Well the title says it all, I was charging my phone and was playing prototype in the computer (unrelevant data ) but it was like 97% of battery, the screen its always on (since i plug it when it has 30%), and i say ok ok 3% more to go, and start to play again , later when i get a message of a friend, take the cellphone and the battery was at 84% so I think it reaches 100% and then (it was still obviusly plugged, and the screen never turns off) it starts to discharge so quickly... somebody are gettin this type of behavior too??? its like the fifth time that happen to me.... or at least i notice that....looks like its a random behavior
I have ICS 4.0.4 but when i have GB happen that too
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Well the title says it all, I was charging my phone and was playing prototype in the computer (unrelevant data ) but it was like 97% of battery, the screen its always on (since i plug it when it has 30%), and i say ok ok 3% more to go, and start to play again , later when i get a message of a friend, take the cellphone and the battery was at 84% so I think it reaches 100% and then (it was still obviusly plugged, and the screen never turns off) it starts to discharge so quickly... somebody are gettin this type of behavior too??? its like the fifth time that happen to me.... or at least i notice that....looks like its a random behavior
I have ICS 4.0.4 but when i have GB happen that too
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jacker60 said:
Well the title says it all, I was charging my phone and was playing prototype in the computer (unrelevant data ) but it was like 97% of battery, the screen its always on (since i plug it when it has 30%), and i say ok ok 3% more to go, and start to play again , later when i get a message of a friend, take the cellphone and the battery was at 84% so I think it reaches 100% and then (it was still obviusly plugged, and the screen never turns off) it starts to discharge so quickly... somebody are gettin this type of behavior too??? its like the fifth time that happen to me.... or at least i notice that....looks like its a random behavior
I have ICS 4.0.4 but when i have GB happen that too
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You might be better off asking in here aswell considering that whole thread is about Xperia S battery life.
I have exactly the same problem pretty much all the time. Most of the time I can kind of understand it because I'm a really heavy user of my phone and will normally be playing music, while texting away, being on here and playing a game such as Modern Combat 3 all at the same time.
But even if I'm only using XDA for example, the battery will still start going down while I'm charging. It'll go from full to approx 80% and stay around that mark.
This is one of the many reasons I'm really tempted to get rid of this phone and get the SGS2 instead #_-
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Unfourtanely I'm not a root user , I have locked bootloader, and right now I know I can get root, but have to go back to GB and right now I feel to lazy to reinstall all my applications and loose my progres on wheres my water :silly:, besides i think when I upgraded to ICS wipe everything... and before that I used to have the problem
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You might be better off asking in here aswell considering that whole thread is about Xperia S battery life.
I have exactly the same problem pretty much all the time. Most of the time I can kind of understand it because I'm a really heavy user of my phone and will normally be playing music, while texting away, being on here and playing a game such as Modern Combat 3 all at the same time.
But even if I'm only using XDA for example, the battery will still start going down while I'm charging. It'll go from full to approx 80% and stay around that mark.
This is one of the many reasons I'm really tempted to get rid of this phone and get the SGS2 instead #_-
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, well I try to search if someone say already something about that, but in a quick view dont found anything , as I understand you were playing and doing other stuff while you were charging the phone, well that happens to me too, it starts to discharge... even if its plugged, specially with games like "Shadowgun" (a very good game BTW ), doing other stuff I dont have this problem, the only thing its that the charge only take more time...
I think that if you only use XDA app dont happen that, only the charge will be too slow... anyway there is a problem there... but the thing its that im not doing anything and it takes charge to 100% and then starts to discharge doing nothing! did that happen to you?
My sister have a Galaxy SII, its pretty good too, the only thing is that the UI of Samsung its so ugly , but the good thing is that there are more dev's and more ROM's to change in the SII that in XPS
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Yeah even if I'm just using XDA it takes a lot longer to charge than it should do and I know for a fact there's not a problem with my charger because it charges my brother's S2 brilliantly.
And yes mine has the same problem with draining when doing nothing. Battery drain while idle has always been a hot talking point since this phone was released really and it doesn't seem to have gotten too much better than it was to start with.
Not gonna lie though, if I knew about this phones problems when I got it, I would've probably gone for the S2 instead.
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why on earth u keep the screen on while charging? it's the biggest drainer. try using battery monitor widget to see the current that coming or going to ur phone.
when the screen on and data on (3G only) my SXS discharge at 250-760 mA if u have 0.75 A charger or 0.85 A charger it's over the discharging current, so it'll discharge. and dont forget that once the phone get above 90% it'll lower it's current input. so with the screen on and ur phone's above 90% u'll discharge faster.
when u in 84% u'll get the current again only when u re-plugged the charger.
