Ok i searched google and here but didnt find a decent answer..
its just noob questions but i hope you guys could give me simple answers..
1. apart from getting better battery life, what's the difference between 1.2ghz with no undervolt and 1.2ghz with, let's say, -50mv undervolt?? what's the advantage/disadvantage?
2. what's better for performance/battery, 800mhz no undervolt or 1.2ghz with -50mv undervolt?
3. what's the gpu for? is it for games only?
4. is the cpu or gpu which controls the browser, i mean for rendering web pages/images/videos? for example, if i set the gpu to the lowest possible tweaks and underclock it will it affect how fast the browser render pages?
I hope you bare with me, it's been a really long time i want to ask these and find answers..
Tricks25 said:
Ok i searched google and here but didnt find a decent answer..
its just noob questions but i hope you guys could give me simple answers..
1. apart from getting better battery life, what's the difference between 1.2ghz with no undervolt and 1.2ghz with, let's say, -50mv undervolt?? what's the advantage/disadvantage?
2. what's better for performance/battery, 800mhz no undervolt or 1.2ghz with -50mv undervolt?
3. what's the gpu for? is it for games only?
4. is the cpu or gpu which controls the browser, i mean for rendering web pages/images/videos? for example, if i set the gpu to the lowest possible tweaks and underclock it will it affect how fast the browser render pages?
I hope you bare with me, it's been a really long time i want to ask these and find answers..
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1)If you undervolt the CPU Core(s) gets less power, which is better for battery life, but maybe will decrease performance @ this CPU step
2)Performance: for sure 1.2Ghz (800Mhz is less than the Galaxy S )
Battery: you have to find out yourself which Kernel/ROM/CPU-config fits best for you!
3)The GPU is for everything grafical in some way (especially for Games etc.)
4)Maybe...
I really don't know but I don't think only the GPU "renders" webpages
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what is the purpose of changing the GHZ in cpu?
i dont understand this bit
can someone explain please
cheers!
Its to overclock or uderclock,or both,depending on the kernel,with a custom kernel,you can select between different options of cpu speed,and put some profiles,like when you have your screen off,charging via usb or ac,and many more.
the pros: you can have a faster phone,with the right settings,and if the kernel has underclock settings you can improve your battery life using less cpu,
the cons: at maximun speed you can damage your chip,if you use it to much time.(maximun speed is more to show off,cause it improves your benchmarks)
so is up to you what settings result better for your phone,and of course it also depends if your are a heave phone user.
cheers!
Hello, I have an HTC thunderbolt, rooted with CM7, and installed setcpu and used autodetect and I put the CPU govern to "conservative" with minimum GHz 245 and maximum 1.8GHz and I am just wondering if this is safe? because I read some threads about Compatible kernels and I jave no idea what that means, they were also talkimg about undervolting, which agaim I do not know means, anyways thanks for reading
Watoy said:
Hello, I have an HTC thunderbolt, rooted with CM7, and installed setcpu and used autodetect and I put the CPU govern to "conservative" with minimum GHz 245 and maximum 1.8GHz and I am just wondering if this is safe? because I read some threads about Compatible kernels and I jave no idea what that means, they were also talkimg about undervolting, which agaim I do not know means, anyways thanks for reading
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If your device will run reliably at 1.8GHz, then there's not much to worry about as long as the voltage isn't too high. High voltages and heat can shorten the SoC's life or kill it altogether. Generally, I don't recommend running that fast because the performance increase isn't as great from 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz as it is from 1.41GHz to 1.6GHz. These cores weren't meant to run any faster than 1.5GHz really, and anything past that doesn't increase the performance as much as the numbers might suggest.
Also, a conservative governor probably isn't ideal if you're willing to run a device that fast. That governor would seldom, if ever, use that kind of speed. I'd suggest smartass, smartassV2, ondemand, or interactive if you're looking to see a good boost in performance.
If you're looking for an app to view and adjust voltages, IncrediControl works well. For all the nitty-gritty of overclocking, I'd recommend reading my OC guide. It's in the "Second Post" of my Q&A thread. If you've got any questions, feel free to hit me up.
So does over clocking just speed things up? What are the real benefits
Boggus said:
So does over clocking just speed things up? What are the real benefits
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I look at it like this. My screen eats up most of my battery. The less time it's on, the better. Overclocking uses more power for the CPU, but the display spends less time telling you it's waiting. It doesn't really add functionality, just speed and efficiency.
