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So I recently purchased an HTC Amaze, and I have a few questions regarding it.
I've seen quite a few topics about free replacement accessories (back cover, USB cable, battery, and etc), and I'm wondering what phone number I'm supposed to contact in order to receive them, since I'm in Canada, so the phone number may be different. Reason as to why I want these, is that my back cover is squeaking on the right side of the phone and having an extra battery would be nice to compensate for the poor battery life.
Something that I've noticed after using my Amaze for a few days, is that it will switch between HSPA and UMTS rapidly at pretty much any point in time. Basically, it switches between them all the time. Information of my phone is basically, I'm on Mobilicity with Stock ICS, unrooted, and S-On. I'm willing to provide any other additional information which would be helpful to fix this issue.
Being somewhat of an audiophile, I like to use the Equalizer app from Smart Android Apps in order to compensate for lack of bass and treble on my headphones. However, I noticed that the app in question has no effect on the music playing. The graph at the top of the app does not show music playing even though it is. I have already disabled all of the sound enhancements in the stock HTC music player, but the Equalizer still does not have an effect on the music playing. I have tried searching in the Amaze forum with no results, so I'm wondering if anyone has any idea as to why the Equalizer app does not work. Again, I am on Mobilicity Stock ICS and unrooted.
EDIT: Apparently, the Equalizer app works with the pre installed Google Play Music, so the issue seems like it is only isolated to the stock HTC music player, which I prefer over Google Play Music.
With the above average camera, I like to take pictures here and there. However, I I occasionally have problems with the camera software, where the camera generates a complete black/blank photo. I usually see this when there is a delay in taking a picture with flash enabled. Sometimes the LEDs will flash as normal, but generate the blank picture, and sometimes the LEDs will lag and stay on, and then generate the black photo. Does this issue happen with anyone else and is there a possible fix?
If anyone is able to help me out with at least one of these issues, or even all of them, I'd appreciate it.
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1. You can get your replacement parts even in Canada, just look on htc's website for the contact number under support for your country
2. The device switching between H and 3G is normal as well, it's basically based on the coverage in your area, I'm using Telus stock so instead of saying 4G all the time, I get the constant switching as well, which I actually prefer knowing exactly what kind of coverage I'm receiving.
3. The equalizer probably wasn't made compatible for stock music apps, you can search around for other equalizers or simply get poweramp which has all you want, equalizer and music player in one
4. The camera issue is probably the cause of a bad update, I had this issue once when I first tried out Telus stock ICS, my device is originally t-mobile, but the bloatware annoys me so I switched to Telus software which is much smoother imo. Anyways, upon reflashing the update, the blank photo issue was gone, but here's another trick you can try since it's basically the camera I've been using, use the modded HQ camera, I've been using that ever since I reflashed, so to be honest I have no clue if the issue was fully fixed with a reflash but I've never had the issue since I've been using the modded HQ camera app.
Dark Nightmare said:
1. You can get your replacement parts even in Canada, just look on htc's website for the contact number under support for your country
2. The device switching between H and 3G is normal as well, it's basically based on the coverage in your area, I'm using Telus stock so instead of saying 4G all the time, I get the constant switching as well, which I actually prefer knowing exactly what kind of coverage I'm receiving.
3. The equalizer probably wasn't made compatible for stock music apps, you can search around for other equalizers or simply get poweramp which has all you want, equalizer and music player in one
4. The camera issue is probably the cause of a bad update, I had this issue once when I first tried out Telus stock ICS, my device is originally t-mobile, but the bloatware annoys me so I switched to Telus software which is much smoother imo. Anyways, upon reflashing the update, the blank photo issue was gone, but here's another trick you can try since it's basically the camera I've been using, use the modded HQ camera, I've been using that ever since I reflashed, so to be honest I have no clue if the issue was fully fixed with a reflash but I've never had the issue since I've been using the modded HQ camera app.
