I upgraded to the official ICS through kies, and have to say am not impressed at all by it. I waited for the official update and didnt root my phone to get ICS earlier. so now since i dislike the official, i want to go with a custom. now i have never rooted a phone before, but i have found some steps online on how to root a galaxy s2. The link is galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-ics-on-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/
I have heard there are many ways to root the same device, where one may work better than another. So should i follow these steps, or does anyone recommend another way? is it even true there are more than one ways to root?
I'm just used to iphones one click jailbreaks.
I searched the forums but it seems no one really needs help with simple rooting anymore. My goal is to install Google Now onto my device. Thanks.
xnotoriouzpakix said:
I upgraded to the official ICS through kies, and have to say am not impressed at all by it. I waited for the official update and didnt root my phone to get ICS earlier. so now since i dislike the official, i want to go with a custom. now i have never rooted a phone before, but i have found some steps online on how to root a galaxy s2. The link is galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-ics-on-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/
I have heard there are many ways to root the same device, where one may work better than another. So should i follow these steps, or does anyone recommend another way? is it even true there are more than one ways to root?
I'm just used to iphones one click jailbreaks.
I searched the forums but it seems no one really needs help with simple rooting anymore. My goal is to install Google Now onto my device. Thanks.
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I'm sorry but everything is wrong about your post. You need to do some research before you root. NEVER use galaxys2root.com for anything. Google now only fully works on jellybean and until those roms come out you're out of luck.
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Nick281051 said:
I'm sorry but everything is wrong about your post. You need to do some research before you root. NEVER use galaxys2root.com for anything. Google now only fully works on jellybean and until those roms come out you're out of luck.
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I did alot of research, i didnt know galaxys2root wasnt a trustworthy site. Can you please recommend another way i could root after upgrading to official ICS? I have read a few articles about a port onto ICS devices. But if you dont recommend to do that just yet, i still want to flash a custom rom onto my device. i really hate the official at&t ics compared to the customs i have tried on other peoples phones.
I have read articles of how to root on here as well, but they are years old so im not sure if they are still the best method and are compatible for ICS.
xnotoriouzpakix said:
I did alot of research, i didnt know galaxys2root wasnt a trustworthy site. Can you please recommend another way i could root after upgrading to official ICS? I have read a few articles about a port onto ICS devices. But if you dont recommend to do that just yet, i still want to flash a custom rom onto my device. i really hate the official at&t ics compared to the customs i have tried on other peoples phones.
I have read articles of how to root on here as well, but they are years old so im not sure if they are still the best method and are compatible for ICS.
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got my answer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746181 .if i dont know which kernel to choose should i be rooting my device? after rreading i was thinking to go with NEAK but then there are more options for AOSP/AOKP kernel, WITH mic swap, and WITHOUT mic swap. I know for i777 i need a without mic swap kenel, but whats the difference if i do the AOSP/AOKP kernel from the mic swaps?
xnotoriouzpakix said:
got my answer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746181 .if i dont know which kernel to choose should i be rooting my device? after rreading i was thinking to go with NEAK but then there are more options for AOSP/AOKP kernel, WITH mic swap, and WITHOUT mic swap. I know for i777 i need a without mic swap kenel, but whats the difference if i do the AOSP/AOKP kernel from the mic swaps?
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Any of the four kernels linked in the OP of the thread you referenced will do. I don't think there are any other appropriate kernels anyway.
The kernel you need will be no mike swap, since this is not a converted I9100 rom. And it must work with Samsung roms, so AOSP/AOKP only kernels will not work.
It doesn't really matter much which one you choose, if you are going to flash a rom, since the rom will come with the rom developers preferred kernel anyway.
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Any of the four kernels linked in the OP of the thread you referenced will do. I don't think there are any other appropriate kernels anyway.
The kernel you need will be no mike swap, since this is not a converted I9100 rom. And it must work with Samsung roms, so AOSP/AOKP only kernels will not work.
