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I have two 230V to USB-chargers from Sony Ericsson and they charge my X10 like they should. But when I use Apples charger for the iPhone (with SE's USB-cable, of course) it won't charge the phone at all. I've tried another charger but to no avail. And my car charger won't work either.
So, my question is: Why doesn't it work? It worked perfectly with my X1.
How Many mA has the original Charger and how many the others?
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How Many mA has the original Charger and how many the others?
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The original charger has 700mA output and the iPhone charger has 1000mA output. So there SHOULDN'T be a problem. But it doesn't work at all.
It's not mAh you should be looking at, that's irrelevant. What's more interesting is what voltage it is. Maximum allowed as per the microUSB standard is 5V. So the Nokia charger i have around(5v/1200mAh) charges the X10 just fine And it's alot faster than the 700mAh SE charger of course - BUT - it gets hotter of course
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It's not mAh you should be looking at, that's irrelevant. What's more interesting is what voltage it is. Maximum allowed as per the microUSB standard is 5V. So the Nokia charger i have around(5v/1200mAh) charges the X10 just fine And it's alot faster than the 700mAh SE charger of course - BUT - it gets hotter of course
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Well yeah, but the iPhone carger is rated at 5V 1A.
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Well yeah, but the iPhone carger is rated at 5V 1A.
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Then Apple, being Apple, have made it non-complaint. The Nokia chargers we have here at the office(micro USB) all work just fine.
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Then Apple, being Apple, have made it non-complaint. The Nokia chargers we have here at the office(micro USB) all work just fine.
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Weird. Because it works with my X1.
I thought usb2 specified 500ma (@5v) tops per port? didnt think you where allowed to pull more! guessing a 1000ma charger could be split to charge several devices at once?
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I thought usb2 specified 500ma (@5v) tops per port? didnt think you where allowed to pull more! guessing a 1000ma charger could be split to charge several devices at once?
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Possibly. But I think the chargers are rated higher for faster charging.
The ports on the PC are rated 5V/500mAh - but the chargers can be higher for faster charging as Flamso pointed out.
Hmm that must mean that the phones are setup to allow them to pull more current otherwise it wouldnt make a diffence, makes sense though and i'm guessing thats why its been taking me a long while to charge the thing (I've only been plugging it into my comp at home and my lappy at work!), might have to plug the charger in and see how it fairs from that.
I would guess then that it makes the distinction by the presence of the data lines then? Ie if no data lines then it must be a charger so pull more power? Forgive my ignorance of electronics if this is wrong, it has been a long while since I covered this stuff at school!
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Hmm that must mean that the phones are setup to allow them to pull more current otherwise it wouldnt make a diffence, makes sense though and i'm guessing thats why its been taking me a long while to charge the thing (I've only been plugging it into my comp at home and my lappy at work!), might have to plug the charger in and see how it fairs from that.
I would guess then that it makes the distinction by the presence of the data lines then? Ie if no data lines then it must be a charger so pull more power? Forgive my ignorance of electronics if this is wrong, it has been a long while since I covered this stuff at school!
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How it exactly works i don't know, but can figure it out by asking a few of the electrical engineers that I know - but yes the phones are setup to draw more current from chargers vs. laptops(as per the specifications).
You will however not notice a huge improvement of charging time using the supplied SE charger as it only delivers 700mAh - I did notice a huge improvement(of course!) using the 1200mAh Nokia charger I had.
I might well have to invest in one of those and upgrade my desk (i'm very geeky and have built in trunking with ports for everything in my desk at home!)
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Hmm that must mean that the phones are setup to allow them to pull more current otherwise it wouldnt make a diffence, makes sense though and i'm guessing thats why its been taking me a long while to charge the thing (I've only been plugging it into my comp at home and my lappy at work!), might have to plug the charger in and see how it fairs from that.
I would guess then that it makes the distinction by the presence of the data lines then? Ie if no data lines then it must be a charger so pull more power? Forgive my ignorance of electronics if this is wrong, it has been a long while since I covered this stuff at school!
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I'm more interested in the distinction the phone makes for different kind of chargers. I was told that the LG micro USB-charger works with the X10 and it has 750mA. I just don't understand why it has to be a certain specification on the charger for the phone to accept charging. Other phones with similar hardware works with most chargers!
