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I was thinking of porting HTC Sense ROM to Play... Are you interested?
To do:
* Port ROM
* HTC kernel
Blagus said:
Also, I have to update with actual porting progress:
1) Sense 3.0 ROM is HUGE, update.zip size is about 450MB
2) update.zip installation fails when trying to write /system
To assume:
We cannot repartition phone due to S1Boot restrictions, so I quit from Sense 3.0, guess I'll have to switch to 2.1
Mainly because:
* ease of job
* no need to fill up /data
* 450MB means there would be almost no space for other apps
* 450MB would take several hours to upload on my 256kbps up speed (although down is 4Mbit - say thanks to the marketing and profit stuff of my operator)
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Best regards
Yes please blagus, i can test bootloader unlocked and ready to go XD
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SAME HERE!!!!!
I will be happy to test it for you
Not to be a spoilsport, but I'd rather like you to keep improving your kernel. We'll never get the real deal of Sense since it's not OS, and it's hard to say it's really superior to other UI's.
Of course, you're entitled to do as you please, and if I can be of help with this project you can count on me.
Logseman said:
Not to be a spoilsport, but I'd rather like you to keep improving your kernel. We'll never get the real deal of Sense since it's not OS, and it's hard to say it's really superior to other UI's.
Of course, you're entitled to do as you please, and if I can be of help with this project you can count on me.
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My opinion exactly, I support the cyanogenmod because it's likely to stay up to date in the future. Also, I don't really care for the sense ui personally.
I was secretly hoping you would be looking into camera support
I'd be happy to help with testing now and then though.
Logseman said:
Not to be a spoilsport, but I'd rather like you to keep improving your kernel. We'll never get the real deal of Sense since it's not OS, and it's hard to say it's really superior to other UI's.
Of course, you're entitled to do as you please, and if I can be of help with this project you can count on me.
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personally i love HTC sense and would love a port for our plays, even if its not a true sense rom
not all of us enjoy the stock feel of cyanogenmod and i personally wouldn't mind if you dropped cyanogen all together in favour of sense although i no that wont happen
just my opinion, you can put the sharp pitch forks down now
silvacrest said:
personally i love HTC sense and would love a port for our plays, even if its not a true sense rom
not all of us enjoy the stock feel of cyanogenmod and i personally wouldn't mind if you dropped cyanogen all together in favour of sense although i no that wont happen
just my opinion, you can put the sharp pitch forks down now
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+1 Id love sence on the play, and all the little extras you get with it, T9 dialer, the sms and email app, the widgets
Sense on the play would be nice, so if you need testers i am here
Im with you Blagus!!
btw m8 there is an OC kernal (1.8ghz) in arc dev forum. Can you check it out and if there is possibility to port for play??
i would also love to see a sense rom
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Wait a sec. guys....are we talking here about sense 3.0 ? óô
Yes please Blagus! Telling you, you're some man for one man!
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Wait a sec. guys....are we talking here about sense 3.0 ? óô
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yes hope so
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Blagus,
While it sounds interesting, I would much prefer you put your time and effort into cracking the bootloaders on locked phones (especially us schmucks that bought R800x's).
Maybe I'm just old school, or burned in the past by MotoBLUR. But I don't see why you'd want to add more bloat to the phone?
Mogul345 said:
Blagus,
While it sounds interesting, I would much prefer you put your time and effort into cracking the bootloaders on locked phones (especially us schmucks that bought R800x's).
Maybe I'm just old school, or burned in the past by MotoBLUR. But I don't see why you'd want to add more bloat to the phone?
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Sense is arguable the best UI a third party has developed for android. Its a nice level of polish to the user experience and unifies the look and feel of the OS regardless of what version of android you're using. Obviously there are features added with each iteration of android, and there are features added and removed from the various versions of sense. But at the end of the day, Sense is a very clean and friendly UI that simply streamlines pretty much all aspects of the software.
Unlocking bootloaders is useless if there are no devs/ testers willing to develop custom ROMs, and with no standard for flashing roms yet for the Xperia Play, this seems like an excellent endeavor for someone to undertake.
