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I know there's not an S-Off yet for 1.22.651.3, but how about just a temporary root exploit.
It doesn't need to survive a reboot - I just want to be able to run Titanium Backup once.
I spend longer customizing home-screens and settings than anybody I know. MyBackupPro just doesn't cut it. I'm still putting things back for days.
Unfortunately the HTCDev unlock wipes everything.
I guess if I do go that route, I'd just have to do one last re-create of my layout and settings, but I just thought I'd ask.
Search for xHausx's deodexed ROM for the LTEVO build that includes the latest OTA and fixes. You can do this via TWRP (my personal favorite) or Clockwork Mod. Check out the ROM Manager app via Google Play. After flashing the ROM via TWRP, you will have r00t, and Titanium Backup is yours.
Sent From My S-OFFed, R00ted, 100% Tricked-Out HTC Evo 4G LTE via XDA Premium!
Maybe I've missed something here...
To flash this (or anything), I have to use the HTCDev unlock first, which wipes my data, right?
Once I do that, I can flash or install anything I like, including Titanium Backup, regardless of having it already bundled in some ROM for me.
The point was to back up what I've got now using Titanium, before running the HTCDev unlock, like if there was a temp root exploit.
I know what you're saying; we had a temp root on the Evo 3D before it was fully rooted and unlocked. I don't remember seeing one for this phone anywhere though.
this guy is asking about root...not a rom??
HTC dev is currently the only root method if you took the ota.
We had a one click root that wouldn't unlock bootloder but that was patched.
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I am also interested in this. I have the newest version 651.3 and no root. I want Titanium Backup to run first before a wipe of data.
Also, i am not completely understanding something here. I read root and S-Off. I have read that S-off gives greater level of rights in the system, but do we need that to apply new ROMs? Not sure what the S-Off give us exactly. Can someone clear that up for me? Thanks, Chewboxa.
chewboxa said:
I am also interested in this. I have the newest version 651.3 and no root. I want Titanium Backup to run first before a wipe of data.
Also, i am not completely understanding something here. I read root and S-Off. I have read that S-off gives greater level of rights in the system, but do we need that to apply new ROMs? Not sure what the S-Off give us exactly. Can someone clear that up for me? Thanks, Chewboxa.
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You need s off to flash radios and hboots but you already have the new ones. You can flash roms once you're rooted without soff
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If you can get S-OFF, you absolutely want it when it becomes available. HTC dev is getting more and more restrictive
So am I reading this correctly.. Even with the new ota if you use HTC Dev to root you can flash roms? I thought the ota prevented that? I knew pre ota you didn't need soff to flash roms but I thought with the ota that was gone...if not I guess I better get going and so this.. Could someone point me to the best path for this knowing I am stock with ota update. No root.. What is the story with google wallet.. Do I need to test before doing this.. I just happen to have the next 4 nights free to mess around so now is the time..
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If you have HTC dev unlocked, just use TWRP to flash xHausx's deodexed ROM that includes the latest OTA with r00t access. Simple!
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Yes, if you've used the HTC Dev unlock, you can certainly then flash a recovery or any ROM you like.
The catch is just that if you haven't yet used the unlock, it will wipe all your data when you do.
I was hoping for an exploit to let us run TB first - but from the looks of it, none of the previous exploits work anymore if you already have the OTA.
Does, the Dev unlock, void your warranty?
Yes, given your comment, a nandroid and perhaps using the App Backup and Restore app from the market is as good as you can get currently. It isn't Titanium, but it is a decent "Plan B."
Sent From My S-OFFed, R00ted, 100% Tricked-Out HTC Evo 4G LTE via XDA Premium!
I can't do a nandroid because I still have the stock recovery.
Volume up or down while powering up still just boots the phone, not into recovery.
Or is there some other way?
Nope. The only way to root with the newest hboot is Htc dev. You will lose data. There's no way around it.
