[Q] ICS on REALLY low-end device? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello.
Is it possible to port/compile/get working somehow ICS on a device that runs only Froyo? I mean, the only available and supported ROM is Froyo. If it is possible, how can I start with getting ICS working on it? Just compile ICS and pack needed drivers and libs into it?
This device is GSmart G1317D with small amount of RAM and 240x400 screen.

wojtal said:
Hello.
Is it possible to port/compile/get working somehow ICS on a device that runs only Froyo? I mean, the only available and supported ROM is Froyo. If it is possible, how can I start with getting ICS working on it? Just compile ICS and pack needed drivers and libs into it?
This device is GSmart G1317D with small amount of RAM and 240x400 screen.
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It would be possible however drivers are not as simple as taking them from froyo, ICS require its own drivers different to those found in froyo so porting drivers becomes a really pain

zacthespack said:
It would be possible however drivers are not as simple as taking them from froyo, ICS require its own drivers different to those found in froyo so porting drivers becomes a really pain
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I see. I've used Google for a while and I found a similar model to this phone but with ICS. It's only with a bit faster processor and a bit bigger screen. Is it possible to port that ROM to this phone? That phone is G1342 from the same manefacturer.

wojtal said:
I see. I've used Google for a while and I found a similar model to this phone but with ICS. It's only with a bit faster processor and a bit bigger screen. Is it possible to port that ROM to this phone? That phone is G1342 from the same manefacturer.
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if the likes of the wifi chip etc are the same its possible yes

zacthespack said:
if the likes of the wifi chip etc are the same its possible yes
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The problem is that GSmart didn't show any deeper specs of its devices. How can I check it by myself?

wojtal said:
The problem is that GSmart didn't show any deeper specs of its devices. How can I check it by myself?
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This app should help get some info https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.electricsheep.asi, the rest your best bet is to hunt google

zacthespack said:
This app should help get some info https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.electricsheep.asi, the rest your best bet is to hunt google
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Ok, I'll look for those info. Thank you.

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[Q] wp7?

are we ever going to have wp7 on our tg01 ? just because we dont have the 3 buttons and the capacitive screen on our tg01 does that mean we cant have wp7? i mean we still have a powerful 1ghz snapdragon cpu and a decent ram. surely there is a way around this little problem.
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
are we ever going to have wp7 on our tg01 ? just because we dont have the 3 buttons and the capacitive screen on our tg01 does that mean we cant have wp7? i mean we still have a powerful 1ghz snapdragon cpu and a decent ram. surely there is a way around this little problem.
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No. Anyway nokser who 'apparently' got wp7 working has sold his tg01 and moved on like Others. Still is a great device and served me well. I use it as a handy backup now for data.
olyloh6696 said:
No. Anyway nokser who 'apparently' got wp7 working has sold his tg01 and moved on like Others. Still is a great device and served me well. I use it as a handy backup now for data.
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yes, i want sold my tg01, because i want buy Riff box J-tag - for porting WP7 etc...
I have still tg01
Toshiba Regza T-01C/ tg03 sd rom
h ttp://spf.fmworld.net/update/nttdocomo/t-01c/update1
qinwengui said:
Toshiba Regza T-01C/ tg03 sd rom
h ttp://spf.fmworld.net/update/nttdocomo/t-01c/update1
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This is a Android
Nokser said:
This is a Android
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Maybe help to Android!
need help? the rom deskey??
cedesmith tgtool ??
qinwengui said:
Maybe help to Android!
need help? the rom deskey??
cedesmith tgtool ??
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what you mean???
yeah ither android or wp7 is good really i have noticed android developement has slowed down tho or maybe even stopped i dont know but if thats true why leave something half finnished? haave the developers for android just quit?
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
yeah ither android or wp7 is good really i have noticed android developement has slowed down tho or maybe even stopped i dont know but if thats true why leave something half finnished? haave the developers for android just quit?
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android development stopped way back in november-december. i doubt it would ever continue progress. nowadays, the hd2 devs have moved on, so i doubt you would see them coming back to develop for older devices.
Cotulla is the best dev around, who wasthe main hd2 porter for wp7 and android. and he also ported android for the hd mini.
anyway, even if android is finished, there will still be many problems, like poor battery life due to the kernel not built for the specific device etc. the hd2 even with amdroid/wp7 isnt perfect. it sucks up battery twice as fast as wm. so imagine that on tg01's....

