Folks,
I'm planning on picking up a Rezound this coming Friday, but before I do I want to make sure that there is reputable root out on this device. I've been reading through the threads and all I see is a temp root. First, which root have people used and recommend? What I think a temp root means is that simply I can root it, but if Verizon sends an OTA - I'll be unrooted again, is that correct? Also, if I root and load a new ROM I'm assuming that becomes a moot point and then I'm permanently rooted.
I know, newbie questions... sorry.
There is no temp root method on a phone that has the ota from the end of January. I'm sure most phones shipping now have this. To permanent root you need to unlock the boot loader on the htcdev website, flash amon ra recovery and then install superuser from the devolper menu in recovery.
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There is definitely a permanent root method and a good development community for the rezound. I perm rooted my phone the first week I got it and haven't looked back.
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jeradsjunk said:
There is no temp root method on a phone that has the ota from the end of January. I'm sure most phones shipping now have this. To permanent root you need to unlock the boot loader on the htcdev website, flash amon ra recovery and then install superuser from the devolper menu in recovery.
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In continuation of your post if you don't mind;
or you can go straight to a custom rom after creating a nandroid backup.
Snuzzo said:
In continuation of your post if you don't mind;
or you can go straight to a custom rom after creating a nandroid backup.
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Yes you can go custom Rom immediately. I never did a nandroid backup. Just unlocked bootloader installed amon ra recovery. Flashed Rom after Rom lol
Just make sure to read thoroughly before flashing. If flashing GB roms most will require you to install the kernel and boot image but will basically be automated. Just nerd to hit the power button in bootloader then follow the steps.
If ICS you MAY need to run the ruu leak or run a patch for older firmware.
Sounds difficult but will make more sense when you are performing the flash.
If I accept the ota update from HTC will it mess up my phone or make ne lose root?
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Yes you will lose root and Voodoo Rootkeeper does NOT work. I would wait until new exploits are found to get around this OTA, to get root back.
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rcbarr said:
Yes you will lose root and Voodoo Rootkeeper does NOT work. I would wait until new exploits are found to get around this OTA, to get root back.
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I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
sschlosnagle said:
I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
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You will need to flash a stock recovery. I would first recommend s-off before you do anything. Then you can use this method for any future updates.
bpdamas said:
You will need to flash a stock recovery. I would first recommend s-off before you do anything. Then you can use this method for any future updates.
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I already have installed the OTA. My phone, previous to the OTA, was just rooted, no unlock & stock recovery.
I have an S-Off OG EVO as well as a S-Off EVO 3D.
My EVO lte I would like to keep as stock as possible, but with root. When it is now longer my daily driver, I will be more likely to hack on it. But as my primary phone I want it as easy as possible to stay current with the radios and ROM.
Does twrp have an option restore the stock recovery? Or do I need to download that and flash it via something other than twrp?
sschlosnagle said:
I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
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Here's what I just did about 15 minutes ago. Was easy as pie. Rooted my stock rom, installed Titanium Backup and backed up what I needed, lazypanda's s-off, flashed TWRP recovery, nandroid back up stock rom, flash to MeanMike's 1.4 rom (built on the new OTA). Maintained root, s-off without HTC knowing squat, got the new OTA with the dev's built in additions, now I'm golden.
Or if in steps you want:
1.) Root: How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux]
2.) Backup apps and data you want to keep using Titanium
3.) S-Off: [S-OFF] LazyPanda S-OFF
4.) Recovery: [6/1/12] TWRP 2.1.8 - TeamWinRecoveryProject - now with usb!
5.) Nandroid backup inside TWRP
6.) New Rom: [ROM] Jul-12 MeanROM ICS v1.4 | 1.22.651.3 | 1.5-1.9 Ghz | Mods | Batt saver
6.5) Flash New Firmware: Read down on Mean's thread about flashing firmware.
