http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407422,00.asp
Can't say I'm surprised given our situation. Welcome to the club, nexus 7 owners! I bet Gary is going to need a vacation soon.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407422,00.asp
Can't say I'm surprised given our situation. Welcome to the club, nexus 7 owners! I bet Gary is going to need a vacation soon.
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Good grief . Has there ever been a perfect launch for any device of this type (Apple included)????? Mine is working great and I am happy with my purchase.
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What a nice subset of the TF201's problems...
ASUS, you are dead to me.
Most people in my poll on here seem happy with theirs...
I feel bad for those that ended up with a prob but mine is flawless compared to my Prime..
The only problem that I see is a shortage in most stores and the corresponding rise in price. So this so-called problems is not the reason buyers don't have it yet.
Sure. In a few weeks Gary will report how the defect rate ia less than 1% –just like the Prime was. Holy crap, if ANYONE didn't see THIS ONE coming, they must have been in a coma the last 6 months. Infinity will be slightly better, only because of price, but one thing is obvious. ASUS TABLETS ARE CRAP. I jus cannot imagine how Google bought into them. Must have spoke with Gary and Demandarin, lol!
Edit. Oh, and I speak from experience, exchanged 4 TF101s, 2 TF201s, and my Prime has been more bs than any single device I have ever owned. Now we get to hear from all the "my Nexus 7 works perfectly!" folks. Well, bully for you. Asus should get out of the tablet biz and do us all a favor. A year ago, I was singing their praises too. Wait a while. It gets really interesting a couple of months into production, when they start acting like a) they care and b) they are competent. Trust me they do not and are not.
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Don't get it twisted dude, Manufacturing problems and hardware issues because of design are two different things. I own a Prime with crap wifi/BT, so I know.
It's a $200 tablet, what did people expect? Asus can't even QC their $500 tablets correctly. It is a shame when the tablet that costs half performs better
My nexus 7 works perfectly and no defects. Just unlocked and rooted it also.
With that said, this thread has nothing to do with prime. Only another thread full of rants.
You know what time it is anyhow. Thread closing time
It's disingenuous to say this thread has nothing to do with the Prime. This is Asus' highest profile device since the Prime, and it's only natural for us Prime owners to wonder if they've gotten their act together at all. It doesn't look like they have.
I kind of wish it would have been Acer and not Asus, just with a bigger battery. Makes me sad that Acer has not really got any good props for making quality tabs.
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none of these problems appear to be issues with the Nexus 7's design
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Unlike the Primes aluminum back.
I had the exact same issue with the screen creaking and separating from the main body and had it sent back for a DOA assessment from JB Hi-Fi. Asus tried to repair it and after a month I still have absolutely no idea where the hell it is.
I don't see how ASUS gained such a reputation of having great quality in the first place.
The TF201 was my first ASUS purchase, but I recall in the past when they made only motherboards, they weren't the best. There was three other Taiwanese manufactures that were and still are superior in my books. Gigabyte, MSI and TYAN.
As far a notebooks go, SONY and HP was always the cutting edge in this arena for personal users while Dell and IBM/Lenovo for businesses.
and as far as home electronic devices go, SAMSUNG overtook SONY in this arena.
So how did ASUS get plucked out of the list of manufacturers. In my opinion Google should stuck with SAMSUNG in the Nexus 7 tablet.
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So how did ASUS get plucked out of the list of manufacturers. In my opinion Google should stuck with SAMSUNG in the Nexus 7 tablet.
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That's simple. Asus was the only manufacturer able to make the tablet at such a low price point. You know, because eliminating all forms of quality control saves a lot of money.
This is the TF201 forum, please use the Nexus 7 forum for this kind of threads.
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I have a strong feeling that there are some Apple employees or contractors spreading negative info about the Prime here at XDA. Wouldn't be hard for them to do and nearly impossible for us to detect. Just saying.
I think if the few main points they are pointing out turn out to be minor or overly exaggerated, (ie. Sound sucking, battery dying fast, price to high for the market, etc.), then it will be an iPad killer or come very close.
Note: Hate to use the "iKiller" phrase because apple has a place and a market regardless, but I digress.
Then I guess they're doing a bad job 'cause I'm still buying one!
