Hi, newb here very confused about the (cpu) specs on this phone. I checked every where and am finding different results.
On the s3 main topic page, it clearly states "quad-core Exynos 4412 processor 1.40ghz". When I went to the store, and checked sprint's page, it says this phone has a 1.5ghz DUAL CORE processor. Either way, cant complain with a 1.5ghz dual core, considering its prob the fastest thing at the moment,
My (sprint) upgrade has been up since last year this time, and I have been waiting on something that will be future proof for the next 2 years, and I finally acted on it today. Lte, which I dont understand whether its way faster than 4g, but I know lte is prob the route to take.
1280p screen, can deal with that. Now, the quad core processor, which I know will prob have some major drain on the battery, til the Gods here make some really nice uv adjustments, disabling maybe 2 or 3 cores while phone is sleeping, and too much nothing that a bigger batt wont help, worse case scenario.
Now, im assuming games and apps will start being made to handle 4 cores, in the near future, maybe a year from now, so thats why a quad core would be extra handy, for future proofing.
So, my spidey senses tells me that different carriers have different specs? So, whats the true spec for the sprint version?
All the US models are dual core 1.5 GHz S4. The international model is quad core exynos 1.4 GHz. This forum is for international model I9300... There is a separate forum for US models
Thank God for pointing that out, im for certain, that wouldve been a guaranteed brick if I hadve start flashing things from this forum. Dude, I O U!!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_lte-4124.php
CPU 1.5 GHz Scorpion dual-core processor, Adreno 220 GPU, Qualcomm APQ8060 Snapdragon chipset
Hope this helps someone because I'm on the fence on whether or not to swap out...
lonewolf69 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_lte-4124.php
CPU 1.5 GHz Scorpion dual-core processor, Adreno 220 GPU, Qualcomm APQ8060 Snapdragon chipset
Hope this helps someone because I'm on the fence on whether or not to swap out...
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It's simple to me. If you live in a current (or about to activated, already announced) LTE area, do it. If not, then it is a toss up worth up to 85 dollars.
id10terrordfw said:
It's simple to me. If you live in a current (or about to activated, already announced) LTE area, do it. If not, then it is a toss up worth up to 85 dollars.
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food for thought....
I've messed around with a Tmo GSII and the only way I've noticed the difference in speed between it and my At&t GSII was in benchmarking apps such as Quadrant. Running apps and browsing through the UI was at pretty much the same speed so I would tend to agree with the quoted post. With that said, I have no plans to move to the Skyrocket because I'm sure that LTE radio will burn up more battery, besides HSPA+ is fast enough for me.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=4129
it's similar to the T-Mobile one
i'd NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT get it
i heard very bad things about it (yes, 1.5 but i've heard the GPU it's very bad)
dunno man!
The GPU is not bad, just not as good as the Mali-400mp. I am most likely keeping my GS II, however it concerns me that almost all flagship android phones are starting to be 4.5 inches or above.
Quick question. I was reading an article about the HTC One X. It supposedly will come with a tegra 3 quad core processor but not in the US. We will get a Snapdragon S4 dual core so it can have LTE.
Does this mean we are stuck with dual core Snapdragon's in the future? Why can't they add LTE to the Tegra 3? It seems like a pretty big difference in processors. If I were planning on getting the One X I would be pretty disappointed knowing there is a more powerful phone out there. Why do we get gypped compared to overseas??
I guess I'm just saying that there are a ton of different chips out there and I don't wanna be stuck with Snapdragon's forever just to have LTE.
SkizzMcNizz said:
Quick question. I was reading an article about the HTC One X. It supposedly will come with a tegra 3 quad core processor but not in the US. We will get a Snapdragon S4 dual core so it can have LTE.
Does this mean we are stuck with dual core Snapdragon's in the future? Why can't they add LTE to the Tegra 3? It seems like a pretty big difference in processors. If I were planning on getting the One X I would be pretty disappointed knowing there is a more powerful phone out there. Why do we get gypped compared to overseas??
I guess I'm just saying that there are a ton of different chips out there and I don't wanna be stuck with Snapdragon's forever just to have LTE.
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The S4 smokes the Tegra3 in just about every conceivable test. More cores ≠ better performance.
tekhna said:
The S4 smokes the Tegra3 in just about every conceivable test. More cores ≠ better performance.