Profit.
mmmdieselfumes said:
Here's what I just did about 15 minutes ago. Was easy as pie. Rooted my stock rom, installed Titanium Backup and backed up what I needed, lazypanda's s-off, flashed TWRP recovery, nandroid back up stock rom, flash to MeanMike's 1.4 rom (built on the new OTA). Maintained root, s-off without HTC knowing squat, got the new OTA with the dev's built in additions, now I'm golden.
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Thanks for the reply, but I have already taken the OTA, so going full S-Off is no longer an option, nor is it my objective at this time.
My objective is to have a Stock Phone able to receive a future OTA update, and have root access.
I am pretty clear on doing the HTC Dev Unlock, installing twrp recovery, & flashing SU from twrp. I'm just a little fuzzy on how to restore stock recovery.
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Oh wait!
Does doing the HTC Dev Unlock wipe the phone? I really don't want to have to rebuild my apps and configs without being able to Titanium Backup first!
Is there anyone even working on a software root for the current OTA? I don't mind waiting for a software root. But if one is not coming, then I need to schedule a few hours to go the Dev Unlock route. Redoing my app setup and config will take the most time. Even with the titanium backups from when I got the phone it will still takes hours to get everything back to where I want it to be.
if you into rooting and custom roms and things like that NEVER accept an OTA from sprint. ALWAYS wait for it to be incorporated into a custom ROM. just go to the MEANROM or the stock liquid smooth ROM and get one of them. just a piece of advise.
jsonger121 said:
if you into rooting and custom roms and things like that NEVER accept an OTA from sprint. ALWAYS wait for it to be incorporated into a custom ROM. just go to the MEANROM or the stock liquid smooth ROM and get one of them. just a piece of advise.
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It's just so unfortunate that having root access to your OS is something that the carriers want to so thoroughly discourage.
Like I have said, since my EVO lte is my daily driver, it must work well everyday, I prefer to keep everything stock. But I also have come to use root access often.
I love to hack on my older phones, when I have the time. But I don't always have the time available to research and implement hacks and mods, so I try to keep away from them on my main phone.
i respect ur decision but my evo is my daily driver and i have unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have s-off and have mean rom installed and its flawless man. i never have any issues like some ppl talk about. and whenever the new viper rom comes out it will be the same way im sure.
I am trying to do the same thing jsonger121.
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sschlosnagle said:
Like I have said, since my EVO lte is my daily driver, it must work well everyday, I prefer to keep everything stock. But I also have come to use root access often.
I love to hack on my older phones, when I have the time. But I don't always have the time available to research and implement hacks and mods, so I try to keep away from them on my main phone.
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I use mine as a daily driver, and for my job, it's a business critical aspect. It's easy to find a rom that's stable (Mean Rom), and doesn't "hack" things so much as enhance the capabilities that you already have. That's why I prefer to be completely unlocked, so I can do what I need to do, but still have the flexibility to accomplish the things I'd like to do. I've always thought that if you just want something "so simple, a caveman can do it", you go with something vanilla and boring like apple's products.
I have s-on, is there a guide to get s-off?
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Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
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Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
haha Yeah roms are pretty addictive! So my background in rooting is limited to the Thunderbolt, which is my first smartphone. I used the Revolutionary IO method, which got me S-Off and root. But after reading through the Juopunutbear (Unlimited IO), I am slightly confused. I definitely did not do the wiring procedures involving the antennae contacts to get S-Off with the thunderbolt. I did more research and it sounds like the S-Off in thunderbolt is a "fake" S-off from a patched hboot?
That also leads to my next questions... up until now, I thought the following:
1. hboot = bootloader, which is the "BIOS" of the phone
2. In order to be rooted, S-off must happen first (this I guess is not true from your steps)
3. Recovery = part of hboot (from what I've read so far, this is incorrect too)
Also, would you elaborate on step #4? I thought unlocked is what I want, but instead I really want to have S-off and locked bootloader?
Thanks!
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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yo!
hboot is bootloader alright: some folks like a modified hboot which lets you do more than stock hboot.
personally I keep the stock ICS hboot 2.25.
nope, you dont have to be s-0ff to be rooted, only unlocked.
You can do most all modifications with unlock EXCEPT go back to previous hboot & rom.