The Iphone charger was design in a way that it needed all 4 pins(1(+), D+, D-, 4(-)) to charge, whereas the normal phone will only need 2 pins(1 and 4). So my guess is that when we plug in our X10 it doesn't telly with the charger because of the use of the D+ and D- pin. Thus it won't respond.
Have anyone try using X10 charger to charge an iphone? I bet it won't work too.
I am No expert, just guessing.
You need to make a cable, short the pins 2,3 "Data + / -"
Most of the smartphone will detect the data signal, if no signal it's wont charge
I make a cable and use with Sanyo 5000Mah portable USB charger to charge my X1 and X10
Warning: make the cable is your own risk!!!!!!
USB pins assignment
VCC+, Data - , Data + , GND
Normally the color order is Red, White, Green, Black
Thanks~
Oh. That explains much! Not that it matters though, I already have two SE-chargers I was just curious! Have to buy more micro USB-cords though!
i'm sure it's software related.
all the new generation devices needed new universal chargers.
all one year old chargers were obsolete when the new iPhone, iPod touch, nexus1 or milestone appeard.
now all the next generation of universal chargers won't work with the X10. (it's a sony !)
tested lots of them and the samsung spica charger was the only one that works with the X10. (no milestone-charger and forget about all artwizz.)
fyi the charger for the blackberry curve works fine with my x10. charges just as quick, or at least it wasn't noticably slower/quicker.
Has anyone been able to get their X10 to charge with any chargers apart from the supplied one, a Nokia one or using USB on a computer?
I have tried an iPod charger, a Belkin universal charger, a blackberry charger, an HTC charger and a blackberry in car charger but nothing works.
Is there a setting on the phone that I'm missing?
i bought two extra usb cables from amazon, i can't link to them since i don't have enough posts yet, but they're the "EMPIRE USB Data Cable for Verizon HTC ThunderBolt" from amazon
i intentionally looked for some that said for use with thunderbolt in case there was something different than just a micro-usb cable; however, it does not seem that these cables charge as well as the cable that ships. it takes several hours even when trying to charge with the original AC adapter using one of these cables vs the ~1.5-2 hours with the cable that comes with. When trying to use a computer or a car adapter it just holds the charge steady, if using navigation it actually drops battery while plugged in!
is there something i'm missing here? they should all be the same right? can anyone point me to some that actually work? (preferably from amazon since i have gift cards there)
I've had the same problem.
Make sure you are getting the correct voltage. I think my issues are that USB is a slower charge than outlets and the "extra" charger I had was for my bluetooth which had a lower voltage.
strobieone said:
I've had the same problem.
Make sure you are getting the correct voltage. I think my issues are that USB is a slower charge than outlets and the "extra" charger I had was for my bluetooth which had a lower voltage.
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yeah, i understand that usb from the computer will be a lower voltage, which is what i thought the issue was at first. but then i tried using the original AC adapter with the replacement usb cable and it was slower than the original cable. i don't see why the cable would make a difference, but it definitely appears to.
i downloaded the current widget and can see that just swapping between the OEM cable and the aftermarket cable the charging current is quite different. ~+600ma with the OEM and -100ma to +300ma with the aftermarket (yes at times it was LOSING charge while plugged in using the aftermarket)
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yeah, i understand that usb from the computer will be a lower voltage, which is what i thought the issue was at first. but then i tried using the original AC adapter with the replacement usb cable and it was slower than the original cable. i don't see why the cable would make a difference, but it definitely appears to.
i downloaded the current widget and can see that just swapping between the OEM cable and the aftermarket cable the charging current is quite different. ~+600ma with the OEM and -100ma to +300ma with the aftermarket (yes at times it was LOSING charge while plugged in using the aftermarket)
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You should never use any other cable than the one provided with your Thunderbolt. On the site it may say that it "Works" with the Thunderbolt but that doesn't mean you are going to get the performance you need out of it. I have had that problem plenty of times with older cables and sadly it keeps me buying the slightly overpriced cables from Verizon so I know that I get what I need.