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This. People have this notion that just because a CPU has more cores that it is going to perform better. That isn't always the case. It has to do with architecture.
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The S4 smokes the Tegra3 in just about every conceivable test. More cores ≠ better performance.
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Cores do help in more simultaneous tasks taking place though, no? So if you're running multiple tasks, the Tegra can handle more of a load than the S4 would be able to?
engsoccerfan said:
Cores do help in more simultaneous tasks taking place though, no? So if you're running multiple tasks, the Tegra can handle more of a load than the S4 would be able to?
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Sure, but as anandtech said:
"Qualcomm's strengths are clearly single/lightly threaded CPU performance as Krait is able to offer some significant steps forward in that department. Tegra 3 can hold onto an advantage in heavily threaded apps, but I'm not entirely convinced that in phones we'll see a lot of that."
Basically, sure, yeah, there's a theoretical advantage, but what are you doing on your phone that necessitates four cores? And even then, the S4 doesn't perform significantly better or worse on multithreaded tests than the Tegra3.
By the time you need a new phone, there'll be quad-core Qualcomm processors. I wouldn't worry, at all.
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Sure, but as anandtech said:
"Qualcomm's strengths are clearly single/lightly threaded CPU performance as Krait is able to offer some significant steps forward in that department. Tegra 3 can hold onto an advantage in heavily threaded apps, but I'm not entirely convinced that in phones we'll see a lot of that."
Basically, sure, yeah, there's a theoretical advantage, but what are you doing on your phone that necessitates four cores? And even then, the S4 doesn't perform significantly better or worse on multithreaded tests than the Tegra3.
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It's like putting two engines in your car. It has the *potential* to go really fast, but unless your car is built to use two engines, it's not going to make any difference. Not the best example, I know. But it's simple.
As per the OP, we just don't have compatible LTE/Tegra3 combinations yet. Very bluntly, our LTE stuff sucks. (Which is why Apple passed on it with the 4S) Eventually, there will be an LTE modem that works with a quad-core chip, it's just not there right now. Like everyone else has said, in real world performance, you won't notice it anyway.
Nvidia is working on a Tegra 3 chipset with LTE built in I think I read.
Regardless, S4 is still a beast of a chip.
im glad the htc one isn't coming to verizon. it's stuff like this that makes our rezound outdated way before it's time. no one really "needs" a quad in a cell phone and im glad there isn't alot of quad core devices coming this year. both ces & mobile world congress were a big disappointment as far as im concerned.
IMO, the S4 dual core is an awesome chip. I am very skeptical about quad core battery performance. Due to technical advancements maybe they are superior. We will see soon enough.
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still no good with limited. if you're not doing heavy multithreaded work you won't see much difference plus 4 cores means more battery consumption vs dual
Tegra = fail. The market is doing a good job with over hyping dual core and quad core. Some people think it's almost necessary to have dual/quad socs , when other platforms like w7 run just fine on a single core.
isn't the second core on resound usually asleep a lot of the time unless needed? now you can have 3 cores taking a nap
lol.
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most dual core phones only use the second core as a back-up or for HDMI only
thus making it pointless to have quad-core phones at the moment i ran everything just fine on my Thunderbolt which was single core and it out performed my stock rezound.. and yes quad core i presume would be a battery drainer cuz dual cores don't really even have that good of battery life and single cores r the same
and snapdragon has quadcores already and they r in the midst of working on 8core chipsets but that wont be out till late 2013 early mid 2014 so stick with what u have
all good things take time
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Comparing The Tegra 3 and the Snapdragon S4 is like comparing the AMD Bulldozer chips with the current Intel chips. They put more cores on a die and call it "The Fastest" but when the benchmarks start showing up it falls short of a lower end, more efficient chips. In theory more cores = more power, but in reality architectural is everything. All the hype from people being like "MOAR COREZ OMG FASTER" is a bunch of bull...
mighty_markus12 said:
im glad the htc one isn't coming to verizon. it's stuff like this that makes our rezound outdated way before it's time. no one really "needs" a quad in a cell phone and im glad there isn't alot of quad core devices coming this year. both ces & mobile world congress were a big disappointment as far as im concerned.