It doesn't really matter much which one you choose, if you are going to flash a rom, since the rom will come with the rom developers preferred kernel anyway.
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whats the difference between mic swap and no mic swap anyway besides that one is for 9100 and others for i777. just curiousity.
thanks for the help.
xnotoriouzpakix said:
whats the difference between mic swap and no mic swap anyway besides that one is for 9100 and others for i777. just curiousity.
thanks for the help.
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Exactly what it sounds like, the mic gets swapped
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xnotoriouzpakix said:
whats the difference between mic swap and no mic swap anyway besides that one is for 9100 and others for i777. just curiousity.
thanks for the help.
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The i9100 ROMS that are ported to the i777 need the mic swap because the i9100 mics and ear piece are swapped. So you don't have to talk in to the ear piece on the i777....
Happy victim of galaxys2root, lol
ok beaches.... cannot open bad is what it is... BAD... downloading the zips again and installing worked!!!! Happy Joy joy!
So... thinking.. yes where I first went wrong... with having aokp running I thought sweet, I've got my big boy pants on and I'll just try and update to the latest AOKP... again not knowing my ass from my head I'm getting cannot open emmc bull....
For the lameo that I must be for nut finding the solution after trying for an hour somebody throw me a freaking bone.... with 50K people online here surely someone can hold my hand and tell me what to do so i can drull on my att gs2 with the latest AOKP running on it
Please hurry with a reply and thank you in advance... your Mom would be proud you helped an old man that needs help crossing the rom...
--Barry
Nick281051 said:
I'm sorry but everything is wrong about your post. You need to do some research before you root. NEVER use galaxys2root.com for anything. Google now only fully works on jellybean and until those roms come out you're out of luck.
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I'm strangely happy about finding galaxys2root... I wished I'd started here so that my understanding of rooting , kernels, roms and all the tips and tricks made some sort of sense to me....
With that said w/o the sells pitch of the AOKP and the video from that website I wouldn't have chanced "brick'n" my GS2(at&ti777) for the AOKP and luckily i got it working and love it so much it had me searching more about it and found XDA; TASK650, WONNER... I'd love to say I'm going to read 1000's of post a day to get caught up to speed but there's going to be probably 10X more post a day than i can read so I'll just keep falling behind...
What I'd like to know is now that someone(me) has done the half/hazard root job and has a functioning rom/phone... exactly in really boring spoon feeding language and pretty pictures go about getting everything needed to get to the latest kernels/roms for AOKP
Here's my current settings thanks to outdated rootgs2....
About phone
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Model number: SGH-I777
Android version: 4.0.4
Baseband version: I777UCLE5
Kernel version: 3.0.28-Wurd-CM-gaaa0e0b-dirty [email protected]****-You#1 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 14 06:27:46 PDT 2012 (FU dirty?)
Build number: Task650's AOKP
Mod version: AOKP i777 Build 36
Feel free to point and laugh... but i love my Samsung Galaxy S2 more than ever now... so excited to have it better, just don't know what to do next....
Which way do i go for getting my phone up to date with AOKP... please type slowly
--Barry
Do I need a new kernel???
I've got the newest AOKP... do I need to change my kernel or is it ok...
K Version... 3.0.28-CM-gaaa0e0b task650-****You #1
--Barry
bjsexpress said:
I've got the newest AOKP... do I need to change my kernel or is it ok...
K Version... 3.0.28-CM-gaaa0e0b task650-****You #1
--Barry
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You don't need to but many like fluxxi
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Fluxxi Me...
Nick281051 said:
You don't need to but many like fluxxi
Sent from my Sony Xperia Ion
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So... I'm proud I got the latest AOKP on my AT&T GS2... so what would I do to get fluxxi around here???
I feel like it's Russian roulette every time i try something with my phone... exciting but not so much if i f'up... in easy steps can the kernel be replaced from the current rom without restarting all over again? What would fluxxi do for me being I don't know what day it is???
--Barry
You shouldn't install fluxi until you know why you want it.