Recovery is separate from hboot. Recovery is a menu choice in hboot.
A new recovery can only be installed if unlocked or s-0ff.
There's ClockworkMod and AmonRa. You'll wanna check them out both, I like Amon Ra.
re: step #4.
I know it's counterintuitive, but if you unlock it again after s-0ff, even though it's s-0ff, you will
have a nasty PINK Tampered flag every time you boot to hboot/custom recovery. And that crappy reminder stays
even after you you relock. The Juopunutbear process relocks the phone, making it S-0ff, Locked. Perfect.
Now with S-0ff, locked or unlocked doesn't matter regarding any roms or radios you may install and No warning flags.
Dont be intimidated by the wire procedure for s-0ff, just read it so many times beforehand that you effen KNOW it.
Enjoy: my Zound is so fast cool and perfect now that ive customized it to my useage pattern - hoping for
same experience for you!.
dashbored said:
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
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I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
I sold the Thunderbolt today and so now I've officially transitioned over to the Rezound! The phone is the stock gingerbread. I am dying to root it if only just so I can use titanium back up to transfer my crap over.
Thanks guys for the helpful replies! I've decided that right now, what I want is to be on the ICS OTA but with S-off & root so I can remove the bloat and optimize it. I'll stay with that for a bit to get a baseline before trying out different ROMs
What kind of wires did you guys use for the S-off procedure? Do I need to go out and buy something specific, or is there something around the typical household setting that I can grab? Obviously, not frying the phone is top priority. I've read through too much posts in the past 48 hours and I've come across a few that mentioned fried USB ports and even dead phones that had to be returned, which's made me a bit tentative. But I want S-off, so any pointers/comments you may have that would help about this would be much appreciated!
michaelbsheldon - question about your steps #1 & #2. Aren't these extraneous steps, as in you could just do the S-off wire with the stock Gingerbread? I am kinda confused as to the purpose of unlocking it first via HTC Dev and flashing a stockish ROM before the wire trick.
bloodymurderlive said:
I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
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Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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I'm going to give you a response this afternooon... I recommend that you don't do anything until I can clarify some things. brt...
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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It doesn't matter much if you do the OTA update before or after s-off. If it were me, I would do the OTA update first, especially if you are still locked....then unlock and do s-off using the proper ICS (for .5) jounuputbear. You can keep the stock hboot. NO NEED to unlock after s-off! AFter s-off, flash your Amonra recovery and then flash your SU...or just flash a rooted ROM. I haven't looked a lot, but I bet there is a stock, rooted, debloated ROM based on this OTA...just flash that and you'll be all set! ....
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Flash CleanROM?
I see very little point in flashing a ROM, if you're trying to get the official ICS, root, and S-OFF. I believe the purpose of flashing the ROM is that the ROM is already rooted for you. However, you will need to re-root after you install the OTA, so why not do the same process twice (flash superSU) rather than two different processes (flash ROM, flash superSU)? Seems to me that flashing CleanROM introduces more variables than necessary.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I wouldn't try to install the OTA unless you are running stock Gingerbread. Alternatively, you could try to find a ROM based on the official ICS OTA, but the OTA is still very new... I would just do it the "proper" way (install through Gingerbread) and let those ROMs cook a little more before playing with them.
S-OFF before or after OTA?
I recommend achieving S-OFF before installing the OTA. The S-OFF procedure may very well work with the OTA, but it is guaranteed to work with stock Gingerbread. There is an ICS option in hansoon2000's all-in-one toolkit, but this is based on a leak... Which again is probably very similar (if not identical) to the OTA. But the official OTA is very new, so... In my opinion, the surest thing is to achieve S-OFF before installing the OTA.
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
It is kind of a pain to go through the HTC unlock process twice, but hey... It's up to you how much risk you're willing to take with your brand new Rezound. I took the safe route. It took maybe a little more time, and I had to do some steps twice (achieving root for GB, then for ICS... unlocking before and after ICS...), but since you only have to go through this whole process once, I recommend playing it safe.
PINK Tampered flag?
