It is a weird problem. Not a killing one, but still it's absurd.
How would I know that my phone is sleeping (standby) or completely shut down (off)?
You may say, just press the power button on backside. But if I do that, that's going to turn on the phone anyway if it was off.
I want to know without turning the phone on whether the phone is actually off or not.
Any idea guys? Any way to find out?
[PS: This is my first post. ]
binokary said:
It is a weird problem. Not a killing one, but still it's absurd.
How would I know that my phone is sleeping (standby) or completely shut down (off)?
You may say, just press the power button on backside. But if I do that, that's going to turn on the phone anyway if it was off.
I want to know without turning the phone on whether the phone is actually off or not.
Any idea guys? Any way to find out?
[PS: This is my first post. ]
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When you press shortly on the power botton- if the phone is sleeping the screen will turn on to the lock screen, if the phone is off it will turn on to the red M initial screen.
That is a really weird question, why should you ask it? if you turned your phone off it is off, if you just turned the screen off it is asleep (shhhh, don't disturb him :silly: )
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I don't want to disturb him, that's what I want.
Moonshield said:
When you press shortly on the power botton- if the phone is sleeping the screen will turn on to the lock screen, if the phone is off it will turn on to the red M initial screen.
That is a really weird question, why should you ask it? if you turned your phone off it is off, if you just turned the screen off it is asleep (shhhh, don't disturb him :silly: )
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If the phone was sleeping, I would know as it will show lock screen when I press the power button. But if it was off and I press the power button, it will turn on the phone. And I don't want that. I just want to know whether the phone is off, and if it is off I don't want to disturb him.
In other phones, they have separate unlock button, here it is combined with power. That's the problem. But moto could have made long press for turn on and short press for unlock. I think there is no solution to my problem. :crying: Thanks anyways.
binokary said:
If the phone was sleeping, I would know as it will show lock screen when I press the power button. But if it was off and I press the power button, it will turn on the phone. And I don't want that. I just want to know whether the phone is off, and if it is off I don't want to disturb him.
In other phones, they have separate unlock button, here it is combined with power. That's the problem. But moto could have made long press for turn on and short press for unlock. I think there is no solution to my problem. :crying: Thanks anyways.
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Call your number?
Plug in the headset and press the headset button?
Plug in the charger?
Pair it with wifi/bluetooth and see if connection is alive from paired device?
I'm sure there are hundreds of other creative ways to find out whether the phone is off or on standby without pressing the power button.
binokary said:
If the phone was sleeping, I would know as it will show lock screen when I press the power button. But if it was off and I press the power button, it will turn on the phone. And I don't want that. I just want to know whether the phone is off, and if it is off I don't want to disturb him.
In other phones, they have separate unlock button, here it is combined with power. That's the problem. But moto could have made long press for turn on and short press for unlock. I think there is no solution to my problem. :crying: Thanks anyways.
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I know what you mean, like in the Nokia 700 (or any symbian phones), there are two seperate buttons, where the lock button does not switch on the phone, but instead the power button does. I know some Android devices need a long press to switch on, while a short press does nothing while off, but Motorola doesn't use this "feature".
Sent from that Atrix.
If you use a CM based rom you can set the volume rocker to wake the phone. If you use a blur based rom you can install an app from the play that does the same.
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Thanks!
Moonshield said:
If you use a CM based rom you can set the volume rocker to wake the phone. If you use a blur based rom you can install an app from the play that does the same.
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Thanks Moonshield, that was what I wanted! :laugh:
what is asleep mode?
i only know 3 situations:
1. powered on - locked (screen is off)
2. powered on - unlocked (screen is on)
3. powered off.
quetzalcoatl2435 said:
Call your number?
Plug in the headset and press the headset button?
Plug in the charger?
Pair it with wifi/bluetooth and see if connection is alive from paired device?
I'm sure there are hundreds of other creative ways to find out whether the phone is off or on standby without pressing the power button.
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Or how about wake up with volume and that would fix everything its easy and takes 2 seconds to do.
