Galaxy s3 idles hot until reboot - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

If I let my galaxy s3 run for a few days without rebooting sometimes it will idle at 50 degrees celcius. Then when I restart it goes back to idling at 35 degrees or so. I think it might be a application running in the background. I cleared all the active apps before I restarted it, but this was only the second time it had happened so I kinda panicked and just restarted it before checking anything out. Could it be SwiftKey or one of the other active applications. The temps are of the cpu not battery.

tcb4 said:
If I let my galaxy s3 run for a few days without rebooting sometimes it will idle at 50 degrees celcius. Then when I restart it goes back to idling at 35 degrees or so. I think it might be a application running in the background. I cleared all the active apps before I restarted it, but this was only the second time it had happened so I kinda panicked and just restarted it before checking anything out. Could it be SwiftKey or one of the other active applications. The temps are of the cpu not battery.
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It might be the problem with the gsiff_daemon running away and using all of one CPU. When your phone is hot, go to Settings -> Developer options -> Show CPU usage. With that checked you will get an onscreen display of what processes are running, and a bar indicating how much CPU they are each using. If "gsiff_daemon" is at the top of the list, with a green and red bar, then it is the gsiff_daemon problem. Currently there is no solution other than to kill gsiff_daemon (I do it from the command line) or reboot. If it is not the gsiff_daemon problem, then hopefully Show CPU usage will let you see what other app or process is running hard.

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It might be the problem with the gsiff_daemon running away and using all of one CPU. When your phone is hot, go to Settings -> Developer options -> Show CPU usage. With that checked you will get an onscreen display of what processes are running, and a bar indicating how much CPU they are each using. If "gsiff_daemon" is at the top of the list, with a green and red bar, then it is the gsiff_daemon problem. Currently there is no solution other than to kill gsiff_daemon (I do it from the command line) or reboot. If it is not the gsiff_daemon problem, then hopefully Show CPU usage will let you see what other app or process is running hard.
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Thanks, I think that it's Facebook running in the background. If I don't close Facebook its the number one process (com.facebook.katana) even if I'm browsing the Web. Even if I do disable notifications and close out of it its still the number one process while sitting on the home screen.
Edit: ol Facebook seems to have fallen off the process list. Using Facebook makes phone really hot(cpu can hit 50 degrees celcius). what could it be doing that would need that much processing power?

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[Q] Battery Woes

My battery has gone down to 44% in 6 hours, I haven't used the phone during this time!!!!
I installed System panel and have been monitoring but I am having difficulty understanding the results.
The top app is System Processes which is 1.9% followed by system which is 0.9%.
When I hit System Processes the top item is mediaserver at 1.1%.
2 questions:
- It's not very clear what I need to do to reduce the impact on the battery, any ideas?
- what do the percentages in top apps mean? they add up to 4% which means nothing?
Bennji said:
My battery has gone down to 44% in 6 hours, I haven't used the phone during this time!!!!
I installed System panel and have been monitoring but I am having difficulty understanding the results.
The top app is System Processes which is 1.9% followed by system which is 0.9%.
When I hit System Processes the top item is mediaserver at 1.1%.
2 questions:
- It's not very clear what I need to do to reduce the impact on the battery, any ideas?
- what do the percentages in top apps mean? they add up to 4% which means nothing?
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hey buddy try turning of apps which u don't need...
advice goto manage application then see running apps.
then force close any apps such games and other.(Don't Stop any system services)
Devil_Dude said:
hey buddy try turning of apps which u don't need...
advice goto manage application then see running apps.
then force close any apps such games and other.(Don't Stop any system services)
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Really? I've read on here that killing apps is not something that you should do?
Use fast reboot app and switch off all coms from notification bar before idling ur phone.
To achieve much better battery, using setcpu, min to lowest possible freq, and max to 480 mhz(when phone idle).
Hope this helped ;-)

[Q] Internet using CPU when already closed to background

Pressing the home button is supposed to close the app to the background and store it in memory, but not use any CPU since it's idling in the back ground right?
I happened to open the stock task manager and find that my stock browser was still consuming CPU power even though it has been "home-buttoned" to the background. Does this have anything to do with the fact that browser was at my Facebook page when it was idling?
Makes me wonder if Android storing the app in memory and not using CPU while it is idle is true, since it seems that the stock browser DOES use abit of power while in the background.
Tempted to get an auto task killer
It should only finish its active page load then go to a frozen state. So test it by checking the CPU usage 5 minutes later or so, should be dead stopped.

