Incredibly Persistent Bloatware - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello people!
I've been having this problem for a while now, in fact, it's the very reason I rooted in the first place.
I've asked on other less-active forums, and received no answer at all, so I thought I'd turn to you.
My carrier, Tesco Mobile has bundled two bloatware game demos onto my Huawei Ideos X3 and they are taking up a substantial amount of my already poor internal memory. Unfortunately, after having tried many different ways of removing them, I have had no success. I will list the ways in which I have attempted to remove them in chronological order as far as I can remember (this has been going on for about 4 months now):
The game demos are TBloxxNY and BrickBreaker, if that helps at all >_>
Rooted and downloaded several free root file explorers (such as Android Mate) and attempted to uninstall the game demos - Failed
Installed Titanium Backup & Root Pro to see if it could delete them - Failed (Says "Cannot Locate .apk")
Installed ES File Explorer (said to be better than the others)
- Mounted system as writable
- Found full pathname of the game demo apk's: /cust/tesco/gb/app/brickbreake.apk which is an unusual place for them
- Attempted to delete - Failed
- Managed to locate packages elsewhere and managed to delete them - No effect
Went back to Titanium Backup with a writable system to force remove - Failed
Used Titanium Backup to Freeze the apps so they were unusable - Success!
Tried using Titanium Backup to convert them to user apps - Failed
Scoured Google for someone with a similar problem - Failed
--Left it for ages--
Installed Android Terminal Emulator
Used ES File Explorer to mount system as writable
Used Command Line to remove the file using the correct pathname - Failed
Realised Busybox wasn't actually installed
Installed Busybox, used Busybox installer app to run the mount rw script
Went back to terminal emulator and tried to remove them - Failed
--Fudged up my phone by using "Fix Permissions" in Clockworkmod Recovery--
Restored from previous Nandroid Backup
Booted into Clockworkmod Recovery
Wiped all data, cache and Dalvik
Flashed Eclipse ROM
Game demos are still there.
Attempted most of the above again with Eclipse ROM installed - Failed
Wut. I don't understand how Tesco has managed to jam these demos on there that I just cannot remove.
Someone please help me :crying:
Sorry it's such a long post, but I'm getting to my wit's end here...

Go to Huawei service center and say this : "remove these damn things, and i'll give u 1000 dollars.".
Sent from my wt19i MIUI 2.7.6

I would if I had 1000 dollars XD

Hi, a good way to find where that bloatwares is to use logcat via adb to find the package name of those apps and search in your /system/app.
Via terminal emulator what did you find? Did you get some error when trying delete the apk?

maokalon said:
Hi, a good way to find where that bloatwares is to use logcat via adb to find the package name of those apps and search in your /system/app.
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I find running the command "dumpsys" on the device even better to correlate the app name with its installation files. The output is very verbose, so you'll need to capture the output and look at it with your favourite editor, although.

Oh i know WHERE they are, it's getting rid of them that's the problem... lol the kicker here is that, since the phone is rooted, I don't think I could even go back to Tesco and ask them to remove the bloaters -_-;
Sent by game boy

JC1988AD said:
Oh i know WHERE they are, it's getting rid of them that's the problem... lol the kicker here is that, since the phone is rooted, I don't think I could even go back to Tesco and ask them to remove the bloaters -_-;
Sent by game boy
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There are ways to unroot but you can use a free app called root browser (has an orange folder symbol when installed) to go to the location they are saved and delete the apk files yourself. It can change their read write attributes too in case that is what stops you deleting them.
You can also use an app called system tuner to stop them starting as well so then they at least won't use up ram by auto starting.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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Hi
Easy fix download root browser lite go to CUST then TESCO then GB then APP multi select the 2 annoying TBloxxNY and BrickBreaker apps and delete bingo there gone remove the corpses etc with SD Maid or similar.
Ian

What, wow that... actually worked!
Thank you very much!
But... why did it work? Why did that file explorer work over ES file explorer and all the others?
I don't understand...
Sent using rooted Toastie Breadeos X3 w/EclipseTOM and breadcrumbs enabled.

