What's everyone's opinion on what is the better file format to use? I see no appreciable difference in the overall picture quality. Unfortunately my Samsung 3D tv does not recognize either format through DLNA, 3D video works fine though. I have read that JPS tends to be easier to edit and may be more usable by other devices. I notice that an MPO's details show the res at 1920 x 1080 where as JPS shows it as 3840 x 1080 (the 2 stereoscopic images combined).
Thoughts? I'd love for some photog enthusiasts to chime in here.
while im not entirely certain of this i believe that .mpo is an interleaved format while .jps is not, again im not sure but there is a 3d format that is interleaved
mpo stores the left eye and right eye as 2 files in the mpo file
jps is basically a renamed jpeg with both images side by side in 1 file (right eye on the left)
if you ever need to edit them on the PC, JPS is easier as it opens in windows picture viewer and you can just rename to .jpg and open in photoshop
JPS is also classed as the "industry standard"
there is no difference in quality and you can change between the 2 by simply loading either format into StereoPhoto Maker press "x" and save as the opposing format (mpo has left eye on the left, jps has it on the right, pressing "x" switches the side of the images)
Hope this helps
How does everyone view 3d pics on their PC's? I can't because of the file ext.
Change their extension to JPG, then open the file in irfanview or whatever you favorite photo viewer is. If you need to see the side-by-side images in 3D, horizontal flip them, then just cross your eyes until the two images meet in the middle.
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I'm using a free program called Stereo Photo Maker that another user on here turned me on to.
http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/
Works ok, but I haven't played with it much.
I have been converting some 3D movies to watch on the Evo 3D. 16:9 movies display perfectly. However, if a movie has an aspect ratio wider than 16:9, the Evo 3D always plays it stretched. The Evo does not allow you to change the playback mode between "best fit" and "full screen" while in 3D mode. That being said, if you choose "full screen" while in 2D mode and switch to 3D, the result is as expected: no black bars, but video stretched. If you choose "best fit" while in 2D mode and switch to 3D, black bars appear (as you would expect), BUT the video remains stretched, and the black bars actually trim the image.
So, other than editing the video and adding black bars, it looks like we're stuck with stretched faces. =(
Has anyone else noticed this? Any other solutions?
Thanks!
M
EDIT: Forgot to mention, 1st picture is 3D full screen, 2nd picture is 3D best fit, 3rd picture is 2D full screen, and 4th picture is 2D best fit.
It was right in front of my stoopid face!
Change Handbrake's cropping to custom, at least for videos whose source is 16:9 anamorphic.
Continuing the monologue...
I came across a 1920x800 file, and Handbrake doesn't seem to have the ability to add black bars, so I ended up cropping Left/Right to fill screen while maintaining the correct aspect ratio. This is good in a way because you maximize the use of the Evo 3D screen, but I may not want to do that to every wider 3D movie I come across.
Does anyone know of a quick and easy way to add black bars to an mp4?
Thanks.
M
EDIT: Yeah... don't do what I did (crop left/right). Pretty dumb move.
Yes, the cropping thing is a bad idea because it will crop the right side of the right image and the left side of the left image, leaving you with a completely misaligned 3d image.
I am at the same point as you are (or were). Cropping is not the way to go, but i will try to add black letterboxing bars. This seems to be not possible in Handbrake, but there must me some video encoding software that will let me do this. I will post if i have a solution.
As i do not like letterboxing, it would be ideal to have a solution here it would be possible to crop from the middle of the video, where the left border of the right and the right border of the left image are, if you know any video software that can do this, please post it!
I crop them, because if I don't I have black bars and I wanna use the whole screen when watching 3D.
How do you crop a SBS 3D video? All video encoder programs i know let you cut away the right and left border, but if you have a SBS 3D video, you would need to cut away the middle of the video too, where the other borders of the two images meet.
If you have a method to do that, please share it, as i too would like to use the whole screen.
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Okay, i have had success in adding letterbox bars. I have converted a 1280x538 video to a 960x540 and added letterbox bars, so it is displayed without distortion now. I don't like the black bars though, so i hope DexterMorganNL will elaborate on his method to crop the sides of 3D SBS video.
P.S. I used Sothink video converter, in the "advanced" tab on the right side of the window just select 960x540 as "Dimension" and click on convert.
I crop the Top and Bottom below away when converting with handbrake. It works good, I already watched 3D movies that I needed to crop.
It looks like we misunderstood each other then. It seems you were talking about movies with a lower aspect ratio than the phone's screen, for instance 4:3 (=1.33:1). If you add black bars to the sides of a video, it is actually called pillarboxing, by the way.
However i was talking about movies that had a higher aspect ratio and are therefore wider than the phone screen. For instance the video i converted to test the letterboxing had a resolution of 1280x528 which roughly equals 2.39:1, a common aspect ratio in cinemas.
For those videos, i currently have no alternative to letterboxing, as you cannot crop the sides because of the reason already described.
OK, i have sucessfully cropped the left/right borders by creating an avisynth script that first crops away everything but the center part of the left image that i want to keep, then does the same to the right image and finally combines the two center portions of the two images side by side. This is the script:
Code:
Sourcevideo = FFVideoSource("C:\Example\Example.mkv") # <= Loads the 3D-SBS source video
Lefteye = Sourcevideo.Crop(80,0,-720,-0) # <= Cuts away 80 pixels from the left side and 720 pixels from the right = the center portion of the left image is kept
Righteye = Sourcevideo.Crop(720,0,-80,-0) # <= Cuts away 720 pixels from the left side and 80 pixels from the right = the center portion of the right image is kept
Combinedvideo = StackHorizontal(Lefteye, Righteye) # <= puts togeter the two center portions side by side
Return Combinedvideo # <= Outputs the two portions as SPS 3D video.