[Q] Major Battery Drain While Using Words With Friends

I recently installed words with friends and have noticed a major drain on my battery caused by it slamming my cpu and RAM. All it is, is a scrabble type of game but continues to BASH my phone in the background. I have never experienced such drain from any game let alone a game that is not very graphic based. Something strange is happening here.
Has anybody else had the same issue? I don't remember it draining my battery as bad on my SGS 1.......
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zynga.words&feature=search_result
Edit: Found this: http://androidforums.com/android-games/277995-beware-words-friends-eating-up-battery.html
The problem is happening on my best mates iPhone too
Its probably the apps code. Its making the phone run both cores at Max for no reason.
If your a root user try underclocking to 800 and see if its still bad.
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Change background notifications to never in the account setting page. Also force close it in the battery status screen.
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Same thing happens to me. My phone gets so hot and my battery drains like crazy whenever I play the game. I wish the Developers would fix it, cause I love playing this game!
I use task killers (e.g., Advance Task Killer) to autokill the app when the phone is off, because sometimes the app still runs in the background. And whenever I turn my phone back on my battery is almost dead.
It's the problem with the app itself and until they fix the problem I'm keeping it away from my Android phone, that's lame.
Words is just a pain but my ios friends play it ...
What I do with mine is have a rooted phone and have tasker and have to cripple the phone to 500mhz max so it's still playable, just not speedy or it'll sit at 1000mhz looking at the game board but the waiting for moves screen can sit at 200mhz displaying ads
profile is words
entry
1. notify, "words running"
2. notify cancel, "words running"
3. cpu, gov powersave 500-500mhz
4. wait, 1second until %cpufreq < 510000
5. if, %cpufreq > 500000
6. goto 3
7. endif
8. cpu, gov conservative 200-500mhz
9. if, cpu > 500000
10. cpu powersave 500-500
11. endif
12. notify if %cpufreq < 510000, "throttled - max 500" with a icon of a hippo
exit
1. cpu gov, on demand 200-1200
2. notify cancel "throttled - max 500"
i also have a shortcut to task that launches words, just sets the gov to conservative 200-500 and loads words, the cpu freq won't stay at your max if it's already over the maximum
it loses smooth scrolling around the game board but uses half or less of the battery it did just running as is. when words isn't in the foreground it'll go back to whatever you set it to
Found this searching for my own issue. Just killing the app after closing it didn't help enough because it would still drain while I had it open.
Using the AT&T version I get the same issue. WordFeud's footprint is literally non-existant so I would suggest moving to that app. It's on iOS too.
I think they finally fixed it with the new words update
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I think they finally fixed it with the new words update
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Still seems to be killing me on a Droid PRO

Xperia U - autorotate hogging cpu when sideways

I noticed when turning on "Show CPU Usage" the figures seemed a bit high. So i installed busybox and Terminal emulator to see what was actually going on
I then ran "top -m 4 -d 5" which shows the top 4 processes in 5 second intervals. Only to see everything seemed fine. I then happened to turn the xpu sidewards and the "system_server" process shot to 28% and "com.google.android.inputmethod.latin" to 22% which is where they stayed 50% in total.
So I disabled auto-rotate and and the cpu usage dropped to almost 0%. To me the phone seems quicker.
Anyone else come across this?

