Related
I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
Thank You
pagereborn said:
I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
Thank You
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my guess is that its just like the captivate (and every other AT&T specific phone).....no
pagereborn said:
I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
Thank You
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look at the bands in the specs - if you don't see UMTS1700, it won't work.
And I have NEVER seen that in the specs for ANY AT&T phone, EVER.
In rare situations, T-Mobile phones supported one (but not both) AT&T bands, but I've never seen any AT&T phone support T-Mo bands.
Entropy512 said:
Look at the bands in the specs - if you don't see UMTS1700, it won't work.
And I have NEVER seen that in the specs for ANY AT&T phone, EVER.
In rare situations, T-Mobile phones supported one (but not both) AT&T bands, but I've never seen any AT&T phone support T-Mo bands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1u vibrant worked on att 3g but that was rare most carriers try to avoid that
Sent from AT&T Galaxy S2
pagereborn said:
I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
Thank You
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
T-Mobile's AWS bands aren't typically supported. AWS isn't even used in Asia or Europe. T-Mobile's SGS2 does have AT&T's bands but not vice versa. But it's a stretch even calling T-Mobile's version an SGS2.
How about 3G? Does Tmobile support 3G on AT&T phone, since i read both phone have 2100 UMTS.
Thanks
joshyy_rey said:
+1u vibrant worked on att 3g but that was rare most carriers try to avoid that
Sent from AT&T Galaxy S2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Vibrant only supported one of the bands (1900), so it only worked on att 3G in some markets, not everywhere. Some markets only use 850.
Sent from my SGS II
Greenturtle23 said:
How about 3G? Does Tmobile support 3G on AT&T phone, since i read both phone have 2100 UMTS.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. 3G and 4G use the same bands. You MUST have 1700 AWS support in order to get T-Mo 3G or 4G. Good luck with that. Only T-mo or some Canandian phones support AWS.
Greenturtle23 said:
How about 3G? Does Tmobile support 3G on AT&T phone, since i read both phone have 2100 UMTS.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll get EDGE/GPRS speeds. Typically between 256 and 512K. To get anything higher you'll need a phone that supports 1700/2100 of which there aren't many other than the one's offered by T-Mobile itself.
Simple answer: No.
You will only get EDGE speed on any AT&T phones. There aren't many phones with 1700 band besides T-Mobile phones.
It's funny how T-Mobile's "SGS2" supports AT&T's bands, but not the other way around. But then again their "SGS2" seems more like an Amaze IMO since it's using the darn S3 & not Exynos >:l (points at tmobile). I really wished Sammy could fix the Exynos, so it could support Tmo, because it feels wrong when Sammy teams up with Qualcomm....End of rant.
The only reason T-mo version uses Qualcomm chip is because it needs the 42mbps HSPA+ radio from Qualcomm. The upcoming LTE version of GS2 will also use Qualcomm chip because it needs to use the Qualcomm LTE chip.
foxbat121 said:
The only reason T-mo version uses Qualcomm chip is because it needs the 42mbps HSPA+ radio from Qualcomm. The upcoming LTE version of GS2 will also use Qualcomm chip because it needs to use the Qualcomm LTE chip.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Korean Celox, on which the TSGS2 is based, is an LTE device and using a Qualcomm chip. The two recently announced Korean SGS2 models will be LTE and using a 1.5Ghz version of the Exynos chip. Samsung went with Qualcomm for the TSGS2 and Celox either to shorten time to market or the projected quantities weren't sufficient to modify Exynos. Evolutions of Exynos will continue to power Samsung's flagship phones and tablets starting with the G-Note and G-Tab 7.7.
All S3 has the 4G antenna, they just pick up different data freq? I got the i9300 and currently reside in US under AT&T. KNow if there are anny ways to receive 4G? The phone according to specs can only do 4G in europe and such, but any one have any idea?
alpunkator313 said:
All S3 has the 4G antenna, they just pick up different data freq? I got the i9300 and currently reside in US under AT&T. KNow if there are anny ways to receive 4G? The phone according to specs can only do 4G in europe and such, but any one have any idea?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you talking about the Us variant of the S3 (Qualcomm s4 version) or the international version (Exynos quad core version)???
alpunkator313 said:
All S3 has the 4G antenna, they just pick up different data freq? I got the i9300 and currently reside in US under AT&T. KNow if there are anny ways to receive 4G? The phone according to specs can only do 4G in europe and such, but any one have any idea?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i9300 does not have LTE. The max you get with it is hspa+
Unwanted info: As of today you will get edge only on T Mo US.