IMO, u better turn the screen off, data off while charging. i use EP850 charger (rate 1.5A), with data off i got charging current bout 1200 mA and got lower to 500 mA when hit 90% (it only take bout 1 hour from below 10% battery, did SGS2 can do this ). i rarely charge to 100%.
KidCarter93 said:
Yeah even if I'm just using XDA it takes a lot longer to charge than it should do and I know for a fact there's not a problem with my charger because it charges my brother's S2 brilliantly.
And yes mine has the same problem with draining when doing nothing. Battery drain while idle has always been a hot talking point since this phone was released really and it doesn't seem to have gotten too much better than it was to start with.
Not gonna lie though, if I knew about this phones problems when I got it, I would've probably gone for the S2 instead.
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Well, I think that I dont search enough, dont see anybody complainign about this, well yes indeed there is a problem with that, but uhm, well i preffer XPS over SII
m1st3r1 said:
why on earth u keep the screen on while charging? it's the biggest drainer. try using battery monitor widget to see the current that coming or going to ur phone.
when the screen on and data on (3G only) my SXS discharge at 250-760 mA if u have 0.75 A charger or 0.85 A charger it's over the discharging current, so it'll discharge. and dont forget that once the phone get above 90% it'll lower it's current input. so with the screen on and ur phone's above 90% u'll discharge faster.
when u in 84% u'll get the current again only when u re-plugged the charger.
IMO, u better turn the screen off, data off while charging. i use EP850 charger (rate 1.5A), with data off i got charging current bout 1200 mA and got lower to 500 mA when hit 90% (it only take bout 1 hour from below 10% battery, did SGS2 can do this ). i rarely charge to 100%.
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LOL, well a old practice since I have android, always leave the screen on , i dont know I like to see the screen on while I'm charging, can see the hour and the notificactions I have without even touch it , never had a problem, but I see that I have to change that habit I dont want to know how many time will take charge it via USB, like 5 hours I think
Well thanks for helping me with this doubt :highfive:
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I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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What I'd sudjest is updating your phone through seus or PC companion or if your an American at & t user update to a newer firmware through the flash tool (you can find I link to it through my signiture) or if you can't update try and use the repair option through seus or PC compainion.
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Thanks for your reply.
I did that yesterday. I repaired the firmware and reloaded all the application one by one from scratch. The only thing I restored is contacts so that I could eliminate all the other factors which can cause this issue.
My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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Thanks once again for the reply.
I tired that too every time I try to charge the phone. Still it refuses to complete the charging.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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My other suggestion would be to install xrecovery and wipe your battery stats I guess. You can find a link to xrecovery through the link in my sig
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+1 it helped me off this problem
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What about off line charging ie; turning the phone off and doing that way?
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Good idea. I will try that as well as try to do a clean wipe and just try to charge with nothing loaded in. That will give a better idea where the problem is.
Thanks for the great tip, I will update you tomorrow.
Had that happen before, I had to remove sim card and let it drain out slowly for a week, then charge. Problem solved
I think I had similar problem, except that my processor went on full load when its almost fully charged causing it to drain the battery instead. Still lookin for answer to that, will wiping battery stats help?
I reset my phone to factory and did a re-flashing again using SEUS and I tried it charging immediately without loading any application (only loaded Battery Monitor Widget from Market to see the battery temperature and mA units drawn) and wow, it charged like a normal X10. So I guess it has something to do with whatever I loaded or modded it with.
I'm trying to find it out. Later tonight I will try to load all the application one-by-one and try again to charge to see whether I can isolate it.
During this process, I did takeout my SIM card for a period of 1 hour or so, so not sure whether that did the trick (If that's the case, thanks to gogogu)
In the meantime, I have a strong feeling it would be due to the flashtool and new recovery, but again there isn't any proof. I suspect this because this is the new thing I did compared to my old phone.
Any thoughts are welcome.
Monitor the CPU usage as well
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Monitor the CPU usage as well
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I don't have issues with processor. It works at full throttle when it supposed to work and then goes back to normal.
Hrmmm alright, but if you ever had the draining issue while charging and the battery temp rises up again. Check the CPU usage just incase
After yesterday's event, seems like stable (I did face the same issue once). Not sure which cured it and currently monitoring...
EDIT: Back to square one. The issue started again and the battery refues to fully charge! I'm going mad
Finally given up, sent for service and came back after 5 days of repair.
Repair Notes: No problem found !!!
But today morning I tried to charge and it's the same issue . Makes me go mad. Really, I don't know what to do!
Please help me friends .......