mistermentality said:
There are ways to unroot but you can use a free app called root browser (has an orange folder symbol when installed) to go to the location they are saved and delete the apk files yourself. It can change their read write attributes too in case that is what stops you deleting them.
You can also use an app called system tuner to stop them starting as well so then they at least won't use up ram by auto starting.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
Sent from my LG P920 using Tapatalk 2
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Is that the one by jrummy or am I missing something because I don't see one with an orange folder icon
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jbrt said:
Is that the one by jrummy or am I missing something because I don't see one with an orange folder icon
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Yes that is it, root browser lite by jrummy. On mine it has an orange folder as its icon but it may have changed in recent updates.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
Sent from my LG P920 using Tapatalk 2

Here's hoping that you still check this forum!
Hi. I have also had space issues with my huawei blaze and after rooting my phone, I followed all the advice mentioned in this post but am still receiving an error message when trying to delete brickbeaker and tbloxxny from /cust/tesco/gb/app using root browser.
I am at my wits end! Do you or anyone else have any idea why these apk's are so persistent and how I can remove them?
Thanks in advance for any advice!

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[A] Can't Defrost apps with Titanium Backup on ICS

I didn't notice anyone had a posted a solution to this problem, so I thought I'd do so in case anyone else ran into it.
I was able to freeze apps fine with Titanium Backup on the latest ICS leak (XXLPB as of right now) but ran into some problems when I wanted to defrost them. Titanium Backup said they were defrosted successfully but they still were listed as frozen and didn't appear in the app drawer.
Here is how to solve the problem:
1. Find /data/system/packages.xml with Root Explorer or an equivalent
2. Make a backup of packages.xml right away in the same folder in case we mess anything up any need to restore it later
3. Copy packages.xml onto the root of your internal or external storage
4. Plug your device into your computer and copy packages.xml from the root of your storage over to your computer
5. Open the packages.xml on your computer with your editor of choice - I suggest Notepad++
6. Search for the string {enabled="2"} (without the { }). Every line ending in this represents a frozen app. The lines should look something like this:
Code:
<package name="com.sec.android.widgetapp.socialhub" codePath="/system/app/SocialHubWidget.apk" nativeLibraryPath="/data/data/com.sec.android.widgetapp.socialhub/lib" flags="1" ft="11b7e237e00" it="11b7e237e00" ut="11b7e237e00" version="1" sharedUserId="10001" [COLOR="Red"]enabled="2"[/COLOR]>
7. Now for every app you wish to unfreeze, replace {enabled="2"} with {enabled="1"} (again, without the {})
7. Save packages.xml, move it back onto your phone's storage, and use Root Explorer or an equivalent to replace your original packages.xml at /data/system/packages.xml with your new one
8. Reboot
Props to olympicchicken for getting me most of the way to the answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20771481&postcount=113
***UPDATE*** Feb 29, 2011
See this post for a way to freeze and unfreeze system apps without messing with the packages.xml file. Thanks polzovotel.
Will doing this then allow titanium backup to freeze/defrost apps as it should, or do I have to do this each time I want to defrost an app?
You will have to do this each time you want to defrost an app.
However, I would imagine it would be pretty trivial for a dev to make an app to automate the process. Unfortunately, I don't have the coding knowledge to do that.
Seems daft I cannot defrost apps on Android 4 in titanium or my tool box just doesn't work.
Not really getting any help from the app developers either!
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With a Galaxy Note running XXLA4 I find the text is {enabled="false"}
Interesting that YouTube, Maps, and a few other apps are marked: {enabled="true"}
Everything worked OK when I just deleted the (enabled="false"} ... Thanks OP
not with some apps
Thanks Jhonny, i did what you said, but still cant defrost some apps i dont know why
i have the same problem!
jotajota82 said:
Thanks Jhonny, i did what you said, but still cant defrost some apps i dont know why
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brandaopj said:
i have the same problem!
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Hmmm, so you both have some apps successfully defrosted using this method and some not. And I'm assuming you have double checked to make sure you did the process correctly and made the changes to the right app references in the file.
