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Hi, I have just bought a GS2 and first impression, except battery life, is this device is awesome !
So, I have search and found some tips to save baterry life.
They is 2 goods apps which call :
* JuiceDefender Ultimate
* Auto Apps Kill
Juice Defender Ultimate could be configurate to do anything for you, for example if you shutdown your screen it could cut off 3G and WIFI automatically, and reactivate it gently sometime.
The best conf I have made is to activate WIFI only on some area I know I can connect ! So when I'm at home he shutdown my 3G, activate my Wifi, and if he can't do that he switch back to 3G. He will learn your Wifi position and activate it automatically.
So you don't need to care turn off wifi, gps ou 3g, he do everything for you !
The ultimate (which cost a little), allow you to handle everything, lesser version don't have this tweak.
Auto Apps Killer, is a apps that automatically kill apps you don't need when screen if turn off,
So you don't need to shutdown manually apps, he do the think for you.
Of course you can ignore some apps, and they is a default ignore list that prevent shuting down widget and main apps that maintain your phone as good as if nothing was killing.
So with this both, my baterry has almost double, I can use it a day long.
But, it seems they is more thing todo when you are rooted.
My question is, does anybody has installed the rooted roms that allow you to change you CPU frequency automatically.
Is they any gain you can have by downscale your CPU when power isn't need.
I know CPU is set to 1200 mhz, and I think it doesn't go down or high. With a rooted version I could make it slow to 800 mhz or less in sleeping mode, and up to 1500 when I use it hard.
With this I should have some extra power, and extra battery, and not worry to go to my work and get back home without any battery at the end of the day.
Does anybody has experience this ?
Umm yes, all stock android phones keep CPU low when idle and then increase CPU when you use it. Just install system panel and see. Root is not needed for this, it is stock function.
Oh I see it vary from 200 mhz to 1200 mhz
I let my phone all night (8 hour), full of charge. When I wake up and check, my battery was a 72 % !!!
my iPhone was at 92%, it seems to drop too many cpu
I have stock crap from my operator that ofen run, rooted could help me to remove this.
I have install System Panel to check what tools use my baterry like this.
I have disactivate push, and lock once per hour the connection with Juice Defender, but battery drain without any usage,
it should be less no ?
Yes it should be less. Other people leave their galaxy s2 over night for 8 hours and only lose 5%. So something is wrong with your setup.
My battery life has been fantastic. Best on any android phone i've owned. I'm just rooted with a few things frozen.
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Yeah I know, it's would be a dream to save a lot of battery when it is suppose to be idle.
I can't remove crap apps from Bouygues and Samsung, so here my setting :
I have widget on :
AccuWeather,
Google Adsense,
Google Analytics,
Battery Monitor Widget,
I have tools on :
Juice Defender (which stop connection on night!)
AutoApps killer (one kill per hour)
SystemPanel (to know what use my cpu like this)
My Wifi is on for any data and not my 3G data,
JuiceDefender keep it like this when I'm at home
And everytime I look my lock screen, all data is off,
Once per hour it pull it on (and not during the night), fetch data and shut it down again.
In social hub I have :
Windows Live Messenger (but should be on only when I open it no ? any monitor don't tell me that it is the problem)
And 2 Microsoft Exange Account with Email, Calendar and Contact sync
Both account is sync once per 15 min the day, and once per hour the night
And I have twitter, facebook apps which sync sometime their data
It seems calendar in Exchange sync more often, that the over, not so sure
I know this seems a lot but it also a normal usage,
Any advice ?
I've got my SGS2 to a usage of 1-1.5% a hour in standby and 16% a hour when I do normal stuff, so no games.
I've done this with Agelom's Rom with Juice Defender Ultimate, Screenfilter and AdFree Android.
I set pulls to every 1 hour which is managed by Juice Defender, GPS off and Laditude(this kept my sgs2 awake) off.
geistteufel said:
They is 2 goods apps which call :
* JuiceDefender Ultimate
* Auto Apps Kill
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You can also try green power free from the market, its free and can turn off mobile data unlike the free version of juice defender.
I have just disconnect latitude. I will check if battery is better.
Thanks a lot for your tips.
Next step install windows.
Install kies
Odin
Rooted
And remove all bouygues crap apps that crash all the time !
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peachpuff said:
You can also try green power free from the market, its free and can turn off mobile data unlike the free version of juice defender.
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I have already buy juicer. It does it's job pretty well.
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The best way to save a lot of battery is to use SetCPU and lock speed at max 500mhz when screen is off. If you lock at 200mhz after a while you have to hard reboot because the phone don't want to wake up.
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geistteufel said:
The best way to save a lot of battery is to use SetCPU and lock speed at max 500mhz when screen is off. If you lock at 200mhz after a while you have to hard reboot because the phone don't want to wake up.
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I don't think SetCPU has any good effect on battery for GS II. When the screen is Off, and I guess the CPU isn't doing anything, then it will automatically run at 500 MHz or below. So there is no need to set the clock rate. I purchased the app, used it for two days at Ondemand preset, and the battery seems decreasing fast than in normal, which is weird, very weird. May be I yet to find the right setting of the appl, but till now it's not working for me and I have disabled it.