Hey guys,
i know that there was an overclocked kernel for GB, just curious if any developers are planning on coming out with an updated kernel for the View Honeycomb that will support overclocking....now with HC we can really push these things to the limit and get the most out of them.
hasseye said:
Hey guys,
i know that there was an overclocked kernel for GB, just curious if any developers are planning on coming out with an updated kernel for the View Honeycomb that will support overclocking....now with HC we can really push these things to the limit and get the most out of them.
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LeeDroid's ROM has a kernel which allows overclocking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406851
You need kennel source first
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The CPU usable limit is about 1.8 vs. stock 1.5 Ghz. So you can get a little more, but you have to remember for most of the intensive tasks, its not the CPU.... but the GPU that does the brunt of the work, therefore you might not even notice the difference when the CPU is overclocked. For example your Gt3 game won't frame any faster because the video is rendered by the GPU, not the CPU. The custom kernels also enable some difference CPU governor schemes, which might improve observed performance for some things. All of these things factor into battery usage. In general increased performance means more aggressive use of battery power.
DigitalMD said:
The CPU usable limit is about 1.8 vs. stock 1.5 Ghz. So you can get a little more, but you have to remember for most of the intensive tasks, its not the CPU.... but the GPU that does the brunt of the work, therefore you might not even notice the difference when the CPU is overclocked. For example your Gt3 game won't frame any faster because the video is rendered by the GPU, not the CPU. The custom kernels also enable some difference CPU governor schemes, which might improve observed performance for some things. All of these things factor into battery usage. In general increased performance means more aggressive use of battery power.
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Hey, what about our bragging rights?
We already have the fastest CPU on the market. Do you want to crush and disenfranchise the competition?
I actually would prefer under clocking, undervolting better process management. I want better battery life.
Leedroids, custom kernel , and others, allow for under or over and also for precise voltage adjustments at each speed. Other ways to get better battery are various governors that are less aggressive than the performance governor. Check the Leedroid and other treads for more info. Of course the biggest power eaters are the display and the GPU, if you are doing video or games the GPU will consume a lot and there is not much to can do with that. Display on eats battery, you can reduce brightness to help.
Hi everybody.
It would be nice if someone could make Kernel/Rom with possible GPU overclock.
By my knowledge in Xperia P is Mali-400MP with 1 (i find somewhere 2) core fragment with default speed 200Mhz.
In older SGS2 there is Mali-400MP4 on stock 267Mhz.
Is there a way for safe overclock Mali GPU in Xperia P to 267Mhz or maybe 240Mhz?
Best regards
no, not yet, and maybe never.
it will only gives problems (battery drains much faster, phones become very hot etc.)
NovaThor chips are designed for low power consumption, also overclocking the Cpu the heat produced still low.
I think that the biggest problem is the driver of chip and its documentation
mali 400 stock Frequency min 240 max 395. why give problems (except for battery )
http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php
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no, not yet, and maybe never.
it will only gives problems (battery drains much faster, phones become very hot etc.)
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it will give problems for sure but on some heavy games our phones needs gpu overclock
Overclock only turn your phone to heater and energy eater, no to lamborgini
PS:sry for my bad english
If not overclock, atleast governor control? And I/O too if thats possible?
Is this possible atleast?
taylan08 said:
mali 400 stock Frequency min 240 max 395. why give problems (except for battery )
http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php
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max overclock on my s2's gpu is 520mhz (wid custom kernel) bt it requires 1350mV .. sufficient enough to make a fried omlet...
being an ex xu user.. i have found no game (atleast among what i play) which ran properly on s2 bt not on xu.. extra cores gives better benchmarks real life perfomance is games is almost similar...
hi all,
is there a way to undervolt and or OC the CPU and GPU?
I remember reading a article a month ago about a GPU OC, but somehow that's it. No way to download the mentioned app etc.
Is there anything for the Mi 10 / SD 865?
Snapdragons don't overclock because they're not underclocked.
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Snapdragons don't overclock because they're not underclocked.
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According to this news oage, we still have some potential left in our SD865
Xiaomi Mi 10 Overclocking Has Improved Significantly
he game performance has also been improved in addition to the higher running scores of the overclocked Snapdragon 865 models.
www.igeekphone.com
here is even a XDA link to another phone without any links to the app itself...
Abandoned
abandoned.
forum.xda-developers.com
so there is a way to OC and UV the SD865
That isn't what it appears to be to me. It appears to be an ongoing project to oc/uv the snapdragon processor and gpu and so far all they've done is managed to change the ram clockspeed. The pros of undervolting the ram is less heat but the cons is bottlenecking under load because ram uses voltage in correlation to clockspeed. If you overvolt the ram it produces more heat, processes more data but stability goes out of the window completely. This is NOT CPU/GPU core clocking and won't have any effect on the cores whatsoever, only data throughput.
