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Hey guys i think this should be an important challenge to overcome maybe find out where all the ram is going and get it back without reseting our precious moguls. My experience its something that Task manager doesn't show up because when i end task on my DCD 3 1 2 ROM i dont get all of my memory back like right after reset. Also this causes inconvinient problem of starting GPS after few days of RAM going down to 8mb and not having enough to lunch TOMTOM.
Oxios doesn't not regain full mem only one third of it.
Can we some how make a better task manager or maybe purge RAM?
Writing a driver to consider our FLASH cards as constant RAM?
I would gladly sacrifice remove ability of my MicroSD for extra 4 gigs of ram and would let my memory leak on a period of roughly 4 years of constant usage.
Please lets get organized and stop hoping the next ROM upgrade will solve this issue.
This is one of the biggest downfalls of the mogul
I would suggest looking into how RAM works before making this thread.
First off, most of our ram appears to be lost due to memory leaks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak
And since, at least in my experience, most of the memory leak comes from Windows 6 (and so much worse in 6.1), you can't exactly end the windows task unless you...
restart the Mogul.
So no, an application, or task manager, wont do you any good. Not until they fix windows 6.1 up to not be lord of memory leaks. That is why new roms are often so desired, because only a rom release with some decent version of 6.1 with hopefully some patched memory leak holes could help our problem.
Second, you can't use a flash drive as ram, at least its not reasonable. You think the Mogul slows down now? Wow, just wait to you see it moving at the blistering pace of a microSD card.
Ram is so small, and so expensive, largely due to its speed. Thats why you can buy a 500GB HD for about the cost of 4GB of RAM on your computer.
Also, running from the MicroSD would be similar to the page file on your home computer. It runs from, in most cases, your C drive, its a fairly large file, getting even larger when you run multiple tasks on a low RAM system.
It is slow as a dog, and is one of the worst causes of system slowdowns. I also believe that MicroSD's have a limited number of read/writes. While not an issue so much for everyday use (taking pictures, running an app from time to time), if it were used as a swap file, it would probably wear out that SD card pretty quick.
So no, short of an amazing, simple amazing, piece of software engineering on Microsoft's part on a new Windows Mobile, someone developing some sweet, easy to install ram upgrade, or the new replacement for the Mogul coming out with more ram than we know what to do with.
You will be restarting your Mogul.
It should be possible to wright a Driver to USE RAM for swap file and some of main drivers but MicroSD card to be used to run all the extra features and programs. Also why our team of coders cant plug the memory leaks or find out the runing programs not seen by Task manager and have option to close them?
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Thanks for confirming my worst dream about the limits of our mogul. Also I notice that PPC on palm trios seems not to have these memory leaks.
This is maybe possible if we can build a tool that can reboot the shell without rebooting the actual OS. It can be combined with the command to free the memory when the OS is unloaded. This is my theory, i think that we can recover memory like this
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I would suggest looking into how RAM works before making this thread.
First off, most of our ram appears to be lost due to memory leaks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak
And since, at least in my experience, most of the memory leak comes from Windows 6 (and so much worse in 6.1), you can't exactly end the windows task unless you...
restart the Mogul.
So no, an application, or task manager, wont do you any good. Not until they fix windows 6.1 up to not be lord of memory leaks. That is why new roms are often so desired, because only a rom release with some decent version of 6.1 with hopefully some patched memory leak holes could help our problem.
Second, you can't use a flash drive as ram, at least its not reasonable. You think the Mogul slows down now? Wow, just wait to you see it moving at the blistering pace of a microSD card.
Ram is so small, and so expensive, largely due to its speed. Thats why you can buy a 500GB HD for about the cost of 4GB of RAM on your computer.
Also, running from the MicroSD would be similar to the page file on your home computer. It runs from, in most cases, your C drive, its a fairly large file, getting even larger when you run multiple tasks on a low RAM system.
It is slow as a dog, and is one of the worst causes of system slowdowns. I also believe that MicroSD's have a limited number of read/writes. While not an issue so much for everyday use (taking pictures, running an app from time to time), if it were used as a swap file, it would probably wear out that SD card pretty quick.