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Or use light flow app and turn on a led indicator for phone signal.
unforgivenmercy said:
Or how about wake up with volume and that would fix everything its easy and takes 2 seconds to do.
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Yep, but it's not available on stock ROM.
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Is there a way to disable the menu option when long pressing the power button when the phone is in lock mode?
My phone is switching its self off sometimes while in my pocket.
I have tried widget locker but that does the same as the stock screen and still offers this menu while the phone is locked.
I'm using Redmi Note 8 pro Miui 12 Global Rom Android 10 i not found the option sec_key.kl
I can't answer your question directly other than to say you may be blaming the wrong thing - is it really possible that you can keep sustained preasure on the switch for about 8 seconds?
Is it possible that your phone may be rebooting / hanging / freezing in your pocket like mine and many others are?
Have a look here and here to start
Two seconds is enough in my stock lockscreen. So it's very much possible.
Stupid how the shutdown-window is accessible through the lockscreen. Takes away the whole function of this so called lockscreen..
prodygee said:
Two seconds is enough in my stock lockscreen. So it's very much possible.
Stupid how the shutdown-window is accessible through the lockscreen. Takes away the whole function of this so called lockscreen..
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I agree. For me, it's just under a second. I mean come on. Really?
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Two seconds is enough in my stock lockscreen. So it's very much possible.
Stupid how the shutdown-window is accessible through the lockscreen. Takes away the whole function of this so called lockscreen..
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But you then have to select "Power off" and then click "OK". Are you suggesting that's happening in your pocket?
naddie said:
I agree. For me, it's just under a second. I mean come on. Really?
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Tapping or pressing thepower button will bring the swipe screen / lock screen back but this does not stitch off the phone!
From OFF, if I press and hold the power switch, the lock screen comes on, then goes off after 5 seconds. At this point, the phone has not shut down.
From OFF, if I hold the button down for about 9 seconds, it does shut down.
As I said, I don't think this is all that easy to do by accident - maybe even impossible! BTW, my phone is stock.
I'd still say it's the dreaded phantom rebooter
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But you then have to select "Power off" and then click "OK". Are you suggesting that's happening in your pocket?
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Never mind, you're right about that. I stand corrected. It takes a lot of effort to shut your phone off with the power button, so that can't be the reason OP's phone is shutting off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098981
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098981
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Thanks very much for this
Just removed the wake option from the power button.
To answer a few other posts. The few times it has switched off it has only been while in my jacket pocket. Carrying my niece, seat belt on/off etc. I know it appears difficult to replicate but I have not had any other issues like mentioned in the other forums linked in post 2.
The reason I think its the power button is because I have taken my phone out of my pocket recently and noticed that the menu to shut down has been visable on the screen. I haven't had an issue of it turning off while on a desk etc which is why I think its the power button.
I may be wrong and if it carries on turning off I will look at other options but I do think its silly (how ever hard to replicate) that an option to access the shut down menu while in lock mode is stupid.
By removing the option to wake from the power button and setting widgetlocker to block homehelper there is no way to access the menu the power button had until the phone is unlocked. Which is how the lock screen should work regardless of if it solves my problem or not.
For SGS2 users, I used Root Explorer to edit:
Code:
/System/usr/keylayout/sec_key.kl
I found the following line:
Code:
key 116 POWER WAKE
To disable the Power button from waking up your device, simple delete the word 'WAKE', save the file, and reboot.
Cheers to the others in the HD2 thread for the tip.
same problem with galaxy w
jonamafun said:
For SGS2 users, I used Root Explorer to edit:
Code:
/System/usr/keylayout/sec_key.kl
I found the following line:
Code:
key 116 POWER WAKE
To disable the Power button from waking up your device, simple delete the word 'WAKE', save the file, and reboot.
Cheers to the others in the HD2 thread for the tip.
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i have the same phantom restart problem......but i cant access the phone to use the root explorer ....wat should i do????
