dual car charger help - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

can someone point me to some car chargers, that have dual input(able to charge 2 items at the same time),but i need that full 1amp power so i can keep my note charging WHILE using it
thanks in advance
OEM chargers preferred

SayWhat10 said:
can someone point me to some car chargers, that have dual input(able to charge 2 items at the same time),but i need that full 1amp power so i can keep my note charging WHILE using it
thanks in advance
OEM chargers preferred
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I haven't come across a dual USB charger that will put 1A into an Android phone out of the box. If you don't mind buying a USB cable that has the data pins shorted (so the phone recognizes it as a dedicated charger), then the Griffin Powerjolt dual USB car charger (1A each port) is nice.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16940656?adid=22222222227000891117&wmlspartner=wlpa&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=13695927550&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem
The Note will only charge at about 1/2A until you use cables with the data pins shorted together (I shorted the data pins inside the charger).
It looks nice (almost like in came with the car since it sits about flush with your dash). I can confirm it can put 1A into the Note (using Current Widget).

mtucker said:
I haven't come across a dual USB charger that will put 1A into an Android phone out of the box. If you don't mind buying a USB cable that has the data pins shorted (so the phone recognizes it as a dedicated charger), then the Griffin Powerjolt dual USB car charger (1A each port) is nice.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16940656?adid=22222222227000891117&wmlspartner=wlpa&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=13695927550&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem
The Note will only charge at about 1/2A until you use cables with the data pins shorted together (I shorted the data pins inside the charger).
It looks nice (almost like in came with the car since it sits about flush with your dash). I can confirm it can put 1A into the Note (using Current Widget).
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So it's not the car adapter that's not putting out 1A, it's the USB cable? If I were to use any car adapter + charging USB cable, my GNote would charge at full rate?
Also: how do I know if my USB cable is strictly charging or charging + data?

tizzy said:
So it's not the car adapter that's not putting out 1A, it's the USB cable? If I were to use any car adapter + charging USB cable, my GNote would charge at full rate?
Also: how do I know if my USB cable is strictly charging or charging + data?
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The charger has to be capable of putting out 1A or more for our Notes. If the voltage regulator inside the charger can't put out >=1A, then having the data pins shorted won't do any good. But if it can put out 1A+ and you don't have the data pins shorted, then the Note won't draw the full 1A. A lot of car chargers capable of 1A+ don't have the data pins shorted. I have read some people have luck with a OEM Motorola (1A out of the box) and I believe there is at least one Rocketfish charger (sold at Bestbuy) that gives 1A out of the box (although it only has one USB output). The problem is most chargers are meant to be compatible with iDevices and don't try to comply with the USB spec.
Most likely the data pins aren't shorted on any cable you have. Even if you have a charge only cable, it is probably just missing the data wires (not shorted). A few guys at work were buying cables off Ebay that were purposely made to have the data pins shorted. There are a few threads here on XDA (in the Note sections) that discuss various chargers and the need to short the data pins together.
Here is a discussion about a dual USB charger and charging Notes in general. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720992

To the OP:
I just bought this off ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170834845305&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:CA:3160
It's a dual port, 2.1A and 1A output, I guess the device draws current as needed?
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mtucker said:
The charger has to be capable of putting out 1A or more for our Notes. If the voltage regulator inside the charger can't put out >=1A, then having the data pins shorted won't do any good. But if it can put out 1A+ and you don't have the data pins shorted, then the Note won't draw the full 1A. A lot of car chargers capable of 1A+ don't have the data pins shorted. I have read some people have luck with a OEM Motorola (1A out of the box) and I believe there is at least one Rocketfish charger (sold at Bestbuy) that gives 1A out of the box (although it only has one USB output). The problem is most chargers are meant to be compatible with iDevices and don't try to comply with the USB spec.
Most likely the data pins aren't shorted on any cable you have. Even if you have a charge only cable, it is probably just missing the data wires (not shorted). A few guys at work were buying cables off Ebay that were purposely made to have the data pins shorted. There are a few threads here on XDA (in the Note sections) that discuss various chargers and the need to short the data pins together.
Here is a discussion about a dual USB charger and charging Notes in general. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720992
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I bought a bluetooth FM transmitter, and it came with charging cables. I know they are charging cables because it doesn't work as data transfer. Do you think the pins are shorted, or the wires are absent? Any way I can check?