So no, short of an amazing, simple amazing, piece of software engineering on Microsoft's part on a new Windows Mobile, someone developing some sweet, easy to install ram upgrade, or the new replacement for the Mogul coming out with more ram than we know what to do with.
You will be restarting your Mogul.
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while every single statement you say is true, your only wrong about how long ti takes to wear out a flash device. According to Toshiba, the inventor of Flash memory and one of the top suppliers of Flash memory chips, the 10,000 cycles of MLC [Multi-Level Cell] NAND is more than sufficient for a wide range of consumer applications, from storing documents to digital photos. For example, if a 256-MB MLC NAND Flash-based card can typically store 250 pictures from a 4-megapixel camera (a conservative estimate), its 10,000 write/erase cycles, combined with wear-leveling algorithms in the controller, will enable the user to store and/or view approximately 2.5 million pictures within the expected useful life of the card.
For USB flash drives, Toshiba calculated that a 10,000 write cycle endurance would enable customers to completely write and erase the entire contents once per day for 27 years, well beyond the life of the hardware.
take into note that is only 10,000 write cycles. 100,000 which is common for most flash drive now a days. so no, he wont even be around to see the day his flash drive even wears out. LOL.
Glad to see this post picking up some steam But lets Try and focus on making A solution rather than discussin known facts
the known facts have already pointed out the problem (memory leaks in the OS) and the only solution we have without the source code (restart the OS by rebooting the phone) so what else is there to discuss?
oh yeah, we can talk about ways to get the source code so we can fix it.
well i posted one idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2257436&postcount=4
Just bought the TF201 and I'm absolutely in love, after reading some of the horror stories, I was cautiously optimistic to take the plunge, but I have a C1 model with ZERO lightbleed, great Wi-Fi, GPS is faster than on my Nexus S indoors, and my bluetooth headphones work great without touching the wifi.
That being said, I have a couple of questions:
1. Since Twitter and Facebook apps don't run all that smoothly, (I'm attributing this to their lack of optimization for tablets) I went into the developer options to check off the option for "force GPU rendering" which really helped, it's buttery smooth now, but the warning said that it could slow down my tablet, yadda, yadda, will this option pose any kind of problem? It hasn't thus far on my Nexus S which is running the latest version of Cyber-GRMOD but I don't know if it makes a difference what with this being a tablet.
2. Am I the only one who gets RIDICULOUSLY slow transfer speeds on this thing? I mean accepting defeat that I can't sync all my songs (about 15 gb) from iTunes onto the tablet, I synced about 300 songs through WMP which took about an hour, whereas it takes about ten minutes to transfer that many onto my phone.
Sorry if this doesn't fall into the rules or regulations, but I figured if it's q&a and 98% of these forums are filled with Wifi and gps Issues, I'd turn here to ask.
Glad you got an issue free prime.
1. Force GPU Rendering shouldn't pose any problem for newer apps, but some old apps may randomly crash and not work as expected. If you don't see any issues with the apps you are using, than it should be ok to keep it turned on. You will experience a faster battery drain and higher memory usage though.
Also note that, all newer apps and games use GPU rendering by default regardless of this setting, so once developers release the newer versions of their app you wont need to set this option in the settings. This will be desirable, as turning it off will give you longer battery and less memory usage.
2. The USB connection is quite fast, if you are having slower connections try setting the ASUS PC Sync off (Settings > Account & Sync). Also make sure you are using a USB 2.0 port in your computer and dont have any antivirus or other software scanning the Prime.
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2. Am I the only one who gets RIDICULOUSLY slow transfer speeds on this thing? I mean accepting defeat that I can't sync all my songs (about 15 gb) from iTunes onto the tablet, I synced about 300 songs through WMP which took about an hour, whereas it takes about ten minutes to transfer that many onto my phone.
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Nope. It's generally considered to be the fault of MTP.
You can try Samba Fileserving and transfer files over Wifi. That might be faster. Another solution, which I haven't tried yet, might be Android Commander.
I've been using Swiftp on my prime with filezilla on my laptop. Seems to be more reliable and faster. I have a mac and Android file transfer kinda sucks.
Hi!
Because of the low memory issue in the International edition, I request for all Kernel Dev's that implement the possibility of the use of Swap file.
There are programs that make and use this Swap file to get more free RAM, but this programs needs that the Kernel support it.