In the mean time, the kernel you installed with your AOKP is just fine.
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You shouldn't install fluxi until you know why you want it.
In the mean time, the kernel you installed with your AOKP is just fine.
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This, if you don't know how or why then don't
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WELCOME! I see alot of noobs here and i would suggest that you take some time to READ READ READ, here on xda. There are stickies in every sub-section worth reading. ALL.. and i mean ALL your questions have been asked at least 1000 times, any information you need is right here in these threads. You will def. get ALOT more help if you just take your time and read the threads, We were all noobs once... and for gods sake use the thanks button if someone has given you information, or helped in anyway!
If i were to recommend a rom to anyone that wants the ICS experience, i would have to go with TASK650&Ktoonsez AOKP. It is simple enough for someone who is new to set up and as you learn more things you will be able to discover you can pretty much customize anything you'd like with it. As far as Kernels go, everyone experiences different results. One may yield great battery life and be as smooth as butter for me, and the same one might not play nice with yours. So the best advice is to Flash all of them (not at once:laugh and let it settle in (usually like 3 charge cycles) and make your decision off of that.
Hope this helps some...
Thanks for the input... I'd only seen one thing that made me want aokp without a clue of what else it may have/do. After installing it... I needed private time alone with all of the wonderful finger strokes I'd given my screen
I'll reluctantly read what I can find on what the geek the flux capacitor does... but please feel free to give out the high lights to why you have it or had it installed and if there's reasons you don't have it any more then number one con to not use the fluxster.
Thanks again xda masters!
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I'm finally thinking I'm going to root my i777, too much cool stuff good on not to.
But I'm not sure what my best route is if I'm planning to keep TW and the stock ROM.
Is there a kernel that is known to work better or is more stable for everyday use with stock? Or one that can do stock and custom if I decide to try a new ROM? I know there's dailydriver and a few others which get good reviews.
Also do all of them give the triangle? I know it's an easy fix but I'm curious.
Thanks in advance for the help
Entropy512'a daily driver kernel is enhanced stock and therefore works with stock our any custom rom based on stock.
For root, use the sticky post in the general forum, our if you are concerned with that yellow triangle, use the guide linked in my signature.
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Ive used this guy's videos to root both my Tab 10.1 & my Galaxy SII. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-2Z2dKsuio
This is the video I saw which set off my interest in finally rooting. How does this one compare to others?
Not a one click, but no flash counter to worry with either.
This is the guide I used....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
Is it the ROM or the launcher that has the biggest effect on the look and interaction of the phone?
AntwanL said:
This is the video I saw which set off my interest in finally rooting. How does this one compare to others?
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I wouldn't know, this is the only one Ive used.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309293
Both seem to get the same outcome but which is my best route? I like the idea of not having a real trace of a root ever being done in case something goes wrong but at the same time is the extra work really worth it? And is there really all that much risk involved?
What did you guys do?
I ended up doing the Zedomax root/kernel method, then flashed UnNamed 1.3.1 so I am now in the process of rebuilding my phone and figuring out all of the joys of a rooted phone
so ill start off with please dont go tell me to read google things. iv been on this site for awhile with many different phones i read a lot. now to the topic. iv had my photon since it came out i love it and it does all it needs to but i miss flashing roms and getting that "new phone" feeling when you do. iv been running stock on the photon since the start with no real reason to flash. mainly because the loss of hardware or other things on our roms. dont get me wrong im very happy and thankful for those who put hard work into this bad boy every day. now im getting tired of it and i want to flash just wondering in anyone thinks one thing over the other, i dont mind unlocking but i do want reliability and a bit a flash to it. i need my mms, my camera, video. can anyone suggest whats doing the best on your own photon rom, kernal, locked unlocked. i do understand that each phone is different and acts different with different set ups. i just wanna head in a good direction and not mess with the odd stuff. thanks always xda members for making my phone more addictive then crack with your wonderful hard work. thank you so much. happy holidays to everyone and their families.