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yeah, i understand that usb from the computer will be a lower voltage, which is what i thought the issue was at first. but then i tried using the original AC adapter with the replacement usb cable and it was slower than the original cable. i don't see why the cable would make a difference, but it definitely appears to.
i downloaded the current widget and can see that just swapping between the OEM cable and the aftermarket cable the charging current is quite different. ~+600ma with the OEM and -100ma to +300ma with the aftermarket (yes at times it was LOSING charge while plugged in using the aftermarket)
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It sounds like a defective cable. Check to see how it's charging (AC or USB). If it says USB when connected to the HTC charger, the cable is bad.
I use micro-USB cables I got from Monoprice, no problems.
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It sounds like a defective cable. Check to see how it's charging (AC or USB). If it says USB when connected to the HTC charger, the cable is bad.
I use micro-USB cables I got from Monoprice, no problems.
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It's not defective, it's just not designed for charging. OP, always make sure it says it is a charger cable, not a data cable, when you buy one.
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It's not defective, it's just not designed for charging.
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BS. You have no clue what you're talking about. The TB follows the USB charging specification.
The thing about USB (Universal serial bus) cables is that they are UNIVERSAL. It doesn't matter where you get them from, what they say, or what they are branded. They have to meet certain specs (including materials and current capacity) in order to get the USB label.
If you're having a problem, I am 99% sure the cable is not the issue.
Try out monoprice.com. I've used them for years. You can get 3 wall chargers, 5 USB cables and 2 car chargers (all 1A) for like $25, shipped.
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BS. You have no clue what you're talking about. The TB follows the USB charging specification.
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The thing about USB (Universal serial bus) cables is that they are UNIVERSAL. It doesn't matter where you get them from, what they say, or what they are branded. They have to meet certain specs (including materials and current capacity) in order to get the USB label.
If you're having a problem, I am 99% sure the cable is not the issue.
Try out monoprice.com. I've used them for years. You can get 3 wall chargers, 5 USB cables and 2 car chargers (all 1A) for like $25, shipped.
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yeah, i'm with you, that's why i posed to see if there was something i'm missing and didn't know about. i'm a computer engineer so i know a cable is a cable is a cable, which is why i was like wtf when these didn't work the same.
thanks all, at least i know i didn't miss something and these should work the same.
ive had this problem on every phone. takes forever to charge through usb.
A USB cable is a USB cable is a USB cable is a USB cable.
If you are doing seat of your pants checks on charging, etc, they are never going to be accurate. CPU usage, network usage, etc while the phone is charging will affect how quickly it does charge. The stock charger provides 1000mA to charge the device, if you are using it, or another app is doing something (downloading data, using cpu, etc) it will not charge as quickly because power is being drained as it is being charged.
There is too much that would cause a slower charge state that you can't compensate for by a seat of the pants judgement on charging.
Its all about the mA.
No, thats not a storm. Its just my Thunderbolt layin down this post.
I have the same issue. I have tried four different usb cables with the oem charger and only two charge normally, the oem and one that I had with an old phone that I put a mini to micro adapter on to fit. The other two, one actually micro one mini to micro adapted, charge extremely slow. Yes a cable is a cable, but given I use the oem charger, the only differing things are the cables.
For what it's worth, I hate to burst your bubbles but not all USB cables are equal. And, in fact, not all phones are optimized for USB cables. Just because a cable looks like a USB cable and works as a USB cable doesn't mean that it is ONLY a USB cable. There are quite a few devices out there that can be charged (albeit slowly) with a USB cable but can be charged quickly with a cable that you only think is a USB cable. Take the Nook Color, for instance. The cable that it comes with looks like a USB cable on all accounts, but it's not. I forget which (both are techniques currently used) but either it has extra pins or has a data pin repurposed to provide additional power so it can charge faster. There are quite a few devices out there that are like this, and it seems like the number of these devices just keep growing and growing.
Now these "non-USB" devices still support USB standards, and can be charged via USB standard cables. However, they are optimized for non-USB standards and charge faster with these non-USB cables.
I'm honestly not sure if our Thunderbolts are such a device or not, and if the cables that they come with are such cables. They very well could be, and what the OP claims goes along with that theory. But honestly, I simply do not know.