Like :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5hemFzb2Z0LmZyZWUuc3dhcHBlciJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2&feature=nav_other
What do you think?
Cheers!
P.D:sorry for my bad english.
I think you are in the wrong section. There is a dedicated section for questions and not in the Development thread
What Low memory issue??? We have 1GB of RAM (almost) on the device! Everything works smooth on the phone!
maybe he wanna say that free memories are from 2xx~3xx mb only, which is actually less than S2 even S3 also has 1GB ram.
If the files can increase more free ram, it would be good for some heavy games and softwares to run more smoothly.
Wrong forum, but indeed I agree.
It's virtually impossible to run 2 heavy programs at once. One of them will always close when it's in the background, even if it implements a Service.
For example, Waze - It closes whenever I receive a phone call.
Just annoying. Problems I never had on S II
eitama said:
Wrong forum, but indeed I agree.
It's virtually impossible to run 2 heavy programs at once. One of them will always close when it's in the background, even if it implements a Service.
For example, Waze - It closes whenever I receive a phone call.
Just annoying. Problems I never had on S II
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This is exactly that I mean.
Sorry for the mistake to put this topic in this subforum, please, any mod move it to the correct section.
Cheers!
Wow, I definitely want this! Kernel devs : please implement this!!!
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Swap will make the phone lag terribly since the ssd writing/reading speeds are far inferior to what you neel for normal operations.
It also makes sure the internal/external storage will not live very long.
While it's a good idea to combat memory issues, paging to disk is not suitable for normal situations.
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Haha we have not needed swap since the days of the HTC hero
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Swap will make the phone lag terribly since the ssd writing/reading speeds are far inferior to what you neel for normal operations.
It also makes sure the internal/external storage will not live very long.
While it's a good idea to combat memory issues, paging to disk is not suitable for normal situations.
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Swap file to internal SD: max speed 26MB/s I think there is not a problem, but I prefer more memory. And I tell that implement the function and optional you can enable it, if you don't want you don't need to enable.
Cheers!
Can I ask you why you think you have low memory?
please select one of the following:
1) Phone going so slow it takes age to do anything I ask
2) Apps keep getting killed mid-use
3) I have looked at the numbers and they look low....
I can't choose any option. I want to explain:
-I open Internet Browser and open a Web with many videos, photos, etc, and browser closes itself.
-Open 1 game (NOVA3 for example), then put it on background to see a Web Page or check email... or open the Web browser, open 3 Webs then go to email to check, then go again to browser and all is closed, the phone needs to open all Webs again (in this case is your first option).
I think that you prefer a UNIX computer with 256MB of RAM than a UNIX computer with 16GB of RAM because you optimize the 256MB of RAM. I prefer waste memory (really don't waste it) because I want to RUN many programs at the same time.
Sorry for my very bad english, because I can't explain exactly what I want.
I'm SYSADMIN and I know what I say.
Cheers.
I understand where your coming from but I think you have failed to understand the purpose of multi-tasking on a phone (and the reason that not many phones have more than 1gb of ram yet).
Multi-tasking on a phone is designed to let you go from webpage to sms, or music to email etc, i.e. between smaller, less hungry apps.
Switching between a high ram usage game and other things is always going to be a problem, the phone was never designed to allow you to multi-task while gaming.
I know that this is a phone, not a Core I7 - 16GB RAM - SSD with Windows 7 Ultimate, but, Did you have a SGS2? with SGS2 you can make what you want and you don't have this problems off memory.
I said an example of a Web page with a lot of videos and photos that make Browser closed., not only with Games.
This is Why I want to try the Swap file. Off course if the phone goes slow down I'll prefer no Swap file, but I think that is a good idea.
Perhaps with a new firmware update Samsung solve this issue...
Cheers!
Off course if the phone goes slow down I'll prefer no Swap file, but I think that is a good idea.
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Have you ever had your Windows computer have to heavily page to disk (aka swap)? Even with my OCZ Vertex4 it's unbearable.
Just get rid of all the background apps (such as AllShare) that the S3 has running and you should be better off, it got rid of any hint of memory underrun I my had.
Get Houmiak TaskManager from market, find out which apps are running and freeze them in Titanium Backup. Problem solved
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I understand where your coming from but I think you have failed to understand the purpose of multi-tasking on a phone (and the reason that not many phones have more than 1gb of ram yet).