mtucker said:
I haven't come across a dual USB charger that will put 1A into an Android phone out of the box. If you don't mind buying a USB cable that has the data pins shorted (so the phone recognizes it as a dedicated charger), then the Griffin Powerjolt dual USB car charger (1A each port) is nice.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16940656?adid=22222222227000891117&wmlspartner=wlpa&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=13695927550&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem
The Note will only charge at about 1/2A until you use cables with the data pins shorted together (I shorted the data pins inside the charger).
It looks nice (almost like in came with the car since it sits about flush with your dash). I can confirm it can put 1A into the Note (using Current Widget).
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thanks for the info,im going to buy but found it a lil cheaper on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Power...UTF8&qid=1342386999&sr=8-1&keywords=powerjolt
but can you point me to where to find data cables (power cables) that are already shorted though?

tizzy said:
To the OP:
I just bought this off ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170834845305&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:CA:3160
It's a dual port, 2.1A and 1A output, I guess the device draws current as needed?
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I bought a bluetooth FM transmitter, and it came with charging cables. I know they are charging cables because it doesn't work as data transfer. Do you think the pins are shorted, or the wires are absent? Any way I can check?
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i used the voltage widget(as he mentioned) to check and see if it puts out 1am
just download/install the widget,plug into phone, and see what the widget says
if its 5,000 or less, then its running at only .5 amp
i see at least 9,000 (though it should be 10,000 or so) when 1amp is running

If you don't want to cut into a cable and solder, you can use:
http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Adapter...UTF8&colid=7NRVJS6JI4DY&coliid=I3TYTQBSNKZ4GK
With shipping, its kind of expensive. I ordered a few (shipping costs the same as for 1) and put one in the car because, without it, the cable I was using only charged at 500 ma.

Jim Dead said:
If you don't want to cut into a cable and solder, you can use:
http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Adapter...UTF8&colid=7NRVJS6JI4DY&coliid=I3TYTQBSNKZ4GK
With shipping, its kind of expensive. I ordered a few (shipping costs the same as for 1) and put one in the car because, without it, the cable I was using only charged at 500 ma.
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thanks but i already tried that
it worked great for about a month (full 1amp) but now its conked out on me
so i was trying to go the shorted charger route this time, instead of an adapter
is there an instruction book somewhere that shows how to short cable?

I cant post a link...AT&T stores sell these, At&T website has info on them as well.
They are 30.00
Scosche reVOLT c2 Low Profile Car Charger- Dual 2.1A USB
Low-Profile Dual USB Car Charger. Dual 10 Watt (2.1A) USB ports can charge two iPads at once. Ultra low-profile design fits flush in most power sockets. This dual USB port car charger packs colossal power into a modest frame.
Car charger allows you to charge 2 devices at once - even 2 iPads simultaneously.
Each USB port has been designed to supply 10 Watts (2.1A) of power.
Dual 10 Watt (2.1A) USB ports can charge two iPads at once
Use your existing USB cables to charge your favorite devices
Ultra low-profile car adapter fits flush in most power sockets

RocketManOO7 said:
I cant post a link...AT&T stores sell these, At&T website has info on them as well.
They are 30.00
Scosche reVOLT c2 Low Profile Car Charger- Dual 2.1A USB
Low-Profile Dual USB Car Charger. Dual 10 Watt (2.1A) USB ports can charge two iPads at once. Ultra low-profile design fits flush in most power sockets. This dual USB port car charger packs colossal power into a modest frame.
Car charger allows you to charge 2 devices at once - even 2 iPads simultaneously.
Each USB port has been designed to supply 10 Watts (2.1A) of power.
Dual 10 Watt (2.1A) USB ports can charge two iPads at once
Use your existing USB cables to charge your favorite devices
Ultra low-profile car adapter fits flush in most power sockets
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yeh but this requires you to use your own USB cables
the USB cables that are shorted is what i dont have
thats what im looking for.........