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Oh, and one more example. Go take a look at the custom "USB" cables that Team Blackhat had made that can power Motorola devices in CWM without a battery in the device. This is yet another example of where a USB cable isn't a USB cable.
Having the data pins connected to 5v sources is part of the charger itself; it has nothing to do with the cable.
Every USB cable has 4 pins: two 5v+, a gnd and a 5v- if the second + and - aren't connected to a source in the charger, you will only get a 0.5A charge, and it will go slow. If the charger DOES have them connected, you get the full 1A, and a much faster charge.
If the charger or cable is anything different then it is not USB. End of story. I know some phones have extra pins in the USB location for video out, for example, but those don't interfere with the standard USB pins.
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Every USB cable has 4 pins: two 5v+, a gnd and a 5v-
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Wrong, kinda. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nook_Color#USB_port
The Nook Color uses a modified connector with two depths. The first depth is compatible with micro-usb (5-conductor), while the second depth has 12 conductors. This change was made to increase the amount of power available to charge the larger battery of the Nook Color when using the included cable.
Because of this, the USB cable included with the Nook Color is physically incompatible with other devices employing standard micro-usb connectors. However, the Nook Color itself is physically compatible with standard micro-usb cords.
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Now I realize that calling this a "USB Cable" might be stretching the definition of "USB Cable" (hence the "wrong, kinda" comment) but more than likely, most people have no clue that one cable is different than another, so the end result is that, for all practical purposes, we DO have different types of USB cables.
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Every USB cable has 4 pins: two 5v+, a gnd and a 5v- if the second + and - aren't connected to a source in the charger, you will only get a 0.5A charge, and it will go slow. If the charger DOES have them connected, you get the full 1A, and a much faster charge.
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Close, but not quite.
The pins are +5, Ground, +D and -D. All power is drawn through the +5 and Ground lines. The D lines are used for data transfer.
Per the USB specifications, a device can only draw 100 mA without enumerating (negotiating via USB, implies both ends have "intelligence"). If it can enumerate, it can negotiate for up to 500 mA (e.g. plugged into a PC which has a "driver" which recognizes the phone).
There are also specifications for DCPs (Dedicated Charging Ports). For these, the D+ and D- pins (the center two in a full sized USB connector) on the charger must be connected together with no more than 200 Ohms. These ports must provide at least 500 mA, but can provide more (micro-USB connectors are rated to 1.8 A). That's how the phone knows it can draw more than 100 mA from a "dumb" power adapter.
The TB follows the USB charging spec. Here are some things that can happen.
If it's plugged into a charger which doesn't follow the USB spec (D+ and D- not connected together, these are fairly common), it can only draw 100 mA. It doesn't matter if you bought a "2.5 Amp USB charger," if the charger doesn't follow the spec, a device which does isn't supposed to draw more than 100 mA. That's enough to charge it very slowly when the screen is off and it's idling. If the phone is doing anything, the battery will actually be discharging. This is a problem which seems to be common with many car chargers. A lot of device will ignore the 100 mA spec limit, and draw whatever they can, which is why they will charge from an improper adapter.
It's plugged into a PC with no driver - same thing.
It's plugged into a PC with a driver - it can negotiate and pull 500 mA. This is enough to charge while running in almost all cases (it might be on the edge if streaming video via 4G with GPS on, etc.) It will charge, but not as fast as it could.
For all of the above, a TB will show "USB" as the charging type.
It's plugged into a USB DCP. By spec, these must be able to deliver at least 500 mA. The AC adapter shipped with the TB is marked 1.0 A, and the phone won't draw more than 1.0 A (the most I've seen it use to charge the battery is ~800 mA). This will allows the fastest charging. With a DCP, the TB will show "AC" as the charging type.
Cables can have the same effect - all USB cables are supposed to be basically the same. But, some manufacturer's play loose with the spec. They may have "USB" cables with resistors or other changes inside which signal different things to a device. They may not have proper gauge wiring. It may just be a bad cable. Etc.
I've charged the TB with the stock AC charger using both the stock cable, and one I got from Monoprice. Works fine. I've also got a USB hub I converted to a charging station (follows the spec for USB dedicated charging ports), and that works fine with both the original and the Monoprice cables.