I unlocked again after achieving S-OFF. I just double-checked, and I do not see any pink "Tampered" flag anywhere in my bootloader. If you follow my instructions below, this shouldn't happen.
My start-to-finish recommendation:
If the end result you're looking for is ICS OTA, rooted, S-OFF, then I recommend you follow these guides, in the following order:
1: Scotty's noob-friendly guide to root Rezound:
http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
One thing to note: Scotty gives instructions both for temporary and permanent flashing of custom recovery. In your case, I would recommend doing the temporary flash. This will allow you to flash superSU (achieve root) - which you need to do in order to achieve S-OFF - but it will also save you the hassle of later having to flash the stock recovery back - which you need to have in order to install the OTA.
2: My guide to achieve S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
3: My guide to install the OTA after rooting and S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
If you flashed a temporary recovery, then you can skip to step 7 in this guide to verify that you have stock recovery on your device. If you do, then you should be able to initiate the OTA from within Gingerbread, and successfully install. In other words: If you flashed a temporary recovery, you can follow steps 7 to the end in this guide.
These three guides together, in the order that I listed them, are the exact steps I followed to achieve the same thing that you say you're shooting for: official ICS, rooted, S-OFF. I think these steps are the least risky steps you can take to achieve these things.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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FYI: AFter you s-off you can not use fastboot flash commands unless you install the JB Hboot at the end of the S-off process (it should offer you the option) That is the custom hboot you refer to. All flashers are encouraged to check MD5 sum of the files they download before flashing (primarily RUU, hboot/radios..not so much roms). This will guard against corrupted files, making the process less risky.
If you have the ph98img.zip file version of amonra, it will flash just fine in the stock hboot. Hboot picks it up when it scans for ph98img.zip files and you select yes to install.
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
topgun1953 said:
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
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Exactly... I prefer that my Rezound is self-sufficient, without needing a PC to mess with it.
Good note on fast boot!
stock or rooted
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
flspanky said:
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
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What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Wow thank you for that informative reply! That really cleared up all of my questions. I now have two new, minor questions.
1. The audio clip for the S-off wire trick has two distinct tones. From watching the video, it looks like the different tones don't matter. Basically just hit tap and release as the metronome hits the first beat, and then again on the second beat. Correct?
2. This is probably a silly question, but what are the advantages of Amon Ra recovery over the stock?
I am too tired tonight, but I think I am going to give this a go this weekend...
michaelbsheldon said:
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
bloodymurderlive said:
What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
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Thanks. I was installing the ICS Global root and ROM and the instructions said to wipe all, and I was not sure how many areas under the wiping options I should perform.
Quick update - I've rooted my Rezound. Have not done the S-off wire trick yet. Still on stock GB.
Question - none of the wifi tether app seems to be working! Open garden was working perfectly for me with my old rooted Thunderbolt. A quick search seems to show that Rezound has issues with wifi tethering?! This was one of the main motivations behind rooting, so I am a feeling a bit underwhelmed right now with my new Rezound...
Newest wifi tether works fine...even has Rezound settings. Since you are still on GB search for sirgatez mod. Worked great for me when I was still on GB.
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I'm trying to temp root my phone so that i can do a backup with titanium backup before I permanently root my phone with HTCDev. How can I temp root my phone. All the methods i am seeing seem to be old and dont work with my hboot and software version. Here are my specs.
HTC EVO 3D Sprint CDMA
HBOOT - 1.58
Software Version - 2.89.651.2 71ORD
What is my best option.
Thanks,
TMPRO
tmpro said:
I'm trying to temp root my phone so that i can do a backup with titanium backup before I permanently root my phone with HTCDev. How can I temp root my phone. All the methods i am seeing seem to be old and dont work with my hboot and software version. Here are my specs.
HTC EVO 3D Sprint CDMA
HBOOT - 1.58
Software Version - 2.89.651.2 71ORD
What is my best option.
Thanks,
TMPRO
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You can try this if you haven't already, but it was written for GB not ICS, and it sounds a little "iffy" to me.