Long Battery Life Fixed for all ROMs

Think I have a solution for short battery life for Nook! (Really for any android device)
The problem has been that the Nook Tablet does not go to a Deep sleep (even if they say its fixed its not). Every night I have to charge the Nook battery because it goes from 100% to 90% overnight. If the Nook sits all day with no use the battery will drop to 85%. Almost a 20% decrease in power in one day of no use. By the second day battery is down to 50% and forget it if I use the Nook.
This app seems to solve the problem!
I downloaded a free app (Google App store) called “CPU Tuner (rooted phones)” you need to be rooted but for most of us here this is not an issue.
This app allows you setup CPU speed, WiFi and other settings for different states the Nook may be in.You can setup several triggers but I only used 1. The problem is not just having the Nook go into Deep Sleep but to turn off other functions that hit the battery e.g. WiFi and sync. With this app you are able to tell the Nook to go into Airplane mode as well as turning off all other features that may consume battery life. Below is my setup and findings.
State 1: “On Power (Plugged in)” WiFi on, Sync on, airplane mode off and CPU set to 1020mhz Governor set to interactive
State 2: “On Battery” WiFi on, Sync on, airplane mode off and CPU set to 1020mhz Governor set to interactive (same as above)
State 3: “Screen off” WiFi off, Sync off, airplane mode on and CPU 600mhz Governor set to conservative
State 4: “Screen Lock” WiFi off, Sync off, airplane mode on and CPU 600mhz Governor set to conservative (Same as above)
With these settings (and having 3 nooks with CM10 to test) here are my numbers
test stared around 10pm
Nook 1 started with 76% batt (CPU Tuner not installed)
Nook 2 started with 85% batt (CPU Tuner not installed)
Nook 3 started with 90% batt (CPU Tuner installed)
checked battery life at 8am next morning.
Nook 1 65% batt
Nook 2 75% batt
Nook 3 91% batt (Yes it went up 1%)
Later in the day with no use 8pm still 91%
Loaded CPU Tuner on all three Nooks started test at 10pm. (Day 2)
Nook 1 started at 96%
Nook 2 started at 74%
Nook 3 started at 83%
Checked battery life at 8am next morning.
Nook 1 ended at 96%
Nook 2 ended at 75%
Nook 3 ended at 83%
As you can see this is a big difference then losing 20% power overnight. Since I have Screen Off and Screen Lock as the same trigger I don’t lose power if I am just checking batt level or the time.
This is a MUST HAVE APP. easy to setup and makes a big difference.
You can also setup it up so that if you are on the battery the CPU is at 1008mhz which will save battery life while in use and when plugged in CPU can go to 1020mhz giving you full power.
Sorry for such a long post but I felt it was good info for the users.
Webmaven
webmaven said:
Think I have a solution for short battery life for Nook! (Really for any android device)
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Terrific recommendation. Was easy to set up and works like a charm. No more finding my Nook with a flat battery after ignoring it for a couple of days.
Gracias! :good:
Thank you for the tip! I will make a note of it so I can use it if/when I need it! It seems very handy to be able to set upp different user schemes!
However, I do not agree with this comment:
webmaven said:
The problem has been that the Nook Tablet does not go to a Deep sleep (even if they say its fixed its not).
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I do know it's a problem in some ROMs, and often a problem along the way during development. I think it's grocely unfair to suggest it's a general problem though.
I'm running a CM10 build from 1231 and I have not problems what-so-ever with battery life! I hardly loose anything while on standby (wifi off). I do turn it off manually, and I understand that with this app I can have it done automatically which is very neat, so might use it because of that. The processor speed adjustments works just fine anyway in the ROM i use.
It's great to know this thing exists and does work if I want to try a "work in progress" ROM more extensively. So once again :good:
The "battery-drain while asleep" problem got fixed since early December (e.g., Succulent's v12/08 build).
Also, I simply turn off WiFi (using a WiFi on/off widget) when I am not accessing Internet, and my NT's battery consumption while asleep has been well below 1% a day (comparable to that of my Google N7).
Finally, for those who are interested in battery consumption management tools, I find Battery Juice Defender (which I use on my Samsung GS-II phone) reasonably effective yet easy to use.
Sorry it was not meant to be a dig or insult!!!
I love ALL of the work that the developers have done and I think I have changed my ROM about a half a dozen times because I can't figure out which one I like best. But compared to my wife's Nook with just the B&N ROM her battery could last days where my battery only lasted 1 day.