I'll stand by my word coming from HTC to Xiaomi, both snapdragon phones, you can't overclock a snapdragon because they're not underclocked. It has been that way for a long time. What they advertise the chip as capable of is what the chip is capable of as by design and will actually be that way in the field.
If you want proof just take a browse around the later HTC phones and you won't see anything about core clocking, probably not ram volting either..
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That isn't what it appears to be to me. It appears to be an ongoing project to oc/uv the snapdragon processor and gpu and so far all they've done is managed to change the ram clockspeed. The pros of undervolting the ram is less heat but the cons is bottlenecking under load because ram uses voltage in correlation to clockspeed. If you overvolt the ram it produces more heat, processes more data but stability goes out of the window completely. This is NOT CPU/GPU core clocking and won't have any effect on the cores whatsoever, only data throughput.
I'll stand by my word coming from HTC to Xiaomi, both snapdragon phones, you can't overclock a snapdragon because they're not underclocked. It has been that way for a long time. What they advertise the chip as capable of is what the chip is capable of as by design and will actually be that way in the field.
If you want proof just take a browse around the later HTC phones and you won't see anything about core clocking, probably not ram volting either..
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No offense, but have you read any of the two links I posted?
They literally explain, that they changed/overclocked the GPU frequency to 865mhz
stock frequency should be 587mhz.
They did overclock the GPU.
They even proved it by showing some benchmarks.. and compared it to the SD888
And this is the first time I read, that SDs are not overclockable...
865mhz is the bus and ram frequency. The cores are in the ghz.
All that has been achieved is a higher throughput and that equates to more heat and more used power. This stuff is well researched.
I honestly dont get, where you getting the RAM OC thing.
They do not use ddr7 or ddr8 on a mobile SoC, because the tech isnt there yet...
If you search for the Andreno 650 GPU you will see its specs that it is clocked at 587mhz (and not the Ram).
They are of course adjusting the ram timings too, but the xda links tells the following:
"2. edit your settings in the 3 tables. (start with adding the extra step form 865+ to 865)
3. press "Save GPU Freq Table" after editing any page, before you move to another."
If you want to stay with your resolution on this topic, it is fine.
I just want to know where we can get the KonaBess app, because google only links me to chinese pages and somehow this topic isnt as popular as I thought.
Not 100% sure if this link is allowed.... https://github.com/xzr467706992/KonaBess/releases/tag/v0.12
Scroll down to assets and its in there.
shivadow said:
Not 100% sure if this link is allowed.... https://github.com/xzr467706992/KonaBess/releases/tag/v0.12
Scroll down to assets and its in there.
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Thanks alot
I dont know why I couldnt find it with google
btw: I hope I really didnt offend you with any of the sentences.
RaZoR No1 said:
Thanks alot
I dont know why I couldnt find it with google
btw: I hope I really didnt offend you with any of the sentences.
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Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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Thanks for the heads up, I am already aware of the "silicon lottery".
I am amazed how much juice is still left in the SD865, that OCd it can even beat the 888 and is more consistent.
Do you use any App to monitor your temps and how did you OC your CPU? Afaik KonaBess only allows GPU oc?
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Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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Hi, I can't seem to find any tutorial online on how to overclock. Could you help me out ? I am gonna order a Black Shark 4 with the Snpadragon 870 soon, which is the best cherrypicked chip along the same chipset as the 865, which means that it's more likely to be a silicon lottery win... Can we get in touch on Discord ? My username is Meli #6318.
please guide me to modify the necessary things to overclock (kernel, file...)
anyway i still want to overclock it and gpu
1dopewrx05 said:
Just a heads up, not all snapdragons are created equally. That said, there is definitely performance left to gain via OC the adreno 650 gpu of the 865. I'm currently running a massive 930mhz on my adreno 650 and a very small cpu OC and with that, it blows the 865+ away in benchmarking and trades wins with a stock SD 888 with CPU and GPU bench scores. Any OC'ing you do I highly recommend doing a stress test before thinking you're stable.
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How did you oc the cpu ? and is it possible to oc the gpu of the sd870 which is also the adreno650 but I’ve heard that it’s locked by Qualcomm trust zone , is it just a problem with sd870 or even 888 and 8 gen 1 ? Thanks in advance