 3G WD just to see if it does anything.
Edit: I will install ROM Manager and set the absolute minimum freq to 200mhz, and see what happens. That would make sense if it's messing up at 100mhz when the screen goes off, and then it's not able to think fast enough to up it back to 1ghz.
It sounds like it might be an issue with your phone if the problem follows you between roms and your kernel settings are stock. That is unless this is a more common issue with those roms, but I don't think they are. The sleep of death issue that I've run into before is simply the phone refusing to wake up, requiring a 3-button reset/battery pull, so I'm not sure about the slowness to respond before freezing that you've run in to.
I'd try setting the minimum frequency to 200mhz with an app like voltage control (rom manager is for rom flashing, backups/restore), maybe that would help the phone's responsiveness regarding waking up properly. I'm not sure though since when I had the sleep of death issue mentioned before, I just lessened the undervolting I had done and it seemed to resolve it. I don't have much expertise to share on your specific issue though, I'm sorry. I'd almost be inclined to believe that it might be a more phone-specific problem if you're running stock kernel settings on roms where other users haven't reported the same issue, but trying the 200mhz thing can't hurt.
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It sounds like it might be an issue with your phone if the problem follows you between roms and your kernel settings are stock. That is unless this is a more common issue with those roms, but I don't think they are. The sleep of death issue that I've run into before is simply the phone refusing to wake up, requiring a 3-button reset/battery pull, so I'm not sure about the slowness to respond before freezing that you've run in to.
I'd try setting the minimum frequency to 200mhz with an app like voltage control (rom manager is for rom flashing, backups/restore), maybe that would help the phone's responsiveness regarding waking up properly. I'm not sure though since when I had the sleep of death issue mentioned before, I just lessened the undervolting I had done and it seemed to resolve it. I don't have expertise to share on your specific issue though, I'm sorry. I'd almost be inclined to believe that it might be a more phone-specific problem if you're running stock kernel settings on roms where other users haven't reported the same issue, but trying the 200mhz thing can't hurt.
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My bad, I meant ROM Toolbox. It has lots of apps built in including a CPU slider. Anyhow disabling 100mhz did not fix anything. So tonight I will set the minimum frequency to 800 or even 1000 mhz because I want to see if that stops the freezing up. If it does, then I'll know it's a clock speed issue.
I should also mention I sent it in for USB repair. It wouldn't connect to PC, it'd only charge. I also mentioned to Samsung it would lock up every so often from waking up. They upgraded froyo to gingerbread and said it passed all tests, sent it back, I never stayed on the firmware they gave me long enough to see if it froze up.
So on the stock roms, do they underclock the cpu frequency by default??
I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default. I'd try flashing the stock firmware (EH03), and seeing if the issue happens there as well. Although I thought you mentioned it happened to you on superclean before, and I think that's just a modified stock rom? But it would be worth trying I suppose, then you could be sure it's a hardware issue and see about possibly getting a replacement. I'm assuming that you're still under warranty if you've sent the phone back recently enough for them to put gingerbread on it?
Other than that, I can't really think of anything else.. Maybe try jumping on IRC sometime and hitting up some of the people (that are generally more knowledgeable than myself) on there, they'd probably be able to give you a good idea of whether or not it's an issue with your specific phone. Although that's what it sounds like to me, I'm no expert.
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I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default. I'd try flashing the stock firmware (EH03), and seeing if the issue happens there as well. Although I thought you mentioned it happened to you on superclean before, and I think that's just a modified stock rom? But it would be worth trying I suppose, then you could be sure it's a hardware issue and see about possibly getting a replacement. I'm assuming that you're still under warranty if you've sent the phone back recently enough for them to put gingerbread on it?
Other than that, I can't really think of anything else.. Maybe try jumping on IRC sometime and hitting up some of the people (that are generally more knowledgeable than myself) on there, they'd probably be able to give you a good idea of whether or not it's an issue with your specific phone. Although that's what it sounds like to me, I'm no expert.
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Lol, when I sent it in there was like half a month or so left on the warranty, the person said it expires at the end of this month [Dec] so I figure maybe a day or two.
What's the IRC channel info? freenode?
EDIT: I forgot to ask something. So you are saying, the stock firmware [EH03 or froyo EH09] runs the cpu clock constantly at 1GHz? Even when it's sleeping? Wouldn't that give bad battery life? [lol, speaking of batteries, I just got a new one and it's charging]
I had this happen to me 6 months ago. You my friend need a replacement phone. It has nothing to do with the rom/kernal. I tried everything. Sometimes phones just take a crap. Got a replacement. Ran the same thing I ran when it was happening and haven't had a problem since. Sorry to hear. Just explain it it Verizon and see what they do.