Please; I did not mean anything insulting with the comment and the fact that these developers can put together such solid ROMs is saying something about their skills.
How I found this App was from posts here where users were saying that they had to turn off WiFi. Trying to make a WA or KA (WA = Wife Approved and KA = Kid Approved) I know that going in and turning on and off WiFi was never going to happen.
When installed the CPU Tuner and found that it was going to do this automatically and on top of this battery life goes from 1 day to several days I had to make a comment. Only after a few days of my kids using the Nook with the CPU Tuner they made comments about how long the battery lasted. Using these ROMs and CPU Tuner made the Nook 100% WA & KA and now wife is using Nook with the Hashcode ROM and I have heard no complaints. Happy wife, happy life.
Again sorry
Can you post screenshots of your settings from the start, there are some things in your OP that i can't get to setup for testing purposes, indeed the battery of my nook using @succulents ROM 4.1.2 final drains battery considerably while sleeping.
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CPU Tuner Screen Shots
lavero.burgos said:
Can you post screenshots of your settings from the start, there are some things in your OP that i can't get to setup for testing purposes, indeed the battery of my nook using @succulents ROM 4.1.2 final drains battery considerably while sleeping.
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I have uploaded the screen shots. All settings can be changed after loading so if you select the wrong item its not a problem.
I try to keep it simple, You can have more then 1 configuration but as you can see I just use 1. I set my user experience to Normal which can be changed in the settings.
Once you start CPU tuner you will see the current state of the Nook. You can select a different state. (Note the battery was at 52% which has been at 52% for about 2 days and just charged it this morning.)
Next you will see triggers; here you set what Profiles you want for different states of the Nook. Just tap in that section. I forgot to take a screen grab. But I have battery at 100, "On Battery" = Normal, "Screen Locked" = Powersave, "Screen Off" = Powersave and "On Power" = Performance. "Battery Hot" = Powersave and "Call in progress" = Performance. I really only need two profiles Performance and Powersave my Normal has the same settings as Performance and my Screen Off (which I don't use) has the same setting as Powersave.
Next are the profiles. tap the profile you want to edit. See screen shot 7-10 these images have my profile settings. I don't trust airplane mode to really shut off all that I want off so I make sure that things I want disabled are disabled and when I go into Performance I disable airplane mode and enable WiFi (Not sure what Background Sync is or if it even works on the Nook most times I keep it off especially for the "Screen Off" and "Powersave" profiles)
For the governors I leave it as interactive for "Full Speed" and "Normal" settings and conservative for "Save Battery" and Extreme Save Battery these may be the default I am not sure.
If I wanted to really go crazy. I could set my Normal CPU speed to 1008mhz to save battery life while on battery. I could also setup it up that if I have 100% battery use Performance Profile and when the battery level drops to 70% use Normal profile (with CPU at 1008mhz) and when the battery goes to 60% then create a new profile which lowers the CPU speed even more. But with my current setup I am very happy and the fact that after a few days of no use the Nook still has the same power level from when I last had it on.
That's about it. If you have any questions let me know.
Webmaven
Is there any way to delay (eg I want it to wait 5 min before turning the WiFi off)? Or should I use tasker or automateit for something like this?
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larrycl said:
Is there any way to delay (eg I want it to wait 5 min before turning the WiFi off)? Or should I use tasker or automateit for something like this?
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You can setup a profile where if you press the power button the CPU speed is reduced and turn off all features except WiFi. I believe that after 5 minutes (or what ever time you have set for "Sleep" I believe the default is 2 minutes) the Nook will go to sleep and all features for Sleep will take over e.g. No WiFi.
This will give you two Power options:
1. let the Nook go to sleep on its own after 5 minutes (Screen would be on during this time killing battery life)
2. Press the power button and screen turns off but WiFi is still on and after 5 minutes sleep all features off.
You can monitor what it's doing by pressing the power button and waiting about 6 minutes. Then go to the CPU Tuner log (shift pages to the left until you see the log page) What you would want to see is the following:
11:08am ALL-> Performance
11:07am All-> Powersave
11:01am All -> Screen Off
11:00am ALL-> Performance