Regards.
Oh I think he has. In my case I often listen music with bluetooth. The cpu want to go above the 500mhz. So the limitation is useful. In the case I do nothing, yes it doesn't change anything.
ithehappy said:
I don't think SetCPU has any good effect on battery for GS II. When the screen is Off, and I guess the CPU isn't doing anything, then it will automatically run at 500 MHz or below. So there is no need to set the clock rate. I purchased the app, used it for two days at Ondemand preset, and the battery seems decreasing fast than in normal, which is weird, very weird. May be I yet to find the right setting of the appl, but till now it's not working for me and I have disabled it.
Regards.
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I use a free app called "cpu spy" it shows you how long your SGS2 spends in each frequency 200-1200 MHz
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
For those familiar with this app. I believe it is definitely helping battery life, but at some costs I'm not sure I like. For example it seems when I'm outdoors it disables data? Even at the balanced setting? Just by looking at the log I believe thats what I'm seeing. If it is disabling data, then that would mean no emails etc correct? Or does it periodic checks on its own and enables when necessary even when screen is off? Hope someone can explain.
With the default settings:
-it will periodically enable data for a short amount of time for all things like emails to get pushed through (under the schedule section)
-it will enable data when the screen is on, only after you unlock it. (that way you can check the time on your phone without having data enabled
With my settings (JD ultimate)
-the data will remain ON when certain apps are running in the background w/ the screen off (Pandora, Google Music, Google Maps)
-data will remain on when it's plugged into the wall (charging via usb is still the same)
-when apps request data (1kb/5s), data will be turned on for 15 seconds (more if needed)
-if connected to WiFi, data will be disabled.
-when on data, WiFi is disabled
-if there is an incoming MMS, data will be enabled
-My Juice Defender has also been trained to use cell towers (NOT GPS) to get my location. If i'm near a place where I have connected to WiFi before, it will turn on WiFi
I get 68% more battery out of my phone w/ this app. Just keep in mind this helps battery during standby (screen off) and not much else.
But when it's configured right, it's an easy battery boost that won't get in your way in terms of use.
So even with default settings, there is a schedule section? I didnt see that option.
I'm assuming you are using customize?
UPDATE: I did not see the controls and schedule tab even after selecting advanced. I had to kill the Juicedefender ultimate app and restart. Now when I check advanced, the tabs appear. Wow there are so many customizations. As said below, I would not mind a step by step set up to get best battery life results on note from you or others. Thanks.
Maroon Mushroom said:
With the default settings:
-it will periodically enable data for a short amount of time for all things like emails to get pushed through (under the schedule section)
-it will enable data when the screen is on, only after you unlock it. (that way you can check the time on your phone without having data enabled
With my settings (JD ultimate)
-the data will remain ON when certain apps are running in the background w/ the screen off (Pandora, Google Music, Google Maps)
-data will remain on when it's plugged into the wall (charging via usb is still the same)
-when apps request data (1kb/5s), data will be turned on for 15 seconds (more if needed)
-if connected to WiFi, data will be disabled.
-when on data, WiFi is disabled
-if there is an incoming MMS, data will be enabled
-My Juice Defender has also been trained to use cell towers (NOT GPS) to get my location. If i'm near a place where I have connected to WiFi before, it will turn on WiFi
I get 68% more battery out of my phone w/ this app. Just keep in mind this helps battery during standby (screen off) and not much else.
But when it's configured right, it's an easy battery boost that won't get in your way in terms of use.
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I would be interested in a step by step of your setup. I love JD Ultimate and I get better battery but I know it could be even better. Your setup sounds ideal.
Can you give us a walk through?
Agreed me too . So far on default juicedefender has really extended my battery life.
Juice Defender Setup Guide - Ultimate only
First thing's first. Download the apps. You will need the regular app and then the DJ ultimate license.
Launch Juice Defender Ultimate.
Under the STATUS tab. There is a section that says "Profile". Select "advanced" and then hit confirm. This unlocks a majority of the settings for the app and allows you to set custom triggers, app exceptions, and much more!
As you can see at the top, there should be a few more tabs that popped up.
Go to the "Schedules" tab
This section is what allows data to be periodically turned on so you can receive things like emails and and PUSH notifications. I have me enabled and set to a 30 minute frequency.
Going on down, we see the Night section. Set it to the hours that you normally sleep. This is disabling periodic data. This is good for 2 reasons: If you don't want things like email notifications waking up, and if your phone is not plugged in and you want to slow the battery drain of your phone.
I don't change anything else on this tab. Adaptive start for Night mode I leave on default (+2h max for start, end -1h max). If there is a period of data where you need instant connectivity for things like emails, then you can enable PEAK hours. (disables JD controls for a defined amount of time)
Triggers tab - this is the fun stuff.
Keep "battery" enabled. This ignores scheduled data on periods if your battery reaches a certain point.
Here is how I think about it. If you come home and you usually have about 40% of a charge, then set the threshold to 35%. By having it set to a point right below the average use like that, it's great because it won't get in your way as you work, but will still save battery on nights where you go out rather than going to a place with a charger nearby.