I have run into "flaky" cables, where they only work right if jiggled around a bit. Maybe they've been flexed too much, and have an intermittent connection. Maybe the contacts have gotten dirty. I don't worry about it, I just throw those away, you can get new ones from Monoprice for less than a buck.
Thanks Mike S (Also my initials, lol) That's what I get for posting after staying up a bit too late.
well i just ordered two micro usb cables from monoprice. we'll see if those fare any better.
the only thing i can guess is the power wires are a small gauge in the cables i bought from amazon. monoprice has two different kinds, some use 28awg for both data/power and then they have some that have 24awg for power and 28awg for data. i'm hoping that getting the bigger wire for the power will solve the issue.
also, i've been using juiceplotter and you can visibly see the slope of the charge change when switching just between these cables i bought vs the stock one when using the HTC charger so i'm pretty certain it's the cable.
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i've been using juiceplotter
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Battery Monitor Widget will do that, and more, including telling you whether it's charging AC or USB.
You can also check the charging type from Home Settings/About Phone/Battery/Battery Status.
I just got my microUSB to HDMI adapter from Monoprice and it works well. However, is it supposed to maintain current to the phone? I have it all plugged in and I get an orange light on the phone but I lost 10% battery power using it for 15 minutes. Doesn't seem right?
P.S. Monoprice customer service is excellent. I can't speak to the longevity of the products but the service is excellent.
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I had the same issue with the same Monoprice MHL adapter, even when 'charging' the system with a 1A wall plug.
Ozy666 said:
I had the same issue with the same Monoprice MHL adapter, even when 'charging' the system with a 1A wall plug.
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What is a 1A wall plug?
For the record, I am using the OEM plug connected to a microUSB cable I bought from Monoprice.
Uh oh. Did we get screwed?
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I used an AC outlet 1 amp USB charging plug to power the system with a standard micro-USB cable.
People have observed problems with charging the Rezound through a car dock, so maybe it's related to that problem as well.
I tried charging using the Monoprice cable and it charged fine. If we were unsure before, I can say for sure now that it is the adapter. I don't know if it's the one sold by monoprice or, like you said, a bug in the system. Guess I can only watch 60 min. of video (tops and end up with a dead phone) or I'm out $7... kind of think I'm out the money... and no need for the cables I bought with it. Hope others read this.
The other Monoprice cables are fine. No beef with them.
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I asked Monoprice about it. Here's what they said....
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Hello Mr. Paul,
I understand that there may be an issue with your MHL adapter you had purchased. One thing to keep in mind is that our phones are really powerful now and draw a huge amount of power. So one thing to first consider is your power draw, secondly remember most androids can tell whether it’s connected to a computer usb port or AC power supply by checking if the data pins are shorted together. Since the data pins will be in use with the MHL adapter it will never register as an AC power supply and will not draw more than 500ma of power available to a computer usb port. This is not a limitation of the MHL adapter, but rather a design flaw in the implementation of MHL itself on the phone and perhaps design flaw is a little harsh but with the implementation of the MHL on the phone, not the adapter itself. Hopefully this clears up some things for you and if the adapter isn’t going to quite work out for you I can still issue an RMA for a return for you if you like I would just need an order number to get the process started.
Thank you
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Again, good customer service. Unfortunate about the phone limitations.
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Anyone know if this is a hardware or software issue?
feralicious said:
Anyone know if this is a hardware or software issue?
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Based on the information from tech support above, it sound like a hardware issue.
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It is a hardware issue, the official HTC MHL adaptor does the exact same thing. (I have two of them)
~John
Yeah, I thought it might be something like that. People were able to fix the car dock charging issue by shorting the data pins, but obviously that won't work for the MHL adapter.
I ordered one from monoprice too, I'll test it when I get home from vacation.
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jmorton10 said:
It is a hardware issue, the official HTC MHL adaptor does the exact same thing. (I have two of them)
~John
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Yeah, I thought it might be something like that. People were able to fix the car dock charging issue by shorting the data pins, but obviously that won't work for the MHL adapter.
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I wonder if a Y adapter out of the phone to split the adapter and a charging cable would work? If there is such a thing for micro usb.