It's not Apple employees. It's just Apple fanbois and zealots. It's more religion than anything for some of this deranged folks who don't feel right until they have everyone "converted". Facts and rational arguments don't matter, because it's a sin to like Android. "Think Different" is really "Think Apple, Amen".
I have no problem with Apple, as Ghandi said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.".
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Then I guess they're doing a bad job 'cause I'm still buying one!
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That about says it all.
Up until the past few days everything put out about the Prime was PR from Asus. That and a few specific demos of games. As hands-on tests are released there's bound to be some negatives uncovered. It's not natural if there weren't. One could say that the fanboys aren't those seeking real-time feedback even if it's not positive but those that are blindly defending a product that's not even in the hands of conumers yet. And like someone said in another thread, there can be big differences from one review to another. The Galaxy Nexus was hailed as the second coming of Christ. Now that it's out it's clearly not perfect compared to the anticipation and PR. I for one want to get feedback from owners after they've used the Prime for a while. That's what XDA does best.
It was Steve Jobs himself .. He was here ... Look at your back ... There! There he is!
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It's not Apple employees. It's just Apple fanbois and zealots. It's more religion than anything for some of this deranged folks who don't feel right until they have everyone "converted". Facts and rational arguments don't matter, because it's a sin to like Android. "Think Different" is really "Think Apple, Amen".
I have no problem with Apple, as Ghandi said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.".
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Up until the past few days everything put out about the Prime was PR from Asus. That and a few specific demos of games. As hands-on tests are released there's bound to be some negatives uncovered. It's not natural if there weren't. One could say that the fanboys aren't those seeking real-time feedback even if it's not positive but those that are blindly defending a product that's not even in the hands of conumers yet. And like someone said in another thread, there can be big differences from one review to another. The Galaxy Nexus was hailed as the second coming of Christ. Now that it's out it's clearly not perfect compared to the anticipation and PR. I for one want to get feedback from owners after they've used the Prime for a while. That's what XDA does best.
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I couldn't agree more. I have been slightly disappointed to hear some of the negatives about the Prime; especially in the Anandtech review when compared to the ipad2. That doesn't mean that I'm not really excited about this product. I don't need it to be a Jesus-tablet. I would just like it to be a really nice high end Android device that i will enjoy using for a long time (relatively of course). So, I for one haven't cancelled my order. I also haven't seen any Apple fanboys on these threads yet. Of course, I did remove my tin foil helmet some time ago so that could have something to do with it too.
I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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which tests are you talking about exactly?
i would say most issues aside from hardware design issues stem from honeycomb and how crappy that version of android is as far as optimization and design goes.
hopefully ICS will fix a lot of the really big issues that HC has yet to even address.
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I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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IMHO, the point of the Transformer Prime is all about the *convenience*. For example, no one buys a MBA for its speed; even a $600 laptop would be faster.
The Transformer doesn't have to be better than the iPad or an ultrabook/MBA. But when you're on the road or wherever, carrying the Transformer will be heckuva lot more convenient than carrying both the iPad and MBA.
The whole is more than the some of its part. That's why the original Transformer has won awards such as tablet of the year, laptop of the year and device of the year!
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I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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these are my thoughts as well, it makes me really uneasy about buying this thing.
which at first i thought blew ipad2 out of the water.
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these are my thoughts as well, it makes me really uneasy about buying this thing.
which at first i thought blew ipad2 out of the water.
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I'm usually first in line for new and shiny tech. For a second-gen tablet, I'm going to wait a bit. Here's my thinking: 1) I want to see what people's real experiences are with Teg 3, 2) I want to see what the performance difference is with ICS irrespective of h/w, and 3) Acer, Lenovo, and HTC have all announced quad-cores with more RAM (2GB) and higher res (1920 x 1152) displays which are probably going to become the new standard for high-end tablets. Qualcomm, TI, and Samsung are all working on next-gen chipsets too. For those with short memory, Nvidia was the worst of the dual-cores (except for gaming) and unless something's changed it probably pays to wait and see what the other chip makers come up with. Also getting a tablet launched with and optimized for ICS is preferable to a future update.
If you need a tablet right away, and don't currently have one, it makes sense to go with the Prime. If you have a first-gen tablet more choices are going to be available by Q1. And after reading the Amazon cancellation thread and some of the problems being reported by reviewers it seems that Asus is really rushing this puppy out in order to be first to market. Historically, that's never been good.