Multi-tasking on a phone is designed to let you go from webpage to sms, or music to email etc, i.e. between smaller, less hungry apps.
Switching between a high ram usage game and other things is always going to be a problem, the phone was never designed to allow you to multi-task while gaming.
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You are wrong.
This is my 4th Android phone.
Multitasking between several Applications which implement the Service Android Class should be possible without any of the services being killed.
I don't care about the Activity. I care about the service.
Example :
I run Torque & Waze at the same time and tend to skip between them.
If I receive an incoming call, they are both killed because of low memory.
How do I know? when I go back to either of them, the state is not kept, and waze even complains about not being stopped correctly.
Believe me I removed ANY resident useless services, uninstall about 30 system apps from wanam lite using titanium pro, and still, no good.
These things used to work on older phones like SGSII and Galaxy Note and even SGS I with stock samsung roms.
There is no reason SGS III should suffer regression in this department.
It is very easy to understand that while samsung have added plenty of "Cool" features to the phone, they have left us with an overwhelming amount of garbage. I want smart stay, I want usb OTG, I want the camera app, I want Touchwiz dialer and I want HDMI,
But not at the expense of basic use-cases.
Hell, on the Galaxy Note I was sometimes shocked at the amount of Activities left in the ram, I was impressed. Having 10 apps running in task manager. And no, I never closed them. I don't used task killers, and I don't care about "Free" ram.
I care about my Applications life cycle which sadly sucks on SGS III.
BTW, Galaxy Note had the same screen resolution give or take as the SGS III.
Something is terribly under optimized.
600MB used just by core crap.
PS. I am angry at samsung, not at you, apologies if I sound harsh.
It's also aggravating when posters here instantly assume other posters only care about Free ram. HERE - TAKE MY FREE RAM.
About the swap to sdcard, I'm not sure that is the solution.
But I am sure we need "A" solution.
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If anyone knows how I can understand exactly which process/app/apk/activiy/service is taking how much, I would happily compare it to Galaxy Note. I'm sure we will find basic applications taking too much.
If it's the GPU reserving too much memory, I am willing to settle for less GPU ram while not running games. Hell, the Galaxy Note was not that slower then SGS III
It even preserved me a lot of time which I now waste on Navigating multiple times with waze when it is closed because of a phone call.
Don't know if this has anything to with it as I haven't received my S3 yet. With the HTCOneX I had this problem as well. Then I found out, that in the
"settings".
in the "development section"
"Don't keep activities" which is unticked by default. One has to tick it ( I went on recent apps to make sure it would be saved) and then untick it again. Afterwards the HTC1X was quite cabable of multitasking. The default setting seems to have some hybrid impact and has to be set straight by hand.
Hopefully this helps your issue.
eitama said:
You are wrong.
This is my 4th Android phone.
Multitasking between several Applications which implement the Service Android Class should be possible without any of the services being killed.
I don't care about the Activity. I care about the service.
Example :
I run Torque & Waze at the same time and tend to skip between them.
If I receive an incoming call, they are both killed because of low memory.
How do I know? when I go back to either of them, the state is not kept, and waze even complains about not being stopped correctly.
Believe me I removed ANY resident useless services, uninstall about 30 system apps from wanam lite using titanium pro, and still, no good.
These things used to work on older phones like SGSII and Galaxy Note and even SGS I with stock samsung roms.
There is no reason SGS III should suffer regression in this department.
It is very easy to understand that while samsung have added plenty of "Cool" features to the phone, they have left us with an overwhelming amount of garbage. I want smart stay, I want usb OTG, I want the camera app, I want Touchwiz dialer and I want HDMI,
But not at the expense of basic use-cases.
Hell, on the Galaxy Note I was sometimes shocked at the amount of Activities left in the ram, I was impressed. Having 10 apps running in task manager. And no, I never closed them. I don't used task killers, and I don't care about "Free" ram.
I care about my Applications life cycle which sadly sucks on SGS III.
BTW, Galaxy Note had the same screen resolution give or take as the SGS III.
Something is terribly under optimized.
600MB used just by core crap.
PS. I am angry at samsung, not at you, apologies if I sound harsh.