Best buy sells a rocket fish micro usb premium car charger that works great and it has a extra usb port up top. It's what I use.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium

SayWhat10 said:
yeh but this requires you to use your own USB cables
the USB cables that are shorted is what i dont have
thats what im looking for.........
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I've bought several of different lengths on eBay. That's what I use.

RocketManOO7 said:
I've bought several of different lengths on eBay. That's what I use.
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shorted
not short cables

pussyliquor said:
Best buy sells a rocket fish micro usb premium car charger that works great and it has a extra usb port up top. It's what I use.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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is it 1amp tho?

Related

[Q] USB to Micro USB Cable Proprietary to SGP?

Is the USB to Micro USB cable used by the SGP 4 or 5 a proprietary cable to this specific device? I have read several posts here and on other forums that some cables don't work or some chargers with micro USB connections don't charge the SGP. Is there something special in the wiring of the cable that comes with the SGP. I would like a spare cable and a car charger, but want to be sure I am getting one that will work.
Thanks.
Been wondering this myself, I read a write up on another forum with a lot of different specs amongst different micro usb samsung chargers it made my head spin.....I read that they(Phone manufactures) will be making a micro-usb standard next year amongst phone manufactures that should eliminate this issue....I have a LG micro usb charger that does nothing for my galaxy player.
I've been using a short USB to microUSB cable from Sandisk intended for their Clip Zip players. No problems charging or transferring data to the SGP 5.0.
TonyBigs said:
I've been using a short USB to microUSB cable from Sandisk intended for their Clip Zip players. No problems charging or transferring data to the SGP 5.0.
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could you post a picture of this? like plug in the clip zip through the usb to the sgp 5
The AC and car chargers for my Verizon LG Revere phone will both charge the SGP 4. The connector is a commonly-used mini USB standard, shaped like the letter 'D' when viewed from the end.
Has anyone actually gone out and bought a cable or charger for the SGP5 that works? It is nice that this or that phone or device's cable and charger work -but if you don't own that phone or device to get the cable or charger from, it does not help. And Samsung does not seem to offer OEM cables or chargers on their site.
SGP needs micro-usb with data shorted to gnd to charge
Just like my Toshiba TG01, the SGP needs a micro-usb connection with the data pin shorted to ground in order to charge correctly. In the Samsung charger that comes with the US version, the charging cable is a straight micro-usb data connector, which means the charger must have the data pin shorted. This way, the cable itself can be plugged into the PC for data transfer. Personally, I have hacked up an adapter (female USB to male USB) which has the two pins shorted, so I can plug the adapter in-line with the data cable into any USB port that supplies a regulated 5V, and the SGP will charge. Otherwise, you need to make sure the charger has the proper implementation of the shorted data pins.
Aurally said:
Just like my Toshiba TG01, the SGP needs a micro-usb connection with the data pin shorted to ground in order to charge correctly. In the Samsung charger that comes with the US version, the charging cable is a straight micro-usb data connector, which means the charger must have the data pin shorted. This way, the cable itself can be plugged into the PC for data transfer. Personally, I have hacked up an adapter (female USB to male USB) which has the two pins shorted, so I can plug the adapter in-line with the data cable into any USB port that supplies a regulated 5V, and the SGP will charge. Otherwise, you need to make sure the charger has the proper implementation of the shorted data pins.
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I understand what you are saying but not sure how to implement it to make an adapter such as you have. Do you short the D+ and D- wires in the adapter cable to the ground wire - touch (connect) all three together?
I have been using the charging cable for my LG cosmos 2 and it works fine. I have, however, only used it for charging, not data.
Aurally said:
Just like my Toshiba TG01, the SGP needs a micro-usb connection with the data pin shorted to ground in order to charge correctly. In the Samsung charger that comes with the US version, the charging cable is a straight micro-usb data connector, which means the charger must have the data pin shorted. This way, the cable itself can be plugged into the PC for data transfer. Personally, I have hacked up an adapter (female USB to male USB) which has the two pins shorted, so I can plug the adapter in-line with the data cable into any USB port that supplies a regulated 5V, and the SGP will charge. Otherwise, you need to make sure the charger has the proper implementation of the shorted data pins.
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Wouldn't all USB port chargers - by that I mean a car charger with a usb port in it or a wall charger with a usb port in it, have the data pins disconnected or shorted out as they are made for charging only and of course, no data transfer?
My Optimus-V cable does not work for charging or USB.
My car charger for my Optimus does not charge my SGP5.
My Logitech Mouse cable does charge my SGP5, but USB to PC does not work.
I have a car charger ordered not received yet, 50-50 shot at working.
A "standard" would be nice!
That's odd... Nearly all Samsung devices (except for Tabs) follow the USB charging standard, which is that D+ and D- need to be shorted together by the charger to indicate a dumb charger.
iPad/iPhone chargers don't do this - iDevices do NOT follow the standard.