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CES and MWC are just teasers anyways. Did you see the Rezound, Nexus, Razr, Razr Maxx, Transformer Prime, Galaxy Note, etc at those events last year? Nope, you saw the Bionic which 7 months later was a disastrophy, lol.
Did veruzon say they weren't getting the one x? I know there is a new verizon htc phone on the road map.
I'm curious about the snapdragon s4 just because it has lte integrated.
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Well the One X has the same processor as my laptop 1.5 gh quad core. The only thing I think my computer really needs the quad cores for is intense games especially my wii emulator, which probably could run on One X since it has the same processor as my computer.
Ndaoud360 said:
Well the One X has the same processor as my laptop 1.5 gh quad core. The only thing I think my computer really needs the quad cores for is intense games especially my wii emulator, which probably could run on One X since it has the same processor as my computer.
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It's also pretty dependent on the GPU. Not sure what kind of graphics card your laptop has, but that has a pretty substantial effect on gaming.
The One X has a great dedicated GPU, but it's still a phone. Not sure if it can really match up to an actual computer's graphics card, but I've been wrong before.
Hi every body,
I'm looking for an answer that I've the opportunity to buy the S3 quadcore international version or the dualcore LTE version.
Which one have the best benchmark ?
Which one have the less battery drain ?
I'm french ... so does the LTE version be compatible with french 3G+ ?
Thank for your answer
If you mean hspa+ for 3g+, i think it should work. I'd take the dual core over the quad core, as it is based on a newer architecture and android is not even optimized for dual core properly, let alone quad core. The snapdragon s4 beats the exynos in core to core performance. It should also fair better in battery as well, but may fall a bit short in benchmarks.
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This topic was made literally a few hours before yours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714719
Try and use the search function, this topic exist in 10 different kind of forms but all the same question.
refer to this one. includes a poll as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683261
Hey
I just noticed that crapple released it's new iphone 5 yesterday. That phone has the exynos 5 chip?! The s3 has the exynos 4...
Why does samsung give a better chip to its rival? What is the difference of the 4 and 5 chip?
Confused...
Fenrisulven_ said:
Hey
What is the difference of the 4 and 5 chip?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
iphone doesnt have exynos,it has their own modified A6 chipset. exynos is built by samsung.
f3n0m3no said:
iphone doesnt have exynos,it has their own modified A6 chipset. exynos is built by samsung.
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So the A15 dual core architecture with mali T-604 gpu doesent have anything with samsung to do? Does the A6 chipset include T-604?
Fenrisulven_ said:
So the A15 dual core architecture with mali T-604 gpu doesent have anything with samsung to do? Does the A6 chipset include T-604?
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no, is PowerVR SGX
f3n0m3no said:
iphone doesnt have exynos,it has their own modified A6 chipset. exynos is built by samsung.
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ilbulgaro89 said:
no, is PowerVR SGX
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yes it is exynos but the reason why they are so secretive is that A6 is actually a dualcore exynos but with a quadcore gpu
the GPU is slightly more powerfull
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
Exynos 5 Dual[19]
(previously Exynos 5250[20]) 32 nm HKMG ARMv7 1.7 GHz Dual-core ARM Cortex-A15 ARM Mali-T604 (Quad-core)[21] 32-bit Dual-channel 800 MHz LPDDR3/DDR3 or 533 MHz LPDDR2 Q2 2012[20] iPhone 5 (lower clock speed)
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What where does it say exynos and apple iphone 5??