Qualcomm Releases Adreno 2xx GPU Binaries for ICS

This looks interesting. Will this help others to port ICS to the Streak?
lunadomain said:
This looks interesting. Will this help others to port ICS to the Streak?
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please add the source
thanks, nice info
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/qualcomm-releases-adreno-2xx-gpu-binaries-for-ics/
ivantastic said:
please add the source
thanks, nice info
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Here it is.........
GPU driver source was one of the major things missing to port newer roms to the S5, but the S5 is still missing many more things to be able to get a source level port of roms (ie the source for other drivers)
At least hypothecially if used to port CM9/etc to the S5 at least it could get GPU acceleration so everything either works fast or doesnt work at all.
There's still other things though, I dont recall touchscreen driver source being available, and the touchscreen controller on the S5 is rather uncommon(?)
so these two?
Pixcir's Tango S32 microcontroller
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And/Or
Atmel's ATmega168P 8-bit AVR microcontroller
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The Notion Ink Adam use the same drivers: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Tegra/NotionInk/Adam/HardwareSpecifications
and there is a pre-alpha ics rom from notion ink here for the Adam http://conclave.notionink.com/showthread.php?1173-ICS-Android-4.0-alpha-Download-and-Installation
any of these any help? https://github.com/rrathi/adamICS/tree/master/files
So it does, but regardless I'm not an actual rom dev so you'd need to speak with someone else.
DJ_Steve is one of the official(?) devs for the adam, so I assume he already knew this long ago. But even with that there's likely still more missing.
Also obviously it's not just having the soucre, you also gotta glue together the pieces and that's just as much work, I assume it's the actual gluing together of the pieces that was more of an issue with the TS or something. But I'm working off old memory, I could be wrong about all the details.

XPERIA S and Windows 8

So, as our Xperia S is ARM based I thought it would be great to port Windows 8 to Xperia S. It would look great on SONY's HD screen, and all those colorfull Windows 8 tabs would look just fantastic. Let's think of it, and do something.
wouldn't this be so fricking hard to port?
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pretty much impossible since windows is closed source so therefore finding a way to get hardware working is beyond possible.
if you wanted a windows phone you should of brought one , if you want an android phone to look like a windows phone then download W7 Launcher ;0
NO!
You see, android is not that smooth on this phone, it usually hangs, and design is not as good as it should be, I'm SE fan since childhood so I wont by any other phone, but SONY users must have easy choice what OS to install on the phone
Short answer: no. The internals of WinRT are closer to desktop and WinMo8 is very, very hardware dependant. This means that getting any hardware support on that without Microsoft is going to be very, very, EXTREMELY hard.
But, you must admit, that Win8 or Win7 would look great on XS ))) Just imagine it, I'm not fan of Windows phones, I really like android but Dualcore 1.5 Is not enough to run smooth
giorgobiani554 said:
Dualcore 1.5 Is not enough to run smooth
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My 1.2GHz clocked AOKP JB running TF101 says BULL****.
No, really this phones are really slow, that's why we need better OS that uses less memory and cpu, for example when I open browser and music player, my music starts glitching and sometimes phone even hangs, its very stupid for 1GB ram phone, so lets do something about porting Windows, or something like that.
giorgobiani554 said:
No, really this phones are really slow, that's why we need better OS that uses less memory and cpu, for example when I open browser and music player, my music starts glitching and sometimes phone even hangs, its very stupid for 1GB ram phone, so lets do something about porting Windows, or something like that.
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It's not because the phone is unable to run Android, it's because of bugs in Sony's firmware. CM10 is very fast for me and capable of running 5-10 apps with music in the background and zero stutter.
Android is smooth as butter on my XS running FXP131 CM9, There was nothing really wrong with it on the stock firmware except that Sony somehow felt the need to leave out WiFi Direct, If you want Windows phone, Go and buy a windows phone, The XS is way overpowered for it.
giorgobiani554 said:
No, really this phones are really slow, that's why we need better OS that uses less memory and cpu, for example when I open browser and music player, my music starts glitching and sometimes phone even hangs, its very stupid for 1GB ram phone, so lets do something about porting Windows, or something like that.
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There's a fix for that stutter... Works on every single rom...
Go to system and change in build.prop the following values:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=32m
dalvik.vm.heapsize=64m
Save and reboot...
Enjoy!!!
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You see, there is one problem about it, SONY XPERIA S is not a cheap phone, when I pay a lot of money for it, is should work as smooth as watch, developer must do it's best to solve those firmware bugs, and SONY is just ignoring all our requests.
giorgobiani554 said:
You see, there is one problem about it, SONY XPERIA S is not a cheap phone, when I pay a lot of money for it, is should work as smooth as watch, developer must do it's best to solve those firmware bugs, and SONY is just ignoring all our requests.
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They are not. A firmware update is being tested as we speak.
K900 said:
A firmware update is being tested as we speak.
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Anymore info ?
cracksquirrel said:
Anymore info ?
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Fixes, fixes, moar fixes.
K900 said:
Fixes, fixes, moar fixes.
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How do you know ? Got a link to anything ? I looked on Sony website and couldn't find anything.
cracksquirrel said:
How do you know ? Got a link to anything ? I looked on Sony website and couldn't find anything.
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I have my sources. And my sources have yet to fail me.
K900 said:
I have my sources. And my sources have yet to fail me.
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do you have any info about fixes?
are they going to fix bravia engine in next release?
Daniel_GB said:
do you have any info about fixes?
are they going to fix bravia engine in next release?
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Should be general stability and the WiFi to 3G transition is fixed, will check Bravura Engine later.
K900 said:
Should be general stability and the WiFi to 3G transition is fixed, will check Bravura Engine later.
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What about WiFi Direct, Will they include that in the update ?