In the future don't accept otas
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I think if you take fast boot off than when you hold volumn down and p power you're phone will boot into that recovery menu
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Ah.
Disabling fast-boot did let me into the HBOOT, but when I select recovery, it just goes to a red triangle with an ! in it.
I have to hold down power at that point shut it down (or wait about 2 minutes apparently).
Oh well.
pbarrett said:
Ah.
Disabling fast-boot did let me into the HBOOT, but when I select recovery, it just goes to a red triangle with an ! in it.
I have to hold down power at that point shut it down (or wait about 2 minutes apparently).
Oh well.
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Yes, that's the stock recovery.
What I said above holds true.there's no way you can root at this point without losing data
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Twrp does not require root? What about goo manager? Would you recommend that? That is what my husband used on his 3d to do roms..
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Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
from scratch
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
haha Yeah roms are pretty addictive! So my background in rooting is limited to the Thunderbolt, which is my first smartphone. I used the Revolutionary IO method, which got me S-Off and root. But after reading through the Juopunutbear (Unlimited IO), I am slightly confused. I definitely did not do the wiring procedures involving the antennae contacts to get S-Off with the thunderbolt. I did more research and it sounds like the S-Off in thunderbolt is a "fake" S-off from a patched hboot?
That also leads to my next questions... up until now, I thought the following:
1. hboot = bootloader, which is the "BIOS" of the phone
2. In order to be rooted, S-off must happen first (this I guess is not true from your steps)
3. Recovery = part of hboot (from what I've read so far, this is incorrect too)
Also, would you elaborate on step #4? I thought unlocked is what I want, but instead I really want to have S-off and locked bootloader?
Thanks!
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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yep
yo!
hboot is bootloader alright: some folks like a modified hboot which lets you do more than stock hboot.
personally I keep the stock ICS hboot 2.25.
nope, you dont have to be s-0ff to be rooted, only unlocked.
You can do most all modifications with unlock EXCEPT go back to previous hboot & rom.
Recovery is separate from hboot. Recovery is a menu choice in hboot.
A new recovery can only be installed if unlocked or s-0ff.
There's ClockworkMod and AmonRa. You'll wanna check them out both, I like Amon Ra.
re: step #4.
I know it's counterintuitive, but if you unlock it again after s-0ff, even though it's s-0ff, you will
have a nasty PINK Tampered flag every time you boot to hboot/custom recovery. And that crappy reminder stays
even after you you relock. The Juopunutbear process relocks the phone, making it S-0ff, Locked. Perfect.
Now with S-0ff, locked or unlocked doesn't matter regarding any roms or radios you may install and No warning flags.
Dont be intimidated by the wire procedure for s-0ff, just read it so many times beforehand that you effen KNOW it.
Enjoy: my Zound is so fast cool and perfect now that ive customized it to my useage pattern - hoping for
same experience for you!.
dashbored said:
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
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I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
I sold the Thunderbolt today and so now I've officially transitioned over to the Rezound! The phone is the stock gingerbread. I am dying to root it if only just so I can use titanium back up to transfer my crap over.
Thanks guys for the helpful replies! I've decided that right now, what I want is to be on the ICS OTA but with S-off & root so I can remove the bloat and optimize it. I'll stay with that for a bit to get a baseline before trying out different ROMs
What kind of wires did you guys use for the S-off procedure? Do I need to go out and buy something specific, or is there something around the typical household setting that I can grab? Obviously, not frying the phone is top priority. I've read through too much posts in the past 48 hours and I've come across a few that mentioned fried USB ports and even dead phones that had to be returned, which's made me a bit tentative. But I want S-off, so any pointers/comments you may have that would help about this would be much appreciated!
michaelbsheldon - question about your steps #1 & #2. Aren't these extraneous steps, as in you could just do the S-off wire with the stock Gingerbread? I am kinda confused as to the purpose of unlocking it first via HTC Dev and flashing a stockish ROM before the wire trick.
bloodymurderlive said:
I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
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Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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I'm going to give you a response this afternooon... I recommend that you don't do anything until I can clarify some things. brt...