ruthlessbeatle said:
so ill start off with please dont go tell me to read google things. iv been on this site for awhile with many different phones i read a lot. now to the topic. iv had my photon since it came out i love it and it does all it needs to but i miss flashing roms and getting that "new phone" feeling when you do. iv been running stock on the photon since the start with no real reason to flash. mainly because the loss of hardware or other things on our roms. dont get me wrong im very happy and thankful for those who put hard work into this bad boy every day. now im getting tired of it and i want to flash just wondering in anyone thinks one thing over the other, i dont mind unlocking but i do want reliability and a bit a flash to it. i need my mms, my camera, video. can anyone suggest whats doing the best on your own photon rom, kernal, locked unlocked. i do understand that each phone is different and acts different with different set ups. i just wanna head in a good direction and not mess with the odd stuff. thanks always xda members for making my phone more addictive then crack with your wonderful hard work. thank you so much. happy holidays to everyone and their families.
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I mean we have CM7, MIUI, and about what 4 I think modified moto roms we have themes.
There is alot of roms in other phone forums and most of those are just themed roms
You have to flash a kernel and play some tegra games
I'm running MIUI now
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im personally on stock.. but magnifier is a good one as long as you dont mind teh update notification until he puts out the newest version
shabbypenguin said:
im personally on stock.. but magnifier is a good one as long as you dont mind teh update notification until he puts out the newest version
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thanks ill check it out.
Some people like stock with just a kernel flash. Some like it simple and bloat free like skinny. Everything you listed works on all of them except maybe miui for the moment. The most stable and complete is skinnyrev2-test3, because its based on 198-7/254-5. Cm7 and miui are awesome and a must try(im partial to cm because i helped in the beginning and was there when the very first version hit the g1, but i like webtop). Magnifier is great too. Its 154 based but its compiled from source i think. Correct me if im wrong shabby. If moto actually updated their source i would build from source too. Jokerstock-test1 was source built.
My advice, titanium backup and flash them all. Few days on each, with updates you should feed your flashing needs. Plus webtop is soon to be flashable.
Unlike other phones we got pretty much everything you would want fully working. Enhanced stock roms with better battery/performance. Cm7, miui, and roms in many languages. You can find my kernels in 6 different countries. Each with local roms. All blur based roms can be flashed in bootstrap with little edits, giving you 4g. Pretty soon im going to help cybik and miui guys get a bootstrap method up with a dual boot option.
Lets the flashing commence
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no is not from source. he just was under the impression that newer firmwares wouldnt boot with custom kernels so he went with 154 hes working on updating everything to 198_7 as i continue to yell at him about it
stupid holidays and people claiming they cnat do any work...
Oh, i just assumed 154 would be source built. You must bug him harder to update to 198-7 then.
shabbypenguin said:
no is not from source. he just was under the impression that newer firmwares wouldnt boot with custom kernels so he went with 154 hes working on updating everything to 198_7 as i continue to yell at him about it
stupid holidays and people claiming they cnat do any work...
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for some reason i stayed with stock so far but sense or ics would convince me to root!
What about better battery life
Kent_Davis said:
for some reason i stayed with stock so far but sense or ics would convince me to root!
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Hey guys,
I'm on the lookout for a good kernel.
Which kernel you you say is the best for my needs?
Need:
Over-/Underclockable
Over-/Undervolt
GPU renedring
GPU Over-/Underclock
small and compact
Dualboot would be nice aswell, as I am trying to stay stock, but yet I am making a custom ROM... (Both with root)
If you could help me, I would be greatful...
And, maybe you could also give me a few tips, on where to code Android on a Windows Machine, Linux isn't really my cup of tea, you see...
But, it really needs to be flashable via Odin(because the Siyah recovery isn't all that good, but I don't want to downgrade, just get a complete new kernel)
familyguy59 said:
Hey guys,
I'm on the lookout for a good kernel.
Which kernel you you say is the best for my needs?