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I had this happen to me 6 months ago. You my friend need a replacement phone. It has nothing to do with the rom/kernal. I tried everything. Sometimes phones just take a crap. Got a replacement. Ran the same thing I ran when it was happening and haven't had a problem since. Sorry to hear. Just explain it it Verizon and see what they do.
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This is bad news indeed, since I am not even sure how many days I have on the warranty. But I think I will Odin EH03, and then set the alarm tonight. If I wake up and it's done it again, I will call up samsung and tell them and hopefully I have warranty.
But please, tell me, when you tried to turn on the phone did the CRT animation go very slowly? and then when you pressed power, it wouldn't come on again?
Edit 2: alright! I call samsung and I have warranty until Jan 9. Woot.. So I set up an RMA with samsung, I will Odin EH03 tonight. If I wake up to a choppy alarm and a non-responsive screen, I shall send it to samsung ASAP and I hope they gimme a brand new Fascinate. that would be awesome..
Nice, glad to hear you got the warranty thing figured out. I was thinking it sounded like an issue with your phone in specific and it sounds like the other poster's experience would suggest that. Hopefully it's an issue that they can replicate and don't give you any issues getting a replacement.
To answer your question, no, the stock kernel settings wouldn't keep the processor at the highest frequency. The only way I can see that happening is if you set the screen-off profile to "performance", and I'm not sure why anyone would do that because it would indeed yield bad battery life I'd think. I'm guessing the stock kernel defaults to an "ondemand"-like profile, where it would scale the frequency according to load and favor lower frequencies or go in to a deep sleep when the screen is off.
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Nice, glad to hear you got the warranty thing figured out. I was thinking it sounded like an issue with your phone in specific and it sounds like the other poster's experience would suggest that. Hopefully it's an issue that they can replicate and don't give you any issues getting a replacement.
To answer your question, no, the stock kernel settings wouldn't keep the processor at the highest frequency. The only way I can see that happening is if you set the screen-off profile to "performance", and I'm not sure why anyone would do that because it would indeed yield bad battery life I'd think. I'm guessing the stock kernel defaults to an "ondemand"-like profile, where it would scale the frequency according to load and favor lower frequencies or go in to a deep sleep when the screen is off.
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Oh. well the reason I asked is because you said this: I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default.
So this morning, I woke up to my iPod's alarm, which I had set as a backup a few minutes after my Phone alarm should have gone off. I went to see if the phone was frozen, like I was hoping, so that it would reliably broken , but instead it was off. I turn it on, it shows the full green battery.. then it boots up like nothing was wrong. But I think that turning off randomly every night [which I assume it should do every time] is enough for Samsung to realize my phone really is screwed and that they need to do something about that.
So anyway, I printed out the label, packed my phone, and dropped my phone off at the local UPS drop off.
Hopefully I will be receiving some good news from samsung soon [i.e. that they will give me a replacement... ]
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Oh. well the reason I asked is because you said this: I don't believe that the cpu is underclocked or undervolted by default.
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Yeah, looking back on that, I misspoke. Technically, UNDERvolting/clocking is just reducing the voltage or clock speed from the "default" kernel settings. So technically, since the stock settings are the "default", they (by definition) would not be "undervolted" or "underclocked". I guess all I was trying to say is that I'm sure whatever the default settings are, they're set for a balance of performance, battery life, and stability. Just because the default max frequency is 1000mhz, doesn't mean that the CPU will stay there, that's what kernel governors are for essentially: to tell the CPU how to scale based on load (as I understand it at least).
Hopefully things go well with the replacement. Just curious, why are you dealing with Samsung directly as opposed to Verizon?
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Yeah, looking back on that, I misspoke. Technically, UNDERvolting/clocking is just reducing the voltage or clock speed from the "default" kernel settings. So technically, since the stock settings are the "default", they (by definition) would not be "undervolted" or "underclocked". I guess all I was trying to say is that I'm sure whatever the default settings are, they're set for a balance of performance, battery life, and stability. Just because the default max frequency is 1000mhz, doesn't mean that the CPU will stay there, that's what kernel governors are for essentially: to tell the CPU how to scale based on load (as I understand it at least).
Hopefully things go well with the replacement. Just curious, why are you dealing with Samsung directly as opposed to Verizon?
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1. I'm not the original owner
2. I'm not a Verizon subscriber. PagePlus Celluar [A verizon MVNO] is my service provider. They have much better plans, including monthly, and prepaid, if you ask me.
Kernel issue.
sent from my Sensation XD
Yess..
