Hello,
As crazy as this sounds, is there an SD card image that is bootable similar to CM7 that isn't rooted? I want to use my Nook as a tablet for work but the IT department has an application that verifies that the device isn't rooted before you can get corporate mail. If there isn't an image, does anyone know if there is a way to reset the status on the Nook so that it doesn't show that it's been rooted?
Since I've started using my Nook booted off of the card I can't think of more than a couple times that I've needed root access. And each of those times I could just as easily moved to a different load/card. Being able to power down and swap cards is pretty snazzy. I received my nook as a holiday gift and I've loved running it off the card. I haven't loaded CM7 or anything else into internal memory because I like having the ability to revert back to B&N build if I need to.
My current setup is a Nook Tablet 16Gb running CM7 from SD card.
Mod version CyanogenMod-7.2.0-RC0-acclaim-Team-B
Android version: 2.3.7
Thanks in advance for any help.
Well you could always just boot into your internal ROM and use that at work. The root access you have only is available on your SD ROM so there's no real way for them to tell if you've ever had root access.
Although I don't know how they check in the first place, so that might be a little out of place for me to say.
If I not mistaken this is what you're looking for.
Nikkie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927
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Thank you for the advice.
Solar.Plexus: regrettably that is the crux of the issue. The company uses an app that is on the Google Play store for checking the device and the B&N internal rom doesn't have access to that. The card has access to the Play store but is rooted. It's like a rock and a hard place.
NikkieL: That is pretty much what I have already. I was wondering if there was an image that was complete but wasn't rooted.
Thanks again.
taferguson said:
Thank you for the advice.
Solar.Plexus: regrettably that is the crux of the issue. The company uses an app that is on the Google Play store for checking the device and the B&N internal rom doesn't have access to that. The card has access to the Play store but is rooted. It's like a rock and a hard place.
NikkieL: That is pretty much what I have already. I was wondering if there was an image that was complete but wasn't rooted.
Thanks again.
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Oh, I understand now. You need access to Google Play, but you can't have root.
I don't know if you can unroot a CyanogenMod ROM or not. Haha honestly, this is the only time I've ever seen this requested. Maybe if you remove some binaries and SuperUser completely, but I'm not so sure.
Try the app "voodoo rootkeeper"
Cubanluke88: That worked. I was able to get through the health check of my device. The "UN-Root" button worked like a charm.
I'd just like to provide some info on how this all works.
So the stock OS on the Nook is like most Android devices in that the end user does not have "root access." We have a few tools to allow users to gain root access on the stock OS.
Now, we also have a handful of custom versions of Android (roms). They all, as far as I know, come with root access. This means that upon installing them, whether to internal or booting from an sdcard, you will have root access, i.e. full access to the rom's file system. Developers could, if they so chose, create roms that did not have root access. In fact, back in March, the official CM team added the options in developer options, allowing users to disable root altogether, enable it for Android Debug Bridge mode (ADB) only, enable it for apps only or enable it for both (though I think this is only for CM9 and beyond).
Essentially the OP was asking for a way to have a custom rom (CM7) without root access. The app I suggested disables root access and allows you to toggle it back on when you need it. Its fantastic for stock versions. As many have found out, taking official updates usually removes root access. Voodoo Rootkeeper allows your device to preserve the apps/exploit essential for root access and to restore it when you need it.
^^^ That is the kind of post that helps newbies, like me, learn the ins and outs. Thank you.:good:
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I have a nook tablet and looking into rooting. Had an iPhone jailbroken from day 1 so very interested in this process for the nook. Apparently its best to down grade to 1.4 first since my nook updated. My daughter received new nook today but she is not giving it up and already has 1.4. I keep asking to trade but not having anything to do with it. Once I move down to 1.4 I can root and block updates it appears. However I do have a question on side loading. I have seen this term used a lot but unsure of its meaning. If I am rooted do I not just use the market to download apps to the nook once rooted?? Do you have to constantly sideload apps even after rooting?? thanks for any help
Sideloading - installing applications/games directly via apk (android package) you have on your home computer or on the SD card of the NT.