This script was made for the 1280x528 mkv video i mentioned earlier. Obviously you have to change the amount of pixels to be cropped if you want to crop video of a different resolution. For a 1920x800 video, it would be 1084 and 124 pixels, for instance.
I used MediaCoder to load the avisynth script and encode the new cropped video. As the audio does not need to be changed, i extracted it from the original .mkv file with MKVextractGUI2 and loaded it with Mediacoder, enabling the "External File" checkbox (and also the "Copy Audio" one, as the audio should not be reencoded).
Of course you need Avisynth installed in order to do this, plus the FFmpegSource2 plugin.
So, i'm pretty happy and i think this answers the original question of the OP.
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Wow! Thanks! Will give it a shot.
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No problem, it would have been a waste spending time and effort to find a way to do this and then not share it.
If you have any question, let me know.
Oh, and btw, additionally to avisynth you need to have the FFmpegSource2 plugin installed, at least for .mkv files. It is possible you'll need other plugins for different input files, i am no expert on this stuff.
Are there any chance for convert my 3D photos to jpeg etc. file formats?
If you change the extension from *.jps to *.jpg, you'll get each picture side by side. After that, just crop it in paint/photoshop/etc.?
It worked thank's so much.
For quite a while I wondered how to edit my 3D photos, not anything too crazy just things like adjusting the contract, saturation, etc.. By default it seems that our camera captures 3D photos in mpo format, which is not possible to edit as easily as a jpeg in a photo editor. HOWEVER, if you set the format to jps, you can now edit them in any photo editor that can edit jpeg files!! Apparently jps files are just jpeg files with the right and left images side by side. I have attached a sample I did, for upload I had to set the file extension to jpg because jps wouldn't allow a file size over 97kb?! Anyhow I did this one in PicSay Pro but you can of course get more creative and use Photoshop or my favorite, GIMP. It's VERY EASY to do and very fun. For the longest time I didn't know how to do this so I thought I'd post this info for the others like me that didn't know. I was able to open the file for editing without changing the extension from jps to jpg/jpeg, HOWEVER the photo editing applications if they don't recognize or allow you to save it as a "jps" file extension just save it as a normal jpeg/jpg and then manually change the extension to jps and you will be able to view it in 3D like normal on your EVO 3D. ENJOY!!!!!!!
UPDATE:
You can now even edit your MPO 3D images, from your phone, but you have to convert them to SIDE BY SIDE JPEG first, and you can use this great program to do it! Tobidale3D!
Here's how:
1. Install Tobidal3D.
2. View your MPO 3D image from the regular Gallery*.
3. Select SHARE for the photo you want to convert, select Tobidale3D, then select SHARE AS 3D*.
4. Press MENU, then select Parallel Stereo Format (see attached).
*Optional method: You can just open Tobidale3D and view all your pics with it directly then save from there, but I think using the gallery is easier.
Now you can edit the newly saved file as it's converted to a side by side jpeg jps file (it has a jpeg/jpg extension). The rest of the original editing instructions apply.
Awesome editor! I would recommend in addition to PicSay Pro, which costs about 4 bucks, you can use Pixlr-o-matic. It's free and works great and creates high res images, unlike some editors. The default native editor apparently saves in the exact same resolution as the original file. So that's another option if you want to keep full resolution and if you're happy with the editing effects offered by it.
I have attached a zip file with the original MPO file, the file converted to SBS, one edited with the native gallery editor (High Contrast option), then 8 images edited with Pixlr-o-matic. I have optimized the jps files using GIMP on my PC for the sake of file size for this thread, usually however the pics were about a meg in size each.
Hope you guys enjoy editing your 3D pictures!!!!!!!!
Awesome man Thanx....
Nice,I got some work to do now lol
Shot from my sharp shooter in 3d
I updated the OP. Please check it out!
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Sorry if it's off topic a bit (which it is, or I wouldn't say that right?), but I can't find the result I'm looking for ANYWHERE. I just got an Aiptek 3D Camcorder, and it takes pictures not in .JPS, not in .MPO, but a regular side by side .JPG! I'm trying to find an online tool, or application (I'm on a Mac but I could probably run it in CrossOver if it's a Windows app) to convert FROM .JPG to either .MPO or .JPS. The end result is I want to create a wiggle animated GIF so that I don't need glasses to show people 3D pictures I've taken, so if someone even knows of a process to convert from .JPG to an animated GIF wiggle that would be even better. Thanks in advance!
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Sorry if it's off topic a bit (which it is, or I wouldn't say that right?), but I can't find the result I'm looking for ANYWHERE. I just got an Aiptek 3D Camcorder, and it takes pictures not in .JPS, not in .MPO, but a regular side by side .JPG! I'm trying to find an online tool, or application (I'm on a Mac but I could probably run it in CrossOver if it's a Windows app) to convert FROM .JPG to either .MPO or .JPS. The end result is I want to create a wiggle animated GIF so that I don't need glasses to show people 3D pictures I've taken, so if someone even knows of a process to convert from .JPG to an animated GIF wiggle that would be even better. Thanks in advance!
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Rename the jpg files to JPS. Viola! JPS is the same as JPG just has the JPS extension to show it's a STEREO (S) Jpeg. There is an application for windows to convert stereo images here:
http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/
Good luck!