Cracking bootloaders in general is very VERY difficult, and in general require extreme amount of computer power and time to achieve. I've spent my time attempting to crack the Milestone's bootloader, and I've come to the conclusion that it would take 15million computing years to crack. RSA 1024bit encryption is a tough cookie to crack. Obviously the Xperia Play's bootloader could be much simpler, but without sufficient demand, there's no point.
Would love to see this happen!
The same here
When this gets true ill go buy an play instead of galaxy s2
first i thought to make it here, but file would be too big for regular daily bugfixing uploads. i'll get my hands on phone first and test it there before publishing.
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Well well well....we asked for S-off/root and we got it. Within hours the ROMs flooded the dev page.
I loved this phone from the minute I got it. ROMs are making it better. CM7 and MIUI are coming at which point I will probably run around my neighborhood in my skivvies screaming about it.
I have one gripe though. Why are there SOOOO many ROMs? I know everyone wants to get their hands dirty at doing dev work. It makes you the cool kid on the block, and there's a good chance that if you put one on XDA, CheesyNutz will flash it at least once.
I feel like the ROMs are too hard to choose from because most of them are similar, with some being almost exactly the same with minor differences.
This is what I propose. First of all, maybe someone with more ambition than me (read: anyone) could put together a comparison chart of all the ROMs based on the features they have. Using that data, maybe some of the devs that have similar direction/are trying to achieve the same thing can collaborate.
The way I see it, there will be less confusion on the development page, with better ROMs that have more options.
TL;DR - Devs need to collab. on ROMs to reduce clutter and improve ROMs
Oh God. You're not seriously *****ing about too many choices are you?
there is an insane amount of roms, lol most of them offer alot of the same things..but I say, the more roms...THE BETTER!!!!!
Variety is the spice of life...
So you complain about having to look through the ROMs that people develop for your phone (for free) you want a chart made with all the comparisons of those free ROMs but you want somebody else to do it for you? What's wrong with this picture?
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So you complain about having to look through the ROMs that people develop for your phone (for free) you want a chart made with all the comparisons of those free ROMs but you want somebody else to do it for you? What's wrong with this picture?
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This. +1.
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OP I think you should give your EVO 3D to somebody on XDA and go get yourself an iPhone.
playslikepage71 said:
Well well well....we asked for S-off/root and we got it. Within hours the ROMs flooded the dev page.
I loved this phone from the minute I got it. ROMs are making it better. CM7 and MIUI are coming at which point I will probably run around my neighborhood in my skivvies screaming about it.
I have one gripe though. Why are there SOOOO many ROMs? I know everyone wants to get their hands dirty at doing dev work. It makes you the cool kid on the block, and there's a good chance that if you put one on XDA, CheesyNutz will flash it at least once.
I feel like the ROMs are too hard to choose from because most of them are similar, with some being almost exactly the same with minor differences.
This is what I propose. First of all, maybe someone with more ambition than me (read: anyone) could put together a comparison chart of all the ROMs based on the features they have. Using that data, maybe some of the devs that have similar direction/are trying to achieve the same thing can collaborate.
The way I see it, there will be less confusion on the development page, with better ROMs that have more options.
TL;DR - Devs need to collab. on ROMs to reduce clutter and improve ROMs
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Yeah i dont think people have more ambition than you since no one else is complainin' lol
The more devs on our device the better.
you gotta remember for a lot of the devs what there releasing now is really just a base for what they will be doing as things progress. over time you will start to see every devs individual preferences start to show along with the themes and all the eye candy some devs like.
phatmanxxl said:
The more devs on our device the better.
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right..i just came from the galaxy s 4g on tmobile, and there was literally like 2 roms over there..lol
that's usually what android development is for, to share one another their custom made rom, so no i dont think there are many roms yet, so bring it on!!!
You know what?. people like the OP disgust me. ya Commie..
I bet you think we should all just be happy with 1 ROM to use don'tcha Ruskie?!
Think it's totally ok for us all to just stand in line and wait for our daily allowance of bread, Comrade!?
HUH?!
THIS IS 'MURICA AND WE DON'T TAKE KINDLY TO YOUR TYPE 'ROUND THESE HERE PARTS!!
AAnnyways, I can see your point of view. There are several roms that seem the same right now. it's been barely a week since S-off and it's a very good sign that everyone is wanting to make ROM's, once everyone has their bases done we will see differences pop up, custom themes, ingenious tweaks, etc. Give it some time. The 3D scene is still young.
seriously????....