A rooted device allows you to download and install apps/games from Google Market as well as Amazon Appstore.
it is driving me crazy looking how to install the apk's from the sd card or computer. running 1.40 I have unknown sources loaded. but i can only sideload the apps if I download them from the nook browser.
how the hell do i load them from the sd card.
btw I am not rooted yet....computer keeps installing it as a storage device and that wont work for the life of me
kegman913 said:
it is driving me crazy looking how to install the apk's from the sd card or computer. running 1.40 I have unknown sources loaded. but i can only sideload the apps if I download them from the nook browser.
how the hell do i load them from the sd card.
btw I am not rooted yet....computer keeps installing it as a storage device and that wont work for the life of me
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Have you tried turning on (both) usb debugging settings and automount off? You usually have to redo those settings after a nook reboot.
i have a nook tablet and when i did the whole rooting thing i didnt put a launcher on it by accident. now i cant get to the apps unless i do a search for them. is there a way to fix this?
The_Fallen_One said:
i have a nook tablet and when i did the whole rooting thing i didnt put a launcher on it by accident. now i cant get to the apps unless i do a search for them. is there a way to fix this?
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if you still have a browser, do an internet search for go launcher apk. should pull up website with file to download
Thanks for the help man.
Help with keeping NT at 1.4.0
Purchased a nook tablet for my mom for christmas but she wants apps not available on nook appstore so I got amazon appstore downloaded and apps added and then got the 1.4.1 update. I got it reset to 1.4.0 and set back up. I don't want to root because I am worried mom will have problems. (she is 73 years young) Happy with it the way it is with nook stuff working and having ability to get other apps from amazon. I keep turning off wireless to keep it status quo. All of the options to block ota seem to need the nt to be rooted. Is there a way to keep at 1.4.0, not root the nt, and be able to keep wireless on??
my undrstanding is root is required and i bet your grandmother would love android market
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I don't want to root because I am worried mom will have problems.
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It seems like she's coming to you for problems, which means she shouldn't have to worry about rooting, and going into the store for help. She probably won't notice anything with missing out on the 1.4.1 update, as it seems like the only thing that was changed was breaking roots and sideloading. If it actually introduced new functionality, I would be amazed. And she probably won't do something that would break her tablet after you root it... it's not like rooted makes killing your system trivial. It is "easy", but you still have to activate root mode, mount /system rw, and then and THEN, you have to do something stupid.
So, I would stop stressing about rooting her device, but then again, if the next update actually forces something that will break the B&N apps (like change the server interface, or something, and reject anyone with an earlier version) then she would either have to live without them, or reset the nook and lose everything (hopefully, you would back it all up, though, right?)
Of course will back up but I was afraid it would make it too complicated but I guess I am going to root and see if she likes it. We can always reset the whole thing back to the beginning. Thanks for the confirmation that I need to root to block ota.
Thanks for the help!!!
Hi,
I am new to the Atrix, but have a background in software development and was a sys admin on unix for a number of years.
I would like to know if, after a phone is rooted, do all apps run as root? or does routing simple install a setuid "su", and root apps call that when they need root access?
The webtop2sd post looks very complete and also something I will try soon. Do I need to unlock the bootloader to run a modified webtop from my sd card?
I would like to keep my phone as stock as possible, but enable a hacked webtop on the sd card.
Also there are 1000's of root threads, what is the safest canonical method (that can easily be undone)?
Many thanks and sorry for asking for your time. I have not found these answers around, but then again, there is a great amount of mis-information out there.
thx,
Scott.
Hi Scott.
I can only partially help you out; someone with more experience will answer at some point I'm sure. I'm running stock Gingerbread & rooted.