Hi all i made an app to avoid this, blocking power menu on lockscreen no need of root working on 2.2+ and you can set up a custom menu (power and reboot need root) so you should take a look and if you like please leave a 5 stars, or let me know any issues
Play Store Link
zen kun said:
Hi all i made an app to avoid this, blocking power menu on lockscreen no need of root working on 2.2+ and you can set up a custom menu (power and reboot need root) so you should take a look and if you like please leave a 5 stars, or let me know any issues
Play Store Link
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Nice, this was exactly what I was looking for on my Nexus 4 running 4.3 and Cerberus. Unfortunately only the power off menu is disabled (it just flashes for a millisecond) but long pressing the power button still shuts off the phone...
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itenos said:
Nice, this was exactly what I was looking for on my Nexus 4 running 4.3 and Cerberus. Unfortunately only the power off menu is disabled (it just flashes for a millisecond) but long pressing the power button still shuts off the phone...
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yeah, i cant do anything without change whole rom :/ its just a workaround :/
Hi guys, I got the HTC Legend, and I'm finding it a pain to have to press on the lock button every time to wake it from sleep and so I want to be able to wake it by pressing on the optical trackpoint or any of the capacitive buttons as well.
It really frustrates me sometimes if I forget I've turned it off already and I try to wake it, so I press the power button, and it boots up instead and I have to wait for it to turn on only to turn it off again.
If anyone knows any solution please help me. It's driving me insane. On the iPhone I could just press the home button to wake and it wouldn't turn on the phone if it's off. I'm on stock Froyo 2.2 with sense UI, not rooted. Would prefer not to root and definitely not install a new ROM as it is not my phone and I don't want to mess with it too much. Thanks.
you could use an app like widgetlocker to achieve this. link to market
I'm curious, how the phone turns off when u press the power button to unlock the screen.
Do you have the lock screen setup? It should not be able to turn off untill screen is unlocked then the power button pressed and held again.
sent from my legend, currently using extream legend fuse™
jellymelly said:
Hi guys, I got the HTC Legend, and I'm finding it a pain to have to press on the lock button every time to wake it from sleep and so I want to be able to wake it by pressing on the optical trackpoint or any of the capacitive buttons as well.
It really frustrates me sometimes if I forget I've turned it off already and I try to wake it, so I press the power button, and it boots up instead and I have to wait for it to turn on only to turn it off again.
If anyone knows any solution please help me. It's driving me insane. On the iPhone I could just press the home button to wake and it wouldn't turn on the phone if it's off. I'm on stock Froyo 2.2 with sense UI, not rooted. Would prefer not to root and definitely not install a new ROM as it is not my phone and I don't want to mess with it too much. Thanks.
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Trackball waking cannot be done via froyo sense! If you are willing to root your phone then flash Cm 7.1 as your rom. Then you can go to settings to activate trackball waking.
Other than that you can look around the market for apps that allow this.
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ranger4740 said:
I'm curious, how the phone turns off when u press the power button to unlock the screen.
Do you have the lock screen setup? It should not be able to turn off untill screen is unlocked then the power button pressed and held again.
sent from my legend, currently using extream legend fuse™
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what I meant was to unlock the screen while the phone is on by pressing any button apart from the power button, because at night I turn off my phone (the normal way), then I forget if I've turned it off or not, so I press the power button again, and then the startup screen appears - Sh*t! so I have to wait for it to turn on again so I can turn it off.
So essentially I want to press the capacitive buttons or trackpoint so that
1. It will unlock the phone if it is on.
2. It will not turn on the phone if it is off
ranger4740 said:
I'm curious, how the phone turns off when u press the power button to unlock the screen.
Do you have the lock screen setup? It should not be able to turn off untill screen is unlocked then the power button pressed and held again.
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what I meant was to unlock the screen while the phone is on by pressing any button apart from the power button, because at night I turn off my phone, then I forget if I've turned it off or not, so I press the power button again, and then the startup screen appears - Sh*t! so I have to wait for it to turn on again so I can turn it off.
mph_aut said:
you could use an app like widgetlocker to achieve this. link to market
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hmm thanks. But when I looked through the comments everyone finds it a huge battery drain... So I'd rather not.