Edit http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_5
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see my post, iphone 5 uses soc build by samsung on the arm cortex-a15 instruction set
the a6 cpu is exactly a exynos 5 with a lower clock speed
samsung have built most of the cpu chipsets for iphone
Rastaman-FB said:
see my post, iphone 5 uses soc build by samsung on the arm cortex-a15 instruction set
the a6 cpu is exactly a exynos 5 with a lower clock speed
samsung have built most of the cpu chipsets for iphone
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I am getting sick of all this speculation when they dont even know for sure...I have came from a site which says Iphone 5 has the New A15 Arm Processor. You want to know how they worked it out? Well because at the event they said it will be 2X faster.. THATS IT. That is how they guessed it. They even admitted and said its just a guess!!! THen I read comments from people and they even said they could of just clocked it at a higher speed which then in theory is 2X faster.. No one knows for sure yet Apple is secretive. I beleive if apple has the fastest chip in a phone I dont know why they will be so secretive. I would advertise it but who knows. So no know one knows if apple has exynos 5 stop playing chinese wispers
Look how bull**** this is see the wikipedia which to me is probably bull**** now have a look at this site
http://nvonews.com/2012/09/13/hands-on-with-iphone-5-release-specs-price-pictures/
so whos correct?? loool no one knows what it is yet
btemtd said:
I am getting sick of all this speculation when they dont even know for sure...I have came from a site which says Iphone 5 has the New A15 Arm Processor. You want to know how they worked it out? Well because at the event they said it will be 2X faster.. THATS IT. That is how they guessed it. They even admitted and said its just a guess!!! THen I read comments from people and they even said they could of just clocked it at a higher speed which then in theory is 2X faster.. No one knows for sure yet Apple is secretive. I beleive if apple has the fastest chip in a phone I dont know why they will be so secretive. I would advertise it but who knows. So no know one knows if apple has exynos 5 stop playing chinese wispers
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I agree
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sir, im sick of people like you who get there knickers in a twist when there are certain people in the industry that know these things
if that information provided on wiki was false then apple and samsung would immediately have it removed and the content ommited due to on going legal implications.
it is known by the industry that the Ax cpus are built by samsung, apple have intentionally avoided mentioning its a dualcore cpu as people dont like that sound and are marketing it as a quadcore gpu (the a5x was also quad gpu)
this isnt chinese whispers. sort out your attitude and come back with some valid and correct information.
What we do not know is performance, the new generation dual core could out perform the quadcore in many ways due to the new instruction set. the gpu is certainly improved but we have no realtime tests or bench marks to go on.
dual/quad certainly doesnt mean better
Btw the dual core a15 is 40% faster ( at core) respect the a9 with very minor power consumption
So is like a quad core a9 in performance ( global)
at the end s3 and iphone5 are equivalent in power ( cpu, gpu is better the iphone one) and batteru life ( 1500mah vs 2100 mah considering the a15 lower power cons )
Rastaman-FB said:
sir, im sick of people like you who get there knickers in a twist when there are certain people in the industry that know these things
if that information provided on wiki was false then apple and samsung would immediately have it removed and the content ommited due to on going legal implications.
it is known by the industry that the Ax cpus are built by samsung, apple have intentionally avoided mentioning its a dualcore cpu as people dont like that sound and are marketing it as a quadcore gpu (the a5x was also quad gpu)
this isnt chinese whispers. sort out your attitude and come back with some valid and correct information.
What we do not know is performance, the new generation dual core could out perform the quadcore in many ways due to the new instruction set. the gpu is certainly improved but we have no realtime tests or bench marks to go on.
dual/quad certainly doesnt mean better
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What a JOKER I know that samsung builds these chips. Your telling me if there is false information on the net Apple will take it down Immediatley ROFL. Bro you have had it thats all I can say.
Have you seen the Iphone 5 and played with it and diagnosed it? Why One site says 1Ghz Dual and another says 1.2Ghz Dual? Your telling me that this chip is both ? WHY hasnt apple shut down the sites?????? Im sick of people like you that think they know it all !!!!! If one site claims something then another site can copy the specs of that site and put it on you dont think thats possibe???
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6279/apples-iphone-5-uses-a6-soc-arm-cortex-a15s-inside
here is a site which claims it the A15 note what they say
Apple just announced the A6 SoC powering the new iPhone 5 features 2x faster CPU and GPU performance compared to the iPhone 4S. Apple reserves major Ax SoC number iterations for architecture changes, combine that with the performance claims as well as some other stuff we've heard offline and there's one conclusion: the iPhone 5 uses ARM Cortex A15 cores inside
f3n0m3no said:
iphone doesnt have exynos,it has their own modified A6 chipset. exynos is built by samsung.
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base from phonearena is stated made by samsung
and is exynos
http://t.co/cKqKS3T2
http://translate.google.com/transla...ebutto-il-28-settembre-in-italia-su-iphone-5/
Rastaman-FB said:
yes it is exynos but the reason why they are so secretive is that A6 is actually a dualcore exynos but with a quadcore gpu
the GPU is slightly more powerfull
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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Stop talking **** for crying out loud.
Propagating complete rubbish all over the internet.