[Q] Any news on Android on Mozart ?

Any news on Android on Mozart or throw it away this nice piece of hardware ?
kyliem2000 said:
Any news on Android on Mozart or throw it away this nice piece of hardware ?
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Better buy an android device if you like it so much
kyliem2000 said:
Any news on Android on Mozart or throw it away this nice piece of hardware ?
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Developers will need to work hard a lot to run Android on Mozart, it's not worth the trouble since Mozart hardware is not so nice,it doesn't even have a SD card slot. If you like Android buy a Dual core or Quad core Android phone. I am waiting for windows phone 7.8 custom ROM for Mozart.
kyliem2000 said:
Any news on Android on Mozart or throw it away this nice piece of hardware ?
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hi! if you want you can throw it away to my home, i dont mind!!
paulosaints said:
hi! if you want you can throw it away to my home, i dont mind!!
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hahahaha... i would come in person to pick it up :angel:
Mozart is a great phone, We don't need android we need more custom apps. In android you have 100 apps to do the same thin. in WP7 were is a feel of limitation in some areas.
Problem solved
Sold it today this piece of s... and i bought it Samsung Galaxy S2 with proper system.
kyliem2000 said:
Sold it today this piece of s... and i bought it Samsung Galaxy S2 with proper system.
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Thanks for sharing your well reasoned oppinion. Farewell.
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You should really consider installing android port. Even if it will be done android will be very laggy because of GPU and CPU and RAM, you need to have quad core CPU and 1GB RAM to make android work like WP7. That's totally lagged system, i have android tablet so i know.