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I'm usually first in line for new and shiny tech. For a second-gen tablet, I'm going to wait a bit. Here's my thinking: 1) I want to see what people's real experiences are with Teg 3, 2) I want to see what the performance difference is with ICS irrespective of h/w, and 3) Acer, Lenovo, and HTC have all announced quad-cores with more RAM (2GB) and higher res (1920 x 1152) displays which are probably going to become the new standard for high-end tablets. Qualcomm, TI, and Samsung are all working on next-gen chipsets too. For those with short memory, Nvidia was the worst of the dual-cores (except for gaming) and unless something's changed it probably pays to wait and see what the other chip makers come up with. Also getting a tablet launched with and optimized for ICS is preferable to a future update.
If you need a tablet right away, and don't currently have one, it makes sense to go with the Prime. If you have a first-gen tablet more choices are going to be available by Q1. And after reading the Amazon cancellation thread and some of the problems being reported by reviewers it seems that Asus is really rushing this puppy out in order to be first to market. Historically, that's never been good.
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I think that is an astute observation. i don't have a tablet yet and now is the right time to buy for me. If I could find the original TF at a deeply discounted price I think I would probably go that route for now. As is, I guess I will stick with the prime. It is after-all a beautiful device with a lot of upsides at least.
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I think that is an astute observation. i don't have a tablet yet and now is the right time to buy for me. If I could find the original TF at a deeply discounted price I think I would probably go that route for now. As is, I guess I will stick with the prime. It is after-all a beautiful device with a lot of upsides at least.
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Watch this site: http://slickdeals.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9
Transformers, Iconias, Thrives, and K1s have popped up for as low as $250 NIB for the holidays. If you get one, it would be a great transitional tablet until you have more choices for second-gen tablets available. You could probably turn around and sell it for close to what you paid via eBay or Craigslist after using it for a few months. But I totally agree that if you're paying retail the Prime is the best of what's out now.
I think more than a few of us are disgusted by their actions today. As much as I love the software upgrade cycle, this indignity is too much.
sick post bro.. should make this a sticky.
Cool story, butthurt bro.
This is basically what happens to early adopters.
Suck it up.
so we should be disgusted asus made us the first ics tablet in the USA, and gave it 3 days earlier than promised? confused...
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Sorry, I've been bitten by the early adopter bug before, this is different.
I've never heard of a product coming out having the issues with performance that the Prime has had, had the manufacturer admit it and have there answer to be taking the features off the cut sheet and announcing an updated model a week later.
I almost forgave them for the TF101 dock not being compatible even though they said it would work with future updates. The pattern of dishonorable lies shows itself.
Keeping my prime... when it comes in eventually.
And probably moving to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab when it comes out this summer.
Honestly they are 2 different products with different pricing structures.
Furthermore, the new Prime comes out 4 months (or more) from now.
The way electronics are moving, a company has a right to upgrade its specs with a new device at a higher price in 4 months.
Imagine Samsung would introduce the Galaxy s3 in April / May. Do you think everyone who got an s2 last month would go mad?
Get used to technology - anything you buy will be obsolete, it's just a matter of when.
What actions?
Releasing ICS?
I will be keeping mine
Post update Prime is awesome!!! Totally different machine
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Honestly they are 2 different products with different pricing structures.
Furthermore, the new Prime comes out 4 months (or more) from now.
The way electronics are moving, a company has a right to upgrade its specs with a new device at a higher price in 4 months.
Imagine Samsung would introduce the Galaxy s3 in April / May. Do you think everyone who got an s2 last month would go mad?
Get used to technology - anything you buy will be obsolete, it's just a matter of when.
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For them to say "This isn't a professional GPS device" and then take GPS off the cut sheet is sad. The GPS doesn't even work enough for most people using apps with Geo-location.
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Imagine Samsung would introduce the Galaxy s3 in April / May. Do you think everyone who got an s2 last month would go mad?
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Samsung is introducing the Galaxy S3 in April?!? Those bastards!!!
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For them to say "This isn't a professional GPS device" and then take GPS off the cut sheet is sad. The GPS doesn't even work enough for most people using apps with Geo-location.
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I agree.
If GPS is your problem then I am sure you can return it and wait to buy the new one or something else.
That wasn't professional of them, but they admitted the mistake and I am sure they will take it back.