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1. The problem with Canada's phone numbers is that they only provide phone numbers for Carriers and Mobilicity doesn't happen to be on the list. Is it possible for you to help me look for a phone number, or is the US number that I've seen floating around suitable for use? (1-888-617-1113)
2. Ah, I see. I asked someone else about this issue as well, and it seems that it uses HSPA during active data use, and UMTS when there is a connection, but no traffic through it. That clears up that problem.
3. The odd thing is that the Equalizer app has worked on the HTC music player on multiple other versions as well on my HTC Panache (Glacier/myTouch 4G) under stock (Sense 2.1), and Sense 3.5 as well. I guess I just need to wait for an update to the app for it to support Sense 3.6 on ICS.
4. Reflashing the ROM isn't an option for me, at least until I root it, which I don't think I need to, as I'm satisfied with Stock. Could you please expand on the topic of the modded HQ Camera? I'm not entirely sure as to go about that.
P.S. Is there anyway to get rid of the screen bleed? I've read suggestions to use Screen Filter to disable the backlight on the keys, however Screen Filter does not work on the Amaze on ICS yet. This isn't terribly bothersome, and I could live with it without a solution, but I just want to see if there are any other ways to disable the backlight on the keys. It's fine if there isn't, I'm not concerned.
MidnightXZ said:
1. The problem with Canada's phone numbers is that they only provide phone numbers for Carriers and Mobilicity doesn't happen to be on the list. Is it possible for you to help me look for a phone number, or is the US number that I've seen floating around suitable for use? (1-888-617-1113)
2. Ah, I see. I asked someone else about this issue as well, and it seems that it uses HSPA during active data use, and UMTS when there is a connection, but no traffic through it. That clears up that problem.
3. The odd thing is that the Equalizer app has worked on the HTC music player on multiple other versions as well on my HTC Panache (Glacier/myTouch 4G) under stock (Sense 2.1), and Sense 3.5 as well. I guess I just need to wait for an update to the app for it to support Sense 3.6 on ICS.
4. Reflashing the ROM isn't an option for me, at least until I root it, which I don't think I need to, as I'm satisfied with Stock. Could you please expand on the topic of the modded HQ Camera? I'm not entirely sure as to go about that.
P.S. Is there anyway to get rid of the screen bleed? I've read suggestions to use Screen Filter to disable the backlight on the keys, however Screen Filter does not work on the Amaze on ICS yet. This isn't terribly bothersome, and I could live with it without a solution, but I just want to see if there are any other ways to disable the backlight on the keys. It's fine if there isn't, I'm not concerned.
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The same US number applies to Canada according to HTC site.
The hq camera mod is modded version of the stock camera uncompressing the images, hence increasing quality and it's a smoother one than the stock by a bit, but since you're not rooted, its not possible for you.
The only light bleed fix for ics is via speed Rom, but that's a custom Rom, you can check the bible thread, think gg had listed another method of fixing it there.
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Dark Nightmare said:
The same US number applies to Canada according to HTC site.
The hq camera mod is modded version of the stock camera uncompressing the images, hence increasing quality and it's a smoother one than the stock by a bit, but since you're not rooted, its not possible for you.
The only light bleed fix for ics is via speed Rom, but that's a custom Rom, you can check the bible thread, think gg had listed another method of fixing it there.
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1. According to the Canadian site, it isn't, but I'll take your word for it and use the US number.
2. I guess I won't be able to fix the camera without rooting then. I'll see if I can find the time to root my Amaze.
3. Pretty much the same as 2 then. No root, no fix. All right.
Thanks for all your help, Nightmare.
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MidnightXZ said:
1. According to the Canadian site, it isn't, but I'll take your word for it and use the US number.
2. I guess I won't be able to fix the camera without rooting then. I'll see if I can find the time to root my Amaze.
3. Pretty much the same as 2 then. No root, no fix. All right.
Thanks for all your help, Nightmare.
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Rooting only takes a minute by the way.
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Rooting only takes a minute by the way.