Don't think so. The phone won't draw the higher 'AC' charging current unless it sees that the data pins are shorted. If the data pins are shorted, you won't be able to get data out for the HDMI connection.
Basically, while it's nice to have only one port to keep things simple, a separate HDMI port and USB port for charging would have worked better in this case.
Well then I'm returning for a GNex.
If it's tethered via usb to a computer with an HDMI out to TV/receiver can you stream from the Rezound? And would the charge via usb be enough to keep it alive for a movie?
If not then I'm definitely dropping mhs. Connection problems and this issue... Bah.
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Maybe depends on what else was drawing power on your phone. If you turned off everything else, maybe you would have enough charge to stream a movie. My battery was dropping pretty fast, but I didn't try to optimize by turning off mobile data, wireless, etc...
feralicious said:
Well then I'm returning for a GNex.
If it's tethered via usb to a computer with an HDMI out to TV/receiver can you stream from the Rezound? And would the charge via usb be enough to keep it alive for a movie?
If not then I'm definitely dropping mhs. Connection problems and this issue... Bah.
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That would be exactly the same for the same reason, while connected to your wall charger the phone can receive 1000mA and will be in "AC" mode, when connected to your computer or another device which uses the data pins your phone will be in "USB" mode and can only receive 500mA, since your phone is capable of using as much as 1000mA this will not be enough to charge your phone if you are doing anything power intensive like say playing a movie etc. It will only supplement the battery power and keep it from draining so fast.
It should make it through a movie though. I have not tried mhl so I don't know what it draws from the phone. If you instal "battery monitor widget" from the market it will tell you what your draw is and will keep a history log of it with posts every 5 min, try playing a movie then go and check the log and see what it drains on average.
My phone easily makes it through a movie if I start with a fully charged battery, although it does steadily drain it.
As far as the nexus, if anything it is probably even worse with the bigger screen.
~John
does the screen need to be on for MHL output to a monitor or TV?
mc_365 said:
does the screen need to be on for MHL output to a monitor or TV?
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On mine, the screen turns off as soon as it shows on the TV. If you unplug the connection, phone screen comes back on.
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jmorton10 said:
My phone easily makes it through a movie if I start with a fully charged battery, although it does steadily drain it.
As far as the nexus, if anything it is probably even worse with the bigger screen.
~John
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Are you using the phone to watch? Meaning is your screen on? It would seem that's the only way the screen size would matter. If you brought up the nexus due to my comment it was just a joke because of all the warring threads. I'm in love with the Rezound.
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it charging. How can I fix this issue.
webb7735 said:
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it charging. How can I fix this issue.
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Car chargers work much slower than a wall charger because of the output of it. If you have the screen on, using gps, and listening to music at the same time it won't charge or it will actually drain.
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webb7735;4216o87 said:
My car charger doesn't charge my note 2 although it acts like it chargine. How can I fix this issue.
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pp
Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheap 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require. Also, don't forget to chech your usb cable. It may look fine, but could be stretched or damaged causing a bad charge connection. But definitely avoid cheap car chargers. Not only can they work sporadically, they may actually damage your phone.
MUOTE=BoostedB18C;42146532]Car chargers work much slower than a wall charger because of the output of it. If you have the screen on, using gps, and listening to music at the same time it won't charge or it will actually drain.[/QUOTE]
I have tried charging my phone with it turned off when its charging in my car i dont use it i just let it charge but it doesnt work. Its ok not a big deal i can charge it at home and get a good day and a half on a full charge. I was just wondering if there was a way to fix it.
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Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheal 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require.
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Thanks for the info. I will try that.
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Probably, the car charger is putting out just enough amps to activate charging mode, but not enough to charge with any discernable speed
I would look for a more reputable charger brand. I have found that cheapie chargers just don't perform well. Especially with the 2 amp requirement our devices need. A 1 amp verizon mobile charger with the micro usb factory attached and ment realistically for my wife's s3 1 amp requirement is adequate to provide a stable but long charge time for my note 2. Remember, some power distribution is lost simply in the usb connection between a cheap 1 amp charger and the usb cable plugged into it. Another useful addition for mobile charging would be an ac/dc inverter that allows your factory home 2 amp charger to plug into your vehicle. That would be reasonably clean 110 v ac to dc at 2 amp from your genuine samsung home charger. Better chance of getting the charging capacity you require. Also, don't forget to chech your usb cable. It may look fine, but could be stretched or damaged causing a bad charge connection. But definitely avoid cheap car chargers. Not only can they work sporadically, they may actually damage your phone.