For 99% of the people though, GPS on a wi fi tablet is not an issue.
The Ipad doesn't even have it, and no one ever complained (then again, those are sheeps, not customers...)
I'm completely disgusted by their behaviour, so I went ahead and cancelled my order. I'm sure I'll be equally as disgusted when I have the TF700T in my hands.
Hell no, it's a great tablet.
As long as we have devs working on the prime for the foreseeable future (read: atleast another year or so) I would stick to my guns with the present Transformer prime.
Can I vote for "No and will everyone stop making all these pointless threads already"?
another nonsense post...totally happy with Asus and the prime...
Part of me is so sad seeing threads like this since I, and majority of the users here, don't even have Prime yet.
The problem is that the announcement was missing part. They should have announced a trade-in program for existing TF201 users who have the word GPS on the box, or offered to replace the back of the TF201 with the plastic version. Instead they announce an "upgrade" less than a month after the TF201s release and subsequent PR nightmare, that just happens to have the plastic back that would have fixed the current tablet. The timing of it makes me think the plastic back was meant for the TF201 but they didnt want to take the TF201s out of the box and replace the backs.
I paid for GPS. I expected GPS functionally identical or superior to the first generation TF101. I was not given the GPS I paid for. Furthermore, they have done NOTHING to apologize. They have not given me a refund, or even offered me a special coupon towards a friggin accessory. My ass hurts, doesn't yours?
Furthermore you can expect that this tablet won't have much in the way of community support. I suspect they have already halted production on this device. They might release a TF201 Rev. B with GPS removed altogether, or a plastic back, but we probably won't see any more. Oh wait, they did that already, it's called a TF700. This TF201 will likely be something of a collectors item With the TF101 on the lowend and the "highend" TF201 being replaced by the TF700 I don't expect there will be much of a market for the TF201. The only saving grace for the TF201 will be if the similar hardware means that ROMs for the TF700 work on the TF201.
Maybe if everyone returns their primes , I'll be the only one with one.
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http://www.slashgear.com/fujitsu-roadmap-reveals-transformer-prime-rival-more-16213769/
It seems like every company is trying to make a tablet now.
What next, the bose ultra sound enhanced tablet with free CD changer dock?
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It seems like every company is trying to make a tablet now.
What next, the bose ultra sound enhanced tablet with free CD changer dock?
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OH LAWD PLEASE!
Lol, at least Bose would put more than one speaker into their media consumption device! And if not, it would be a damn good one speaker
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The problem with some device manufacturers is they have no ongoing commitment. They'll test the waters and if things go well they'll continue and they'll pull out if they don't. Sharp's been in and out of Android tablets twice. The only one's I see committed are Asus, Samsung, and Motorola. HTC and LG have a reason to stay invested because of the similarity to phones (3G) but their first devices have been kind of meh. In spite of the A510 and A700, Acer's cut their Android development staff in half. And if a manufacturer's not invested their not going to keep up with OS upgrades and there will be weak or no dev support.
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The problem with some device manufacturers is they have no ongoing commitment. They'll test the waters and if things go well they'll continue and they'll pull out if they don't. Sharp's been in and out of Android tablets twice. The only one's I see committed are Asus, Samsung, and Motorola. HTC and LG have a reason to stay invested because of the similarity to phones (3G) but their first devices have been kind of meh. In spite of the A510 and A700, Acer's cut their Android development staff in half. And if a manufacturer's not invested their not going to keep up with OS upgrades and there will be weak or no dev support.
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Lenovo seems like they are here to stay
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Lenovo seems like they are here to stay
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Lenovo sux though and has no developement support what so ever here in xda, basically. Just like the Toshiba thrive(which I almost purchased before the prime but were sold out. Glad I didn't get it..lol). Lenovo pushes out updates veryy slowly. One of their devices that's been out for the longest time is not seeing ICS till summertime.
Only thing I used to be impressed with was the rumored Lenovo tab that had a dock. The one they had all the cool demo videos on. This was way back before I even got my Ipad about 2 years ago. Man it was soon cool looking. I think was even before OG transformer was released. That idea had soon much potential and would've been the first real transformer tablet, per se. Constant delays n such n i don't think it never really saw light of day or specs were seriously dumbed down into current Lenovo tabs now.