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Ah, so that's where the phone number is. I was planning to call the phone number that I found originally but it looks like you found the phone number that's actually supposed to be used. Thanks a lot.
I know rooting only takes a minute, but I only purchased the device a week ago and I plan to keep it. I don't want to risk my warranty with rooting yet. I'll research more on the Amaze's rooting procedure and see if it is able to be reverted without leaving a trace that it had been rooted in the first place.
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MidnightXZ said:
Ah, so that's where the phone number is. I was planning to call the phone number that I found originally but it looks like you found the phone number that's actually supposed to be used. Thanks a lot.
I know rooting only takes a minute, but I only purchased the device a week ago and I plan to keep it. I don't want to risk my warranty with rooting yet. I'll research more on the Amaze's rooting procedure and see if it is able to be reverted without leaving a trace that it had been rooted in the first place.
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Unrooting is simple, it's relocking the bootloader with s-on that leaves a trace, but it's all personal preference, don't do anything you won't be comfortable with.
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Unrooting is simple, it's relocking the bootloader with s-on that leaves a trace, but it's all personal preference, don't do anything you won't be comfortable with.
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Relocking the bootloader leaves a trace? I'm pretty well informed on the nature of rooting, I just want to be able to unroot without having it known to the manufacturer or carrier that I rooted in the first place, in case my device requires warranty servicing.
Is S-Off required for rooting, or am I able to root without S-Off, as the nature of the wire trick worries me.
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Relocking the bootloader leaves a trace? I'm pretty well informed on the nature of rooting, I just want to be able to unroot without having it known to the manufacturer or carrier that I rooted in the first place, in case my device requires warranty servicing.
Is S-Off required for rooting, or am I able to root without S-Off, as the nature of the wire trick worries me.
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You can root with s-on, what I meant by it leaves a trace is that with s-on when you lock the bootloader, it says "relocked", while with s-off, when you lock it, it says "locked" and then you can s-on as if you never did either, get the idea? Unlocking is required for root by the way.
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You can root with s-on, what I meant by it leaves a trace is that with s-on when you lock the bootloader, it says "relocked", while with s-off, when you lock it, it says "locked" and then you can s-on as if you never did either, get the idea? Unlocking is required for root by the way.
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So let me get this straight....
1. I can root with S-On.
2. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-On, it will say 'relocked'.
3. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-Off, it will say 'locked'.
Could you rephrase your statements? They are very confusing.
MidnightXZ said:
So let me get this straight....
1. I can root with S-On.
2. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-On, it will say 'relocked'.
3. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-Off, it will say 'locked'.
Could you rephrase your statements? They are very confusing.
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Reboot your device into Hboot mode, as in turn it off, hold volume down button and power it up, see where it says "locked"?
Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked".
If you s-off the device on the other hand and you lock the bootloader after unlocking, it will say "locked" exactly how it is right now.
Understand?
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Reboot your device into Hboot mode, as in turn it off, hold volume down button and power it up, see where it says "locked"?
Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked".
If you s-off the device on the other hand and you lock the bootloader after unlocking, it will say "locked" exactly how it is right now.
Understand?
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So you're saying if I lock the bootloader, even though it is already locked/S-On, it would say 'relocked'? Locking the bootloader when it is S-Off would make it display 'locked'?
If that's what you're saying, then the new bootloaders on HTC devices are pretty odd, but yes, I understand now.
So is S-Off required for rooting, and is the wire trick doing any permanent damage to the device, where I would not be able to have it fixed if it suddenly broke down?
MidnightXZ said:
So you're saying if I lock the bootloader, even though it is already locked/S-On, it would say 'relocked'? Locking the bootloader when it is S-Off would make it display 'locked'?
If that's what you're saying, then the new bootloaders on HTC devices are pretty odd, but yes, I understand now.
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No no no, that would be your result IF you unlock it, if it's not unlocked now, why would you lock it back?
Dark Nightmare said:
No no no, that would be your result IF you unlock it, if it's not unlocked now, why would you lock it back?