It's also aggravating when posters here instantly assume other posters only care about Free ram. HERE - TAKE MY FREE RAM.
About the swap to sdcard, I'm not sure that is the solution.
But I am sure we need "A" solution.
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If anyone knows how I can understand exactly which process/app/apk/activiy/service is taking how much, I would happily compare it to Galaxy Note. I'm sure we will find basic applications taking too much.
If it's the GPU reserving too much memory, I am willing to settle for less GPU ram while not running games. Hell, the Galaxy Note was not that slower then SGS III
It even preserved me a lot of time which I now waste on Navigating multiple times with waze when it is closed because of a phone call.
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I'm completely with you on this.. .. I have had both the original galaxy, the s 2 the note and other Android phones with this one being my first where larger apps are closing due to low memory resources. I had Nova, my browser, videos, music, angry birds and other processes in the background on my s2 with only388megs used out of 863.... this phone, I load the browser and everything in the background closes with 675megs used out of 754.... not cool. There must be some kinda solution.. why is it that my note and s 2 have 140 more free ram anyways?
I'm using a high end phone (samsung galaxy s3) clocked to 1600mhz and using siyah kernel. No matter what governor i set the phone to (even if it's only max freq), it WILL lag if i'm downloading thru torrent client. Not immediatly, but after say one hour. I have to stop the downloads/close the app to make my phone lag free.
My client is ttorrent (pro and lite have same prpblem), but i've experienced the same result with other clients (adownloader).
What the hell is the problem? I DO NOT get any lag when doing an html direct download, then why do i get any when using torrent clients? Even if one might say: your phone is frequently dumping cache onto the filesystem cuz torrent clients first make the file then they dump data on it, THEN i would answer: this happens if i download onto my phone, as well as on my CLASS 10 32gb microsd card. Also i have downloaded content from the web thru html direct with a download accelerator that made the file first, then dumped data on disk. I believe that this lag issue happening on a high end device is just insane!!! My phone is practically dead if i dont set governor to performance while downloading!
Any help? Anybody having the same issue?
EDIT: it might have something to do with the fact that after an hour or so of video streaming from the web the player (android stock) gets REALLY laggy?(along with the phone)
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One hour? You should be happy m8.
This happens to me after 2 minutes. I need to restart te whole phone.
I tries EVERY torrent app available.
I gave up on torrents a long time ago with this phone.
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Can't believe these are the modern 700€ smartphones!
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Never had this problem with my s2.
It has been a downgrade in all areas except for the 720p screen and raw processing power.
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Never had this problem with my s2.
It has been a downgrade in all areas except for the 720p screen and raw processing power.
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That's too bad.
The s3 is a great device, it just needs some tweaking to be perfect.
Maybe it has something to do with the siyah kernel?
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If the download speed is high, usually over 2-2,5 MB/s, it's normal, since the torrent client cannot write (flush) the data to the flash drive so fast. This happens on any computer. For example, this also happens on my computer, since I only have a 7200 RPM HDD and I download with 8.5 MB/s. This wouldn't be a problem if I had a high speed-write/read SSD, for example. Of course, if I allocate more RAM to the torrent client, it won't lag for a while, until the rest of the allocated RAM is filled.
So, this happens only when download speeds exceed the writing speed of the storage device. In our case, the flash drive.
lol why aren't your torrent files finished after 1 hour?
your sgs2' max download speed is as fast as the sgs3, which is why s2 didn't have any problems writing smaller ammounts of data at a time. look at your s2's dl speeds, then use your torrent to cap your speed to what your s2's is. that'll give you a true comparative. your memory card speed doesn't effect phones internal disk speed, which is where your system is.
personally, my s2 best torrent speed was 1.2mbps. my s3 can break 3, so even if the process can handle it, the internal memory can barely keep up, which shows everywhere else on your phone.
I don't think samsung bumped up the grade of internal storage coming from s2 to s3, just made it bigger.
does your torrent offer the option to save directly to external SD card? the torrents still run thru system unfortunately, but it will be less work on your internal that way.
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Why in the first place you torrent with a phone?? =//
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I'm going to answer all of you cuz since im a new member i only get to post once evry 5 mins-.-
Anyways:
We are not using sata disks, but flash drives. Solid state memory disks. They're VERY fast at copying. And my sdcard to which i usually download (but i have expierenced lag even if downloading onto phone memory) is class 10 (30mb read, more than 3 copy).