Car (12v USB) charger

Has anyone successfully used a 12v usb charger other than the BN ripoff? I have a gmax 2.1a and aluratek 2a and neither one will charge the bn tablet. I get the "not charging" message on the tablet.. so I supposed its getting some juice, but not enough to sustain it. I soldered d+/d- together on both adapters and now both will show ac charging in the nexus - so I know each is getting close to 1amp. Ironically, the tablet will show ac charging if I use the nexus power ac power cube which is rated at 5v / 1amp output. So you would think the 12v usb adapters which are rated the same would work as well.
thoughts?
darby427 said:
Has anyone successfully used a 12v usb charger other than the BN ripoff? I have a gmax 2.1a and aluratek 2a and neither one will charge the bn tablet. I get the "not charging" message on the tablet.. so I supposed its getting some juice, but not enough to sustain it. I soldered d+/d- together on both adapters and now both will show ac charging in the nexus - so I know each is getting close to 1amp. Ironically, the tablet will show ac charging if I use the nexus power ac power cube which is rated at 5v / 1amp output. So you would think the 12v usb adapters which are rated the same would work as well.
thoughts?
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did you read about the 'special' connector that is deeper than the normal ones ? please use the search function for more info.
sure did.. all of this was with the [email protected] cable..
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did you read about the 'special' connector that is deeper than the normal ones ? please use the search function for more info.
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There's also the part of the equation where the USB adapter must supply a lot more than the 500mA of current that most adapters and computer USB ports are limited to. Mine will say "charging" as long as the adapter puts out around 1A (1000mA) or more and I use the NT's supplied cable. <-- But it still won't charge as quickly as it does when I use a 2A charger such as the one it came with. The factory charger is around 2A and expecting the NT to charge with anything less may not result how you'd like. Just because your phone likes a charger doesn't mean your NT will.
There is more to it than just shorting the D+ and D- pins. If the charger was designed for iPad, then you will also need to remove 4 resistors. Check out the two links in my post relating this issue at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614091
I modded a car charger by just shorting the two pins. My HTC EVO 4G phone showed AC charging but my NT showed USB charging. I opened it up again and removed the resistors network and NT showed AC charging right away. Good luck.
bigdogz - good advice - made an attempt at it but my eyesight and hand steadiness aint what it used to be However, I did find one that works - Scosche reviveII - GUSBC3. Its a 2.1a port for the galaxy tab and a 1amp port for apple. It charges both the galaxy tab 10.1 and the nook tablet on the 2.1a port. It also will charge in ac mode a galaxy nexus from the tab port. The 1a port does not have the d pins shorted, but will charge an iphone.