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That was what I was wondering, but you stated that "Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked"". Saying that if I lock the bootloader while I am S-On, it would say 'relocked'.
Okay, so finally...
1. If it is S-On, it will say 'locked'.
2. If it is S-Off, it will say 'relocked'.
...is the gist of what you're saying, right?
MidnightXZ said:
That was what I was wondering, but you stated that "Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked"". Saying that if I lock the bootloader while I am S-On, it would say 'relocked'.
Okay, so finally...
1. If it is S-On, it will say 'locked'.
2. If it is S-Off, it will say 'relocked'.
...is the gist of what you're saying, right?
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Swap the results and you have your answer, this would be if you unlock the bootloader and root the device.
Dark Nightmare said:
Swap the results and you have your answer, this would be if you unlock the bootloader and root the device.
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If I unlock the bootloader from S-On to S-Off, it will say locked.
If I relock the bootloader from S-Off to S-On, it will say relocked.
Correct?
MidnightXZ said:
If I unlock the bootloader from S-On to S-Off, it will say locked.
If I relock the bootloader from S-Off to S-On, it will say relocked.
Correct?
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Read the Amaze bible thread, the bootloader and s-on/s-off, are not the same. You're just changing everything I say around to suit yourself and not actually reading it properly, read over the past few post and take in every detail, if you don't understand a term, read the amaze bible thread, there's explanations to every term used daily here in there, if you don't find a term, google it, okay? Great.
Dark Nightmare said:
Read the Amaze bible thread, the bootloader and s-on/s-off, are not the same. You're just changing everything I say around to suit yourself and not actually reading it properly, read over the past few post and take in every detail, if you don't understand a term, read the amaze bible thread, there's explanations to every term used daily here in there, if you don't find a term, google it, okay? Great.
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Okay, I think I understand it now. So the Locked/Unlocked/Relocked is a new feature of the HTC bootloader which I haven't seen before in previous HTC devices. Therefore, the cause for my misunderstanding.
So one more try...
With S-On
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Relocked'.
With S-Off
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Locked' as it originally did.
Is this correct? I'm sorry about my previous failures. I was unaware of the new feature added to the HTC bootloader on the newer devices.
MidnightXZ said:
Okay, I think I understand it now. So the Locked/Unlocked/Relocked is a new feature of the HTC bootloader which I haven't seen before in previous HTC devices. Therefore, the cause for my misunderstanding.
So one more try...
With S-On
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Relocked'.
With S-Off
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Locked' as it originally did.
Is this correct? I'm sorry about my previous failures. I was unaware of the new feature added to the HTC bootloader on the newer devices.
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Excellent way of putting it, that is correct, you're no longer a n00b, lol.
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Please help read!!
So my HTC amaze died on me about 2 days ago I was listening to my music in my car connected through Bluetooth then a cop passed by and everything shut off haha coincidence haha anyway went home had no service like absolutely nothing thought nothing of it and went to sleep, next morning still nothing and ever since now its dead. Called HTC they said most likely its T-Mobile not the phone but they sent me a replacement back cover (which is cool) because the antennas are on the back anyway I know this isn't the problem because even without the back cover you can still get signal. So I took phone to T-Mobile put new sim tested and nothing so now I know its the phone not T-Mobile. Anyway my question is how can I prepare to send back to T-Mobile I have relocked phone put stock recovery and put leaked ics Rom. So is that bad that it sais relocked and bad if I'm using leaked ics rom I know its voids warrenty when it sais relocked but my software and phone everything works perfect its just the signal so will they fix it? And when I send in could I send phone with a eBay bought battery not HTC one so they could send me a new battery or should I send only HTC battery, phone, and back cover. And also is there any fix for this so I don't have to send in? Please help thanks
You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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You can install official ruu and that will update and install your hboot to locked, which is what tells them if it's locked or relocked. If you don't know how to do this you need to read. Also I've been hearing that ever since s off became available they are considering as voiding warranty not sure if this has taken effect yet or if it matters but just to be sure if your s off read the section that tells you how to s on.