123shree said:
you talking about the Us variant of the S3 (Qualcomm s4 version) or the international version (Exynos quad core version)???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I have the i9300 quad core and according to the specs i've found online it supports 4G in europe but not in US
alpunkator313 said:
Yes, I have the i9300 quad core and according to the specs i've found online it supports 4G in europe but not in US
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
where did you find that spec??? It's wrong.. international version doesn't have a LTE/4G Antenna.
Only the Korean (exynos) and the US (qualcomm s4) versions have 4G/LTE as far as I know.
Most of the websites say the s3 is 4G friendly or regional, etc., All that means is it's supported in certain regions (south Korea, US)
The i9300 does have the 4g bands except 4g lte bands for AT&T in the US.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
We don't have 4G LTE bands, but we do have "faux" G bands though.
Hi,
So I've read the FCC documents located here: LINK
Page 1 and Page 5 are the most interesting! These state that the Verizon model SCH-i545 will have AWS band 4 (of course 13 too) which does support T-mobiles LTE network right? It never states 1700/1200 frequencies.
Thing I want to know from the pros is will this phone indeed offer LTE support for T-Mobile or and I'm just seeing things?
Also, for all the other people that are wondering if the ATT model will offer LTE support for T-Mobile as well? It will since it supports both bands 4 and 17 But wait is that AWS band 4?... the jury is out on that! -_-
Many Thanks
Becool0130 said:
Hi,
So I've read the FCC documents located here: LINK
Page 1 and Page 5 are the most interesting! These state that the Verizon model SCH-i545 will have AWS band 4 (of course 13 too) which does support T-mobiles LTE network right? It never states 1700/1200 frequencies.
Thing I want to know from the pros is will this phone indeed offer LTE support for T-Mobile or and I'm just seeing things?
Also, for all the other people that are wondering if the ATT model will offer LTE support for T-Mobile as well? It will since it supports both bands 4 and 17 But wait is that AWS band 4?... the jury is out on that! -_-
Many Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
scott14719 said:
If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
All lte phones have sim cards as it is a gsm technology. My girls verizon gs3 has a sim. As far as it being compatible that is a hell of a question.
OneStepAhead said:
All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes! I sold my iPhone 4s to get Samsung galaxy s4 and it sold to someone over in the UK world (Ireland) that says it works! Lol.
I've also seen threads about sim unlocking the Verizon S3 for domestic and international use. Some people use HiAPN as system app along with other steps and viola... Working on whatever network you want
Question is... Am I seeing right that Verizon S4 will support AWS Band 4 for t-mobile?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda app-developers app
good news
OneStepAhead said:
All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey this is one question i have lingering on my mind. How is the StraightTalk connection? Is it any good? Are there call drop issues? And do they have data plans?
if i buy a tmobile s4 will it work on verizon??
I know most things are under the catagory of speculation/rumor but i was wanting to to check out tmobile network for a bit.... the no contract is appealing. If i bought the phone outright and ending up not liking tmobile i would switch to verizon. Short of selling the tmobile and getting a verizon phone i was wondering about just activating the same phone on verizon?
Will there be "one phone" in US or would they all have thier own modem chips i guess is the real question....
thanks for the guesses and speculat'n!
You have to consider its Verizon and they have 700Mhz LTE and you can't roam on AT&T's 700Mhz so I would not expect to access Verizons AWS spectrum on T-Mobile or vice versa. Remember when they said LTE was the unifying spectrum to allow for easier use across networks and carriers, well that was a pile of BS.
Great news, but I heard verizon was purposely going to burn in their logo onto the amoled screens.