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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It doesn't matter much if you do the OTA update before or after s-off. If it were me, I would do the OTA update first, especially if you are still locked....then unlock and do s-off using the proper ICS (for .5) jounuputbear. You can keep the stock hboot. NO NEED to unlock after s-off! AFter s-off, flash your Amonra recovery and then flash your SU...or just flash a rooted ROM. I haven't looked a lot, but I bet there is a stock, rooted, debloated ROM based on this OTA...just flash that and you'll be all set! ....
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Flash CleanROM?
I see very little point in flashing a ROM, if you're trying to get the official ICS, root, and S-OFF. I believe the purpose of flashing the ROM is that the ROM is already rooted for you. However, you will need to re-root after you install the OTA, so why not do the same process twice (flash superSU) rather than two different processes (flash ROM, flash superSU)? Seems to me that flashing CleanROM introduces more variables than necessary.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I wouldn't try to install the OTA unless you are running stock Gingerbread. Alternatively, you could try to find a ROM based on the official ICS OTA, but the OTA is still very new... I would just do it the "proper" way (install through Gingerbread) and let those ROMs cook a little more before playing with them.
S-OFF before or after OTA?
I recommend achieving S-OFF before installing the OTA. The S-OFF procedure may very well work with the OTA, but it is guaranteed to work with stock Gingerbread. There is an ICS option in hansoon2000's all-in-one toolkit, but this is based on a leak... Which again is probably very similar (if not identical) to the OTA. But the official OTA is very new, so... In my opinion, the surest thing is to achieve S-OFF before installing the OTA.
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
It is kind of a pain to go through the HTC unlock process twice, but hey... It's up to you how much risk you're willing to take with your brand new Rezound. I took the safe route. It took maybe a little more time, and I had to do some steps twice (achieving root for GB, then for ICS... unlocking before and after ICS...), but since you only have to go through this whole process once, I recommend playing it safe.
PINK Tampered flag?
I unlocked again after achieving S-OFF. I just double-checked, and I do not see any pink "Tampered" flag anywhere in my bootloader. If you follow my instructions below, this shouldn't happen.
My start-to-finish recommendation:
If the end result you're looking for is ICS OTA, rooted, S-OFF, then I recommend you follow these guides, in the following order:
1: Scotty's noob-friendly guide to root Rezound:
http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
One thing to note: Scotty gives instructions both for temporary and permanent flashing of custom recovery. In your case, I would recommend doing the temporary flash. This will allow you to flash superSU (achieve root) - which you need to do in order to achieve S-OFF - but it will also save you the hassle of later having to flash the stock recovery back - which you need to have in order to install the OTA.
2: My guide to achieve S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
3: My guide to install the OTA after rooting and S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
If you flashed a temporary recovery, then you can skip to step 7 in this guide to verify that you have stock recovery on your device. If you do, then you should be able to initiate the OTA from within Gingerbread, and successfully install. In other words: If you flashed a temporary recovery, you can follow steps 7 to the end in this guide.
These three guides together, in the order that I listed them, are the exact steps I followed to achieve the same thing that you say you're shooting for: official ICS, rooted, S-OFF. I think these steps are the least risky steps you can take to achieve these things.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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FYI: AFter you s-off you can not use fastboot flash commands unless you install the JB Hboot at the end of the S-off process (it should offer you the option) That is the custom hboot you refer to. All flashers are encouraged to check MD5 sum of the files they download before flashing (primarily RUU, hboot/radios..not so much roms). This will guard against corrupted files, making the process less risky.
If you have the ph98img.zip file version of amonra, it will flash just fine in the stock hboot. Hboot picks it up when it scans for ph98img.zip files and you select yes to install.
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
topgun1953 said:
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
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Exactly... I prefer that my Rezound is self-sufficient, without needing a PC to mess with it.