I too have exactly the same problem with my x10i.....
tried everything like rooting, using stock & custom ROMs, etc... still problem persist ...
while charging , power goes from 900mA to 200mA or lower, & doesn't reach 100% full...
i use current widget from market to read the power values ....
please help me friends .... to resolve my problem ...
Thanks a lot...
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I got an replacement due to my phone beyond repair.
I'm running original stock firmware, of-course rooted. Since the replacement I'm trying to get my phone to full charge but it doesn't and also I notice that the charging is quite slow.
I installed "Battery Monitor Widget" to see how much power it is drawing and found that AC power draws only about 350+mA and sometimes it is as low as 8mA. (Some times it draws about 750+mA). I notice that the temperature also reaches somewhere about 45 to 48 degree.
Once it reaches about 90% or so, it starts to drain battery instead of charing it.
I find it quite abnormal. Anyone with this kind of problem and found an solution?
Thanks in advance for the replies and suggestions.
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What program do you use to check your battery temperature. I rememeber there was one that wass bettery draining. The same is also possible with battery level monitor
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Use this tool forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415600
Please read this. There is a lot of batt info on xda just search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
I realize that much of this is common knowledge on XDA. Still, every day I see people post about how their phone "loses" 10% as soon as it comes off the charger. I also have friends who can't understand why their battery drains so quickly. Trying to explain this to people without hard numbers is often met with doubt, so I figured that I'd actually plot it out with real data.
So it's not a piece that is optimized for this audience, but I hope that you find it interesting.
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Your Smartphone is Lying to You
(and it's not such a bad thing)
Climbing out of bed, about to start your day, you unplug your new smartphone from its wall charger and quickly check your email. You've left it plugged in overnight, and the battery gauge shows 100%. After a quick shower, you remember that you forgot to send your client a file last night. You pick up your phone again, but the battery gauge now reads 90%. A 10% drop in 10 minutes? The phone must be defective, right?
A common complaint about today's smartphones is their short battery life compared to older cell phones. Years ago, if you accidentally left your charger at home, your phone could still make it through a weeklong vacation with life to spare (I did it more than once). With the newest phones on the market, you might be lucky enough to make it through a weekend.
And why should we expect anything else? Phones used to have a very short list of features: make and receive phone calls. Today we use them for email, web surfing, GPS navigation, photos, video, games, and a host of other tasks. They used to sport tiny displays, while we now have giant touch screens with bright and vibrant colors. All of these features come at a cost: large energy requirements.
Interestingly enough, improvements in battery management technology have compounded the average user's perception of this problem. Older phones were rather inelegant in their charging behavior; usually filling the battery to capacity and then switching to a trickle current to maintain the highest charge possible. This offered the highest usage time in the short-term, but was damaging the battery over the course of ownership. As explained at Battery University, "The time at which the battery stays at [maximum charge] should be as short as possible. Prolonged high voltage promotes corrosion, especially at elevated temperatures."[1]
This is why many new phones will "lose" up to 10% within a few minutes of coming off the charger. The reality is that the battery was only at 100% capacity for a brief moment, after which the battery management system allowed it to slowly dip down to around 90%. Leaving the phone plugged in overnight does not make a difference: the phone only uses the wall current to maintain a partial charge state.
To monitor this, I installed CurrentWidget on my HTC ADR6300 (Droid Incredible), an app that can log how much electric current is being drawn from the battery or received from the charger. Setting it to record log entries every 10 seconds, I have collected a few days worth of data. While many variables are involved (phone hardware, ROM, kernel, etc) and no two devices will perform exactly the same, the trends that I will describe are becoming more common in new phones. This is not just isolated to a single platform or a single manufacturer.
Chart 1 shows system reported battery levels over the course of one night, with the phone plugged in to a charger. Notice that as the battery level approaches 100%, the charging current gradually decreases. After a full charge is reached, wall current is cut completely, with the phone switching back to the battery for all of its power. It isn't until about two hours later that you can see the phone starts receiving wall current again, and even then it is only in brief bursts.
The steep drop in reported battery seen past the 6.5 hour mark shows the phone being unplugged. While the current draw does increase at this point (since the phone is being used), it still cannot account for the reported 6% depletion in 3 minutes. It should also be obvious that maintaining a 100% charge state is impossible given the long spans in which the phone is only operating on battery power.
Using the data from CurrentWidget, however, it is quite easy to project the actual battery state. Starting with the assumption that the first battery percentage reading is accurate, each subsequent point is calculated based on mA draw and time. Chart 2 includes this projection.
Now we can see that the 6% drop after unplugging is simply the battery gauge catching up with reality.