Regarding rooting: I followed the instructions on this site (which are duplicated across multiple sites, I'm sure). It worked just fine with no errors or other reasons to cause concern. That said, I'm not sure how to undo the rooting process other than by accepting an over-the-air update to ICS. Which is totally going to happen. ... <crickets>
I might be able to answer your root-app question: whenever an app requests root access, a dialog box pops up prompting me to allow or deny it. While I'm sure it's possible for a rogue rootkit to get in there if installing shady programs is your thing, I haven't yet had a problem. (A sidenote: there's an app on the market called LBE Privacy that gives you full control over app permissions: access to phone state, contacts, SMS, etc.)
Can't really help you on the webtop2sd thing, though I did install this modification to run the webtop over my HDMI cable, no lapdock required.
Hello,
I have a rooted NT on 1.4.1 and this morning it seems the the OTA block did not function because it upgraded to 1.4.2 on it own.
It doens't seem to have affected the root so far, but I haven't explored everthing.
When I click on the NT Hidden settings OTA block i have a message stating :
Missing /system/bin/su
What can I do to block any further ota upgrades. When I rooted I am preety sure that I had made sure that OTA were blocked...
Thanks.
Nathalie
same here
I also looked at my rooted tablet today and it said the 1.4.2 OTA installed.
I had rooted from 1.4.1 using the SD card method.
I had run the OTA blocker but still got 1.4.2
It did not appear to break the root but I had limited time to check things.
Hoping to hear others comments on this issue.
And looking for a OTA block that works.
I tried titanium back-up block at one time but had issues, might just try it again.
This is bummer news. I was hoping I was done with the B&N BS.
install cm7 if you can. It works nice and unlocks the mic
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA App
You can root 1.4.2 with any "Root Card" method.
michaelkthx said:
install cm7 if you can. It works nice and unlocks the mic
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA App
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I'm sticking with a rooted 1.4.0 for now. The issue is that I've read the B&N stock apps don't work on CM7. You could download the B&N app from the Market but it doens't have the same functionallity. Some who subscribe to magazines have reported they can't view their subscriptions on the B&N Market app. It seems to be an issue that depends on the magazine as some are OK and some aren't.
rwischer said:
I'm sticking with a rooted 1.4.0 for now. The issue is that I've read the B&N stock apps don't work on CM7. You could download the B&N app from the Market but it doens't have the same functionallity. Some who subscribe to magazines have reported they can't view their subscriptions on the B&N Market app. It seems to be an issue that depends on the magazine as some are OK and some aren't.
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None of my magazines are accessible through any B&N Market app (Time, SI, GQ, etc.), but I thought rooting still allows you to access all the vanilla B&N content in addition to Market apps?
EDIT: Whoops, missed the part about CM7. Yes, a different ROM doesn't access the B&N stock apps, as I understand it.
So what should i do because, it seems that i have lost android market, it is asking for a new account. And the email and talk do not work either...
I am kinda lost here because i do not want to brick my NT...
Any suggestions?
Nathalie0226 said:
So what should i do because, it seems that i have lost android market, it is asking for a new account. And the email and talk do not work either...
I am kinda lost here because i do not want to brick my NT...
Any suggestions?
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The OTA has removed your root access. Which in turn means you can no longer use the packages installed after the root process. Basically refer back to GabrialDestruir's post where he said the 'root card' methods should still work fine. Your best bet IMO is to either install internally, or use an sdcard version of CWM recovery and if you want stock, download and install one of the stock flashable roms in the development section. Else install CM7. Or stay on 1.4.2, your call.
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The OTA has removed your root access. Which in turn means you can no longer use the packages installed after the root process. Basically refer back to GabrialDestruir's post where he said the 'root card' methods should still work fine. Your best bet IMO is to either install internally, or use an sdcard version of CWM recovery and if you want stock, download and install one of the stock flashable roms in the development section. Else install CM7. Or stay on 1.4.2, your call.