Good note on fast boot!
stock or rooted
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
flspanky said:
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
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What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Wow thank you for that informative reply! That really cleared up all of my questions. I now have two new, minor questions.
1. The audio clip for the S-off wire trick has two distinct tones. From watching the video, it looks like the different tones don't matter. Basically just hit tap and release as the metronome hits the first beat, and then again on the second beat. Correct?
2. This is probably a silly question, but what are the advantages of Amon Ra recovery over the stock?
I am too tired tonight, but I think I am going to give this a go this weekend...
michaelbsheldon said:
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
bloodymurderlive said:
What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
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Thanks. I was installing the ICS Global root and ROM and the instructions said to wipe all, and I was not sure how many areas under the wiping options I should perform.
Quick update - I've rooted my Rezound. Have not done the S-off wire trick yet. Still on stock GB.
Question - none of the wifi tether app seems to be working! Open garden was working perfectly for me with my old rooted Thunderbolt. A quick search seems to show that Rezound has issues with wifi tethering?! This was one of the main motivations behind rooting, so I am a feeling a bit underwhelmed right now with my new Rezound...
Newest wifi tether works fine...even has Rezound settings. Since you are still on GB search for sirgatez mod. Worked great for me when I was still on GB.
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Can someone help me root this phone?
I unlocked it via HTC method and I even flashed a recovery. But when the phone boots up, I am unable to use any super user permissions. So, I download root check and it says I am not rooted. What am I doing wrong?
I didn't have this pain on HB 1.5
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mariojp said:
Can someone help me root this phone?
I unlocked it via HTC method and I even flashed a recovery. But when the phone boots up, I am unable to use any super user permissions. So, I download root check and it says I am not rooted. What am I doing wrong?
I didn't have this pain on HB 1.5
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flash this through recovery and you will have superuser.
spirithandler said:
flash this through recovery and you will have superuser.
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I had also did that. Thing is, when I booted back up, my phone was in the state of not being rooted. Even after flashing the superuser zip.
So, what I did was flash the boot.img from the rom I wanted to flash, through fastboot.
Thank you for the help though. It's really appreciated.
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I had the same issue...
mariojp said:
I had also did that. Thing is, when I booted back up, my phone was in the state of not being rooted. Even after flashing the superuser zip.
So, what I did was flash the boot.img from the rom I wanted to flash, through fastboot.
Thank you for the help though. It's really appreciated.
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Months ago I used HTCDev to unlock and flashed TWRP recovery and su-2.3.6.3.zip from this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
I was underwhelmed with the MIUI ROM and got curious about Sprint's ICS update, so I relocked the bootloader and ran the 2.17 RUU.exe, then updated to 2.89 OTA. After that I could use my original HTCDev Unlock_code.bin to unlock the bootloader, but su-2.3.6.3 would not give me proper root access (verified with Root Checker app). Thankfully downloading Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ and flashing it through recovery worked.
I now have root with the stock Sprint ICS. Why? Because I wanted to keep the 3D and Wimax functionality (i know, i know) while still being able to run TiBackup to freeze the goddamned pre-installed apps that everyone hates. I'm sure this is stated elsewhere in the forums, but I read your post before I resolved my issue so I thought I'd come back and reply just in case you or anyone else were still grappling with it.
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Months ago I used HTCDev to unlock and flashed TWRP recovery and su-2.3.6.3.zip from this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
I was underwhelmed with the MIUI ROM and got curious about Sprint's ICS update, so I relocked the bootloader and ran the 2.17 RUU.exe, then updated to 2.89 OTA. After that I could use my original HTCDev Unlock_code.bin to unlock the bootloader, but su-2.3.6.3 would not give me proper root access (verified with Root Checker app). Thankfully downloading Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ and flashing it through recovery worked.