[Q] Jelly Bean Specs

So I was wondering about Android Jelly Bean, here are my phone specs:
512 MB ROM
256 MB RAM
CPU MTK6573 650MHz+ARM116-507MHz
Android 2.3.4
if there is anything more you need to know, I will reply, since i can't post outside links.
Now what i wanted to know is if my phone could support Android Jelly Bean, if it can, how can I install it.
I really hope that answers won't be something like "I don't know" or "you can't install it"
If anyone can help me, please do. Much appreciated.
Kung-Fu-Panda said:
So I was wondering about Android Jelly Bean, here are my phone specs:
512 MB ROM
256 MB RAM
CPU MTK6573 650MHz+ARM116-507MHz
Android 2.3.4
if there is anything more you need to know, I will reply, since i can't post outside links.
Now what i wanted to know is if my phone could support Android Jelly Bean, if it can, how can I install it.
I really hope that answers won't be something like "I don't know" or "you can't install it"
If anyone can help me, please do. Much appreciated.
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Well... you can... as long as your device has a custom rom that run based on CM10... and a swap partition with at least 512 MB ram.
LG gt540 has the same specs and it can run ICS (dunno about JB).
cathaclac said:
Well... you can... as long as your device has a custom rom that run based on CM10... and a swap partition with at least 512 MB ram.
LG gt540 has the same specs and it can run ICS (dunno about JB).
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I read that JB demands even less than ICS, so new question:
What the hell is CM10, how can I check if I have it, or install it (if it is possible), and
What "swap partition" are you talking about, what is that?
As a PC engineer, I have to say that I have no ****ing clue what you just wrote.
If you're phones not popular enough chances are you won't be able to get jelly bean, purely because no developers have made a ROM for it.
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NIMBAH said:
If you're phones not popular enough chances are you won't be able to get jelly bean, purely because no developers have made a ROM for it.
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Well my phone is from China, a site called Dhgate
I wouldn't agree with you considering that you can find plenty of phones with both JB and ICS
Kung-Fu-Panda said:
Well my phone is from China, a site called Dhgate
I wouldn't agree with you considering that you can find plenty of phones with both JB and ICS
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How do you expect to find a JB rom for your phone if nobody has developed for it ? You haven't even given the name of it.
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NIMBAH said:
How do you expect to find a JB rom for your phone if nobody has developed for it ? You haven't even given the name of it.
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You're right, I'm sorry. My phone name is X15i you can find it on Dhgate, just add this:
/x15i-4-3-inch-quad-band-android-2-3-capacitive/p-ff808081353bfcc301355fff686e1141.html
I thought considering that one android version can be installed on all sorts of phones the specs of my phone would be enough, since it doesn't have a company manufacturer (samsung, lg, etc.) but a Chinese phone. If they can install Android operating systems on other Chinese phones, I'm sure that there is a way for me to install another Android on my phone.
On a computer, when you install an OS, you don't look for manufacturers and developers, you look for hardware specifications. You can't install Windows 8 on a Pentium III and expect it to run smoothly, instead you put Windows 95.
The problem is I don't know whether JB is Win 8 or Win 95 and will my phone support it.
It all depends whether someone port jellybean to your device.
BTW which device do you own
Kung-Fu-Panda said:
I read that JB demands even less than ICS, so new question:
What the hell is CM10, how can I check if I have it, or install it (if it is possible), and
What "swap partition" are you talking about, what is that?
As a PC engineer, I have to say that I have no ****ing clue what you just wrote.
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CM10 is a custom after market firmware based on Android 4.1 It's basically JB with a lot of features and improvements. You can check if anyone has made it by using Google. Also it doesn't matter what company made the phone, but if no developer made a custom JB ROM for it then you're out of luck. With Android it's a bit different than with computers as far as OS installation goes. And for your swap question, the windows counterpart would be Page file.
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Kung-Fu-Panda said:
You're right, I'm sorry. My phone name is X15i you can find it on Dhgate, just add this:
/x15i-4-3-inch-quad-band-android-2-3-capacitive/p-ff808081353bfcc301355fff686e1141.html
I thought considering that one android version can be installed on all sorts of phones the specs of my phone would be enough, since it doesn't have a company manufacturer (samsung, lg, etc.) but a Chinese phone. If they can install Android operating systems on other Chinese phones, I'm sure that there is a way for me to install another Android on my phone.
On a computer, when you install an OS, you don't look for manufacturers and developers, you look for hardware specifications. You can't install Windows 8 on a Pentium III and expect it to run smoothly, instead you put Windows 95.
The problem is I don't know whether JB is Win 8 or Win 95 and will my phone support it.
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When you install Windows on a PC you have access to multiple drivers (even generic ones) for all the hardware that comprises the PC, no driver then that piece of hardware won't function. An Android build includes the necessary "drivers" for a specific device so you need a build built specifically for your device for everything to work.
Your phone, by looking at specs would not support Jelly Bean. The processor isn't fast enough to run it very smooth in my opinion. As said before, swap partition (windows page file) would fix the RAM issue because JB would never be able to run on only 256MB. Look around on Google for a ROM for your phone but honestly, the most I see your phone running smoothly and without problem based off its specs is Gingerbread and MAYBE Honeycomb but that's it.
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Shawn said:
Your phone, by looking at specs would not support Jelly Bean. The processor isn't fast enough to run it very smooth in my opinion. As said before, swap partition (windows page file) would fix the RAM issue because JB would never be able to run on only 256MB. Look around on Google for a ROM for your phone but honestly, the most I see your phone running smoothly and without problem based off its specs is Gingerbread and MAYBE Honeycomb but that's it.
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The specs aren't that bad to be honest. Its a dual core/CPU phone and there are single core 600MHz phones running ICS just fine.
RAM is definitely and issue although even with 256MB it should run okay provided you don't use too many apps. My old X8 runs ICS and JB decently with only 192MB usable RAM. And Thad bit about honeycomb is irrelevant seeing as its a tablet OS.
Have a look around on the Chinese forums, there should be a ROM lying around or at least instructions on how to root
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Also it's impossible to run a Honeycomb ROM simply because there aren't any. Google never released the source for it.
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nerot said:
Also it's impossible to run a Honeycomb ROM simply because there aren't any. Google never released the source for it.
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No it got released along with ICS. One of our devs even managed to make a honeycomb ROM for the X8 lol.
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Android aint like a pc you that can install any os. Android phones need os like ics or jellybean to be made by the phone manufacturer. If there's a dev for it, it can make a custom one like cm10,aokp, or muie, by hacking it, to run all hardware in phone.
Technically the stock honeycomb version is a ROM. Also, I know it's a tablet OS but I'm saying from a hardware specification perspective it would run it. And as said, source was released.
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