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I'm running 1.4.2 and it's all nicely rooted, you just have to used a "Root Card" aka a card which by whatever means adds all sorts of root glory to your device. There are like two or three of these that actually exist for the Nook Tablet, choose one burn the sdcard and follow the instructions and you get a functioning stock root device.
GabrialDestruir said:
I'm running 1.4.2 and it's all nicely rooted, you just have to used a "Root Card" aka a card which by whatever means adds all sorts of root glory to your device. There are like two or three of these that actually exist for the Nook Tablet, choose one burn the sdcard and follow the instructions and you get a functioning stock root device.
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I am trying to get mine to update to 1.4.2, so I can get the fixes from 1.4.1 mainly...and plan to use a root card after the update. But I cannot get mine to update after having done the OTA block. I manually downloaded the update and dropped it in the root of my nt, and its been hours and it hasent applies any update and still says version 9.9.9
GabrialDestruir said:
I'm running 1.4.2 and it's all nicely rooted, you just have to used a "Root Card" aka a card which by whatever means adds all sorts of root glory to your device. There are like two or three of these that actually exist for the Nook Tablet, choose one burn the sdcard and follow the instructions and you get a functioning stock root device.
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So GabrialDestruir, I initially used Albert Wertz root method using an sd card.
Should I re-root my NT using the same method as it is right now or should I un-root it prior rooting it again.
It's not that clear for me yet how I should proceed.
Thanks.
LivDoug said:
I am trying to get mine to update to 1.4.2, so I can get the fixes from 1.4.1 mainly...and plan to use a root card after the update. But I cannot get mine to update after having done the OTA block. I manually downloaded the update and dropped it in the root of my nt, and its been hours and it hasent applies any update and still says version 9.9.9
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If I'm not mistaken, if your version says 9.9.9, it won't update.
*Sorry to the OP for the hijack*
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Please post all questions in the Q&A section
does this work on 1.4.2?
i forgot to block OTA when i was at 1.4.1 and it automatically updated to 1.4.2 now...
Is there any site or source on the web that provides downloads of old versions of Android Market apps? This would be for apps that are now updated or no longer available on the Market? I am looking for a site similar to "OldVersion.com" which has some old/classic PC software (but this would be something for android apps instead)?
Thanks if anyone knows of a source or sites.
CustomShortcut gone?
The app that I am looking for in the above post was a free one called CustomShortcut APK. I now have it on one of my two phones (the other phone had it but was lost and replaced). I have tried looking for a developer page for this app but no luck as everything seems to point back to android market as the source link for download.
Does anyone know of a way or source for me to get this APK back on my other phone? Is there a way to copy it from one phone to the other? I am assuming that it was removed from the market because it may not be compatible with ICS but I am not running ICS. The application was made by appli.club.
Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
85gallon said:
Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
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No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
just google for any app you want like this:
"title" "versionnumber" "apk" "download"
for example:
android market 2.9 apk download
mojosingle said:
No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
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Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
85gallon said:
Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
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Well I am not really too concerned about it wiping out my phone, but I thought I had read many posts here talking about once you root your phone the native skin from the manufacturer is eliminated (for HTC that would be the "Sense" user interface). Can you please confirm? Is this not true? HTC Sense will remain exactly the same after rooting my phone?
The other thing that has made me cautious is that my phone runs perfectly now and I see so many threads on the xda boards here and over at various android forums that start off with "My ____ app is not working right since I rooted...." Just a little daunting for a newbie like myself.
spunker88 said:
I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
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Thanks very much for the site suggestion. I have been trying to search for the CustomShortcut APK over there but no luck ...so far (the site search is not that easy to use). I have even tried to seach the site externally using google but, unfortunately, still no luck.
Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
85gallon said:
Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
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Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
mojosingle said:
Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
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yes you can unroot. As for easy access after you are rooted to vulnerable areas, they can only get access if you let them. If an app wants super user privileges, you will get a pop up from su(the super user apk) telling you that some app is wanting privileges. You can grant or deny access. The only things on my phone that have ever given me a pop up are things that i downloaded and know need su access. Wifi tether, root explorer, adfree, etc.