I now have root with the stock Sprint ICS. Why? Because I wanted to keep the 3D and Wimax functionality (i know, i know) while still being able to run TiBackup to freeze the goddamned pre-installed apps that everyone hates. I'm sure this is stated elsewhere in the forums, but I read your post before I resolved my issue so I thought I'd come back and reply just in case you or anyone else were still grappling with it.
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Thanks a lot, that really helped me to root a brand new stok rom on the Sprint evo 3d!
Just for future reference when you download a super user zip, notice the letters next to superuser efghi those letters represent the past android os's (e)clair, (f)royo, (g)ingerbread, (h)oneycomb, and (I)cecream sandwhich. Always look for that if you plan to root a stock Rom.
Hello all, I tried searching but if I missed the thread please point me to it. I was able to unlock the bootloader using HTC Dev but I cant seem to install TWRP. Am I missing a step or something? I am running an HTC Evo 4G LTE on 3.17. I tried putting the PJ75IMG.zip in the root of the sd card but when restarted in the bootloader it read it and said main version is older. I tried using goomanager to download and install but that didnt work either. Am i doing something wrong here? Thanks in advance guys (and girls)!
fastboot flash it PJ75IMG.zip will only work if you are S-OFF
Put the .img file in the folder you are using to run the commands from.
fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img
OK. So fastboot is the best method. Then I can install super user correct? I dont HAVE to install a ROM if i dont want to correct? I can just run stock root? If I wanted to install a ROM would I need to be S-OFF? or could I install one while still being S-ON? It has been quite some time since I rooted a phone. Last phone was the Samsung Epic 4G. What a terrible phone. Thanks and sorry for so many questions.
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OK. So fastboot is the best method. Then I can install super user correct? I dont HAVE to install a ROM if i dont want to correct? I can just run stock root? If I wanted to install a ROM would I need to be S-OFF? or could I install one while still being S-ON? It has been quite some time since I rooted a phone. Last phone was the Samsung Epic 4G. What a terrible phone. Thanks and sorry for so many questions.
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I personally use fastboot to install twrp then when you want/need to update twrp you can fastboot flash again or use goomanager from the playstore.
You can install SuperSU and run stock rooted or flash a custom rom which has superuser added
As for flashing roms you can flash them while s-on it's just more work because you have to fastboot flash the kernel/boot.img then flash the rom.
I always recommend S-OFF as it will save you the extra steps in flahing roms and also if you mess something up you can flash an older RUU if the most current RUU is not available.
@FinZ28 has a great guide explaining how to flash the kernel/boot.img
OK, so now the question becomes what method for S-OFF should I use? I would like to be able to make it look like I never rooted the phone if need be if at all possible. I heard good things about rumrunner for 3.17. am i correct that this would be the best method or is there a better one? again sorry its been too long and this is my first HTC root.
quattroa430 said:
OK, so now the question becomes what method for S-OFF should I use? I would like to be able to make it look like I never rooted the phone if need be if at all possible. I heard good things about rumrunner for 3.17. am i correct that this would be the best method or is there a better one? again sorry its been too long and this is my first HTC root.
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Since you are on 3.17 rumrunner is the only method you can use
OK so first install TWRP then SU then S-OFF? also i factory reset my phone the other day and now on some apps I have this weird menu bar at the bottom. it happens on my facebook app and bank app. it doesnt show up in Kik or play or sms apps. any ideas? i would like to remove that
quattroa430 said:
OK so first install TWRP then SU then S-OFF? also i factory reset my phone the other day and now on some apps I have this weird menu bar at the bottom. it happens on my facebook app and bank app. it doesnt show up in Kik or play or sms apps. any ideas? i would like to remove that
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Yes unlock your bootloader if you have not already
Install twrp
Flash SU
Then S-OFF(make sure you read all the pre-requisetes before starting rumrunner
As fo the weird menu it may disappear if you flash a custom rom
Ok so I came across another issue. I cant seem to get busybox to install. I would like to install cyanogenmod 10 and qbking mentions needing s-off to do so. Is that correct? It is a bit of a pain being on 3.17 but I guess there isnt much I can do. Any advice for installing busybox? Thanks again
I successfully installed Busybox on 3.17 last night. As far as having to be S-off to flash CM, no, you don't have to be, but it makes life easier. Hit the top link in my sig and read my Hboot guide if you haven't already done so.