RaptorMD said:
You have to consider its Verizon and they have 700Mhz LTE and you can't roam on AT&T's 700Mhz so I would not expect to access Verizons AWS spectrum on T-Mobile or vice versa.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wrong: those "700mhz" frequencies are different bands. Both T-Mobile and Verizon are building out LTE on the same band: 4 (AWS). They will be interoperable device-wise.
AT&T also owns a lot of AWS, and though they're currently running LTE on it only in one market (somewhere in Oklahoma IIRC), all their LTE devices do come with band 4 enabled.
The more I read about the differences, the more I'm convinced that the Verizon model is more cross compatible with all other services. It's still the only CDMA model. But it's also gsm unlocked if you know how to program APNs. Any thoughts?
jerzyboy2421 said:
The more I read about the differences, the more I'm convinced that the Verizon model is more cross compatible with all other services. It's still the only CDMA model. But it's also gsm unlocked if you know how to program APNs. Any thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I posted a pretty detailed analyzation of the LTE bands the different GS4 models work with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40974831#post40974831
if we ever get to the point where we don't need 3g at all any more (CDMA) and we can get VoLTE and use the LTE band exclusively that will eliminate a lot of the incompatability between Verizon and GSM carriers .
Parafly said:
if we ever get to the point where we don't need 3g at all any more (CDMA) and we can get VoLTE and use the LTE band exclusively that will eliminate a lot of the incompatability between Verizon and GSM carriers .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When we get to that point, Verizon will basically be a GSM carrier. Considering LTE is just an evolution GSM, both developed by 3GPP.
camaroz28 said:
When we get to that point, Verizon will basically be a GSM carrier. Considering LTE is just an evolution GSM, both developed by 3GPP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When it gets to that point, the question is will LTE then become open so Google can sell a Nexus that works on every network without carriers involved?
Schoat333 said:
When it gets to that point, the question is will LTE then become open so Google can sell a Nexus that works on every network without carriers involved?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not just Google...all the manufacturers could do it. But...don't get your hopes up. That situation is not in the carriers' nor major manufacturers' interests, and they sit on the standards bodies. No one represents the users/customers.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43469207&postcount=11
samsung GS4
scott14719 said:
If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon does use sim cards I am in the process of trying to unlock
SCH-I545 On T-Mobile
i Have This phone running on T-Mobile and have notice it does pick up AWS but very limied when compared to a T-Mobile branded phone... im wondering if anyone has tested flashing the T-Mobile modem??
---------- Post added at 04:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:56 AM ----------
No need to unlock just go into settings on the phone and under mobile networks their should be a tab that says prefered network.... click it and select global....
Does anyone one know the exact details on the verizon model, regarding what frequencies and bands it supports.
Does the GS4 come unlocked from verizon, do you need to call and get it unlocked. I bought mine for the full price.
Under settings>mobile networks: it has an option for global & GSM mode. I wonder what GSM frequencies it support.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=6754
Go to the specs tab and look under Specifications then Network. It tells you all the bands it supports etc.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Verizon Galaxy s4 will not switch to band 4 LTE. I think verizon will release a firmware update to enable band 4 LTE
I live in the California AT&T service area. I have been trying to find out the 4G and LTE bands on the intl and ATT Versions. If I buy the intl version will it be compatible with AT&T LTE bands? Ideally I would like to buy the intl version so that I can get the OS updates when Samsung releases them without waiting the extra time for AT&T to release the upgrade. I also dont want the AT&T bloatware.
gravyplaya said:
I live in the California AT&T service area. I have been trying to find out the 4G and LTE bands on the intl and ATT Versions. If I buy the intl version will it be compatible with AT&T LTE bands? Ideally I would like to buy the intl version so that I can get the OS updates when Samsung releases them without waiting the extra time for AT&T to release the upgrade. I also dont want the AT&T bloatware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
International variant, as long as it supports the LTE bands. I even converted my M8 into Developer Edition because I disliked the bloatware from AT&T and because OTAS take soooo long to appear with AT&T branded devices.
Does anyone know if the intl version supports att lte?
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
I'm thinking about doing the same thing and buying the international variant. I have a Moto X Pure Edition, and I love not having carrier bloatware.