Same deal with the Legendary Microsoft Courier tablet. Dual screen. The tech demo was sick! I wanted that so badly man. Was really disappointed to hear Microsoft decided not to make it. This was all around the time of first Ipad release. I tried my hardest to get anything but an Ipad bit in the end, at that time, Ipad was the the best tablet out period. And ended up liking it very much. So much I waited basically 2 yrs. To get a new tablet. Being the Prime I own. Now we at a point in time where Ipad isn't the only or best choice out there. Several great android tablets to compete and be a good alternative to Ipad. If galaxy tab 7.7 would've released earlier, I might would've had that instead of prime. I was really impressed with its specs and newer processor in it compared to other Samsung tablets out. I will get a Galaxy note once it releases shortly for AT&T. Gotta upgrade my Atrix n get a Phablet instead.
Like Barry said, I'd be Leary of new comers to Android sector. No guarantee on continued support plus lack of experience. That new Sony dual screen tablet is very cool. Only drawback is that it still has an outdated tegra2 in it. Love the clamshell fold up it has. Can easily slip in a coat pocket or whatever.
But Damn, I wish the Microsoft Courier would've became reality. Lol. Still to this day, one of the coolest tablet designs I've seen. If you've seen that tech demo on it, you would know how cool it was and that was years ago.
This a longer version of previous video. This could've revolutionized tablet computing.
Edit: here's the Lenovo tablet from 2yrs. Ago I use to get so hyped over. The U1 Hybrid. This blew away the Ipad in my mind. One of the coolest tech demos out and music great also....damn man...brought back memories finding this SMH
Hmmm.. Fujitsu.. These are people with great resources and massive tech expertise. Hope they stay.
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I'm potentially getting a used one today to replace my iPad. I'm moving from the apple ecosystem to android. Had an android phone now for a while and would rather have a tablet as well versus incomplete syncing of the two.
I last had an android tab in January and the app scene was very bad for tablets, and I read the prime had a lot of issues.
Did either resolve?
I'm getting it cheap, so I don't mind the infinity coming out and may switch to it later. But want to get a head start on moving my extensive ecosystem to google
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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Wow... Sadly I don't know an alternative non-7 inch android tablet...
I feel your pain, as I'm also interested in a 10" tablet with plenty of storage, and there are no great options at this point. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. Between the slow ass I/O issues that they obviously can't fix, the firmware releases that keep fixing one thing and breaking 3 others, the cheap parts used (search the forum for LCD mura), the poor design choices (good luck connecting to a far away Wifi signal), and the terrible support (read some of the horrible RMA stories here), I wouldn't touch another Asus product with a 10 foot pole.
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maybe the best will be to wait a lil bit more and see the TF700. But in any case, I really don't see the point of buying the Tf201 right now, with the 300 offering a very similar experience (imho there some quite recognisable slow downs overally speaking but it's still close enough for the price difference) for a cheaper price, and the Tf700 to be shipped in the following weeks. For those proficient in french, here is a test of the device
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/tablet...pad-infinity-tf700-avec-dock-p13514/test.html
and as far as the wifi goes, it's as smooth and stable as the 300 (if not better). So no matter how many software updates Asus is going to throw at us, it is highly unlikely that our beloved prime Tf201 (yes I still love the tablet even though it pisses me bigtime to have such a mediocre wifi connectivity) going to achieve that performance.
I would look into Samsung if i could do it again or Acer Iconia as a close second.
I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
I have two primes and one 300. I like them all. My unlocked prime with wookie ROM is the best. It is faster than my laptop. Why not buy a prime if your getting it for a good price?
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I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
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I generally agree with jj here.. I love my Prime. Yes, there's a few little quirks here and there, but nothing as world ending as some people would have you believe. Compared to the other devices on the market, I'd still go with this one if I had to again.
(Now, if a Nexus 10 comes out.. mmm.. bets might be off
As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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That and I just can't see anyone (in their right mind) that would post positive "complaints" on a developer/troubleshooting forum...
My $.02: I have it, it's OK. I would not buy one again. Basically when you buy a Prime keep in mind that you're buying an "almost ready for beta" product.
Bottom line: if you don't mind beta testing for ASUS (yes, 8 months later and we're still beta testing) then go for it!
If you're getting it for $300 or under then do it. Otherwise go for a Galaxy Tab.