Please note that since the time is only shown as hours and minutes it possible to see settings with the same time stamp.
Good Luck.
If you have any questions please let me know.
Fantastic, exactly what I am looking for :good:
I must say that the OP was very good, and CPU Tuner is a great app ....
but times, and apps move on.
currently I use the free "Battery Doctor" from Google Play which does what Tuner can do, but in a much user friendlier way.
my tablet only loses 1 to 2% overnight and still has 80% or so left if not used for a few days.
the developer also has a great file cleaner utility which i also use, and the Task Killer, and memory cleaner widgets you get.
in my opinion they are MUST have's, and I no longer even use the paid version of Juice defender that was my favorite app.
carkev said:
I must say that the OP was very good, and CPU Tuner is a great app ....
but times, and apps move on.
currently I use the free "Battery Doctor" from Google Play which does what Tuner can do, but in a much user friendlier way.
my tablet only loses 1 to 2% overnight and still has 80% or so left if not used for a few days.
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I'm running CM11 Snapshot M3 and haven't been able to find a user friendly way to automatically get wifi off during sleep.
The built-in "turn off wifi during sleep" setting does not seem to be working.
Battery Doctor (Battery Saver) doesn't seem to work well on this ROM. After installing, it would seem to let me change the screen brightness (the slider would move), but then it would revert back to 20%. The app then crashed, and attempting to run it again after rebooting results in a black screen of death.
I've tried a couple other apps like WiFi Auto-Off and Advanced Battery Saver - Free, and neither succeeded in shutting off wifi during sleep.
Granted, I did not try CPU tuner with this ROM. I've tried it in the past and found it very unfriendly.
Anyone have a user friendly method to automatically get wifi off during sleep on CM11?
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Granted, I did not try CPU tuner with this ROM. I've tried it in the past and found it very unfriendly.
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I decided to give CPU Tuner another shot and it seems to work some of the time. I haven't been able to figure out what the difference is between the times it works and the times it doesn't.
InUrKitchin said:
I decided to give CPU Tuner another shot and it seems to work some of the time. I haven't been able to figure out what the difference is between the times it works and the times it doesn't.
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I just use the available quick toggles in CM11 to manually (1) switch off WiFi and (2) go to sleep.
Yes, there is a quick toggle for go to sleep.
I've pretty much have gave up on ever having great battery life on my Nook. Just the nature of the beast Still a great little tablet
Since all those apps automate disable wi-fi when system sleeps and you won't get any notifications if android apps. try to poll data from internet, I just set wi-fi to automatically turn off in android wi-fi advanced menus, there is no need of any of those apps since android system can do the same thing.
Nookt Tablet goes Nuts less than 50% Battery
Currently running CM 11 snapshot 5
Whenever my nook gets below 50% battery it goes nuts. apps open themselves, then shut down, windows open, if I am watching a video it stops then begins at the beginning. Weird.
Have had this issue before and was hoping with the upgrade it would stop, but no dice.
Help?
NoEnuf4Trbl said:
Currently running CM 11 snapshot 5
Whenever my nook gets below 50% battery it goes nuts. apps open themselves, then shut down, windows open, if I am watching a video it stops then begins at the beginning. Weird.
Have had this issue before and was hoping with the upgrade it would stop, but no dice.
Help?
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I have the same issue with my Nook Tablet. I will get to about 43% and it flips out. Apps opening, settings opening, Apps close, airplane mode comes, etc. I have to plug it back in to undo the mess and continue using it. I've had this issue with AndoidForNook's builds as well as the CM-acclaim 10.2.1 build.
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SonjaMichelle said:
I have the same issue with my Nook Tablet. I will get to about 43% and it flips out. Apps opening, settings opening, Apps close, airplane mode comes, etc. I have to plug it back in to undo the mess and continue using it. I've had this issue with AndoidForNook's builds as well as the CM-acclaim 10.2.1 build.
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Thanks, glad to know it's not just me and I don't have a real "ghost in the machine". I use my Nook on the train everyday, couple times a week I have to pull out an external battery to keep it going.
Using grrenify apn +cpu tuner
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