Sent from my ATRIX HD using XDA Free mobile app
Does anyone know whether the radios for AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and international version are different, such as with the LG G3? Normally gsmarena has info on the frequencies, but nothing is on there yet. Thanks
The unlocked international version supports the following AT&T LTE frequency/bands:
850/5
1900/2
The following are all of AT&T frequency/bands:
700/12,17
850/5
1700,2100/4
1900/2
I do not know if the model specific and locked to ATT supports all of their bands or remains identical to the international unlocked version. I do know different bands can be activated via firm ware update, like Moto did with the 2nd gen Moto X. The pure edition got updated to support all of ATT bands instead of just a couple.
From the T-mobile website for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
Quad Band GSM;
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17;
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850), Band VIII (900)
From the AT&T site for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 29 and 30
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So the AT&T version seems to cover more bases in terms of LTE coverage e.g. for those wanting LTE coverage in the UK too, the T-mobile version will work on 3 (3) and EE (3 and 7), whereas the AT&T version will work on 3 (3), EE (3 and 7), O2 (20) and Vodafone (20) [LTE bands shown in brackets]
holtenc said:
The unlocked international version supports the following AT&T LTE frequency/bands:
850/5
1900/2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
Where does one even order an international variant? I cannot find one anywhere?
Pure+ said:
Where does one even order an international variant? I cannot find one anywhere?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.clove.co.uk/
http://www.expansys.com/
Typically from UK but there are from other places too.
Pito
thanks, but i need to buy in US
Pure+ said:
thanks, but i need to buy in US
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can buy from
http://www.expansys-usa.com/
The International Unlocked version is a UK version that is Sim Unlocked and not attached to any carrier (no bloat and no carrier branding). You can't buy a US version unlocked anywhere in the US. Even the stores in the US that sell unlocked International versions are selling the UK one.
Pito
mp2ning said:
Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.mobicity.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-32gb-4g-lte.html#.VRm74_nF-LE
click the specs tab
Final official answer
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
What? T-Mobile version doesn't support band 12 LTE?
gravyplaya said:
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm... That's interesting because looking at the "Tech Specs" section for the Galaxy S6, as listed for ordering directly from Samsung in the UK, the Galaxy S6 appears to have support for all of the LTE and UMTS bands that are used by AT&T, here in the States:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/SM-G920FZKABTU
This info is listed on the above link for the Galaxy S6 (model SM-G920F), but (oddly) not for the Edge (SM-G925F) model. It shows the following bands as being supported:
2G GSM
GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS
B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800)
Unless there's something different about these bands due to the preceding "B" designation before the band number, it looks like the UK version should support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17, which is what AT&T are supposed to be using here in the States...
Not sure why Samsung doesn't list the "Tech Specs" on this site for the Edge model, but I would presume and hope they are identical to the Galaxy S6 SM-G920F model they list on their UK site.
Anyone have further details or insight into this? Hopefully I'm not misreading something and spreading erroneous info here!
mp2ning said:
Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is a link to Samsung UK and the specs for the international S6 version SM-G920F.
gravyplaya said:
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That doesn't sound right based on what I've read. This page says what AT&T uses:
"AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently"
Then according to this page the SM-G920F version in the UK does support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. This page (pdadb.net) here seems to show that the SM-G920I also supports those LTE bands. Then in comments on Android Central this page gravage says he owns a G920I and it works without a hitch.
Thoughts? I'm looking into getting the international version as well so I can avoid AT&T's crap.
sbrown23 said:
That doesn't sound right based on what I've read. This page says what AT&T uses:
"AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently"
Then according to this page the SM-G920F version in the UK does support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. This page (pdadb.net) here seems to show that the SM-G920I also supports those LTE bands. Then in comments on Android Central this page gravage says he owns a G920I and it works without a hitch.
Thoughts? I'm looking into getting the international version as well so I can avoid AT&T's crap.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I live in Mexico but AT&T's variant is the American version with most compatibility in both Mexico & US so I decided to buy that one and just converted it to Developer Edition. So now I have full connectivity without AT&T bloatware and quick OTAs. Hope it helps.