Im fixin to post my set up soon, so get ready for a phatman ROM. That's one more to the list. Probably the best one ever too.
B l a s p h e m y ! ! !
The more ROMS the Merryer
Theres too many moneys in my wallet gotta be a bad thing
Can't wait phatman it will be the slowest most bloated rom ever
If you don't have an Evo3d well... You ain't got ****e
get bent new guy
I can agree with the OP to an extent. For me, seeing the Dev forum say [ROM] after [ROM] after [ROM] is a bit overwhelming for me. But, it's just like any other free market. You're confronted with 40 brands of hot sauce, and damn, that's a lot, but you try one, see how it is, and choose based on that. The bonus of all of these ROMs is that A), they're available online, so you don't have to drive to the store, and B), they're free.
Just my 2 fiat cents.
[Q] What can we do get some more variety of roms & devs especially from original HOX?
Was just wondering if there's anything we can do to get some more dev's over to our HOX+ forum? Not that I don't appreciate the work that's already being done by current dev's.
i agree...especially to get some new roms our for AT&T models as well. im willing to help the devs in any way possible if itll get some fresh content out
This depends on what you are looking for and the devs ability to get a phone. The big AT&T issues is the TEGRA processor in the + versus the qualcom in the original.
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a dev won't build a Rom for a device they don't have in most case's bud
Theres not many x+ owners in general so a small dev community is expected
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monkboy24 said:
a dev won't build a Rom for a device they don't have in most case's bud
Theres not many x+ owners in general so a small dev community is expected
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Well that sucks since we paid a lot of money for a very high end phone and the phone only came out in europe in november so technically its still a VERY NEW phone yet it seems like the development community is for such a new and high end phone REALLY small... I expected a large dev community for such a high end expensive phone ... what a disappointed... especially when it comes to looking at the ORIGINAL development thread that's suppose to have aosp based roms and yet all i see is multiple roms being discontinued e.g. aokp 4.1 and miui rom... if things carry on the way there are and we keep loosing more devs than we receive the development community for this device will be virtually non existant ...
we need to do something about it... get some more devs from the Original One X thread over to the one x+ maybe chip in all together to get a popular well recognised dev over at our thread the way people did it for the viper x rom developers.... what you guys think?
AOKP 4.1 and CM10 got discontinued because of work being continued on CM10.1 and AOKP 4.2! we HAVE LIVES too, the amount of PM's i have gotten this week just because i went on a 4-5day holiday was horrendous! Either step up to the mark, help the dev's, or shut up!
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Also I just re-read what you said, seems you under value myself and max who have done a TON of work for this device!! You are just ungrateful! Quality over quantity every time
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Just to echo what Lloir said, if you think things could be done a certain way or at a faster pace........you could always roll up your sleeves and build it yourself!
Being on a number of devices and around this kind of thing for a while, I can tell you that if you keep on pushing and pissing off people like Lloir....you won't have him for too long!
It ain't nothing for someone like him to put his device on swappa or something and go develop for a device where the users are not as ungrateful as they seem to be here.
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Well that sucks since we paid a lot of money for a very high end phone and the phone only came out in europe in november so technically its still a VERY NEW phone yet it seems like the development community is for such a new and high end phone REALLY small... I expected a large dev community for such a high end expensive phone ... what a disappointed... especially when it comes to looking at the ORIGINAL development thread that's suppose to have aosp based roms and yet all i see is multiple roms being discontinued e.g. aokp 4.1 and miui rom... if things carry on the way there are and we keep loosing more devs than we receive the development community for this device will be virtually non existant ...
we need to do something about it... get some more devs from the Original One X thread over to the one x+ maybe chip in all together to get a popular well recognised dev over at our thread the way people did it for the viper x rom developers.... what you guys think?
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Here are my thoughts:
I think we have two of the *best* android developers in the XDA community (Lloir and Maxwen) developing for our device. The AT&T Hox+ has a not so friendly Tegra processor when it comes to development. Not sure if you have flashed the CM 10.1 ROM that Lloir and Maxwen have produced but it is rock solid for a "WIP" ROM. Something you very seldom see for a first release. Personally I am extremely thankful for the efforts these 2 guys give towards our device. Thanks Lloir! and thanks Maxwen for your kernel work.