Now before you send have you tried toggling airplane mode on and off ? Still no signal? Flash the official ruu usually fixes these issues. If still no signal then I suggest you send it in.
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It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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Dark Nightmare said:
It's still gonna say relocked, the only way he can get it back to "locked", is if he s-off's the device, once s-off is successful, it automatically puts it as locked all over again, he can leave it as lock, restore a stock ruu, then using, use the command: fastboot writesecureflag 3, that will s-on the device along with everything else being complete stock.
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Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
cast2brian said:
Hmm ya I know how to ruu wich I did but I ruu the ics leak and now everything's stock accept that it sais relocked and want to know if that's gonna be a problem for warrenty when I send it in? It shouldnt since its not software problem? And ya hear how to s off just don't want to try wire trick and all that. And yep tryed turning off and on airplane mode turning off radio taking T-Mobile to change sim cards have original stock Rom tryed *#*#4636#*#* all those tricks but nothing.
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When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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fcpelayo said:
Yeah I wasn't sure if he was s off or not but thanks for correcting me.
When you chose to unlock boatloader you voided your warranty. So by saying relocked it tells them you unlocked it. You need to do what dark nightmare says or you run the risk of not warranting your phone. Luckily for me I "lost" my phone so I couldn't send it in.
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Just trying to help you get that under your hat, no offense meant.
Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid
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Aw man well hope HTC is cool about it since its not a software problem but just gotta hope for the best!! Ha argh sucks I bought this on craigslist a couple months back for $300 ha I have pre paid <br />
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I've never heard of a warranty exchange get denied for this phone... even rooted. Most issues with this device are hw issues... u will be fine
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aw glacierguy thanks for the positive attitude! hope everything goes good for my phone!
So update for everyone i called HTC back and told them to cancel my back cover replacement for the Amaze because i know this is not the reason why i have no bars! because without that cover i still had bars and i know the amaze has some more antennas inside the device. Anyway i told them that i want to send the phone in for repairs so now everything set up and just have to send the phone on its way :crying: hope its a hardware issue and they can fix it. In the mean time got kinda intresting email from HTC saying
"After we receive the device, we will diagnose it and if there are any damages that fall outside of the limited warranty, we will contact you with a quotation to repair. If you choose not to repair, a service fee of up to $35 dollars will be charged and the device will be returned unrepaired."
Yes kinda scared me but hope i don't have to pay anything for this repair so everyone wish me luck and ill let you guys know how everything goes.
Sucks im probably not gonna have my phone for about a month
Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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Just asking, but even if you managed to get the phone completely back to stock and say "Locked" isn't HTC able to tell if you've unlocked the bootloader via their unlock process on the website?
I was under the impression that the entire reason for the HTC unlock process (getting the key from the phone, etc) was so that they would have a database of phones that have had their bootloader unlocked? I'm kind of new to this but that was my impression.
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
Yes what darknightmare said you could get token but maybe last second decided not to do it haha anywho sending it saying relocked hope they fix hardware issue if not maybe gotta spend money?
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I think they do have a database, yes, but that only tells them that you requested the file, they can't know you YOU used the file, can they? Huh? Nope, if they knew you used the file, that sir would be invasion of privacy, then they'd be paying for more than just a simple device replacement with the lawsuits that would be hitting them from every mobile device owner using their product.
So once it says "Locked", they can't say you voided your warranty, then they'd have to prove it.
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
Ya for sure lets see what htc sais shipped out today through ups htc should get it thursday hope ups loses or breaks my packagae have 300 dollar insurance ha but yep anyone know of any prices for this fix?
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They don't need a database. There is no way I know of to get a "locked" phone once it has been unlocked. It will say "relocked". So HTC knows it has had an unlocked bootloader. That doesn't necessarily negate the warranty so far as HTC is concerned. I've read that they have fixed what are obviously hardware problems. But they won't fix anything that a ROM screwed up unless you pay.