For charger, I set mine to AC because of how much faster it charges and getting emails during the night don't wake me up. (I sleep w/ it plugged in like many people) If things like email / other push notifications bother you at night, leave this off.
Screen. Leave this enabled. Simple as that.
Make sure Traffic is enabled. This allows apps to finish data transfers / downloads before data is cut off. I set mine to low at 15s so it doesn't interrupt downloads.
Apps. This is very important for a lot of people. Everyone has at least one app that they need to have data access going to when the screen is off. For me, it's Pandora, Google Music, and Google Maps. I set those 3 apps to enable / screen off. Meaning that if it's running on the phone, and it's in your pocket, those apps get as much data as they want because JD will be disabled for as long as they're on. Just hit the configure option, and choose which apps you want for enable / screen off.
Last one. Location. Just hit enable. When you connect to Wifi, it will remember your location w/ cell towers and not GPS. If JD detects that you are close to that access point, it will turn on WiFi again for you. It takes a bit of time to "train" Juice Defender to get the right position. But eventually, it works great!
Anything I didn't cover are things I didn't touch. (brightness / bluetooth / CPU controls)
Keep in mind, Juice Defender NEVER blocks your ability to receive / send texts and calls.
Maroon Mushroom said:
Juice Defender Setup Guide - Ultimate only
First thing's first. Download the apps. You will need the regular app and then the DJ ultimate license.
Launch Juice Defender Ultimate.
Under the STATUS tab. There is a section that says "Profile". Select "advanced" and then hit confirm. This unlocks a majority of the settings for the app and allows you to set custom triggers, app exceptions, and much more!
As you can see at the top, there should be a few more tabs that popped up.
Go to the "Schedules" tab
This section is what allows data to be periodically turned on so you can receive things like emails and and PUSH notifications. I have me enabled and set to a 30 minute frequency.
Going on down, we see the Night section. Set it to the hours that you normally sleep. This is disabling periodic data. This is good for 2 reasons: If you don't want things like email notifications waking up, and if your phone is not plugged in and you want to slow the battery drain of your phone.
I don't change anything else on this tab. Adaptive start for Night mode I leave on default (+2h max for start, end -1h max). If there is a period of data where you need instant connectivity for things like emails, then you can enable PEAK hours. (disables JD controls for a defined amount of time)
Triggers tab - this is the fun stuff.
Keep "battery" enabled. This ignores scheduled data on periods if your battery reaches a certain point.
Here is how I think about it. If you come home and you usually have about 40% of a charge, then set the threshold to 35%. By having it set to a point right below the average use like that, it's great because it won't get in your way as you work, but will still save battery on nights where you go out rather than going to a place with a charger nearby.
For charger, I set mine to AC because of how much faster it charges and getting emails during the night don't wake me up. (I sleep w/ it plugged in like many people) If things like email / other push notifications bother you at night, leave this off.
Screen. Leave this enabled. Simple as that.
Make sure Traffic is enabled. This allows apps to finish data transfers / downloads before data is cut off. I set mine to low at 15s so it doesn't interrupt downloads.
Apps. This is very important for a lot of people. Everyone has at least one app that they need to have data access going to when the screen is off. For me, it's Pandora, Google Music, and Google Maps. I set those 3 apps to enable / screen off. Meaning that if it's running on the phone, and it's in your pocket, those apps get as much data as they want because JD will be disabled for as long as they're on. Just hit the configure option, and choose which apps you want for enable / screen off.
Last one. Location. Just hit enable. When you connect to Wifi, it will remember your location w/ cell towers and not GPS. If JD detects that you are close to that access point, it will turn on WiFi again for you. It takes a bit of time to "train" Juice Defender to get the right position. But eventually, it works great!
Anything I didn't cover are things I didn't touch. (brightness / bluetooth / CPU controls)
Keep in mind, Juice Defender NEVER blocks your ability to receive / send texts and calls.
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Thanks bro
check your Google Plus
Thanks for that , am trying those settings now.
I have always hated that program and found it to screw up phones. Most of the time it actually makes batteries worse. Just my two cents.
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I'm not sure what to think of it. I set the settings as per Mushrooms suggestions. In an hour and a half, I've eaten through 14% of my battery with my screen off almost the entire time.
It says it's giving me 1.78x the amount of battery I normally would but normally I wouldn't be down 14% in an hour and a half.
cmucooper said:
I have always hated that program and found it to screw up phones. Most of the time it actually makes batteries worse. Just my two cents.
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yes, this has always been the general thought and what is posted most often.....I used to think the same thing until I used it on my SkyRocket.....it made a huge difference. I would get home from work before having JD on my phone and be at 20%.....when I installed JD after about a week....I would get home from work and be at 50%
So it may not work for everyone but my .02 cents is, try it and don't just automatically assume because people post that it sucks, that it sucks. Cause for me it is a lifesaver.
This coming from a guy who used to post the same things cmucooper just posted....I hated JD and bad mouthed it every time I could. But I never really used JD, I was always just spouting off what someone else had said about it....now I regret that cause it's worth it.