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Oh my God, all i was trying to say was that it would be nice to have a bit more variety in our Dev community, this thread i created because i wanted to find out if there was anything we the community could do to increase our Dev community e.g. Get the community all donate so more devs could buy a one x+ etc... And in the first post i did actually wrote that i am grateful to current devs... Lloir you have seriously mis understood my comment! Words can not express how grateful i am to you doing so much work for our device and not just you but all the devs... As for the statement of roms being discontinued, i didn't know the reason and I'm sorry ... I really am. Please don't think that I'm an unapreciative person because that couldn't be further from the truth
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at first i must say i really believe he didn't want to seem ungrateful just like many other, but i think this is a problem, that is to be observed in many subforums of xda.
i guess this is mostly an iussue of missunderstanding what this forum really is.
in first place this is not somewhere to find lots of roms and tweaks for your exact device.
it's a place for development and sharing of it's results and we as users should do our best to contribute to the community as much as we can.
be it testing and giving feedback or for everyone who really is interested in extending the amount of choices: learn to get it done by yourself.
start with small steps like first java programms, simple apps for your device, theming and porting simple mods.
try to compile some kernels from git and maybe port an aosp based rom to this device.
learn how everything works, create by yourself, port, etc and share it.
and if you really don't know how to be helpful in any other way... just hit the thanks button and donate a little bit for something the devs have worked in their spare time.
Why has this been locked?? There are no ICS ROM's that are any good??? Santod's basic ROM is just debloated stock.....
I really don't understand why they find the need to play God around here.... There are no ROM's!!! At this point there is no reason for an XDA Thunderbolt page!
STOP LOCKING THREADS... WHO GIVES A CRAP THAT IT IS OFF SANTOD'S BASE... THIS IS WHY THE PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE ANDROID... TOO MUCH POLITICS AND BULL CRAP.. JUST LET THESE GUYS MAKE GOOD ROMS SO WE CAN ENJOY OURSELVES...
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING OFF OTHER PEOPLES WORK.. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S CELL PHONE SOFTWARE!
JESUS H CHRIST..,..
Where can I find this ROM now? It has been removed from roots wiki as well?
5 custom ICS roms and 4 stock roms >>> HERE
Look around, there is more then just a stock rom there.
Don't speak about something you do not know the details of.
XDA has rules, so do other sites and when it comes to disrespecting me and the source from which you got your materials from, I then have rules too.
Besides, I have been told numerous times now that what I contributed wasn't anything, and easy enough to do.
So there should be no problem with it standing in any real devs way.
They simply make their own base and move on.
So crying about it is unnecessary for anyone involved, including me.
Everyone just does their own thing and moves on, simple as that.
I am hating on you Santod.. I have a lot of respect for you and i am sure everyone does.. I am on your rom right now.. The non eternity one... And it is honestly awesome, i just want a more aosp rom, i know you have a desense rom in the making but it has been pulled for weeks now.. I wanted to see mack, you, and jester all make a combined kick ass rom.. I am crying because i just want to see the tbolt finally succeed and with the help of all you great devs and hopefully an htc source code release.. The day may come.. I think you should all work together... Everyone respects all the devs but its awesome to see you guya work together.
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It's still on the host server and plenty are running it.
Check the last few pages of the thread....
I believe I posted 3-4 updates on that rom, this week alone.
Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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Not really trying to speak for him, just back him up. It seems the easier rooting/roming becomes the less people seem to understand (or care to understand) what goes into development. They just want it now and don't care how they get it.
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Everybody respects Santod... but his ROM's are not on XDA they are on Infected Roms.... I am on his NuSense Rom for a while now.... It just seems ridiculous that Mack and Santod could not work together IMO... Now if Mack was refusing to give Santod his fully deserved credit for the Base and Stock Rom then yeah I understand.
I am not hating on Santod what so ever... I am getting the best battery life ever on his NuSense Sense 3.6 Rom... With Nova Launcher it actually moves pretty nice too for stock kernel...