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This, I just didn't feel like explaining it all. Also using an inverter can cause problems with strain on the electrical load of the vehicle though. If you have a big truck, they are safe to use. If you have a civic, I wouldn't use one.
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webb7735 said:
Thanks for the info. I will try that.
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You are most welcome.
BoostedB18C said:
This, I just didn't feel like explaining it all. Also using an inverter can cause problems with strain on the electrical load of the vehicle though. If you have a big truck, they are safe to use. If you have a civic, I wouldn't use one.
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I used one all the time when I had my Civic Si to power mine and a friends laptops when in town, we didn't have high speed at our houses and the provider wanted 50k to bring it, and I never experienced any issues with electrical strain. Im not saying it doesn't happen but with the newer vehicles it isn't that much of an issue.
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shangrila500 said:
I used one all the time when I had my Civic Si to power mine and a friends laptops when in town, we didn't have high speed at our houses and the provider wanted 50k to bring it, and I never experienced any issues with electrical strain. Im not saying it doesn't happen but with the newer vehicles it isn't that much of an issue.
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Thanks for the info.
How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
Make sure the charger is 2.1 amp...if its a 1 amp, the combo of GPS, data, and screen on will still kill it.
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How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
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Yup, totally depends on the charger. Some cheap ones are only .5A and most are 1A, which probably still isnt enough when using GPS and screen on.
SOCOM-HERO said:
How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
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Do yourself a favor and buy mandatory this quality accessories. After you do, forget your question
Car charger:
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Dual...=1407899058&sr=8-3&keywords=anker+car+charger
USB charging cable:
http://www.amazon.com/2-1A-30PIN-Ch...=UTF8&qid=1407899014&sr=8-6&keywords=kopi+usb
czaplin said:
Do yourself a favor and buy mandatory this quality accessories. After you do, forget your question
USB charging cable:
http://www.amazon.com/2-1A-30PIN-Ch...=UTF8&qid=1407899014&sr=8-6&keywords=kopi+usb
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How is an old iPhone charger going to help anyone with a G3? Also, what is "this quality"? I think you might've lost or misspelled a word there.
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How is an old iPhone charger going to help anyone with a G3? Also, what is "this quality"? I think you might've lost or misspelled a word there.
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Sorry, bad link.
Here's correct one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009Z...2e07d400f0894e43b48&pi=SS115#ref=pd_aw_sims_1
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I had this problem starting all the way back on Galaxy Nexus - crappy chargers and cables do not provide enough power to run the phone and the screen. My research and trial and error on many chargers lead me to understand that not only do you need a good high power charger, you need a good cable too. I now run 18awg charge-only cables exclusively as well as a 2.1amp charger. This pair has worked on all my devices since including fast charging on my G2 and G3.
Note that a charge-only USB cable has the data pair shorted and will only work for charging - will not work for data transfer. However the wires inside are thick and work great cars or other situations where you don't need the cable for data.
This is what I use:
Cable
http://www.netimes.com/shop/microusb-charging-cable-black-d-d-shorted18awg100cm-p-3699.html
Charger
http://www.netimes.com/shop/dual-usb-car-charger-adapter-10a-21a-white-p-4810.html
This company is from Hong Kong, but they have pretty fast shipping. It is the only place where I can find (affordable) heavy gauge USB cables.
Same Issue
SOCOM-HERO said:
How is this even possible? While using NAV, my G3 is plugged into the car charger is still decreasing in battery life. Albeit slower than when not charging, but it still goes down even though it is charging. What gives?
Using a charger bought at VZW.
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I had the same issue with a store-bought charger. It also depends on the amperage output of your vehicle's outlet as well.
If anyone is looking for one with a retractable cable, I bought this one:
http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Micr...=8-2&keywords=2.1+amp+usb+charger+retractable