Go for it! been loving mines since I got it in dec. not everyone has issues. jjdevega summed it up best.
I think you have to accept the mindset that you are going to have to tweak your Prime to get everything just right. Coming from an iPad this will be a different experience.
Personally I have experienced all the issues mentioned above on my Prime. I even RMA'd and refunded my 1st unit. However, I have been having a lot of fun applying the different tweaks and experimenting with what works best for my individual use case. I can tell you that my Prime is absolutely BLAZING right now - it is completely stable and performance is beyond my expectations.
I was pessimistic for a long time, but now I know I prefer having the options (because of an amazing developer community) to tinker and modify.
If this is appealing to you, the Prime is a great choice.
well , i think i have been top complainer on the prime. However i love this tablet.
its not perfect yet but i trust in asus that they start working on it now the google tablet is done.
some weeks ago i was really pessimistic but developers like wookie, motley baboo, ckhtml and more, and demandarin for his help with submitting issues, gave back hope.
and tbh, asus support has been great since tf101 however something went realy wrong with ICS on both devices , cant ignore that.
conclusion: for a good price i would buy it. buy with s/n c4 or higher.
keep calm and see what asus is offering in the future. their new devices is still kinda like in beta mode, endless problems waiting to be fixed. im not even sure nexus 7 is safe to use. best is hold ur horses and see what others review abt it.
the TF700T is supposed to come out next month at $499, which is what the prime sells for new right now. so I would keep this in mind when buying a used prime...
I have had my Prime since December and it has been fine. However right now I would recommend waiting until Mid-July and buying the TF Infinity. It will start at the same base price ($500) has a better screen and a plastic panel that should fix any wifi/gps problems people have had with the Prime. Plus it is compatible with practically all TF-Prime accessories including the keyboard dock.
Right now that is likely to be the best choice for a 10" Android tablet.
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If money isn't an concern, I would get a prime.
I as well moved from the IPAD. It's great for what I use it for, however my wife uses it as well.
I wanted her to have her own and so I started the search for another tablet that would suit the needs I have.
After roughly three months of research it came down to two things.
Either buying a Transformer Prime or TF300. Or waiting for the TF700 to hit in July.
Personally I've seen hi-res screens, unless your a graphics designer and your going to do EXTREME graphics rendering and modeling
(which at that point you should be using a PC or MAC desktop - my thoughts that is. )
then getting the Prime is the way to go. I got mine a few days ago, and it's done everything my IPad can do + some, no issues with Wifi - havent tested the GPS because I don't need it for that.
I've used several SD cards and again no issues what so ever.
The ONLY thing I will say in making your decision, is always get the bigger storage size, I have the 64gb and It's EXACTLY what I want / need!
nyijedi said:
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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i second this... i have had it with Asus. i was one of the first one to get Prime cause i love android. but Asus's ability to integrate the software is driving me crazy. and not to mention how they handled GPS issue... me personally are jumping ship back to ipad..... at least i won't get ANR everything 10mins.....
I'm also happy with the prime so far. My only concern about is that after months of daily using I really see a big advantage in the 7 inch form factor in many use cases. There was a great video interview with Matias Duarte on the verge about the design of the nexus 7 tablet two days ago or so and it nailed it on the head. So my next tablet will be the Nexus one, but I'll keep the prime as well.
Just pre-ordered a nexus 7 from google. I wondered if anyone else has after their experiences with our other asus based tab?
Benchmarks look to be better than the infinity even- on some tests!
I am thinking that google must have tons of spit and polish into this to release it themselves. Hoping for a much better experience on this one than I had on the prime, thinking that the finger pointing will stop asus=>google=>nvidia or nvidia=>google=>asus.
Also noticed that the stupid proprietary asus port is gone in favor of micro-usb!
Review on engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/
I will first thing tomorrow morning. too good of a deal to pass up. ive seen i/o scores also. seems like they got it right or has updated drivers n such. might be due to jellybean firmware also.
Look at anandtech & slashgear review of it. they love it.
No chance in hell. Asus has lost me as a customer for good. I just read an article about how they made the Nexus 7 in 4 months. I hope Google was keeping a close eye on them, because I have no confidence this thing won't be a piece of garbage like the Prime.