Might want to consider MyBackup (Pro) which doesn't require root for the standard backup.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
You can try this if you haven't already, but it was written for GB not ICS, and it sounds a little "iffy" to me.
Might want to consider MyBackup (Pro) which doesn't require root for the standard backup.
ramjet73
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Thanks for the reply. I have already tried that but to no avail. I'll give My Backup Pro another try. Ive used it before and there was something that it did kinda funky and i cant remember what it did.
After temp root any suggestions on how to permanent root my phone with my specs. I checked out HTCDev but it seems kinda iffy that it would work with my specs. My main reasons to be rooted is so i can install apps for rooted devices (ie. titanium backup, screen capture ect.) and maybe down the road get into messing around with custom ROM's. I would appreciate any advice and step by step procedure on how to do this since I am new to all this stuff.
Thanks,
HTC dev works on hboot 1.58 as does the wire trick. After temp rooting to backup:
1. Unlock with HTC dev.
2. push a custom recovery
3. Install super user to give you root
4. (optional for what you want) Do wire trick to get s-off.
A word of warning: my phone just bootlooped when I temp rooted. Not a big deal, but I lost my data.
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coal686 said:
HTC dev works on hboot 1.58 as does the wire trick. After temp rooting to backup:
1. Unlock with HTC dev.
2. push a custom recovery
3. Install super user to give you root
4. (optional for what you want) Do wire trick to get s-off.
A word of warning: my phone just bootlooped when I temp rooted. Not a big deal, but I lost my data.
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Ok i just have a few questions.
First
What/Where is a good "custom recovery" and is this for?
Second
How do i install super user?
Third
Where can I get good instructions on how to complete step 4? And what does "s-off" allow me to do?
What does bootlooped mean?
Sorry for all the questions i just want to be sure i know whats going on before i get into this and possibly mess my phone up. I prefer videos tutorials so if you have any good suggestions that would be great. Tutorials that work with my phones specs.
Thanks,
I need some advice, I have two problems I need to deal with on my new LTE phone.
First: I received my EvoLTE two days ago and immediately Rooted using HTCDev and the TWRP recovery. I wrongly believed this would give me S-Off and obviously I was wrong about that. So...I need to learn how to get S-Off after Rooting. From reading on the forum it seems I have to do the S-Off procedure and then go through the Rooting process again.
Question: I'm Rooted presently, can I follow the S-Off procedure while Rooted which will un-Root me apparently, then once again do the Rooting steps? I don't know if I have to un-Root first, then do the S-Off steps, then Root again, or if I can just do S-Off which will un-Root me then Root again.
I haven't found a clear answer yet and appreciate any and all help.
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Question: I've had my LTE for 2 days now, I've rooted and added apps that I had on my OG Evo but have not installed a custom ROM yet. From the beginning my phone turns it's sound profile to "Silent" automatically without my input. I can go to the Sound Profile and it will be turned to "Silent", I press on the "Normal" button and Normal shows up under "Sound". Within a couple of minutes the Sound profile reverts to "Silent". It's more than annoying to say the least. I need to fix this as I need "Sound" with the phone.
I do have Extreme Call Blocker installed and have it set to "1st Ring Mute", I wonder if that could be affecting the phone and making it go into the Silent setting? On my OG Evo I used Extreme Call blocker for over 2 years and it didn't affect anything. Just throwing this out there in case anyone has ideas.
I can't find any other Settings that would affect the Sound or that would make the phone revert to "Silent". I need some help on this one guys.
I appreciate it,
Thanks,
DC
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DCoop said:
I need some advice, I have two problems I need to deal with on my new LTE phone.
First: I received my EvoLTE two days ago and immediately Rooted using HTCDev and the TWRP recovery. I wrongly believed this would give me S-Off and obviously I was wrong about that. So...I need to learn how to get S-Off after Rooting. From reading on the forum it seems I have to do the S-Off procedure and then go through the Rooting process again.