I'm just brainstorming here, but can you think of anything that the apps which didn't defrost have in common? Are they all user apps, systems apps, on SD, protected apps,...etc?
cant defrost
umm, first scuse my "english"
maybe something is not function well in my phone
but i think too that the problem are some apps that has variuos services running
have you tried using the gemini app?
thanks
wow thanks johhny
everything works . i did it on my galaxy note
here's what i did:
replace {enabled="true"} with {enabled="1"}
There is a nice option in in the ICS rom itself - to disable/enable applications. So there is no need to deal with the packages.xml file - just use native interface:
For me - working w/o any issues.
polzovotel said:
There is a nice option in in the ICS rom itself - to disable/enable applications. So there is no need to deal with the packages.xml file - just use native interface:
For me - working w/o any issues.
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That is a good solution, but it only works for system apps. Otherwise if it is a user app your only choice is total uninstallation... which is less than ideal in some circumstances.
I thought I found a work around for user apps by using Titanium backup to convert them to system apps so you could disable them through the native interface...but this led to apps disappearing from the system... so it looks like it isn't a viable workaround.
Johnny11 said:
I didn't notice anyone had a posted a solution to this problem, so I thought I'd do so in case anyone else ran into it.
I was able to freeze apps fine with Titanium Backup on the latest ICS leak (XXLPB as of right now) but ran into some problems when I wanted to defrost them. Titanium Backup said they were defrosted successfully but they still were listed as frozen and didn't appear in the app drawer.
Here is how to solve the problem:
1. Find /data/system/packages.xml with Root Explorer or an equivalent
2. Make a backup of packages.xml right away in the same folder in case we mess anything up any need to restore it later
3. Copy packages.xml onto the root of your internal or external storage
4. Plug your device into your computer and copy packages.xml from the root of your storage over to your computer
5. Open the packages.xml on your computer with your editor of choice - I suggest Notepad++
6. Search for the string {enabled="2"} (without the { }). Every line ending in this represents a frozen app. The lines should look something like this:
Code:
<package name="com.sec.android.widgetapp.socialhub" codePath="/system/app/SocialHubWidget.apk" nativeLibraryPath="/data/data/com.sec.android.widgetapp.socialhub/lib" flags="1" ft="11b7e237e00" it="11b7e237e00" ut="11b7e237e00" version="1" sharedUserId="10001" [COLOR="Red"]enabled="2"[/COLOR]>
7. Now for every app you wish to unfreeze, replace {enabled="2"} with {enabled="1"} (again, without the {})
7. Save packages.xml, move it back onto your phone's storage, and use Root Explorer or an equivalent to replace your original packages.xml at /data/system/packages.xml with your new one
8. Reboot
Props to olympicchicken for getting me most of the way to the answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20771481&postcount=113
***UPDATE*** Feb 29, 2011
See this post for a way to freeze and unfreeze system apps without messing with the packages.xml file. Thanks polzovotel.
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Thanks for this thread...just what I needed.
The solution and the tip
Replaced the values from
Code:
enabled="2"
to
Code:
enabled="1"
as instructed and everything went flawlessly...
But I also saw some lines with :
Code:
enabled="3"
What that value "3" stands for?
Thanks
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Hi all,
Check out Titanium Backup 4.8.4 which performs ICS-friendly freezing now. Also in case you cannot defrost an app, check out Power defrost in the Batch menu
They have issued an update which should fix this problem. The logcats I sent must have helped!!
GT I900
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SuperEn20 said:
They have issued an update which should fix this problem. The logcats I sent must have helped!!
GT I900
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It still doesn't work.
this fix is for Samsung ROMS, make sure you have version 4.8.4. I tried it on ICS and it worked fine, I froze and defrosted apps no problem.
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SuperEn20 said:
this fix is for Samsung ROMS, make sure you have version 4.8.4. I tried it on ICS and it worked fine, I froze and defrosted apps no problem.
GT I900
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I'm running Calkulin's ROM based on the ICS leak of FC07 and it doesn't defrost. The toast message says it did, but the app still shows as frozen.
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Power Defrost seems to be the only way to do it.