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kiltedthrower said:
I'm not sure what to think of it. I set the settings as per Mushrooms suggestions. In an hour and a half, I've eaten through 14% of my battery with my screen off almost the entire time.
It says it's giving me 1.78x the amount of battery I normally would but normally I wouldn't be down 14% in an hour and a half.
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I set mine up per Shrooms suggestions and I am in 3 hours unplugged and at 93%.....normally it would already be at 85% so I am in the positive.
Dunno why urs is in the negative
I'll give this a shot. My battery has been stellar when screen off. This would be cooler if it makes it even better
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Yea I would try the default settings first for a day or two, then you can try the settings posted here to see if it gets better or not. I also didnt like this app with other phones as I didnt see a difference but on the note's battery,I've been unplugged from the wall charger for about an hour on wifi with the screen off and its gone down 1% with me checking emails 2 times. Maybe not too impressive to some but for me this is good, I'll have to see when I'm at work this week.
unplugged now for a little over 7 hours and at 70%
Maroon Mushroom said:
Juice Defender Setup Guide - Ultimate only
First thing's first. Download the apps. You will need the regular app and then the DJ ultimate license.
Launch Juice Defender Ultimate.
Under the STATUS tab. There is a section that says "Profile". Select "advanced" and then hit confirm. This unlocks a majority of the settings for the app and allows you to set custom triggers, app exceptions, and much more!
As you can see at the top, there should be a few more tabs that popped up.
Go to the "Schedules" tab
This section is what allows data to be periodically turned on so you can receive things like emails and and PUSH notifications. I have me enabled and set to a 30 minute frequency.
Going on down, we see the Night section. Set it to the hours that you normally sleep. This is disabling periodic data. This is good for 2 reasons: If you don't want things like email notifications waking up, and if your phone is not plugged in and you want to slow the battery drain of your phone.
I don't change anything else on this tab. Adaptive start for Night mode I leave on default (+2h max for start, end -1h max). If there is a period of data where you need instant connectivity for things like emails, then you can enable PEAK hours. (disables JD controls for a defined amount of time)
Triggers tab - this is the fun stuff.
Keep "battery" enabled. This ignores scheduled data on periods if your battery reaches a certain point.
Here is how I think about it. If you come home and you usually have about 40% of a charge, then set the threshold to 35%. By having it set to a point right below the average use like that, it's great because it won't get in your way as you work, but will still save battery on nights where you go out rather than going to a place with a charger nearby.
For charger, I set mine to AC because of how much faster it charges and getting emails during the night don't wake me up. (I sleep w/ it plugged in like many people) If things like email / other push notifications bother you at night, leave this off.
Screen. Leave this enabled. Simple as that.
Make sure Traffic is enabled. This allows apps to finish data transfers / downloads before data is cut off. I set mine to low at 15s so it doesn't interrupt downloads.
Apps. This is very important for a lot of people. Everyone has at least one app that they need to have data access going to when the screen is off. For me, it's Pandora, Google Music, and Google Maps. I set those 3 apps to enable / screen off. Meaning that if it's running on the phone, and it's in your pocket, those apps get as much data as they want because JD will be disabled for as long as they're on. Just hit the configure option, and choose which apps you want for enable / screen off.
Last one. Location. Just hit enable. When you connect to Wifi, it will remember your location w/ cell towers and not GPS. If JD detects that you are close to that access point, it will turn on WiFi again for you. It takes a bit of time to "train" Juice Defender to get the right position. But eventually, it works great!
Anything I didn't cover are things I didn't touch. (brightness / bluetooth / CPU controls)
Keep in mind, Juice Defender NEVER blocks your ability to receive / send texts and calls.
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Thanks for this. I use Enhanced Email for my push email. I notice if I set mine as you suggest I don't get my emails in a timely manner. Do I add it to the apps section in order to get it through?
bkeaver said:
Thanks for this. I use Enhanced Email for my push email. I notice if I set mine as you suggest I don't get my emails in a timely manner. Do I add it to the apps section in order to get it through?
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Yes, you enable that app in the app section.
SysAdmNj said:
Yes, you enable that app in the app section.
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I have tried enabled and enable/screen off and neither one is working
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bkeaver said:
I have tried enabled and enable/screen off and neither one is working
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Not sure, you might want to try and enable the email app as well as the enhanced email app.
SysAdmNj said:
Not sure, you might want to try and enable the email app as well as the enhanced email app.
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Yeah that didn't work either.
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Have any of you that are using JuiceDefender tried installing the AOSP Helper yet?
Hello
My Razr Xt910 batteries consumption is high
For example i'm in bed for 7 hours , It consumes 20%!
Idle consumption is too high
i'm using 2G
wifi and... is off
I close all programs
changed ROM
and .....
But this problem exists
In your opinion, why is this problem?
May be a hardware problem?
Sorry for bad English
Thanks
There's an app called Watchdog Task Manager that can monitor your apps and phone processes. That might be able to help you pin point if you've got a rogue app.