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I read your hboot guide. Very informative. Rumrunner requires busybox and for whatever reason I cannot install busybox. Could you possibly eexplain what choices you made that worked? I tried installing to bin and xbin. Should I install to a custom location instead? If so where should I? I would like to be s-off and have cyanogen lol. Thanks again guys!
quattroa430 said:
I read your hboot guide. Very informative. Rumrunner requires busybox and for whatever reason I cannot install busybox. Could you possibly eexplain what choices you made that worked? I tried installing to bin and xbin. Should I install to a custom location instead? If so where should I? I would like to be s-off and have cyanogen lol. Thanks again guys!
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I'm not really sure what to tell you since I was already S-off when I installed it. Where did you read that it was required prior to running Rumrunner?
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It was on the pocketables website. search "rumrunner HTC EVO 4g LTE" everytime I seem to try to install busybox my phone crashes.
Are you running just the stock rooted factory rom?
You could try Captain_Throwbacks 3.17 rooted rom or SharkieRom 3.17
Try this. Its a TWRP flashable zip of the latest Busybox (v1.20.2). See if that straightens things out with your issue. Make sure you have a backup handy just in case.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g16xuqbzbmzz8yz/busybox-signed.zip
You can use a file manager like Root Explorer and go to /system/xbin/ and look to make sure you see the Busybox file. If it's there you're good to go:thumbup: (I did not develop the Busybox file-I simply took the file and make it into a flashable zip. Big thanks to Rootlinux for showing me how it's done).
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FinZ28 said:
Try this. Its a TWRP flashable zip of the latest Busybox (v1.20.2). See if that straightens things out with your issue. Make sure you have a backup handy just in case.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g16xuqbzbmzz8yz/busybox-signed.zip
You can use a file manager like Root Explorer and go to /system/xbin/ and look to make sure you see the Busybox file. If it's there you're good to go:thumbup:
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Worked like a charm. Busybox is installed right where you said it should be. Now to run rumrunner and gain s-off. Thank you guys for all the help and support thus far!
quattroa430 said:
Worked like a charm. Busybox is installed right where you said it should be. Now to run rumrunner and gain s-off. Thank you guys for all the help and support thus far!
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Glad it worked for you:thumbup:
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S-OFF Issue
Ok now I can't seem to gain S-OFF using rumrunner. I downloaded the correct version for the EVO 4G LTE and I am running native Ubuntu 13.10 32bit. It works for a while until it gets to the pouring stages
==================== rumrunner S-OFF 0.5.0 ==============================
rumrunner S-OFF comes with NO WARRANTY (express or implied)
and NO GUARANTEE OF FITNESS for any particular task.
We have made every effort we can to make this a safe process for users
however the authors disclaim any liability for damage to your phone
or other materials or devices used during this process.
The entire risk of running rumrunner S-OFF lies with you, the user.
By using this software you acknowledge and accept that the authors
are not liable for any loss, material or otherwise howsoever caused.
YesDo you understand the implications of this warning?
(Yes/No)
Dear User: We will expect that YOU:
(1) Know how to use ADB and FASTBOOT binaries
---- [Yes, use these tools to test USB connection BEFORE running rumrunner] ----
(2) Realize that rumrunner S-OFF cannot support every CUSTOM rom in this world
(3) Understand that irc support IS NOT A GENERAL HELPDESK
(4) Are able to identify and download the CORRECT package for YOUR device
(5) Know how to enable USB-debugging on YOUR device (Yes, do that now)
(6) Understand that you may NOT repack or redistribute rumrunner S-OFF
Ok?