The wildcard is T-Mobile. They may or may not be picky about these sort of things.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
Dark Nightmare said:
Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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100% on what Dark Nightmare said, i followed the procedure on the forums on how to completely restore to stock. i was s-off etc.. after it was all said and done, my phone was locked and ready to rock. I sent it back after my replacement arrived and all was good.
Just read through General, Q&A and Dev section, Trust me the answer is there. It's ALWAYS there. I used the GB juopunutbear S-off tool instead of the ICS tool cause i am retarded and didn't take my time and got stuck because of it. I did 2-3 minutes of using the search button and i was fixed in a second!
First of all! Yes Dark Nightmare is correct he knows his stuff you can put it back to locked anywho i would first like to say thank you for all the replys to this post. First post and didnt think my question would be answered but it was and its a great community we got here, i may be new member, but ive always been on xda reading up and hacking all my phones i have went from metro pcs huawei ascend, tmobile my touch 4g and now htc amaze all rooted and custom roms also have done droid and sidekick 4g. The thing is i do have experience and learned alot. Main thing is its an honor to have Dark nightmare and glacierguy here i feel like you guys are famous! ha have seen you guys in different sections and you guys know your stuff so thanks!
p.s everyone that posted i hit thanks
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That's why when dknmare comes in I don't argue with him instead I take it and learn.
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Sir, when I say there is a way to get a "locked" bootloader, please don't argue with me unless you can prove my theories wrong, , I have tested and proven everything I speak of, I don't just say something because I want to.
Edit: For the record, once it says "relocked" you have voided your warranty, if you read the agreement on HTC website when unlocking your bootloader and the message on the device when unlocking, it clearly states by unlocking your bootloader you are voiding your warranty.
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I think my post may not have been clear. Of course you can lock the bootloader; that is how one installs the original ROM. But I was under the impression that it then says ”relocked” if you have previously unlocked the device. That warning from HTC have me a lot of pause when I read it! But I think what I read said ”may” void your warranty. But I was reading fast...
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I was told Nexus devices warranties aren't voided, is this true? Just not 100% if I want to keep my N9 but I wanna root it to see if it can satisfy what I need it for
"But if you restore the factory Image and relock the bootloader they will never know... effectively restoring your warranty." - Is this true? From a Nexus 7 thread
Thanks!
When u unlock your bootloader .. its says it "may" void warranty. Undortuantley i am unsure of what that "may" means. But as far as i know unlocking bootloader wont void your warranty. But correct me if im wrong.
It's a nexus, no warranty void when unlocking/locking rooting/unrooting.
This is how nexus worked since the beginning.
If they change this, nexus would sell probably not at all anymore because it would be like every other tablet/phone beside the stock android.
So no, no warranty void. Period
HTC's documentation in the box makes it clear that unlocking voids the warranty. It looks like a blanket policy, but there's no other info to the contrary.
beetmonger said:
HTC's documentation in the box makes it clear that unlocking voids the warranty. It looks like a blanket policy, but there's no other info to the contrary.
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Yeah, so that's why it says "May".
Buy from HTC, lose warranty with unlock.
Buy from Play, no such problem.
I just unlocked and rooted mine. I'm feeling underwhelmed for $400 though, and I'm considering a return under Googles:
If you aren’t happy with something you bought, you can return an item within 15 calendar days after the day you received it
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https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2411741?hl=en
It doesn't say anything about being unable to return after unlocking. I'd just relock and put it back to stock, though Google or their service company (?) would likely do the same anyway.
mikereidis said:
Yeah, so that's why it says "May".
Buy from HTC, lose warranty with unlock.
Buy from Play, no such problem.
I just unlocked and rooted mine. I'm feeling underwhelmed for $400 though, and I'm considering a return under Googles:
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2411741?hl=en
It doesn't say anything about being unable to return after unlocking. I'd just relock and put it back to stock, though Google or their service company (?) would likely do the same anyway.