Problems with root (some apps work, some not)

Hey guys, hate starting new threads, but this time I just had to. Here's the deal:
First I had a Galaxy Ace. I rooted it, and used root normally for a couple of months. Then something went bazzerk (don't know how to spell bazzerk xD), just as it is on my new Xperia neo. My root explorer works flawlessly and I'm able to mount my system r\o / r\w when ever I want and explore all sys files. BUT, my ROM toolbox, GO backup, etc. all apps that actualy "touch" system files (I mean change or retrieve the above), freeze when a command is given. I.e. I want to move an unmovable app to the sd card. The file IS moved, but the app freezes on "loading". GO backup: I restore a file, it's completely restored, but the app frezzes on 99% even though the job's done. Why is this happening, and is there a way to fix it?
Thank you all, and cheers
P.S. This problem sometimes just vanshies, but it's back a few days later.
P.P.S. I tried restarting, taking the battery out, restarting SU, and restarting the freezing apps, nothing erases the problem.
Have to you tried to factory reset in your phones settings?
If you´re rooted check the superuser app and loock at the log
what does superuser state?
Style13 said:
Hey guys, hate starting new threads, but this time I just had to. Here's the deal:
First I had a Galaxy Ace. I rooted it, and used root normally for a couple of months. Then something went bazzerk (don't know how to spell bazzerk xD), just as it is on my new Xperia neo. My root explorer works flawlessly and I'm able to mount my system r\o / r\w when ever I want and explore all sys files. BUT, my ROM toolbox, GO backup, etc. all apps that actualy "touch" system files (I mean change or retrieve the above), freeze when a command is given. I.e. I want to move an unmovable app to the sd card. The file IS moved, but the app freezes on "loading". GO backup: I restore a file, it's completely restored, but the app frezzes on 99% even though the job's done. Why is this happening, and is there a way to fix it?
Thank you all, and cheers
P.S. This problem sometimes just vanshies, but it's back a few days later.
P.P.S. I tried restarting, taking the battery out, restarting SU, and restarting the freezing apps, nothing erases the problem.
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Install root checker from market Nd check whether u r rooted correctly or not
Are you using superuser or supersu app?
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Android311 said:
Have to you tried to factory reset in your phones settings?
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No, I think that would fix it but then I'd have to set back everything on my phone, which I don't want
jiffer1991 said:
If you´re rooted check the superuser app and loock at the log
what does superuser state?
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Superuser says everything's fine. I already mentioned I can see all my root files with no problem. But when another app tries the same, it freezes.
vivek_bhoj said:
Install root checker from market Nd check whether u r rooted correctly or not
Are you using superuser or supersu app?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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Installed, checked. Says it's rooted. I'm using Superuser and it's reporting no problems. Still freezes when an app changes something.
The thing is root works, I mean I can backup\restore app data, freeze apps, etc. but after the phone does this, the app freezes, even though it's done. A very strange problem. Is there anything I could have accidently made to brake it (exept disallowing an app from Superuser rights, I checked that three times; allways allowed) ?
I remember that i faced such problems a few weeks ago...
some root file explorers denied me the acces to the root files while i tried to change a bootanimation
root acces was granted but it didnt worked
afterwards i tried another root file explorer and it worked fine
why ?
i dont know but something went wrong with the first file browser
Try SuperSU v0.95
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Thank you all, it so happened that this version of Superuser didn't quite well support these versions of apps. Just changed the ROM Toolbox to a newer version, and it works perfectly.
:good:
apparently not working after root
noob here, I did my first root today, and have only been an android user for 2 weeks after defecting from apple since the first iphone. I was a jailbreak veteran of idevices, but I got bored with the stale bread, so I spent my taxmas on a Samsung galaxy s4. Specifically wanting the i9500 version so it would be unlocked to use on net10. I followed the steps from website, and video on Odin. And it looked like it worked perfectly. It wasn't until I tried to my photo gallery app to look at some pictures, and it crashed and wouldn't load. I had the same issue with a business calendar issue app that wouldn't open. I tried clearing system cache on gallery app but no luck. I'm afraid I'm in over my own head now, and might want to restore and start from scratch. The first thing I did after rooting was a full Titanium backup. only things that I installed after root was xposed installer and an app within the installer called swipeback.
I would like to know if there is a fix for this, without having to break away from root? Or if I must,how do I know which stock file I need. I know it's i9500ubueMk1 but there's many different regions.. I bought from a best buy in Charlotte . If there isn't a simple fix to fix why my apps aren't working,then the root does more harm than good, and I wanna go back to normal.
Someone please walk me through this!!
thanks
Style13 said:
Hey guys, hate starting new threads, but this time I just had to. Here's the deal:
First I had a Galaxy Ace. I rooted it, and used root normally for a couple of months. Then something went bazzerk (don't know how to spell bazzerk xD), just as it is on my new Xperia neo. My root explorer works flawlessly and I'm able to mount my system r\o / r\w when ever I want and explore all sys files. BUT, my ROM toolbox, GO backup, etc. all apps that actualy "touch" system files (I mean change or retrieve the above), freeze when a command is given. I.e. I want to move an unmovable app to the sd card. The file IS moved, but the app freezes on "loading". GO backup: I restore a file, it's completely restored, but the app frezzes on 99% even though the job's done. Why is this happening, and is there a way to fix it?
Thank you all, and cheers
P.S. This problem sometimes just vanshies, but it's back a few days later.
P.P.S. I tried restarting, taking the battery out, restarting SU, and restarting the freezing apps, nothing erases the problem.
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I had the same problem. Theres nothing wrong with your phone, its the app. Instead of root explorer, download root browser. It works better