Good news! Got an email saying my phone has been shipped:
Code:
Original Problem:
TECHNICAL INQUIRY - PHONE FREEZING / LOCKED UP - FREEZE/DELAY BETWEEN MENU FUNCTIONS
Problem found:
BAD BGA COMPONENT
Solution:
REPLACED PBA
I guess the PBA is basically the motherboard? I suppose that could have been the cause of overnight freezing, and so my phone should be fixed.
Nice.. Just 2 days left on my warranty. Cutting it kinda close, I know lol
Very well done sir
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(summarized below in tl;dr version)
Since my problem I need help with showed up after going back to stock + root, I thought I'd ask in general before filling up the ROM discussion in development about the problem that I found after updating to ICS (leaked).
Had an odd problem crop up on me with scrosler's CleanROM 2.2 SP1 running (will 'splain in a sec, and tl;dr sum-up at the end), so I relocked, flashed back to pre-OTA official firmware and then let the OTA run. All was good, and I was happy. I unlocked again, installed Amon Ra, reinstalled SU, and started putting in my happy-fun root required tools (Oh Titanium, I likes you so). Then, my problem reappeared.
So my problem is occasionally the touchscreen would act "wacky" at times. Specifically, while in my browser, sometimes when I tried to scroll while browsing, the display would act like I was using pinch-zoom. It acted like I was touching the top left corner of the display in portrait mode, and zoom-in/-out according to how I was moving my touch that I intended to scroll. Then I noticed that games which required multi-touch had significant problems reading constant touch on most of the top-half of the display (left half in landscape mode with the carrier name on the left). I like Age of Zombies, and while the game would start off running right, within 20-60 seconds, the movement virtual controller would rapidly turn on and off, leaving me able to fire but not move. Grand Theft Auto was unplayable, as every time I touched a direction key in driving mode, the system would lose track of my holding the gas.
Troubleshooting took a while, as I had installed a lot of apps, and made a few changes at once after everything appeared to run properly. Ultimately, the problem appears to be caused by underclocking, and I can't figure out how to kill that and lock myself at stock speed. Haven't tried an overclocking capable kernel to see if they run any better, and haven't tried checking voltages to see if bumping them on underclocks would fix it.
I have used Antutu CPU master, an old version of SetCPU, and System Tuner Pro (from 3c). I can set the min and max CPU to 1.52, and it seems to stay for a while, but eventually, the setting reverts to allowing underclocking and my touchscreen gets goofy.
tl;dr: My system, even after restoring to RUU/OTA, wants to underclock. When the CPU runs under stock speed, my touch-screen misbehaves, particularly in gaming, but also in browsing. Any help?
Thanks
Can almost definitely confirm it's just bad hardware at this point.
After running 2 days without problem other than the touch-screen issue noted above, the phone entered an persistent bootloop after I loaded Juice Defender today. Phone would reboot, come up to home screen, get a data connection, tell me how many new email and texts I had, then tell me an app (same every reboot) was not responding and reboot 2-3 seconds after I cleared the error. Even when I managed to get to market before a reboot and uninstall the last 2 apps I'd installed, the phone is still in a boot loop.
Appreciate all that took the time to read, and wanted to share that there's a pretty good reason no one could respond with a solution.
Well, it probably is bad hardware but two cardinal rules I have when working on any Rezound is NEVER restore with Titanium BU & don't use Juice Defender (and I have a paid version of it).
I have had both mess up certain phones & I do this stuff all day at work.
I only noticed the underclocking issue with the ICS roms. But, I believe it is due to the Kernels not supporting under/overclocking and scaling options yet.
AtLemacks said:
I only noticed the underclocking issue with the ICS roms. But, I believe it is due to the Kernels not supporting under/overclocking and scaling options yet.
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I've had the same issue for a while now and nobody answered Me either. After a little research it seems we have bad digitizers. I say this because that was happening to me on gingerbread and I upgraded to ice in part to fix it.
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aostl said:
I've had the same issue for a while now and nobody answered Me either. After a little research it seems we have bad digitizers. I say this because that was happening to me on gingerbread and I upgraded to ice in part to fix it.
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Okay so I have a similar problem.
I have hephappy cm9 prefinal installed just started having problems with rom. screen was acting funny so I turned on the touch point developer tool supplied with the rom. I have found that I have multiple touch points when scrolling with one finger.
So I used a apk called touch recalibrate that I got when I was on mik's cm7.
Which I have recalibrated aprox 7 times with no improvements so I set my cpu to min 600 max 600 smartassv2 this did not help either. If anyone has the answer to this problem please let me know.