The phone manufacturers essentially have three choices:
1. Use older charging styles which actually maintain a full battery, thereby decreasing its eventual life
2. Use new charging methods and have an accurate battery gauge
3. Use new charging methods and have the inaccurate battery gauge
Option one has clearly fallen out of favor as it prematurely wears devices. Option two, while being honest, would most likely be met with many complaints. After all, how many people want to see their phone draining down to 90% while it is still plugged in? Option three therefore offers an odd compromise. Maybe phone companies think that users will be less likely to worry about a quick drop off the charger than they will worry about a "defective" charger that doesn't keep their phone at 100% while plugged in.
Bump It. Or Should You?
One technique that has gained popularity in the user community is "bump charging." To bump charge a device, turn it off completely, and plug it into a charger. Wait until the indicator light shows a full charge (on the ADR6300, for example, the charging LED changes from amber to green) but do not yet turn the device back on. Instead, disconnect and immediately reconnect the power cord. The device will now accept more charge before saying it is full. This disconnect/reconnect process can be repeated multiple times, each time squeezing just a little bit more into the battery. Does it work?
The following chart plots battery depletion after the device has received a hefty bump charge (6 cycles) and then turned on to use battery power. Note that the system does not show the battery dropping from 100% until well over an hour of unplugged use, at which point it starts to steadily decline. Again, however, it should be obvious that the battery gauge is not syncing up with reality. How could the rate of depletion be increasing over the first 5 hours while the rate of current draw is relatively steady? And why does the projected battery line separate from the reported levels, but then exactly mirror the later rises and falls?
The answer, of course, is that bump charging definitely works. Rather than anchoring our projected values to the first data point of 100%, what happens if we anchor against a later point in the plot?
Aligning the data suggests that a heavy bump charge increases initial capacity by approximately 15%. Note that the only other time that the lines separate in this graph was once again when the phone was put on the charger and topped up to 100%. Just as with the first set of graphs, the phone kept reporting 100% until it was unplugged, dropped rapidly, and again caught up with our projections.
So what does it all mean?
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity. If you are a "power user" who will buy a new battery a few months from now anyway, this presumably isn't a concern. If you are an average consumer who uses a device for a few years, I would recommend that you stay away from bump charging. The bottom line is that you don't really "need" to do it unless you are actually depleting your battery to 0% on a regular basis.
If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it. Plug it in when you're at home. Plug it in when you're at your desk. As explained by Battery University, "Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory."[2]
Beyond that, the best advice I can offer is to stop paying such close attention to your battery gauge and to just use your phone. Charge it whenever you can, and then stop obsessing over the exact numbers. If you really need more usage time, buy an extended-capacity battery and use it normally.
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hi,
i have SE x10i and i downloaded some apps in the market and my phone suddenly restarts... and i flash it on SE PC companion and its now ok
the problem is that when ever i charge the phone the battery heats up and then my phone also heats up and shuts down... i get the battery out for some few minutes to cool down and then it gets ok.. but because i want to charge the battery but still same problem..
what should i do??
regards,
red
Are you heavily using the phone (gaming, watching videos, streaming, surfing the net) while charging?
Install setcpu and use a temperature trigger of 50C (or what you want) to limit the cpu.
Mine is set for 768Mhz.
And if you are using it while its charging try not to cup the back of the phone, you trap the heat.
If it keeps shutdown when you charge, you should bring it to SE service. Maybe this is hardware problems.
Nucleus55 said:
hi,
i have SE x10i and i downloaded some apps in the market and my phone suddenly restarts... and i flash it on SE PC companion and its now ok
the problem is that when ever i charge the phone the battery heats up and then my phone also heats up and shuts down... i get the battery out for some few minutes to cool down and then it gets ok.. but because i want to charge the battery but still same problem..
what should i do??
regards,
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switch from 3G to 2G
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switch from 3G to 2G
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i already did that sir..
i also update the rom to GB but still the problem is the same..
when the cp heats up its restart automatically..
@all
where can i DL such apps that can normalize the cpu's temperature..
i cant charge normally because as what i have said
it heats up and shutsdown thee phone..
Aw man that sucks, keep in mind your battery life will get worse if its heated too much.
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yeah really really sucks.. i cant normally charge with my charger
coz when the temperature rises it will stop charging ang the phone restarts or automatically off...
thats why i need your opinions! please..
i dont think this is a hardware problem because
this is brand new... and i dont use it agressively...
Nucleus55 said:
i dont think this is a hardware problem because
this is brand new... and i dont use it agressively...
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Not all brand new devices are in perfect shape. There's always a factory defective one..