Rooted my phone and moved some apps and now I can't install anything. Help?

Hey guys, I'm using the LG Optimus F6 (or D500). I rooted it today and started playing around, and now when I try installing any apk file I get an error saying "[app name] could not be installed. Free up some space and try again", however I have more than enough space on both internal and SD. I have no idea what's going on, and if anyone knows about this I'd thank you forever.
I'm going to list everything I did after rooting just in case it means anything:
Moved a few apps to SD and uninstalled bloatware
Tried to move chrome browser to sd by converting it to user app, and then it disappeared and I can't download it to the market due to "insufficient space"
Changed the boot animation in ROM Toolbox (which didn't work)
I'm not sure what caused it, but the issue appeared after I messed around with chrome with seems like a terrible idea cause I didn't really know very well what I was doing. Has anyone had this issue or know how to fix it? Thank you so much!
What do you mean disappeared? The file must still be there, use es file explorer and search for it.
Otherwise you'll need to flash the kdz for your phone.
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Updating Problem With My Device

Hi everyone I'm having some issues when updating my phone to a new version of android, the phone I have is the Huawei Ascend P2 this morning there was an update available to install to I downloaded it and proceeded to install but during the installation process I got an error and the update was aborted, I tried this several time with the same result I get assert failed: apply_patch_check I know there have been threads about this before and I tried following some of the steps but it never resolved the issue. I have rooted my phone and deleted the browser from my phone using root app delete as it was slow and useless. I saw a guide on there that that required me to download the apk for the app causing the issue and to place it back into the system/app directory I did that but the issue still remains. I also saw another guide that said I have to edit something I tried to follow it but as I'm not so android savvy I didn't understand it and was unable to try it for myself. Any help would be much appreciated from you guys, I know some of you may be annoyed at me by posting a thread about an issue that has been solved before and for that I appologise I have tried some of the suggestions made but still unable to resolve this, any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated.
The error I get is assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/Browser.apk
I have the same problem, an update was released for my phone but it fails the check because of the build.prob. you could try to backup your phone and the do a factory reset on the phone
Factory reset is not going to make the Browser app work.
When you moved it into the /system/app folder, do you remember if you changed the permissions? Since it is a system app, it needs to have different permissions than a regular app from the Play Store. It'd be simple to test - Does the app show up in the app drawer? Can you open it? If not, you either have the wrong version of the Browser.apk or you have not set the permissions to: RW-R-R.
For the build.prop issue - Are you rooted? Have you made any changes to it or installed any apps that would adjust it? This could be for anything from changing the wifi scan interval to memory management apps. If so, then you can grab an unchanged one and copy it to your phone, set permissions, and reboot. Have to make sure it is the right one, or it won't boot at all and you'd need to restore the entire phone. If you have CWM or TWRP then definitely nandroid before attempting anything like that. If you don't understand any of this, then best to get some help and do not attempt yourself.
I havê changed it yes.thats WY i need an unchanged one to compare it.and i AM Also rooted.
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xixorro said:
I havê changed it yes.thats WY i need an unchanged one to compare it.and i AM Also rooted.
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How did you change it? Most tools that edit the build.prop also create a backup. You might search for it with a root explorer. Typically, it'd be labeled like:
build.prop.bak
If that's the case, then rename the modded version and remove the .bak off the original, make sure the permissions are set still and reboot. Other than that, you'll just have to hope someone responds to your request in the P2 thread.
Cant i do a full phone repair? My old Sony had that feature from the PC. It completely erased everything and flash a stock ROM
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I think the only way that they released to the public for updates is the update.app way. I'm sure they have a tool @ a service center. Dunno why they wouldn't put it out. But this is why you don't make changes to the system without backing it up. I take it you don't remember what you changed in the build.prop, just to undo it?