I have found a site that keeps older version of an android app. It's called Android Drawer.
Hope it helps
I've just tried to download my first rented movie on Google's Play Videos. I got the error that many have gotten for a long time "won't install on rooted device." I know that the OTARootKeeper exists for truly rooted devices, but my Nook isn't really "rooted," right?!? because it's still the original NT, just booted with Team B's SD Card CM7 most recent release.
My question is, should i used OTARootKeeper to allow me to download rented videos or is there a better way to handle this "bump in the road" of not being able to download a rented moving?
I am a noobie, however I've done lots of looking on line as well as searching forums and reading about past people's challenges with Google Play (Market).
As a final note, I do want to download b/c I want to watch on a plane flight vs stream through YouTube or watch live streaming.
Thank you for your help in advance!
To address the first part of your premise, your device is rooted.
Root means "root access" i.e. you have access to the root directory of the device. What you and many others think it means is "stock rom rooted" but this is a misinterpretation of the meaning "rooted." Your device is running CM7 which happens to be a "rooted" rom. In fact, the official Cyanogenmod team has decided to make future rom releases "not rooted" on upon initial flashing, though root access can be gained by toggling it in developer settings. I have even come across "unrooted" custom roms, meaning that they are custom versions of android, but much like many manufacturer ones, root access is not enabled "out of the box."
Now as to using Google Videos, I believe voodoo rootkeeper does not work for this purpose anymore. I think there is an app called "Super SU" that allows it, but I don't remember the exact setting you need to toggle to enable it. I'll report back after I test on my tablet.
Edit: So this is the app you want to use. In it, go to settings and toggle "Enable Superuser." You should then be able to use Google Movies. When you're done, just go back to SuperSU and toggle that setting again.
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Thank you so much first for the Rooted clarification and second for the SuperSU install information. Once I download from SuperSU and open it, I get the following error from SuperSU and am not sure what to do about it..."There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!" Help please!
I am having the same issue on my Nook Color. I've tried SuperSU but it fails on the binary installation. When I try using Voodoo I get an SU Protected error.
Am I missing something? This process is usually brainless and I really would like to rent a movie through Google Play to watch on my trip.
Any help on temporarily circumventing the root issue would be greatly appreciated. Is this a CM7 issue?
Sent from my NookColor using XDA
still needing help - pretty please!
EDITED: I'm wondering if a solution from another post may work for this challenge. Some people have had trouble downloading certain apps so they edited the build.prop to remove any "Nook Tablet" and replaced it with "XOOM" and said from that point they didn't have any trouble downloading. Unfortunately I'm not quite enough of an expert to know how to edit the build.prop on my device, so I'm wondering if someone can help me figure it out. cheers!
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To address the first part of your premise, your device is rooted.
Root means "root access" i.e. you have access to the root directory of the device. What you and many others think it means is "stock rom rooted" but this is a misinterpretation of the meaning "rooted." Your device is running CM7 which happens to be a "rooted" rom. In fact, the official Cyanogenmod team has decided to make future rom releases "not rooted" on upon initial flashing, though root access can be gained by toggling it in developer settings. I have even come across "unrooted" custom roms, meaning that they are custom versions of android, but much like many manufacturer ones, root access is not enabled "out of the box."
Now as to using Google Videos, I believe voodoo rootkeeper does not work for this purpose anymore. I think there is an app called "Super SU" that allows it, but I don't remember the exact setting you need to toggle to enable it. I'll report back after I test on my tablet.
Edit: So this is the app you want to use. In it, go to settings and toggle "Enable Superuser." You should then be able to use Google Movies. When you're done, just go back to SuperSU and toggle that setting again.
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Thank you so much first for the Rooted clarification and second for the SuperSU install information. Once I download from SuperSU and open it, I get the following error from SuperSU and am not sure what to do about it..."There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!" Help please!