Need:
Over-/Underclockable
Over-/Undervolt
GPU renedring
GPU Over-/Underclock
small and compact
Dualboot would be nice aswell, as I am trying to stay stock, but yet I am making a custom ROM... (Both with root)
If you could help me, I would be greatful...
And, maybe you could also give me a few tips, on where to code Android on a Windows Machine, Linux isn't really my cup of tea, you see...
But, it really needs to be flashable via Odin(because the Siyah recovery isn't all that good, but I don't want to downgrade, just get a complete new kernel)
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Actually the Siyah recovery is the same one that Hyperdroid stock kernel uses as well and i have not had any complaints with it so far. And another thing. No point me telling you what kernel to go because what might work for me might not work for you.
Search
Read
Try and
Enjoy
Those are the only way you can get to learn and find out the awesomeness of Android. By playing about and finding out stuff on your own. You seem to know what you are doing and talking about so instead of opening threads take the time to actually read and ask the appropriate questions in the corresponding threads..
That is the only way i got to learn and still learning.
Those are the only way you can get to learn and find out the awesomeness of Android. By playing about and finding out stuff on your own. You seem to know what you are doing and talking about so instead of opening threads take the time to actually read and ask the appropriate questions in the corresponding threads..
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To be really honest, I'm not an Android fan at all... I'm just using it... And I'm waiting for WP7 to come to the GS II, I've tried nearly every kernel, don't like any of them, really... I'm just asking for help, and it just needs to have the criteria listed in my thread... But still thx
familyguy59 said:
To be really honest, I'm not an Android fan at all... I'm just using it... And I'm waiting for WP7 to come to the GS II, I've tried nearly every kernel, don't like any of them, really... I'm just asking for help, and it just needs to have the criteria listed in my thread... But still thx
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I think you bought the wrong phone if you are waiting for WP7 to come to the galaxy s2 as it is a totally different operating system and no way it can be ported over. So you might as well sell your phone now and go and buy a Nokia Lumnia if you do not like android and want WP7.
So what you just mentioned above the only kernel that i would recommend is Siyah. But you have to give it at least a few days or a week to actually get the full benefit of a kernel not a day or two. But anyway down to you i just thought i give you my opinion. Best of luck anyway
familyguy59 said:
I'm waiting for WP7 to come to the GS II
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So far in the last hour you've made a thread claiming to stop the custom binary counter increasing, a thread claiming you can root your phone by typing "adb root", and now this.
Today is a new low.
oinkylicious said:
So far in the last hour you've made a thread claiming to stop the custom binary counter increasing, a thread claiming you can root your phone by typing "adb root", and now this.
Today is a new low.
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Right, whatever your name is, just f**k off,man! What sort of f**ker are you?!
Try all this yourself, and then you'll see!
Do you know what? The only "low" here, is you... -.-*
We suggest trying kernels until you find one you like.
Closed.
Hello I'm a newb!
I'm sorry, but this is the unfortunate state I find myself in.
When I first found this site, what I was expecting to find was a ICS for my phone. I could not have guessed what I would learn here. I had no idea I had a counter in my phone to worry about when installing open sourced roms? Next after much more reading I am to learn the source code Google releases is not complete, and uses binary drivers? Now I am to learn about CIQ, and my phone is spying on me? Wow!
Before I say anything else I want to express my thanks to this community. This has been such a resource I had no idea that it would be when I started. Thank you!
Now on to my question that after learning about all of that I don't seem to have a clear answer to. What I wanted when I first considered getting an Android phone, was to build from source, and run my own rom. I still want this, even more so since I learned about CIQ.
1. Due to the counter on my phone
2. I am to understand multiple images that make the phone work (boot, firmware, system)
3. The binary drivers.
Is this at all a reasonable goal?
Are there more flash images that I haven't read about yet?
Would having a direct from Google rom even be desirable?
I own a stock SGH-I777, I have done nothing to it yet.
Lastly about this site:
Is there anything you think I should read about on the forums?
Any language I should know, as in what does hellraiser imply/mean?
Any Android experience you think might benefit a could be developer?