(Yes/No)
yes
Type 'Yes' or 'No'
(Yes/No)
Yes
!! Do NOT for any reason taunt, unplug, drop, eat or pet your device !!
Please wait....
Checking for updates......
Test 1: Rebooting into bootloader
Waiting for fastboot (7/120)
Waiting
Test 2: Booting device
Waiting for ADB (21/120)
must ferment longer...
must sanitize, skunky rum is nasty
hold please..............................................
[************************************************************]
Rebooting into bootloader (again)
Waiting for fastboot (7/120)
Waiting for ADB (21/120)
must ferment longer...
chilling..................
it's a little stinky here, hmm....
bottles are packed, here we go, shhhhhh....
hmm, cap is on tighter than I expected........
hell, that damn cap is on REALLY tight.......
pouring (1)...
WTF: What are you doing?
Idk what I am doing wrong here. I couldnt even get it to work right using windows so I had to break out the laptop.
It gets to that point every time then fails and reboots the phone.
Software version: 3.17.651.4
Android Version: 4.1.1
Kernal Version: 3.4.10-gf5d846c
Is there anything else needed to help figure this out? Tis getting a wee bit frustrating. Can I S-OFF off if i flash cyanogen or any other rom?
Tried running Captain_Throwbacks stock rooted 3.17 and got the same result at the same exact point while running rumrunner. Going to try Sharkie next. Any tips are greatly welcomed!
Don't have much to offer since I haven't used Rumrunner. Having said that, make sure you're using a USB 2.0 port and not 3.0, and that you're using a fairly stock Sense ROM. Also make sure that you're phone is recognized with both ADB & Fastboot. Seems most of the issues I've seen have to do with the connection. If it fails, try try again. You also might want to check out the Rumrunner thread in original development.
Just a thought, but have you looked at your bootloader and made sure that you're still S-on? Reason I ask is because on Moonshine the "WTF: What are you doing?" message actually meant that the process was successful. Not sure if Rumrunner is the same.
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So while in process of s-off once I got to the part when you "fastboot oem rebootRUU" that went through. But right after trying to flash a zip im stuck looking at the blk HTC screen. I was given a "<Failed <remote: 99 unknown fail>". Now its just stuck.
I've been trying to figure out what happened but just have no where else to turn. Please lend a hand.
I think I already know the answer to this question, but what version is your firmware? Just for your knowledge, there hasn't been an RUU since ICS, or maybe the first release of JB. So, odds are, you flashed the wrong RUU.
But good news, you *might* not be bricked. Have you tried rebooting? This really your only option, anyway. Try to get into the bootloader. Flash a new recovery if the RUU has already wiped it, and flash a compatible rom.
Please also list your bootloader info.
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Phone: HTC EVO 4G LTE
Sense 5, S-Off
Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2
Rooted, Custom Rom & Kernel
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I think I already know the answer to this question, but what version is your firmware? Just for your knowledge, there hasn't been an RUU since ICS, or maybe the first release of JB. So, odds are, you flashed the wrong RUU.
But good news, you *might* not be bricked. Have you tried rebooting? This really your only option, anyway. Try to get into the bootloader. Flash a new recovery if the RUU has already wiped it, and flash a compatible rom.
Please also list your bootloader info.
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Phone: HTC EVO 4G LTE
Sense 5, S-Off
Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2
Rooted, Custom Rom & Kernel
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It's not a full RUU in the normal sense. It's the one for Facepalm.
To the OP, did you gain SuperCID prior to running those commands? If not, then the process will fail. You should simply be able to hold the power button down & reboot your phone. Also, as stated above, list your device info so we can make sure you're using the right S-off exploit.
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So I did get the phone into the bootloader. I was trying to do the rumrunner s-off but being I was so damn tired lastnight I ended up forgetting a step. I am currently unlocked and rooted. I also somehow deleted my backup like a idiot and wiped the os. So I'm stuck from this point where I need to go.