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No chance in hell. Asus has lost me as a customer for good. I just read an article about how they made the Nexus 7 in 4 months. I hope Google was keeping a close eye on them, because I have no confidence this thing won't be a piece of garbage like the Prime.
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Asus have had a 7" tablet in development for way longer than 4 months. I suspect the development of the MeMO dovetailed into the Nexus 7 quite nicely.
Ordered my Nexus 7 last night - had an original Galaxy Tab, and I love the 7" Form factor. A 7" Transformer would be the absolute nuts!
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No chance in hell. Asus has lost me as a customer for good. I just read an article about how they made the Nexus 7 in 4 months. I hope Google was keeping a close eye on them, because I have no confidence this thing won't be a piece of garbage like the Prime.
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I am not convinced that the prime is garbage, through all of the issues- the thing shows promise, they just did not do enough homework. They may have gotten it right this time.
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foxmeister;28016771[B said:
]Asus have had a 7" tablet in development for way longer than 4 months. I suspect the development of the MeMO dovetailed into the Nexus 7 quite nicely. [/B]
Ordered my Nexus 7 last night - had an original Galaxy Tab, and I love the 7" Form factor. A 7" Transformer would be the absolute nuts!
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Google Nexus 7 developed in just 4 months, sold essentially at cost price
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-developed-just-4-months-sold-essentially-cost-price
Nope !
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Google Nexus 7 developed in just 4 months, sold essentially at cost price
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-developed-just-4-months-sold-essentially-cost-price
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that article praises Asus. Google themselves said no other company could pull it off in that time period and make a great device like the Nexus 7 is. Asus is the one who made it happen.
I feel your concern about your prime experience and being skeptical on another product. but its already been shown the 300 is good, infinity pad now toted top Android tablet and everything good on it. then now the nexus tablet. which has been receiving rave reviews so far. it performs better than alot of high end tablets in certain areas. including the prime, 300, and infinity pad.
plus you have Google as the big brother looking over this. the nexus 7 is Google's baby. they will make sure its in good hands. I will be ordering one tomorrow morning. too good of a deal, based on specs and performance, to pass up.
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that article praises Asus. Google themselves said no other company could pull it off in that time period and make a great device like the Nexus 7 is. Asus is the one who made it happen.
I feel your concern about your prime experience and being skeptical on another product. but its already been shown the 300 is good, infinity pad now toted top Android tablet and everything good on it. then now the nexus tablet. which has been receiving rave reviews so far. it performs better than alot of high end tablets in certain areas. including the prime, 300, and infinity pad.
plus you have Google as the big brother looking over this. the nexus 7 is Google's baby. they will make sure its in good hands. I will be ordering one tomorrow morning. too good of a deal, based on specs and performance, to pass up.
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Besides the Asus fanboy rhetoric from demandarin, it looks like a great tab and I can't fault Asus too much since they are one of the few companies willing to stand behind their tablets with active members in these forms and frequent updates( even though the updates have not fixed all of the issues/ made certain things worse). They are trying- and I can't help but feel that it actually does boil down to the asus/ google/nvidia relationship.
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pre-ordered mine
for $199 it's going to be epic. Granted, I'm mad it doesn't have an SD slot, but that doesn't matter at that price point. I know the tegra 3 can handle what I want, what is essentially a content viewer.
I'm going to wait before I buy it & see what real world customers have to say about it not tech sites.....fool me twice......
Also I read the 8gb has only like 5gb of free space!
http://www.landofdroid.com/2012/uh-oh-googles-8gb-nexus-7-is-actually-5-92gb/
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I'm going to wait before I buy it & see what real world customers have to say about it not tech sites.....fool me twice......
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This about sums it up for me.. I refuse to buy another ASUS product outright after my 201 but if there's no major hardware faults after launch and I can find one cheap on CL or something then might give it a shot
I was very excited but that all came to an end with the small disk space and no sd slot. Great a WiFi only device and DEPENDS on the internet for streaming media...
So I can use it in my home or drain my phone battery with the WiFi hotspot.
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I am planing on pre-ordering once I can make sure I will have the funds to do so.
Considering I was planning on getting a kindle fire soon going after the nexus 7 seemed more logical. As long I as I have 16gb of space I don't think I will really fill it. With all the cloud storage and if the OTG cable will work I won't have any complaints.
Please use the Nexus 7 fora for talking about it.
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