Counter can be reset and avoided all together.
Sorry I don't know much about AOSP building, but your better off starting with compiling CM and learn from there unless you are really experienced in coding.
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source. Ty for reminding me.
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Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source.
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AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
LiLChris06 said:
AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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No it was just some phones, I think the skyrocket had it at some point.
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Ok, so I rooted my first cell phone. It would seem heimdall latest has a bug that will brick your phone. (I'm on Mac OS Lion) I used the 1.3.1 instead, and it worked fine.
I saw many more sites, and this was quite easy. The way they showed it was very complex. Since I'm new at this should I wait to try out a ICS rom till after Samsung releases their source code, and the devs have had a chance to get it stable? How complete is the open source version of ICS? There was a note on the fsf.org page that linked me over here that some of the parts were still binary. Is it still true?
I think long term I want to get away from the official releases.
Well, you came this far, might as well flash an ICS rom now. If the leaks are any indication of status, the Samsung release will be pretty stable but the included kernel is problematic because it can cause hardbricking. Besides, you want to get away from stock, and all of the big roms released thus far are pretty darn stable; I don't know anything about binary parts or any of the coding, but plenty of people have no problem running CM or AOKP. Even the Samsung-based roms all look AOSP-like nowadays because they use Apex or Nova (not many devs like Touchwiz anymore). So take your pick, they're all good roms and most look like AOSP to some extent, with a few (mainly CM and AOKP) striving for pure AOSP.
Make sure to read and follow this guide carefully for flashing stuff, and have fun!
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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NEME5I5 said:
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Prother, by no mean to offense you, but seriously, if you don't know those fundamental technical terms, I strongly suggest you to hold off what you about to do and spend more time reading.
Let me go off and do a search the post for you, where you can get used to those terms.
Hang tight, prother.
Pirateghost said:
Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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So I will. To be honest I don't see the connection between the new jargon, and development I learn in school. There is definately much to learn here. I was expecting this to be like Zaurus development from back when I was active, it's very clear to me that this is a very different beast.
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
votinh said:
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
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Thank you friend. I may not have my own rom at the end of summer, but I should be on my way to understanding what would be needed for one.
Well the terms I wanted are not present on that list, most of that I was familiar with. To be honest, some of it I have not seen before as well. What is hellraiser, and some of the other xda developed jargon? I do have a tab open to that part of the forums, I just hadn't made it over there yet. I started on the forums for my device, then Android OS, and lastly general. Is there any other place I should pay special attention to that would help me?
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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Ok? I'm not sure I understand, is there something you don't like about the aokp rom that doesn't work very well?
I want off of the carrier provided images based on personal conviction. Google's development practices smack of cathedral, as do all of the 3rd party companies. In a sense they are abusing the spirit of free software by using a signed kernel to impede (if not actually prevent) our right to modify hardware we own. Any normal user of the software provided by the community (bazaar) can only help the cause.
I plan to share what I personally learn with close friends who live in my area. The more people we liberate, the better for everyone else. I simply applaud the work done here.
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
From a relative noob:
Follow the directions in the " [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!! " thread. Then pick a rom you want to try and follow the CWM directions ... after that , find a ROM you like. If you don't want to void your warranty, wait for your carrier to provide the closest thing to what you want ... but, I'm happy with my flashed ICS ROM.
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
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Just like everyone else has said. Read read read. Search for answers for your questions before you ask on forums. U will be fine as long as u can read and follow simple directions. Good luck to u. If u haven't flashed a rom yet I would recommend aokp. Awesome rom.
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Hello everyone I am new to Android world as of today. I've been on iPhone for the past 2 years and honestly apple has nothing compared to Android. My galaxy note is like a handheld computer... like holy s**t I'm so overwhelmed right now. But as a noobie I do have a couple questions...
Is it worth rooting and flashing a custom ics ROM (what's the best ics ROM to date) when my service provider Telus is releasing ics by early July?