Thanks for the suggestions guys but if anyone knows an app that can does this it'd be great! So frustrating!
So stock rom in locked mode only reacts to pwr? Hmm
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MarkInDaPark said:
So stock rom in locked mode only reacts to pwr? Hmm
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Yep. Not good.
Anyone has solution?
jellymelly said:
Yep. Not good.
Anyone has solution?
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Currently no app except for widget locker and some launchers allow this. The only other way is to root and flash.
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ranger4740 said:
I'm curious, how the phone turns off when u press the power button to unlock the screen.
Do you have the lock screen setup? It should not be able to turn off untill screen is unlocked then the power button pressed and held again.
sent from my legend, currently using extream legend fuse™
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I think what he is saying is that he can't check if the phone is off or not.
Why you don´t use the rom from blay0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866849)? It is based on HTC stock version and has several extensions and wake on trackpad. It is very stable and i had no problems with this rom in the last months.
Hi,
I have an HTC Mozart with 7.10.8107.79. It's got this annoying feature or lack of feature...how do I know when the handset is on or off? I mean I go into a meeting and want the phone off, I hold down the power button, slide down the screen, it's off. I'm then late for my second or third meeting and I rush into the room... I need to know if the phone is off so I don't start ringing... how do I know if it's on or off? If I press the power button the handset starts the rather long power on and I have to wait...and then power down. Surely it should be press and hold, press two buttons, or press twice, or anything that confirms I want to turn the handset on? It really is crazy if this is how it's supposed to function.
Like if i'm in a presentation and the speaker says Please check all phones are off...and then i'm there frigging about ripping the battery out.
It also acts weird when it's charging. I turn it off...it turns itself back on. I'm not as fussed at that but it's still crazy.
I couldn't find anything on internet about this, or an app of some kind. Does it upset others? Is it a possible enhancement for the phone??
Turn it off
Take the Battery out
Charliekrad said:
Turn it off
Take the Battery out
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There's no smilie but i assume you're joking
A more appropriate response would be:
1. Turn it off
2. Get a phone that's fit for purpose
If there was an app that started when the phone was turned on and turned the phone off if a confirmation tap or code wasn't entered by user, I think it would be very useful and popular.
my htc amaze has a broken power button and would flash on and off unless i take out the battery. the power button is gone, but the power sensor is still there. the phone will stay on if i push on the power sensor correctly.
you guys have any advice on fixing this and how much would it cost to repair?
thanks a bunch
have you checked on ebay for any repair parts?
Should be warranty.
yeah i checked around ebay and google for a power ribbon flex, but no luck finding one.
i found this searching around, but does it work for htc amaze? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524858)
heres a picture if it helps:
http://postimage.org/image/hw25joisb/
I used Button Remapper to map the power on/off to the camera button. Never used the camera button anyway.
You can remap the power button to nothing.
dkb218 said:
I used Button Remapper to map the power on/off to the camera button. Never used the camera button anyway.
You can remap the power button to nothing.
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Does it work to turn the phone on when its off? I only ask because I would like to set it up like you did with camcorder button.
Live and Die on this day....
chozyn said:
Does it work to turn the phone on when its off? I only ask because I would like to set it up like you did with camcorder button.
Live and Die on this day....
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It won't be able to, since the power button is assigned to turn on the device. There's one way I know of that you can use to turn the phone on when it's off. It requires a computer though.
You will need 4ext recovery installed. After that, have the phone connected to a computer and then (assuming you have adb drivers set up) type in the following command:
adb reboot
That should boot up the phone.
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Thanks that is great to know!
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chozyn said:
Does it work to turn the phone on when its off? I only ask because I would like to set it up like you did with camcorder button.
Live and Die on this day....
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Sorry for the delay in answer. You can map the power button to whatever button you like. It does turn the phone off and on. I will act exactly as the power button does.