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I doubt there's different warranty information in a mass produced box, regardless of where you ordered. But if you have it in writing, you're safe. I expect most people here aren't too worried about their warranty, but I prefer to know the actual policy rather than hope for the best.
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Yeah, so that's why it says "May".
Buy from HTC, lose warranty with unlock.
Buy from Play, no such problem.
I just unlocked and rooted mine. I'm feeling underwhelmed for $400 though, and I'm considering a return under Googles:
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2411741?hl=en
It doesn't say anything about being unable to return after unlocking. I'd just relock and put it back to stock, though Google or their service company (?) would likely do the same anyway.
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Basically the same as me. I paid $608 AUD for my black 32gb one and I just feel like its probably not worth it...
You can always relock the BL with fastboot OEM lock and like magic it's locked again
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You can always relock the BL with fastboot OEM lock and like magic it's locked again
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After locking mine again (for warranty return), it flashes "This is a development device not intended for production use" in red letters at the top of the screen during boot... I guess I'm about to find out if it voids the warranty.
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After locking mine again (for warranty return), it flashes "This is a development device not intended for production use" in red letters at the top of the screen during boot... I guess I'm about to find out if it voids the warranty.
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Maybe you could relfash the stock ROM and relock it?
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Maybe you could relfash the stock ROM and relock it?
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Yep, that's exactly what I just did. Thanks! I did a little more searching and found a few others making that suggestion. I followed this process for a manual flash (after the flash-all script failed), then `fastboot oem lock` before rebooting. I no longer see the "development device" message!
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Yep, that's exactly what I just did. Thanks! I did a little more searching and found a few others making that suggestion. I followed this process for a manual flash (after the flash-all script failed), then `fastboot oem lock` before rebooting. I no longer see the "development device" message!
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No problem, its a Nexus so there is always a way to fix it by flashing.
So what is Bump? I understand its a "bootloader workaround", but i just dont see how it works? If you were to boot into the bootloader, would it say ***UNLOCKED*** or ***LOCKED***? I really don't get it, how do you simply bypass it? lol, is it worse than a full unlock? If so, then how? Someone explain this to me, I cannot find anything on Google and the lack of information is driving me insane considering I'm going to be doing this tomorrow and usually know exactly what I'm getting into.
To rant on a bit more....I really just don't understand it, I'm big on my personal thought of how my phone is so the potential of it being "LOCKED" still really disturbs me for unknown reasons. But I realize that isn't really the important thing, still just wanna know what it is. I also don't understand how you can do things and still have a locked bootloader to begin with, so if someone could explain that to me (in the case its still locked), that would be fantabatastical!
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So what is Bump? I understand its a "bootloader workaround", but i just dont see how it works? If you were to boot into the bootloader, would it say ***UNLOCKED*** or ***LOCKED***? I really don't get it, how do you simply bypass it? lol, is it worse than a full unlock? If so, then how? Someone explain this to me, I cannot find anything on Google and the lack of information is driving me insane considering I'm going to be doing this tomorrow and usually know exactly what I'm getting into.
To rant on a bit more....I really just don't understand it, I'm big on my personal thought of how my phone is so the potential of it being "LOCKED" still really disturbs me for unknown reasons. But I realize that isn't really the important thing, still just wanna know what it is. I also don't understand how you can do things and still have a locked bootloader to begin with, so if someone could explain that to me (in the case its still locked), that would be fantabatastical!
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Since LG and Verizon both lock their bootloaders there is no "Official" way to unlock the bootloader. You can't even boot to bootloader. There is just no such thing. Bump is a work around to get TWRP installed without unlocking the bootloader.
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Since LG and Verizon both lock their bootloaders there is no "Official" way to unlock the bootloader. You can't even boot to bootloader. There is just no such thing. Bump is a work around to get TWRP installed without unlocking the bootloader.
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I found the thread for the devs and now I understand it, basically allows you to sign images that the BL will allow, so its pretty much just as good as a BL unlock. Neat!