Also, is it possible for me to download the official ics via ota with a rooted phone? If so how do I do that. I've read threads that sometimes rooting disables ota download.
Thanks for looking and I apologize for being a dumba**.
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Are you new to android? Then experience your android phone as it is without rooting just yet. As you experience your phone and read some threads you will get to know if rooting is for you or not. This also will allow you to see if your phone may have issues.
If you want the OTA Telus ICS then I suggest you don't root. I don't believe you would receive the OTA unless you were stock unrooted. So my suggestion would be to hang in there for a little time.
Welcome, and congratulations on seeing the light!
The ICS roms we have are awesome so far, with only a couple random bugs that don't keep them from being daily drivers. I definitely recommend rooting and romming if you take the time to read up on everything you can about it. It's a very simple process if you take your time, and definitely worth learning.
Also, if you feel like doing the official update get familiar with how to go back to stock. When you go back to stock, it renews your warranty and also your ability to receive official firmware updates.
Personally, I think that custom roms are better than official, and once your official is released, you will be able to get a rooted version on here within a day out two at most usually. The only time my Samsung phones have ever had stock software is the first and only the first day I have them, and also if I need to do a warranty exchange
Edit: not seeing a stock package for Telus, stop I would hold on for a bit or try to work with a developer to get them what they need to set up a stock Odin package for Telus users.
Second edit: actually it looks like there is a stock package for you. I can help more with some links later, but can't right now
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Welcome to the best phone world you can imagine and you made a wise choice to pick up the big boss aka the G note...youll love it stock or rooted and with customs roms on it....this community is the best and has some great devs also any rom you choose your gonna love their rom believe me....Ive been to here and went to the htc one x and to the international note and now im back to stay....those other phones couldnt compare to this one...the international note is brick heaven and the htc one x is just too damn small when your coming from a note lol....but if you love having your phone tweaked out like me then yes root and rom it out lol...but if all that doesnt matter than you can stay stock and still love the phone just as much....but once again wise choice on the phone and glad to have you here....
Please make yourself familiar with the phone first like everybody else suggested. I have gone through few android phones and I still have so much to learn especially when it comes to rooting and loading roms. With samsung, there's a flash counter if you care about warranty and what not even though there are ways to go around it. I have rooted mine but staying on the stock rom and waiting for the official ICS rom. GB rom is perfectly working fine for my needs.
Please read and read over and over everything before you go ahead and mess around with the rom.
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Please make yourself familiar with the phone first like everybody else suggested. I have gone through few android phones and I still have so much to learn especially when it comes to rooting and loading roms. With samsung, there's a flash counter if you care about warranty and what not even though there are ways to go around it. I have rooted mine but staying on the stock rom and waiting for the official ICS rom. GB rom is perfectly working fine for my needs.
Please read and read over and over everything before you go ahead and mess around with the rom.
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There is a flash counter reset, so that's basically a null point. Plus, many people have had no problem returning or exchanging with it tripped.
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Yes. I know there is. That's why I said there are ways to go around. I have rooted mine with the one roloracer posted and can use CWM to flash all different roms without even tripping the flash counter to begin with. One less step of needing to reset the counter.
I just want OP to be aware of it.
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Yes. I know there is. That's why I said there are ways to go around. I have rooted mine with the one roloracer posted and can use CWM to flash all different roms without even tripping the flash counter to begin with. One less step of needing to reset the counter.
I just want OP to be aware of it.
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Ah, I forgot flashing from cwm doesn't up the counter. Good point.
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Wow you guys have been really helpful thank you very much
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No problem. Here's a good guide for you to read. Just read everything you can before doing anything and you'll soon be unleashing the beast they call the galaxy note.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
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Welcome Android! The Note is my first Android phone. I also came from iPhone and don't regret the move at all. Note is the best overall phone experience I've had.
This is sort of on topic, is there a comparison thread of the different roms and what they have to offer vs. others? That kind of thread might be really helpful for new and seasoned pros.
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Welcome Android! The Note is my first Android phone. I also came from iPhone and don't regret the move at all. Note is the best overall phone experience I've had.