Temporary Root on the Verizon Note Edge

Check out this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/supersu-please-t3110954
I tried it and got temporary root on my Verizon Note Edge. I know it is temporary but at least it is root.
I do not have the developer version btw..
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
sbrownla said:
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
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I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
DV8 said:
I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
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Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
sbrownla said:
Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
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I have tried Root Explorer and it allows me to read and write to the SD card. I have Root Call blocker and that works as well, I have tried Xposed Framework and so far no go, it does a reboot and you will lose root. This is still a work in progress but it looks a lot more promising than a couple of months ago.
I did not use any img files due to mine being a note edge and I think those files are for those who have taken the lollipop upgrade on their Note 4's. Since we have not received the lollipop upgrade to our edge's yet you should be good to at least temporary root because it is only working on KitKat.
I was able to temp root with king root 4.0.1 apk ... and was able to remove bloatware files from: system/app and: system/priv-app but after reboot they are all back.
Update.... after temp rooting. . Install Titanium Backup and Freeze system apps will enable you to "turn off" apps that you otherwise wouldn't be able to disable through the stock app manager in settings menu.
See screenshot below. ...
Screenshot
Screenshot of TouchWiz disabled because I use a different Home Launcher. And YES it keeps disabled through a reboot.
Was able to turn off The KNOX apps as well... seems to keep root longer without rebooting. HOWEVER root doesn't last forever.. meaning apps like Titanium Backup will lose root... and you will have to reboot and run King root again to get temp root to freeze more apps etc.
This is still a work in progress, hopefully the losing root problem will be fixed soon.
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
Mike02z said:
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
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If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
Keep at it guys! I'll join when I get some time tomorrow and Monday
justjayhere said:
If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
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Yup, this worked. All week I was trying to "remove" these applications via tibu but yesterday I just froze them. I still lost root but see everything I froze is still listed as "Turned off" in Application manager. That will do for now, Thanks!
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
NekoShinigami said:
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
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I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
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I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
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You need to long press on the app. Towards the end of the setting that popup you should see the convert to user app setting.
Easiest way I found was to freeze all the apps you don't want, filter for frozen apps then go through the list converting them to user apps
Edit: this doesn't work. They will install themselves back after doing this.
I figured they would come back.. freezing app is as good as it gets for now.
long press or swipe right to get to the additional options. also thank you guys for confirming that for me. i wasnt for sure since I dont have the retail version to test out on.
also i think i remember reading in the note 4 forum that they were able to get it perma deleted by uninstalling all updates then uninstalling the app or something along those lines. I will go back and read it again to be sure of what i read, i may have misread.
I used this method to disable knox and bloatware on my Verizon Edge even without root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/disable-knox-ota-root-t2972263
As far as temp root is concerned using King root, I suppose while on a rooted state, one can make changes to the system such as:
1) Enabling 3rd party apps like ES File Explorer to write to SD card by modifying platform.xml as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
2) Enabling hidden menu (if this is important to you) by modifying /efs/carrier/HiddenMenu file.
Even if you lose root, the changes you made to these files should stick, correct?

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