So where we stand as of now:
bootloader unlocked
rooted
twrp 2.6.3.0
firmware 3.17.651.4
hboot 2.09
radio 1.13.11.0830
z3r0t0l0rEnCe said:
So I did get the phone into the bootloader. I was trying to do the rumrunner s-off but being I was so damn tired lastnight I ended up forgetting a step. I am currently unlocked and rooted. I also somehow deleted my backup like a idiot and wiped the os. So I'm stuck from this point where I need to go.
So where we stand as of now:
bootloader unlocked
rooted
twrp 2.6.3.0
firmware 3.17.651.4
hboot 2.09
radio 1.13.11.0830
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Happens to all of us. Don't worry about wiping the OS. Look for Captain Throwback's stock rooted rom, and flash a custom kernel along with it, like the Dirty MAC kernel or Arc reactor. Doesn't matter which one...rumrunner just needs a custom kernel.
Captain Throwback's stock 3.17 base
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468418
Dirty MAC kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178307
Arc Reactor
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873824
After you flash these, then reboot into Android, set your phone to stay awake during charge Settings-->Display and Buttons, and also set SuperSU to automatically grant root access (open the app, swipe right twice, and scroll down a little). This way, you don't have to touch your phone. If you touch it, the process will fail....even to unlock the phone to grant root access. And of course, turn on USB debugging in Developer Options.
After you do all of these, then run the exploit.
aarsyl said:
Happens to all of us. Don't worry about wiping the OS. Look for Captain Throwback's stock rooted rom, and flash a custom kernel along with it, like the Dirty MAC kernel or Arc reactor. Doesn't matter which one...rumrunner just needs a custom kernel.
Captain Throwback's stock 3.17 base
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468418
Dirty MAC kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178307
Arc Reactor
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873824
After you flash these, then reboot into Android, set your phone to stay awake during charge Settings-->Display and Buttons, and also set SuperSU to automatically grant root access (open the app, swipe right twice, and scroll down a little). This way, you don't have to touch your phone. If you touch it, the process will fail....even to unlock the phone to grant root access. And of course, turn on USB debugging in Developer Options.
After you do all of these, then run the exploit.
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This is odd to me, because I ran rumrunner at least 3 times using just my stock ROM (no custom kernel or anything), and it worked fine every time. I guess the new version of rumrunner added some limitations to make it more generic.
whats bothering me is that even after i check the MD5, it keeps failing to install capt zip. think maybe i can just use adb to push the zip file? just not sure how to word the command right to get it to load
z3r0t0l0rEnCe said:
whats bothering me is that even after i check the MD5, it keeps failing to install capt zip. think maybe i can just use adb to push the zip file? just not sure how to word the command right to get it to load
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No, don't. If it fails, don't force it. Reflash TWRP 2.6.3 (not the kit kat version), and try to flash again.
@Captain_Throwback: Yes, I didn't remember needing a custom kernel when I used Dirty Racun, but rumrunner needs it now. Keep in mind that rumrunner isn't for this device exclusively. Maybe that's the purpose of the custom kernel.
i'd wager you're trying to flash files that aren't recovery flashable, then lying to the people who are trying to help you.
i got it running again using capt stock rooted rom. attempting rumrunners s-off again now that i got this part working.
Are you using a custom kernel?
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Phone: HTC EVO 4G LTE
Sense 5, S-Off
Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2
Rooted, Custom Rom & Kernel
now s-off and updated rumrunners hboot. now onto flashing roms finally.
Thank you all that helped me with my stupidness and not reading directions.
Last post. I can't say it enough that you must read read read when it comes to directions. If I would of followed directions as directed I would of never ran into the issues I did. It was a learning experience.
One thing for sure that I took from this experience is adb and directions. I've learned a lot in the last 24hrs alone.
I'd like to thank Capain_throwback and everyone in the irc for the help and you all here that assisted me.
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