A6 will have been developed in house at Apple and fabbed by Samsung on a 32nm process. No one knows for sure if its A9 or A15 cores inside.
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What a JOKER I know that samsung builds these chips. Your telling me if there is false information on the net Apple will take it down Immediatley ROFL. Bro you have had it thats all I can say.
Have you seen the Iphone 5 and played with it and diagnosed it? Why One site says 1Ghz Dual and another says 1.2Ghz Dual? Your telling me that this chip is both ? WHY hasnt apple shut down the sites?????? Im sick of people like you that think they know it all !!!!! If one site claims something then another site can copy the specs of that site and put it on you dont think thats possibe???
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hahahaha you make me laugh, shutting down a site is different to getting data from wikipedia ommited as wiki whilst sometimes incorrect gets corrected due to it providing logical and correct indexes of valid information
as for me personally, you dont know who i am and what i know.
apple do often get stuff taken down that they can have controll of, wikipedia is one of them
well see wont we. when the handset is released and someone takes it apart its only a matter of time, then i will come back here and laugh at you for being an idiot.
calm down, get a glass of water. if you dont want to read about this stuff then dont click on a link that is clearly talking about it.
or have you come here just to be an argumentative moron
irzero said:
Stop talking **** for crying out loud.
Propagating complete rubbish all over the internet.
A6 will have been developed in house at Apple and fabbed by Samsung on a 32nm process. No one knows for sure if its A9 or A15 cores inside.
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really? you know this do you? and you are telling me to stop talking **** when ive only mentioned it here however you come out with a new bold statement? hypocrisy
rastaman-fb said:
hahahaha you make me laugh, shutting down a site is different to getting data from wikipedia ommited as wiki whilst sometimes incorrect gets corrected due to it providing logical and correct indexes of valid information
as for me personally, you dont know who i am and what i know.
Apple do often get stuff taken down that they can have controll of, wikipedia is one of them
well see wont we. When the handset is released and someone takes it apart its only a matter of time, then i will come back here and laugh at you for being an idiot.
Calm down, get a glass of water. If you dont want to read about this stuff then dont click on a link that is clearly talking about it.
Or have you come here just to be an argumentative moron
really? You know this do you? And you are telling me to stop talking **** when ive only mentioned it here however you come out with a new bold statement? Hypocrisy
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hahhaha i cant wait to see you laughing at yourself because no where did i say apple does not have a15 i said no one knows forsure. And people are guessing. So yes lets wait for the 100% truth which means it wont be speculation BUT 100% fact
Dude!...it's simple..! Logic...if iPhone 5's processor was faster than the one in s3...they would've marketed it like hell!..but they didn't....
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Dude!...it's simple..! Logic...if iPhone 5's processor was faster than the one in s3...they would've marketed it like hell!..but they didn't....
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thats no wholly true
if it is indeed an exynos 5 and i trust the sources, then it could be as powerful as a exynos4 quad on day to day tasks and single threaded tasks
apple are not stupid, if they came out and said openly that its dual core then people would not look at the bigger picture and s3 users who do not know the inner workings of the instruction sets would be like "HAHAHAHAHAHA I5 ONLY DUAL CORE" when infact it doesnt mean much.
remember when an e8400 dual core could kick the ass of a q6800 extreme?
similar thing could well happen here, no one has seen how a exynos4quad benches against a exynos5 dual
How long you guys think it'll be until US carriers get phones with octa core processors? I'm thinking of getting the S4 but I don't want to get the quad core US version and then a couple months later, octa core phones start coming out.
What's the point of octa-core exactly? I don't understand what real life benefits it can have over the quad core SnapDragon 600 processor being used in the competition's flagships. IMHO it's completely gimmicky and silly for present times. I understand your view, I would want the higher version too if I'm paying for it, but I feel the S4 on the whole is silly and doesn't bring anything new to the table other than gimmicky stuff. Its looks don't help either.
Good read - http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=396
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Completely agree with the above comments.. Even if you have an Octa core working in your device, only four cores will be working at a time.. and the latest benchmarks scores from the galaxy s4 shows that the qualcom 600 seris scores more than the exynos Octa.. So its juts a mere number game by Samsung.. at least at this point of time.. the quadrant score for the Qualcom 600 in HTC one is in the range of 12000.. Any of the current (i believe for at least another year) will work like a charm with this processor..