I can't Charge my Sony Xperia U with Innergie Product

I have Innergie Product
Adaptor 2.1A
http://www.myinnergie.com/MDC/Default.aspx
and PocketCell Mobile Booster
http://www.myinnergie.com/PocketCell/Default.aspx
but I can't use it charge Xperia U, Why doesn't it?
may be about Amp or voltage because Sony Adaptor is 850A but this adaptor is 0.5mA-2.1A ?
How to do it?
Thank you. :crying:
i lost my EP850 powersupply so i bought an 2.1A charger but my SXS was charging with a max of 500mA (like charging over PC-USB-Port)
After a while of google and searching this forum, i found out that the SXS is checking either the DATA-wires are shorted or not. If not, the SXS is charging with a max of 500mA. If they are shorted, SXS is charging with roughly 1A.
I cut of one of my USB-Cables and shorted the wires by myself. (i shorted the wires to micro-USB, the data-wires at the other end (the one going in the supply) are not connected anymore)
If you are not experienced in electronics, you can buy a dedicated charger cable or an adapter.
I think this could be a solution for your SXU too.
Bendix83 said:
i lost my EP850 powersupply so i bought an 2.1A charger but my SXS was charging with a max of 500mA (like charging over PC-USB-Port)
After a while of google and searching this forum, i found out that the SXS is checking either the DATA-wires are shorted or not. If not, the SXS is charging with a max of 500mA. If they are shorted, SXS is charging with roughly 1A.
I cut of one of my USB-Cables and shorted the wires by myself. (i shorted the wires to micro-USB, the data-wires at the other end (the one going in the supply) are not connected anymore)
If you are not experienced in electronics, you can buy a dedicated charger cable or an adapter.
I think this could be a solution for your SXU too.
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Oh! Thank you very much.
Today, I have buy Micro USB cable type non-data , it have 4pin (normal micro usb is 5pin)
It can charge with innergie adaptor and pocket cell.

8.4 Chargers

I recently bought a scoche dual port 21W(dual USB with 2.1 amps per) charger that I thought could charge my 8.4 but it doesn't even seem to recognize it's plugged in. Is this because it needs that extra .3 volts from the stock charger? And are there any multiport chargers capable of charging this tablet?
I have 4-port charger from "Volmate" that I got from Amazon. Works fine. I don't see that same unit any more but they have a 5-port that looks similar:
http://www.amazon.com/5-port-Family...=UTF8&qid=1415848997&sr=8-16&keywords=volmate
The tablet doesn't need the .3 extra volts, it can use a variety of chargers as long as they are 5V 2A, it can even charge hooked to a PC , though the current from a computer would most like just be enough to power the device and not actually charge it.
Not sure why the tablet wouldn't recognize the charger you hooked up, does the battery icon have a X through it?
My Tab Pro can be used with many different chargers which sustain 2A or higher.
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I recently bought a scoche dual port 21W(dual USB with 2.1 amps per) charger that I thought could charge my 8.4 but it doesn't even seem to recognize it's plugged in. Is this because it needs that extra .3 volts from the stock charger? And are there any multiport chargers capable of charging this tablet?
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It requires the D+ and D- pins shorted together with 1.2 V on them. Google "Charging your Smartphone from USB without fear" Sorry I can't post links.
I cracked open my car charger and changed out the resistors to 330k and 110k. It works now. The chargers that mention having a chip / IC like the Anker chargers with SMART IQ auto detects and works. The .3 V difference is to make up for the voltage drop of the cable, it isn't necessary but it lets it charge faster.
Fox9p3400 said:
It requires the D+ and D- pins shorted together with 1.2 V on them. Google "Charging your Smartphone from USB without fear" Sorry I can't post links.
I cracked open my car charger and changed out the resistors to 330k and 110k. It works now. The chargers that mention having a chip / IC like the Anker chargers with SMART IQ auto detects and works. The .3 V difference is to make up for the voltage drop of the cable, it isn't necessary but it lets it charge faster.
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They're 33K (to +) and 10K (to -) resistors.
I made few of them so I can charge old type Tab and Note with iPad-like plug.
I'm not sure what this is all about... To charge my 8.4 I mostly use my 1.5A HTC One charger or an older LG 1A. On my boat I'm using a bog standard cigarette lighter USB charger with two 2A outlets (not more than 3A combined). I've never had any problems with any of these.
Why would I need one with shortened D+/D- pins (or do all chargers have this implemented?)

Quick Charge \ AFC to VOOC \ Dash \ Rapid adapter

I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
chowfun said:
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
chowfun said:
I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
tengtengvn said:
Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
tengtengvn said:
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
thomast said:
I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
chowfun said:
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
tengtengvn said:
Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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dermotti said:
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
tengtengvn said:
Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
chowfun said:
Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.

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