Try consulting your problem at any service center of S.E. or ask for a replacement. As you said its a brand new device it has warranty.
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Hi Nucleus55,
Although i'm relatively new to xda, i'm also relatively "old" to h/w related problems, so here's is one piece of advise if you like.
As stated also from other member's previously "-- X10B --", if the phone's temp rises to a degree where it auto-reboots and stops charging, and if this occurs every single time, then you should probably replace it from your nearest SE shop. Especially if it is new and under warranty. As stated from "-- X10B --" there is always the possibility of a h/w error or in construction and/or design flaw in that specific model. You never know.
Personally, i got this "batterylife" widget (from market) which shows battery status and temp, and for me, when i charge my phone, it has never gone above 40 degrees Celsius while idle (charging only) and up to (MAX) 48 while under heavy stress during charging, like games, videos, etc.
I have never seen it gone to 50 degrees.
You could also do as previously stated by "kindred7", that is, install an application and set the max degree to 50 degrees, although i strongly recommend (this is always my personal opinion), when it comes to ALL electronics, to always keep them as cool as possible. If this is not possible, because you tend to stress it all the time either from games or videos, then you could find a better cooling solution, like maybe removing its cover while charging.
I have just tried it myself about a half an hour ago to see if there is any change in temp, and i have noticed that in my work space where the ambient temp is around 25 degrees, the phone while charging and uncovered, was stable at 38 degrees Celsius.
Also, if you a lot of functions ON like Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth, then it is obvious that the phone temp will rise to its max. If so, then try to disable any things you don't need, not only while charging but always.
That's all that i can think of right now
this has happened to me after i updated my x10i to 2.3.3 .. the battery life has just got worse and sometimes while heavy use the battery temp rises very much.
Any Solution will be helpful.
Nucleus55 said:
hi,
i have SE x10i and i downloaded some apps in the market and my phone suddenly restarts... and i flash it on SE PC companion and its now ok
the problem is that when ever i charge the phone the battery heats up and then my phone also heats up and shuts down... i get the battery out for some few minutes to cool down and then it gets ok.. but because i want to charge the battery but still same problem..
what should i do??
regards,
red
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From the symptoms you've listed I'm pretty sure you need a new battery due to the heat exposure.
When you are charging your phone make sure you have your screen off. I know this sounds stupid but I found it stopped my phone from overheating while charging
my battery is heating aswell
i upgraded and did not use my phone for 5 hrs ish and it was just on my table and then i smell smoke frome my phone and it was like my battery was a bbq
Aphex33 said:
From the symptoms you've listed I'm pretty sure you need a new battery due to the heat exposure.
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yes i think this is the problem that i forgot.
i expose it to sunlight while we are drinking some beer with friends outside of our house . and
because i have some sms i grab my phone and damn it was so hot.
so i put my phone inside the house and after that it started to resart whenever the temp rises, or even i use a short period of time...
06bgoggin said:
When you are charging your phone make sure you have your screen off. I know this sounds stupid but I found it stopped my phone from overheating while charging
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sir,
even when i shut down my phone and try to charge
when my phone starts to heat up
and suddenly it stops from charging
and the phone is very hot as well as the battery
ill try to replace battery, if still the same
maybe i will forcely go to the store that i bought my phone.
I have the same problem
maybe SE company should read all the negative feedbacks on there Phones...
and make some upgrades of this ****.
I like my Android Touchpad (Cyanogenmod 9 Alpha 0 Build) very much and i love every minute I play with it. But the real deal breaker is that the battery is dying like anything and within 2 hours all the juice is dried up. I tried every possible method (Battery calibration,Charging and discharging) but nothing worked out. I dont want to leave android and go back to web os someone please help me on this
vijayansn said:
I like my Android Touchpad (Cyanogenmod 9 Alpha 0 Build) very much and i love every minute I play with it. But the real deal breaker is that the battery is dying like anything and within 2 hours all the juice is dried up. I tried every possible method (Battery calibration,Charging and discharging) but nothing worked out. I dont want to leave android and go back to web os someone please help me on this
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Wow thats insanely fast. Head over to Rootzwiki thread, where the original post Dalingrin made is, or join IRC:
#cyanogenmod-touchpad
Devs hang out at those places
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vijayansn said:
I like my Android Touchpad (Cyanogenmod 9 Alpha 0 Build) very much and i love every minute I play with it. But the real deal breaker is that the battery is dying like anything and within 2 hours all the juice is dried up. I tried every possible method (Battery calibration,Charging and discharging) but nothing worked out. I dont want to leave android and go back to web os someone please help me on this
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What is your charging practice exactly?