Also i live in italy, one of the continents with lowest download/upload speeds (can't imagine why), plus i live in an extra-urban area, so i get even slpwer speeds. 350kbps is the top of my download speed (sometimes 400). So download-copying problems are not the case, 100%.
Also the reason i download to my phone is because it makes it easier to have movies on the go always with me (i download only legal movies off the web
Also my streaming player lags when streaming, it's gotta have to be something conerning the samsung phone. Anybody on htc experience this?
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Just recently obtained a redmi note 3 and I am stocked with how good it is and how performance wise it feels like a top end phone.
However I have come to the realization of....
What the hell do you need a hexacore 3gb ram for just seems a bit overboard, can't imagine why or how to use it to all its advantage...
So.. What do you use yours for??
Almost thinking virtualisation of os's should be pretty viable!
well the way miui clears apps when you power off the phone the 3gb will probably never get utilized by the very aggressive app closing miui does, but I guess in some cases like custom firmwares (cm13) it would be possible to run a ton of apps without the system closing them down,
The phone only two cores that run at 1.8 ghz, and the other 4 run at 1.4 ghz -I believe- most apps only use two cores though, I guess some expertly coded game emulators or games can take advantage of the extra cores, possibly web browsers too..., the system also has a 500 meg swap file zram (I think they should of left the swap file out though since if the system uses that it will be slower access then the actual ram)
I know the performance of the 2gb and 3gb variants are about the same, but I just had to get the 3gb version since it has a 64bit os and it might take a bit more ram then a 32bit os would, and the 32 gb emmc is nice too, very fast 100+ mb/s wite/read - so even using a big sdcard to compensate wouldn't have near the speed of the built in 32gb storage memory
my main concern with this phone is the lack of exfat support, seriously sdxc has been out for quite some time now and exfat for android is open source (from samsung), or they could of used exfat fuse support as an alternative... sdcards over 32gb are going to need to be formatted to fat32...which is kinda ridiculous
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=exfat
Intensive games will exploit the extra cores. It's also a very, very efficient battery wise.
Not really into phone games but most defiantly will try some of the classics, however more interested in apps etc, I remember on my Asus 7 I could emulate kali to do some penetration testing.. Anything like this viable on Miui
Really not bothered with custom roms and root etc got this phone to last and stock roms seems perfect so far.
Same here since it ships with android 5.1.1 it's pretty modern , Android 5+ have already switched to the new ART runtime (vs the older dalvik found on android 4), of course getting on android 6 is nice but it's not a huge step from 5, so for now I will hold off on a custom firmware and I kinda like miui 7-except the launcher which I replaced with TSF Launcher.
Since we do have an official CM13 build tree maybe if it progresses to CM14 (android 7/N) I might be tempted to switch over since N is supposed to have 20% better optimizations well see it's much too new atm.
Some android games are nice but I always had a knack for emulators like epsxe, ppsspp ,drastic, reicast ..etc so enjoyable to see android actually emulating another machine and running at native speeds, having good GPS is another thing I like about this phone, some phones can never even get a lock but this phone is very quick at getting a 3d gps lock, so nice for navigating, I haven't really tested the camera out much but the photo quality seems semi-ok (when zooming in you can see like a blur rather then pixels, where on my Samsung tablet camera it's more pixelized at high zoom, ) but pictures do look ok at normal resolution I will look into the camera more, I do know it can do 4k video and slo-mo, the camera has a uniqe flash too it has a orange flash and a white flash (to simulate sunlight?) - never seen that before.
True true, will be getting all them emulators out for sure and does it really do 4k and slow_mo? On stock camera app? Can't imagine using my tablet again after having this phone for a day ha.
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True true, will be getting all them emulators out for sure and does it really do 4k and slow_mo? On stock camera app? Can't imagine using my tablet again after having this phone for a day ha.
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Same my poor Samsung galaxy tab pro 8.4, I have been really neglecting it since I got this phone,
as for 4k video I am pretty sure it is locked out in the stock camera app, you will need to use opencamera or similar, slo-mo if I recall needs to be in 720p mode for the option to show