Question: I'm Rooted presently, can I follow the S-Off procedure while Rooted which will un-Root me apparently, then once again do the Rooting steps? I don't know if I have to un-Root first, then do the S-Off steps, then Root again, or if I can just do S-Off which will un-Root me then Root again.
I haven't found a clear answer yet and appreciate any and all help.
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As far as I'm aware, it shouldn't matter if you're rooted or not. If you do the dirty racun method (not what I did), you should be ok. There are a couple of stickies in the HTC EVO 4G LTE Original Android Development forum that you wanna check out. I used the method under [HBOOT 1.19/1.15 S-OFF] Downgrade HBOOT 1.19 and lower on HTC EVO 4G LTE method, and it worked perfectly. I didn't even do it right the first time I tried it (tried to skip steps!!), and I was still able to go back and follow the steps to correct my screw up. I prefer the one where I do all the steps, because I can account for where something might go wrong.
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DCoop said:
Question: I've had my LTE for 2 days now, I've rooted and added apps that I had on my OG Evo but have not installed a custom ROM yet. From the beginning my phone turns it's sound profile to "Silent" automatically without my input. I can go to the Sound Profile and it will be turned to "Silent", I press on the "Normal" button and Normal shows up under "Sound". Within a couple of minutes the Sound profile reverts to "Silent". It's more than annoying to say the least. I need to fix this as I need "Sound" with the phone.
I do have Extreme Call Blocker installed and have it set to "1st Ring Mute", I wonder if that could be affecting the phone and making it go into the Silent setting? On my OG Evo I used Extreme Call blocker for over 2 years and it didn't affect anything. Just throwing this out there in case anyone has ideas.
I can't find any other Settings that would affect the Sound or that would make the phone revert to "Silent". I need some help on this one guys.
I appreciate it,
Thanks,
DC
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Turn off your profiles? I've been using CM10, and that's what I'd recommend. I don't know for sure, but I'd figure it was an issue either with the ROM, or a setting that you didn't think of. I don't really use profiles myself, so I don't know what would be causing that. See if it follows you into another ROM.
running dirty racun method shouldn't unroot u. are u actually rooted or just bootloader unlocked? if you are actually rooted u have super user or supersu app on your phone. if u are just bootloader unlocked and have twpr installed you are not fully rooted. u have to relock the bootloader, then run dirty racun, then u can just flash a rooted rom. that is basically what i did.
i unlocked bootloader, installed twrp, relocked, ran dirty racun for s-off, then unlocked again, then flashed meanrom and i was rooted with full access and s-off.
whether i needed to go through the unlock and lock to begin with i don't know.
sand1303 said:
running dirty racun method shouldn't unroot u. are u actually rooted or just bootloader unlocked? if you are actually rooted u have super user or supersu app on your phone. if u are just bootloader unlocked and have twpr installed you are not fully rooted. u have to relock the bootloader, then run dirty racun, then u can just flash a rooted rom. that is basically what i did.
i unlocked bootloader, installed twrp, relocked, ran dirty racun for s-off, then unlocked again, then flashed meanrom and i was rooted with full access and s-off.
whether i needed to go through the unlock and lock to begin with i don't know.
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Thanks to both of you for your suggestions. I successfully used DirtyRacun this morning after first having my phone bricked and my 16g sd corrupted and ruined last night. The guys with DirtyRacun were great and walked me through an Ubuntu procedure that brought the LTE back to life. This morning I was successful in getting S-Off using DR. (what a relief!)
I've got to reinstall TWRP and will be reading on the forum about how to do that. I did the one procedure where you get it unlocked and TWRP installed with S-ON before backtracking and doing DirtyRacun's S-Off bit of magic. "Bricking" my phone last night and running the fix erased TWRP so I have to install it again.
thanks,
DC
Easiest way to get twrp is,
Play store... Goo Manager,
In Goo Manager press menu button and select 'install openrecoveryscript'...
That installs current version of twrp
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KaptainRandom said:
Easiest way to get twrp is,
Play store... Goo Manager,
In Goo Manager press menu button and select 'install openrecoveryscript'...
That installs current version of twrp
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I think that is what I did. Piece of cake
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