I would normally charge to 100% and wait till it goes down to 0...at first it took around 3 hours for full charge but now its almost taking 5 hours go get a full charge
I would normally charge to 100% and wait till it goes down to 0...at first it took around 3 hours for full charge but now its almost taking 5 hours go get a full charge
vijayansn said:
I would normally charge to 100% and wait till it goes down to 0...at first it took around 3 hours for full charge but now its almost taking 5 hours go get a full charge
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You know there has been a charge fix released like half a day after alpha 0 was released to the public. In fact the newest build is now 0.5 alpha, which makes your issue a problem of not updating. Seriously though, update to the newest build.
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vijayansn said:
I would normally charge to 100% and wait till it goes down to 0...at first it took around 3 hours for full charge but now its almost taking 5 hours go get a full charge
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I am not surprised.
NEVER let it get to zero! You will ruin the battery.
Keep it on charge as much as you can.
You may already have done damage.
Oh my bad Yes i did install the charger fix since i was getting UI error....let me see how it goes for the future charges..i will keep it in charge hereafter before reaching 0%...
pa49 said:
I am not surprised.
NEVER let it get to zero! You will ruin the battery.
Keep it on charge as much as you can.
You may already have done damage.
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Are you serious? These batteries degrade with each charge. Constantly charging is a bad idea.
But the battery degrades when left on zero. When I was on xron I left my touchpad dead a lot. Now I can definitely feel it not lasting as long anymore. Although it could be cm9
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Thats odd... I can go days with my TP on one charge... I don't use it during the day (at work), but it's on, screen off. I used it alot at night and read before I go to bed, but just turn the screen off. I also bought setcpu and have some profile set up so when I don't need the computing power I underclock it and when I need it I overclock it. Do the same with my phone and it really extends battery life.
I'm seeing really good battery life with A 0.5. I saw good battery life with A 0 too, and evervolv. Like 6-8 hours of screen on actual browsing use. I see almost no battery drain with the screen off. I can easily go a few days between charges. I don't know the charge time because I have a Touchstone. So, when it drops to less than 50% I leave it on the touchstone overnight. I use the app dock nothingness so that it won't wake up and keep the screen on.
Check you don't have any apps preventing sleep. BetterBatteryStats should identify any apps causing a wake lock. CPUspy will also help you verify the CPU is entering deep sleep when you turn off the screen. The very first build had a wake lock that wasn't caused by any app, but the charge fix fixed it. I noticed on the very first build the light on the button of mine was always on, even with screen off.
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bp_ said:
Are you serious? These batteries degrade with each charge. Constantly charging is a bad idea.
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I'm afraid you're incorrect.
Allowing a lithium battery to repeatedly go low will cause serious damage and pull down usable life and capacity.
Constantly charging to Max and the monitoring circuits will take what's needed and no more so you are only putting back what's used.
It's not charging any more than you use so there is no added degrade.
Plus if you have the device on charge as much as possible then the cells attain their max capacity.
About 3hrs with CM9, from full charge. Wifi and display pull all the juice.
I would reflash and start from scratch. Sounds like a process going rogue, I get 12 hrs or so on a full charge reading and browsing.
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dan-fish said:
But the battery degrades when left on zero. When I was on xron I left my touchpad dead a lot. Now I can definitely feel it not lasting as long anymore. Although it could be cm9
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I have no idea how to explain your situation but I know my battery life is better with CM9 than it was with CM7 - and that wasn't bad to start with.
for me battery still working good, is holding all day whit the wifi, no using hard way and in sleep mode i can be 2 days whitout chargin, i just use it to browse some webs
Hi, I got a very annoying problem.
Since a few weeks ago, flashed a ROM and when I've tried to use the phone, it keeps turning off randomly, sometimes after a few minutes, sometimes after hours. So, I tried to take it back to the clean original 2.3.3 ROM, but it keeps happening. ¿Any idea? ¿Any solution? Please, help me.
Oh, something else, it only happens when the phone's used with the battery, when it's attached to my laptop and used as modem, the problem doesn't appear.
I had the same problem, it said android system shutting down. I just bought new battery and it works.
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I think, it's the most logical option, but I was trying to get some feedback first. Thanks.
Maybe calibrating the battery.
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go back to stock and see if it helps! try to troubleshoot the problem! Also, don't install any apps!
There are instructions on how to calibrate your battery in the first post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489214&highlight=calibrate+battery
If the problem is the battery, you might find that after calibration that the battery drains faster than expected, and still shuts down, only this time it warns you that it's gonna shut down. This would then be the true battery drain. If that is the case, you might just need to buy a new one anaway.