I recently purchased a T-Mobile LG G5. I am not too tech savvy, and since I'm a novice when it comes to rooting, I have a question I need help with.
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my phone. Shortly after doing so, I noticed a blister in the paint of the phone's battery/charging port tray. This is the part I'm referring to. http://www.globaldirectparts.com/OEM-LG-G5-Accessory-Module-Loud-Speaker-Gold-p/lgg5hsg4gld.htm
I contacted T-Mobile, and they offered me a warranty replacement. That sounds great, but I'm bummed out. I have my phone customized exactly how I want it, screen protector and all. I can't figure out if I want to go through the hassle of unrooting my phone, relocking the bootloader, then doing the reverse to the new phone.
Anyhow, the answer to this one question will help me decide. There's always the possibility that the T-Mobile store rep will be unconvinced the blister, which has since then burst, was a manufacturer defect. It actually now looks more like a scratch. If I go ahead and relock the bootloader, but am denied the warranty replacement and have to keep my current phone, will I be able to unlock it again? Or should I save myself the hassle and shell out $70 to buy a new battery/charging port tray?
The common sense answer is to ignore the blemish and keep using my current phone. But I'm a perfectionist when it comes to these things and can't bring myself to do it.
EDIT: I'm going to leave this up rather then delete because the answer below may have valuable information for somebody else. But there was never a blister in the paint. I feel like such an idiot. The phone came with a plastic protective adhesive that was applied so well, I never realized it was on. That's what blistered.
You could relock the bootloader, and send it back. The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted. If you decide to lock the bootloader again though, you can unlock it later on again, that is no problem. I would suggest unrooting it, and relocking the bootloade, if you can not ignore that blemish. I just got mine yesterday, and im debating whether i should root it again, because i am not certain that i could re lock it and recover the warranty. I only need to root it because of adaway, since there is no custom rom support yet.
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Thanks for the reply. Read my edit to the original post. You're gonna laugh.
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Thanks for the reply. Read my edit to the original post. You're gonna laugh.
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Yea, It's legit funny have fun with your g5!
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Is there a way to unlock a relocked BL?
I bought a used G5 H850. When I try to unlock BL on LG site, I get the following message "Device ID is unmatched. Please check your Device ID. Your account will be locked if you enter the wrong Device ID more than 4 times.".
Searching in the internet, it seems that I get this message because my phone had been unlocked once.
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The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted.
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1.) the phone id was entered to get the unlock code
2.) you can find a unlock detector in a hidden service menu
:crying: if they want to see, they will be able to see!
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Csetoue said:
Searching in the internet, it seems that I get this message because my phone had been unlocked once.
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as I know:
that’s right! At the first time the phone was unlocked; the id was registered as "unlocked" in the LG data pool! AND unfortunately the ID was related to the user account of first registration.
Best way will be to contact the first owner if you can.
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You could relock the bootloader, and send it back. The question is rather whether they would find out, since i am not quite sure if they can see that the phone was ever rooted. If you decide to lock the bootloader again though, you can unlock it later on again, that is no problem. I would suggest unrooting it, and relocking the bootloade, if you can not ignore that blemish. I just got mine yesterday, and im debating whether i should root it again, because i am not certain that i could re lock it and recover the warranty. I only need to root it because of adaway, since there is no custom rom support yet.
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How to relock the bootloader pal?
Im curius because, even if the bootloader is locked again, cant LG search among the IMEI's and find out that previously the device was tweaked?
Thanks!
alextheboss96 said:
How to relock the bootloader pal?
Im curius because, even if the bootloader is locked again, cant LG search among the IMEI's and find out that previously the device was tweaked?
Thanks!
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While LG will know that the Unlock.img file was requested they wont know if you have used it or not. So they will need evidence that you used the file in order to warrenty void.
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While LG will know that the Unlock.img file was requested they wont know if you have used it or not. So they will need evidence that you used the file in order to warrenty void.
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Ooh i see. Cool bro thanks for the reply!