This is sort of on topic, is there a comparison thread of the different roms and what they have to offer vs. others? That kind of thread might be really helpful for new and seasoned pros.
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pretty much the only diff in roms are
CM9 & AOKP have all the bell & whistles ...such as tweaks and etc...
the others are stock based with addition add ons...either way you gonna love it...we have awesome devs in this community...as youll soon see....and glad to have you in the note community...
CM9 is Android at it's best.
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CM9 is Android at it's best.
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I agree coffin but that im leaning toward aokp...love it lol....but both are amazing...
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pretty much the only diff in roms are
CM9 & AOKP have all the bell & whistles ...such as tweaks and etc...
the others are stock based with addition add ons...either way you gonna love it...we have awesome devs in this community...as youll soon see....and glad to have you in the note community...
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just know that you will lose a lot of the S-pen and all Touchwiz capabilities if/when you go with any version of cm9, aokp, or aosp.
I'd stock with GB for a few weeks so you can get used to the menu interfaces and lingo surrounding Android. After that, game on!
Welcome to Android, friend.
Normally, when I first buy a phone, I like to play around with it stock for a few months before flashing the radio or switching roms etc. Just to get familiar with the phone. Since you're new to the whole Android platform, you should definitely get used to it first since there are endless possibilities you can play around with even with a stock rom.
An official ICS 4.0.3 has already been confirmed for release, why not wait for it? An official update will always be 100% safer and run a lot smoother.
This is what I recommend and I am going to be patiently waiting for the ICS 4.0 to officially be released. It's just a matter of time.
How many times have we seen a user new to android/note that root, flash, and ATTEMPT to reset the flash counter only to come to this board crying that their phone is bricked? (one or two a month?)
As others said, if you root/flash, when Ice Cream Sandwich becomes available from your carrier, you will not get it.
If you do root/flash, DON'T worry about the flash counter because if something goes wrong with reseting the flash counter, you might have a brick but most likely several hours of panic/frustration trying to get your phone working.
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How many times have we seen a user new to android/note that root, flash, and ATTEMPT to reset the flash counter only to come to this board crying that their phone is bricked? (one or two a month?)
As others said, if you root/flash, when Ice Cream Sandwich becomes available from your carrier, you will not get it.
If you do root/flash, DON'T worry about the flash counter because if something goes wrong with reseting the flash counter, you might have a brick but most likely several hours of panic/frustration trying to get your phone working.
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Its more so a new user to xda thing as I see it. Yes, its partially a new to android thing, but if they learned how to search and read and learn everything they can, all of the info is out there to safely do anything. I had one brick way back when with my captivate, and from that point on I made sure to read as much as possible before doing anything. New users think they will just have everything handed to them and it will work perfectly, which is where they run into problems because they don't know of all the common problems and mistakes due to taking the fast track instead of actually learning about the processes.
Bottom line is they need to not only search and read, but also absorb and understand the material that is available on this site.
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Its more so a new user to xda thing as I see it. Yes, its partially a new to android thing, but if they learned how to search and read and learn everything they can, all of the info is out there to safely do anything. I had one brick way back when with my captivate, and from that point on I made sure to read as much as possible before doing anything. New users think they will just have everything handed to them and it will work perfectly, which is where they run into problems because they don't know of all the common problems and mistakes due to taking the fast track instead of actually learning about the processes.
Bottom line is they need to not only search and read, but also absorb and understand the material that is available on this site.
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Perfectly said!
The more a user reads and researches the less cluttering threads we have and the more they learn
Which the MAJORITY of people here don't do..
Sad.. truly sad but let them brick their devices as a consequence lol
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My advise would be to wait at least a month, do your research, stay on top of the forums, read all the important threads, etc. When I moved over from iPhone I waited about a month and even though it is soooo much easier to root an Android then jailbreaking an iPhone, its just means its that much more easier to make mistakes. Take your time, don't rush it Welcome to the dark side.