Otherwise, I don't know what else could be causing those symptoms. (Other than an electrical fault, from accumulated damp or something)
kZard said:
There are instructions on how to calibrate your battery in the first post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489214&highlight=calibrate+battery
If the problem is the battery, you might find that after calibration that the battery drains faster than expected, and still shuts down, only this time it warns you that it's gonna shut down. This would then be the true battery drain. If that is the case, you might just need to buy a new one anaway.
Otherwise, I don't know what else could be causing those symptoms. (Other than an electrical fault, from accumulated damp or something)
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thanks so much..............
What happens it's that the phone shuts down suddenly, the message appears for a seconds and it's off. Wait for a few seconds, try to turning on again and sometimes works for some minutes, and sometimes it's keeping turning off, and off, and off. But, the battery level seems to be correct, I mean, when I turn on the phone after one of these sudden shutdowns, only drains the logical ammount of battery for starting use the phone.
I think... if the problem never appears when it's attached to the laptop and charging constantly, and magically appears when I used the phone with the battery, it's probably just a battery issue, right?
I have a similar problem to this, my phone randomly shuts down after showing the 'Android System shutting down' message but sometimes loses ALOT of battery. Last night it went from 78% to 8% after shutting down :/ I noticed it happened more often when im playing games or taking a video, things that take up more battery. When i keep it plugged in it keeps awake so the problem stops but i cant keep it in all day every day. I dont really want to buy a new battery until i really really have to, but I have had the phone and battery since the x10 first came out about 2 years ago, so anyone any other ideas? Thanks
danielk0302 said:
I have a similar problem to this, my phone randomly shuts down after showing the 'Android System shutting down' message but sometimes loses ALOT of battery. Last night it went from 78% to 8% after shutting down :/ I noticed it happened more often when im playing games or taking a video, things that take up more battery. When i keep it plugged in it keeps awake so the problem stops but i cant keep it in all day every day. I dont really want to buy a new battery until i really really have to, but I have had the phone and battery since the x10 first came out about 2 years ago, so anyone any other ideas? Thanks
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Try wiping battery stats then charge to 100% (it may help, not sure)
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laneyofdeath said:
Try wiping battery stats then charge to 100% (it may help, not sure)
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Yeah tried that but it didnt seem to work :/
could it be hardware problem like broke battery or bad connection on motherboard?
Could be pal are u within your warranty (sony (Ericsson) it has a 2 year global warranty but u need to ring ur network provider and ask them to put u through to se
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Yeah this happened to me before about 6 months ago, so i went to my provider (3) and they sent it away to Sony Ericsson and they sent me a whole new phone but I didnt want to do that again really, but i may have to. When im not using WiFi or 3G then it works fine, and when its plugged in to the charger it works so i guess its a case of not usuing the internet when im not near a charger
I have the same problem.
My X10 reboot random when using 3G (Wifi is still OK) and Gaming. Now i'm on Stock 2.3 and stock kernel and....wait. (Flash some ROM and change the new battery....but not solved )
Anyone help us !!! Plizzzzzzzzzzz
Maybe your solution
I had the same problem sometimes with original kernel after 1 year of using my phone.
Then i tried to install a new rom, and i was thinking the problem was solved. But it was not...
I finished by trying the X10S (v7) rom with DoomLord kernel (1113mhz) and this problem was solved...
I tried some kernels and this one was stable with a good battery life and no shutdown problem. With some other kernels i had this problem back.
So I think that kernel could be the problem.
Infortunately, with the rom X10S v8, Doomlord kernel cause issues with wifi (unable to get ip adress). So now i use kCernel-SE-stock-mod-v1 and no shutdown problem anymore.
*Maybe the solution is*
Try to change your kernel with one of thoose :
- kCernel here (in "2. kCernel-SE-stock-mod-v1")
- DoomLord (search fo x10_gb_DooMKernel-v06-1113_wifi.zip)
Note :
- With this two kernels, you'll have to download appropriate wifi patch and install it from SDcard via xRecovery
- don't try to install X10S v8 if your bootloader is locked
So, try to flash your X10 using flashtool with Doomlord kernel
Tell us if it worked, i hope it solved your problem as it do it for me.
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Hi,
I have had this issue too, for the last few months. No matter what ROM/Kernel, batt stats cleared, etc, still the same. Can idle all day, but as soon as I use 3G, GPS, or use any intensive app, she shuts down.
As an experiment I installed a battery monitor that plots graphs of % charge, temp, voltage, etc over time.
I had a close look at my logged graphs and have noticed that just before each reboot, the voltage seems to dip drastically. Battery charge is fine, does not seem to matter. but a sharp drop in voltage occurs. Increased draw for the more complex tasks (3G, GPS, etc) seems to be tripping it up.