My girlfriend had to swap out her first Razr for a similar problem. Her phone would not last her an entire day with very light use. Using Watchdog Task Manager I was able to find that the suspend process was hanging and causing the battery to drain very rapidly.
milkshed27 said:
There's an app called Watchdog Task Manager that can monitor your apps and phone processes. That might be able to help you pin point if you've got a rogue app.
My girlfriend had to swap out her first Razr for a similar problem. Her phone would not last her an entire day with very light use. Using Watchdog Task Manager I was able to find that the suspend process was hanging and causing the battery to drain very rapidly.
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How do u see that?
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milkshed27 said:
There's an app called Watchdog Task Manager that can monitor your apps and phone processes. That might be able to help you pin point if you've got a rogue app.
My girlfriend had to swap out her first Razr for a similar problem. Her phone would not last her an entire day with very light use. Using Watchdog Task Manager I was able to find that the suspend process was hanging and causing the battery to drain very rapidly.
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I installed the program but did not notice anything
Who can help me?
http://www.juicedefender.com/
If you were rooted you may get rid of some apps. Like if you dont use backup asst.
It always runs in the back round. I talked to a rep the other day that said just force stop it. I said duh but it will re start itself. Make a list of what you see is running in the back round and and we can figure what program it is to see if we can freeze or get rid of it. Ahh I see you tried different Roms. You can use and app like NoBloat freeze. What Rom did you use? There is more information we need and can go from there.
Edit: How to use , go to system ,apps and look at running. Do you have email setup? How often is that set to refresh for email. So many things to look at.
Install Watchdog and agree to the license.
Set the default monitor to aggressive using the pulldown menu.
Hit the menu button on you phone and go to preferences.
Click "CPU threshold" and set it to 20%.
Click "Polling interval" and set it to 1 minute.
Click "Real time polling interval" and set it to 5 seconds.
Where it says "Include phone processes" make sure that is checked.
Click and check mark "Monitor phone processes" and "Display all phone processes"
Click on "System process CPU threshold" and set it to 40%
Now Watchdog will monitor all your apps and processes and will alert you if anything is going over the thresholds you have set. You can see what the culprit is under the alerts tab in the main menu.
Also, by going into the CPU tab on the app main menu, if you check "real time CPU" you can monitor your CPU usage in real time yourself. Anything in cyan is a background app/process, white is for system processes, and green is for apps/processes in the foreground.
I still use this app quite a bit especially if I install a few new apps, although I run it with the CPU polling interval at 10 minutes and the System process CPU threshold at 50% in my everyday usage to minimize CPU usage.
The suspend process that was giving my girlfriend problems on her phone can be seen while in the CPU tab if you check "real time CPU." I believe it will pop up after your phone is unlocked but should afterward stop and not consume any CPU. On my girlfriend's old phone this would not be the case. The suspend process would hang and constantly alert through Watchdog that it was exceeding the percentage threshold.
I'm not sure if this will be of any help and I apologize if it does not but it did help me. Good luck.
blueis300 said:
If you were rooted you may get rid of some apps. Like if you dont use backup asst.
It always runs in the back round. I talked to a rep the other day that said just force stop it. I said duh but it will re start itself. Make a list of what you see is running in the back round and and we can figure what program it is to see if we can freeze or get rid of it. Ahh I see you tried different Roms. You can use and app like NoBloat freeze. What Rom did you use? There is more information we need and can go from there.
Edit: How to use , go to system ,apps and look at running. Do you have email setup? How often is that set to refresh for email. So many things to look at.
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Thank you very much
Rom 2.3.6
Version: 65.1.40.XT910.AsiaRetail.en.03
I close all running programs
I even removed the SIM card
But ...
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Running:
Setting
My Music
Sticky Note
News (i dont use it)
Homescreen
Google Services
My Gallery
MOBiDIV keyboard
I dont have a gsm razr but the maxx cdma. Look at what the post above says and try it. What is the actual live of the battery after a day of use or how long does it last with normal usage?
blueis300 said:
I dont have a gsm razr but the maxx cdma. Look at what the post above says and try it. What is the actual live of the battery after a day of use or how long does it last with normal usage?
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About 20 hours
and phone idle consumption is high
Watchdog alert:
suspend
Linux Process
43.4%
What's this?
What should I do?
You should use SetCPU and underclock your CPU so it runs slower but provides better battery life.
Switch the governor to the regular hotplug instead of mot_hotplug and under advanced change the sampling rate to 30000, up threshold to 95, down threshold to 50. Also in profiles set up profiles for various circumstances so if you're sleeping, you can make it so that if the screen is off you're limited to 300/600 mhz and so on.
I was using the ondemand governor earlier and then I stumbled upon some descriptions of them where they explained hotplug as being very similar to ondemand but having the capability to switch off the second core if there is not enough workload which I believe ondemand doesn't allow you to do.
Yesterday, I was at 65% battery left after 9 1/2 hrs of mild usage (2 phonecalls, 100 sms, bit of im'ing, light browsing and a couple of emails). Had the profile set so that it would limit clock at 600mhz when my battery is under 90% and at 800mhz when its above 90%.
evonc said:
You should use SetCPU and underclock your CPU so it runs slower but provides better battery life.