Let's be honest though... Sense 3.6 sucks... Sense Sucks... We all want AOSP.. That is not happening until the Source get's released... so a Desensed Rom is something of extreme interest.
I can not wait for the Jelato Santod Rom to be done... I just figured maybe Mack or Jester may be able to throw Santod some ideas maybe and before you know if we would have a 10x better DeSensed ROM then if it was just by one particular Dev.
Yeah I mean the only thing that bugs me is that while Santod makes a good rom, he cant help himself from customizing it the way *he* likes it, and not the general public at times. Every time I use one of his roms I'm like "wow, amazing performance, sweet battery life, all the features but wtf is up with this font? Why this theme?". It'd be like getting a rewritten AOSP rom built from HTC's source, and then shipping it with a hello kitty theme I liked Mack's work because it had that truly vanilla feel to it with all the under the hood tweaks a launcher like Apex can offer. The new Jelato rom actually runs worse than the unsense rom, albeit just slightly. It's certainly better than Sense, but still kinda leaves something to be desired.
I guess what I ultimately dont get is why anybody cares if someone else rips off your work. It's not like either of them are being paid here, which means it all comes down to fame and recognition. If your motives are pure, and you are simply doing this for the community, then you should be happy that someone went and tweaked a new flavor of your rom for everybody to use. Why there's this whole desire for credit is beyond me. Seems kinda conceited. "How dare you steal my charitable donations!" What have you got to lose?
Like I said, I really dont want to see just one rom developer out there. If santod is the only one left with the skill to properly port these things, then he should be supportive of others customizing his work. It does do him or the community any good to horde all his development unless there's some sort of financial incentive in it for him and he needs revenue from this somehow. And if he gets bored or offended and quits then the TB community just dies forever? That sucks. If the only people left willing to contribute are kanger's, then let them! We cant have our entire community rest in the hands of one developer.
I support and help anybody and everybody that treats me with an ounce of respect.
IT IS NOT ABOUT CREDIT!!!!
I could give a **** about credits or your complaints about my theming.
Maybe the theming is my way of saying it's mine.
The original UnSense was about as Vanilla as it gets really.
If you don't like what I have to offer up, then don't use it, it's simple.
If the fact that someone else left their rom half sense and half aosp makes it more vanilla for you, then fine.
Use his pieced together rom, I don't care.
What do you guys want from me?
Sure, treat me like an asshole, but feel free to help yourself to my stuff....
Anyone whining about this still, needs to get a life.
Any real developer wouldn't have batted an eye, made their own base and rolled along.
If what I contributed was "nothing" and easy to do, why all the fuss?
By the way, everyone else loves the theme, you happen to be the first to complain about how it looks.
There is this thing called UOT and another called apktool, maybe you should find those and learn to use them, before you go criticizing anymore work of others.
You may find yourself with ZERO rom options!
Any useful thread on the matter that is not just santod vs the world or people complaining about locked threads will not be closed.
This is not such a thread.
They serve no useful purpose for the community.
If you have issue with this PM me, I am not looking to "play God" or any some such activity, but the denizens of this community must be spared such drama as found in this thread.
Let's all work together to create a better development community.
Not sure if I have over looked or not, but I was looking for a completely decked out customer ROM with all the fix-in's like, customer color themes, no original Icons, that sort of thing. it would be stable and fast. if there are any , please give me a link
If I am out of my mind... please do so as well
Thank you Devs for all your hard work!
everyone will have a different opinion on what works and what doesn't, your best bet to to just try them out give them a day or 2 each to see how they run for you.
This is such a broad question that can be taken so many ways. As far as ASOP goes if you are talking having the most options pacman or revolt are going to have the most options.
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Go to the development thread and see all the awesome roms we have foe our beloved i717...also there are some in android original development. .....to each is own when picking out roms
Thanks Everyone
And my apologies for the broad question and thank you for the recommendations.
Not sure if ur a fan of touchwiz or not but Big, Nun, and The Family are doing some great things with Black Jelly. Dont let the fact that its in beta deter you. The rom is fast, stable, and very customizable. Also, GT's Padawan JB is pretty good as well. Those are just my personal recomendations.
A BIG @ZZ JAR OF BLACK JELLY
With the cm10.1 roms you have many themes available to really change appearences. See the app store.