As the Battery is now 2 years old, I figured it is just starting to fail? And iv noticed lots of people are suddenly coming out and complaining about this issue.
I just ordered a few new Batteries from 'Ebay', will see how we go!...
peace.
[INFO / SOLUTION] Suddenly shuts off with red LED.
Good to know:
The X10i/a have now reached an age, where battery failures is very common nowadays. Specially if one got the device early on or just after the launch.
Symptoms of a failing battery:
* Device suddenly shuts off, even when the battery have several percent remaining.
* Device drains fast, even when not used.
* Device might just shut off for no whatsoever reason when doing something that draws a lot of power, and will restart just fine.
* Device has a surprisingly fast charge time from empty to full.
When the device shuts off all of a sudden, it's followed by the indicator LED blinking red, rapidly three times, and might repeat this at restart attempts.
Sometimes it takes several tries before the device starts up again. Battery just needed a few minutes/an hour of "rest".
There's nothing wrong with the device.
Just get a fresh replacement battery and it'll work just fine again.
But beware:
There are many fake batteries out on the market, claiming that they have higher capacity, yet very slim in size.
There's a simple rule when it comes to battery capacity:
More capacity = larger in size, which might need a special back-cover. There's no escape from that.
If one would happen to find a such incredible slim battery with super capacity, the battery security circuits and/or chemical makeup probably have been circumvented/changed, and have a high risk of catching fire and/or explode when charging/discharging.
Yeah thanks for all the advice and sharing your problems. My phone does reboot alot when im using 3G or taking a video. Recently my battery would reboot, drop alot of percentage and then increase percentage without charging...magic I dont really want to buy a new battery because my new contract starts in june i think, but maybe il have to. Good luck for everyone else dolving there problems
Also, [email protected], i am on doom kernel and i still get reboots :/
danielk0302 said:
Yeah thanks for all the advice and sharing your problems. My phone does reboot alot when im using 3G or taking a video. Recently my battery would reboot, drop alot of percentage and then increase percentage without charging...magic I dont really want to buy a new battery because my new contract starts in june i think, but maybe il have to. Good luck for everyone else dolving there problems
Also, [email protected], i am on doom kernel and i still get reboots :/
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I've too had the same problem. solved it by replacing battery
Now everything's alright
I'm running dixperia rom with stock kernel
EDIT: but now I have a small problem. Hope someone can solve it. Sometimes, suddenly, the hardware keys light and backlight turns on, without doing any thing and this drains my battery I have to turn on the screen and turn it off back to switch off that backlight and hw keys light
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Im getting a new battery soon I hope so I will hopefully get my problem solved
Hello
So my GS2's battery was seriously getting crappy, and I ordered a new original battery (more expensive, but I really wanted it to work properly). Before the replacement, it was all over the place, and I think I may very well have a phone that's seriously confused about its battery options.
Thing is, after the replacement the phone isn't charging the new battery properly (AFAICT). If I'd have to venture a guess, I'd say it charges it to 33% and then it states 100% full.
So, I get just a handful of hours of regular on-time with this new battery. Sometimes the phone hard-dies when saying about 50% remaining, other times it actually says something like 2% remaining, then dies, but still awfully far from logical, considering the fresh battery replacement.
I've searched for how to calibrate this thing, and most results simply recommend the "fully deplete, then fully charge, extract, reinsert, etc." method.
However, this does nothing to help me.
I read somewhere that for some custom ROMs (Dorimanx kernel?) you could do a more "explicit" recalibration, but I'm not sure if that'd work — as I'm on ParanoidAndroid ATM, and here I don't have such option.
So... Does anyone here know of any more "legitimate" way of recalibrating? I really don't want to buy a new phone, as these days I don't see any phone I really want to buy...
TIA,
Daniel
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Thanks, Sparks, but I've already done this many times. I've had the battery for a couple of months now, but I really need to figure out how to calibrate the phone so that it starts behaving "normally" with my new battery...
Let it die, juice it up while it's off, take the batt for 90 sec when it hits 100% and put it back in?
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
MistahBungle said:
No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
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beicuxhaven said:
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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Something definitely needs calibration, and yes, of course it's not the battery itself when buying a fresh original battery does not fix one's battery problems, it must be some battery controller somewhere. I just started a new job, and my CEO has a Galaxy S3 which started having battery troubles. Like me, he replaced the battery, and like me, nothing changed.
In the meantime, my S2 died completely, so problem "solved" I kinda feel retarded for planning on buying a Note 3... Probably ought to run from Samsung devices altogether...