Switch the governor to the regular hotplug instead of mot_hotplug and under advanced change the sampling rate to 30000, up threshold to 95, down threshold to 50. Also in profiles set up profiles for various circumstances so if you're sleeping, you can make it so that if the screen is off you're limited to 300/600 mhz and so on.
I was using the ondemand governor earlier and then I stumbled upon some descriptions of them where they explained hotplug as being very similar to ondemand but having the capability to switch off the second core if there is not enough workload which I believe ondemand doesn't allow you to do.
Yesterday, I was at 65% battery left after 9 1/2 hrs of mild usage (2 phonecalls, 100 sms, bit of im'ing, light browsing and a couple of emails). Had the profile set so that it would limit clock at 600mhz when my battery is under 90% and at 800mhz when its above 90%.
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I do not think the problem is the cpu usage
I think the battery has problem
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My battery also drains very fast, I have no clue why but I will try to charge it 100% tommorow and see how long it will last.
Please somebody help me!
May be a hardware problem?
Milad._.R said:
Please somebody help me!
May be a hardware problem?
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Try the app juicedefender and see if that helps? a longshot but maybe its worth.
20 hours out of your phone but is that moderate usage? Forget about idle time. Do you not get regular usage out of your phone?
i have a Moto razr my own , and never noticed how much the battery would last.
of course it won't concern me much , cause i already prepared my self for a lousy battery back up with a 4.3 inch display and dual core cpu!!
i got your back on this whole messed up battery fiesta thing buddy ,
i'm gonna charge my razr up , and see how it's battery gonna react , if it's as bad as your device , chances are , it's a pretty common problem on every xt910 units , and you don't need to be worry about a thing.
Try the app juicedefender and see if that helps? a longshot but maybe its worth.
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I use this program but had no effect
blueis300 said:
20 hours out of your phone but is that moderate usage? Forget about idle time. Do you not get regular usage out of your phone?
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It does not matter, because the unemployment in 7 hours, 20% is consumed
sorry for bad english!
Have a look on this guide ( the last post) http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-razr/182391-random-apps-running-help.html
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after reading a few tips on the forums, I did the following:
1. installed SetCPU (paid) and made a custom "profile" that, when I turn the screen off, it reduces the CPU activity to the minimum (300)
2. I installed an app called "2x battery" (free) which will kill my data when the screen is off... I have it set up to where it will briefly enable my data connection every 15 min. to check for emails/texts, etc., and I also have it set up to where, if I have an active data connection (i.e. pandora) then it will not disable the data during that period.
3. With the 2x battery it also doubles as a manual task killer... or you can also install "memory booster" (lite = free)
4. set my wallpaper background to black
with these things I have really noticed an increase in battery power... try them and see what you think!
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oh yeah, after you are at 100% on your battery and have unplugged it and plugged it back in a couple times and it still stays at 100, then reboot into recovery (while still plugged in) - go to advanced - wipe battery stats - reboot - unplug and run battery all the way down till it dies - charge up without unplugging. see if that helps, it will re-condition your battery.
My Galaxy S3 Battery Life Sucks Please Help! 15% After Only 7 Hours.
I’ve been having this same problem sense I got my phone about 2 months ago but now I’m finally just tired of it! My phone is rooted, using the stock ROM.
What I do to help battery life:
- Every morning I hold the home button and kill multitasking and kill all running aps in the background then I open autokill which automatically kills running apps in the background that are not needed.
- I have power saving enabled
- Easy Battery Saver running
After 7 hours of use I’m already at 15% and through out the day I barley use my phone. Its like this just about everyday. I use my phone about an hour of the entire day of web surfing and Facebook usage etc. The rest of the day I’m only texting and maybe taking 3 or 4 phone calls that last 10 mins. How much battery could that possibly take? A flip phone can do that and last 3 days..
I used my iPhone 4S much more during the day then I do the galaxy S3 because the S3 has terrible battery life.
On my iPhone I would have about 22% after everyday of using it for 11 hours down time = sleep and 4 hours of usage = texting, , phone calls, web surfing, games etc.
I don’t play games or watch movies on my S3. Only texting, instagram, facebook, websurfing which is about an hour a day usage. Also a couple minutes of GPS usage on some days.
What can I do to fix this? I don’t want a bigger battery that will make my phone any thicker.
I have pictures below showing usage through out the day and usage under battery.
Please help!
Thanks!
You screen is using most of your battery. Check the brightness levels. Are they on max or close to it? Switch it to auto
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You screen is using most of your battery. Check the brightness levels. Are they on max or close to it? Switch it to auto
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My brightness is always set to lowest possible expect while walking from to and from class. Ill post a little more pics maybe these can help figure out the problem problem?
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My brightness is always set to lowest possible expect while walking from to and from class. Ill post a little more pics maybe these can help figure out the problem problem?
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Oh thats easy.
You're phone is always "Awake". It doesn't go into Deep sleep like everyone elses. If you take a look at the first picture you linked with the graph, it shows that the phone is always AWAKE.
For comparison, I have attached mine as a reference but something is DEFINITELY keeping your phone awake.
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Oh thats easy.