It won't be able to, since the power button is assigned to turn on the device. There's one way I know of that you can use to turn the phone on when it's off. It requires a computer though.
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That's incorrect. Once the cam button is mapped as a power button, it will behave exactly as the power button.
dkb218 said:
Sorry for the delay in answer. You can map the power button to whatever button you like. It does turn the phone off and on. I will act exactly as the power button does.
That's incorrect. Once the cam button is mapped as a power button, it will behave exactly as the power button.
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No it doesn't behave like a power button. Sure it can wake the device and put it to sleep, but it CAN NOT power up the device once it's off. The power button sends a different kind of signal when the phone is off, and cannot be remapped with software means. It's a hardware button that tells the phone to turn on.
Before you go and tell me that it's not true, I even tested it out myself just to be sure and yep, it doesn't power on the device once it's off.
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No it doesn't behave like a power button. Sure it can wake the device and put it to sleep, but it CAN NOT power up the device once it's off. The power button sends a different kind of signal when the phone is off, and cannot be remapped with software means. It's a hardware button that tells the phone to turn on.
Before you go and tell me that it's not true, I even tested it out myself just to be sure and yep, it doesn't power on the device once it's off.
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I stand corrected. I thought he was talking about stand-by off. I also tested if the button works to power on the device and you are correct, it doesn't work.
To the OP. My power button does work if I remove the battery case and press the spot where the battery case button would make contact with the phone. It would seem to be a problem with the button making contact with the phone.
Hi,
My phone has a faulty power button and I'm unable to get it fixed. I've found easy work-arounds for it for locking and unlocking the phone. However, I'm not sure how to turn on the phone if it's switched off.
When I connect the charger, even if the battery is 90% it won't turn on on its own...
njr08 said:
Hi,
My phone has a faulty power button and I'm unable to get it fixed. I've found easy work-arounds for it for locking and unlocking the phone. However, I'm not sure how to turn on the phone if it's switched off.
When I connect the charger, even if the battery is 90% it won't turn on on its own...
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Have you ever solve the problem? I've also the same faulty button..and I don't know how to power on without this button
maranric said:
Have you ever solve the problem? I've also the same faulty button..and I don't know how to power on without this button
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Nope, the only way I could turn it on was to open the back cover (very painful process) and then press the button area with a pin.
Couldn't get it fixed, so I had to change the phone.
I think there are possibilities in rooted phones, but otherwise the best thing to do is to keep a battery alarm at 30% or more, and keep it on charging whenever you can to avoid a power off. In power on, there are many ways of locking the screen in the MI UI.
njr08 said:
Hi,
My phone has a faulty power button and I'm unable to get it fixed. I've found easy work-arounds for it for locking and unlocking the phone. However, I'm not sure how to turn on the phone if it's switched off.
When I connect the charger, even if the battery is 90% it won't turn on on its own...
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njr08 said:
Nope, the only way I could turn it on was to open the back cover (very painful process) and then press the button area with a pin.
Couldn't get it fixed, so I had to change the phone.
I think there are possibilities in rooted phones, but otherwise the best thing to do is to keep a battery alarm at 30% or more, and keep it on charging whenever you can to avoid a power off. In power on, there are many ways of locking the screen in the MI UI.
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Thanks. I installed Blocco Schermo - Simi Studio v.3.21 , a simple app to lock the screen...and when i flagged the option "show in notification area" , the problem magically disappeared.. The Power On/Off button started to work again. I think it was an hardware problem (because the problem has come up after the phone was at the sunlight for hours in my car and went very hot) but now i think it's obviously a software problem.
Hi guys, I got the same problem too. Unfortunately, I drained my batt while playing games. So the problem now is I can't turn it on. Any idea how to turn on the phone without using the power button?
I solved it
Hi guys i solved a problem! You should hold main button + down volume button for 10-20 seconds. Then, when MI Remote opens, stay on the reboot and wait about 3 minutes, then stay on the reboot systems as well. Great work!
just change the volume flexible. its also not took much cost.