You're phone is always "Awake". It doesn't go into Deep sleep like everyone elses. If you take a look at the first picture you linked with the graph, it shows that the phone is always AWAKE.
For comparison, I have attached mine as a reference but something is DEFINITELY keeping your phone awake.
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From pics ive posted can you tell which apps are not letting it go into deep sleep?
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From pics ive posted can you tell which apps are not letting it go into deep sleep?
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Can't really see anything that stands out per say...
If you see anything on that thread or any apps on your phone that you think could be keeping it awake, just uninstall them. I would suggest trying to remove them a few at a time just to narrow down which ones are keeping the phone awake.
Also, apparently this app helps a lot (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy) and Better Battery stats should give you a better idea of which apps use the CPU while your phone is trying to sleep.
Oh and remove any task managers you have installed.. Those tend to be the worst offenders.
One last thing, found this on another forum:
- Don't use an automatic task killer--not even the one that comes with the phone. Reboot your phone and look at what's running. If anything that you've installed is running and there's no reason for it, then uninstall it and find an alternative that behaves. Ignore any stock apps that run on boot as I've found them to be more or less benign.
- Weather widgets, live wallpapers, news/social feeds, any app or service that you use that runs--do without it if you can. If you can’t do without it, lengthen it’s refresh time.
- Don't use antivirus
- Set your WIFI sleep policy to never. The default is "turn off when screen turns off". This will cause the wifi to reconnect every time you open the phone. From any Home Screen select Menu/Settings/Wireless & Networks/ and then use the Menu button to see some new options - select Advanced. Then select Wifi Sleep Policy and set it to Never. Home key to return to Home Screen.
- If you have access to wifi, leave it toggled on as it is more efficient than 3G. Wifi consumes less battery power than 3G.
- I leave GPS toggled on too by the way. Apps use it as needed. When I'm done with Maps or an app that uses it, I'm sure to return to the home screen so GPS can stop. Under wireless settings turn on "Google location services" so that an app is able to use network resources to get your location instead of GPS. I have "VZW location services" turned off--don't know why that option is even there. By the way, I increase the speed of voice output > text to speech > speech rate because I like the directions to get spit out faster. That saves a bit of battery. Turning off the display and just listening for directions help. Also, often I just get the directions and then exit back to the home screen: GPS uses so much battery I try to get it over with ASAP.
- Under Accounts, click on any account listed and turn off sync for any items that you're not interested in syncing. For example, Google Books if you don't use it. Don't use Backup Assistant--I prefer syncing my contacts with Google. You don't need both. Also go into your contacts > menu > display options > backup assistant > UNCHECK. Also do contacts > menu > more > settings > contact storage > and select your Google account and "remember this choice"
Are you on the 3G network a lot or weak signal areas? Is your phone hot around the bottom? If yes to both, most likely it's because of the system attempting to find a better signal. When I was swapping out my SIMs, in various countries, I only have 3G network and my battery fully drains in 7hrs at idle. The only way i can go a whole day is to place my phone into airplane mode or wifi only to conserve the battery.
my battery runs at-most 13 hrs........................
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My Galaxy S3 Battery Life Sucks Please Help! 15% After Only 7 Hours.
I’ve been having this same problem sense I got my phone about 2 months ago but now I’m finally just tired of it! My phone is rooted, using the stock ROM.
What I do to help battery life:
- Every morning I hold the home button and kill multitasking and kill all running aps in the background then I open autokill which automatically kills running apps in the background that are not needed.
- I have power saving enabled
- Easy Battery Saver running
After 7 hours of use I’m already at 15% and through out the day I barley use my phone. Its like this just about everyday. I use my phone about an hour of the entire day of web surfing and Facebook usage etc. The rest of the day I’m only texting and maybe taking 3 or 4 phone calls that last 10 mins. How much battery could that possibly take? A flip phone can do that and last 3 days..
I used my iPhone 4S much more during the day then I do the galaxy S3 because the S3 has terrible battery life.
On my iPhone I would have about 22% after everyday of using it for 11 hours down time = sleep and 4 hours of usage = texting, , phone calls, web surfing, games etc.
I don’t play games or watch movies on my S3. Only texting, instagram, facebook, websurfing which is about an hour a day usage. Also a couple minutes of GPS usage on some days.
What can I do to fix this? I don’t want a bigger battery that will make my phone any thicker.
I have pictures below showing usage through out the day and usage under battery.
Please help!
Thanks!
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Welcome to smartphones. The calls alone will drain the battery. Seven hours isn't horrible for all that. It isn't a flip phone.
why your phone is always awaking?
mattwarr said:
Welcome to smartphones. The calls alone will drain the battery. Seven hours isn't horrible for all that. It isn't a flip phone.
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maybe you have to flash a new rom
If you want, you could try to flash a custom ROM. I had the same problem that you have, and I flashed Revolutionary S5, and now my phone lasts minimum two days with the same usage, maybe a bit more.
Too bad Tony Stark hasn't gotten involved
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maybe you have to flash a new rom
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Titanium Backup will assist a little bit. When you do a backup of an apk it will tell you if the application is running. You can find all kinds of sneaky apps this way. Many of them were ones I didn't use and didn't really want. That will probably yield minimal results, though. Keeping a black background helps on my S3. Colors, widgets, and live backgrounds will drain the battery. Turn off the menu and back key lights. You know the buttons are there. Turn off all haptic feedback and key press sounds. Of course, try to lower the screen brightness. Leaving my data and sync on hasn't caused me any problems, but you will save some battery by turning them off when not in use. I also read a post about hidden menu options that ran even when they weren't meant to. That was an issue that destroyed battery life. Some ROMs also have settings for data connection type. You'll save power by telling your phone to not worry about gaining signals like 4g, 3g, etc. As other people have said, try out some ROMs that make battery life a big priority.
it CAN get better
if you want to have a good battery life, use custom rom and kernel (or a modified stock like omega rom), watch out for wakelocks + apply these settings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/guide-complete-guide-battery-saving-t2495276
also, interesting info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/post-battery-stats-t2621654
I've had my Z5C for about 10 days. I'm relatively happy with it, except for the battery life. Much worse than my old Z1C. Less than 24 hours of battery; my Z1C always got 24+. So, last night I tried the Stamina mode for the first time. Very UNIMPRESSED! I must be missing something.
1. In Stamina mode I still loss 15% of my charge in 7 hours.
2. With Stamina mode on it takes a couple minutes for my Wi-Fi to reconnect once I turn the screen on. Hardly usable.
What am I missing? Are any of you happy with the battery life? Does it improve over time? If you use Stamina mode, what are your settings and what is a typical battery discharge amount over an 8 hour period of non-use? Suggestions?
Thanks.
Im quite pleased with the battery life. 2-3 days with abt 4 hrs screen on time. I have disabled few services and applications from settings. There is a thread about it. Last night battery dropped only about 2%
For starters, disable location and untick "Scanning always available" under Wifi>Advanced Settings. Disable photo analyser service under All apps. Try these out first
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For starters, disable location and untick "Scanning always available" under Wifi>Advanced Settings. Disable photo analyser service under All apps. Try these out first
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Thanks for you reply. Some questions/points:
1. What am I losing if "Location" is off? For instance, GPS, weather?
2. Can you explain what "Scanning always available" does?
3. Couldn't find photo analyser service. Any thoughts?
4. I've removed set of widgets created with Zooper Widget Pro. I've read that it's a battery hog; any opinions?
5. I'm using an old weather app, BeWeather, because I like its widgets. I did notice that under "Location" BeWeather showed high battery use, while the Google apps listed showed low battery use. Any weather apps with widgets suggestions that might have low battery use?
Again, I appreciate your reply.
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Thanks for you reply. Some questions/points:
1. What am I losing if "Location" is off? For instance, GPS, weather?
2. Can you explain what "Scanning always available" does?
3. Couldn't find photo analyser service. Any thoughts?
4. I've removed set of widgets created with Zooper Widget Pro. I've read that it's a battery hog; any opinions?
5. I'm using an old weather app, BeWeather, because I like its widgets. I did notice that under "Location" BeWeather showed high battery use, while the Google apps listed showed low battery use. Any weather apps with widgets suggestions that might have low battery use?
Again, I appreciate your reply.
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I might be wrong on some points, if this changed over the years, but...
1) If android/google isn't searching for location constantly, it will remember the last known location. So only your approximate location will be known, and apps that use it more specifically (like google fit, running apps etc.) will be less effective.
2) It means that your phone will connect to Google servers, even when Wifi is off. As far as I know.
3) It should be in your list with all apps. If it's not, I have no clue where else you should look.
5) I use "transparent clock & weather", and I never ask it to update his location constantly. Instead, I use a fixed location. Even when I'm 100km away from here, the weather will still be about the same, so for me that's enough.
Can't you look at the battery usage stats and disable anything that is near the top that you dont need?
I find the normal drain while using it is about the same as even my old phone. However standby is much much better. I used the phone sparingly and it lasted me about 2.5 days. On average, its lasting me about 2 days. On heavy usage days, I only get a day out of it. I havent had it very long so more testing is needed. There was only one instance where it drained really fast. I was in a plane on the ground. It seems that the reception is rather poor so it has to try alot harder to maintain a signal.
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Can't you look at the battery usage stats and disable anything that is near the top that you dont need?
I find the normal drain while using it is about the same as even my old phone. However standby is much much better. I used the phone sparingly and it lasted me about 2.5 days. On average, its lasting me about 2 days. On heavy usage days, I only get a day out of it. I havent had it very long so more testing is needed. There was only one instance where it drained really fast. I was in a plane on the ground. It seems that the reception is rather poor so it has to try alot harder to maintain a signal.
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Thanks for your reply.
I looked at the power management stats. Oddly, the battery usage is:
Screen 34%
Cell standby 8%
Phone idle 6%
Android system 4%
Android OS 4%
Nothing else is listed. Under App Power Consumption it shows "Currently no apps to report". I don't feel that I'm a heavy user; minimal calls; minimal browser use; minimal texts. I have a weather widget with clock on both screens I've set up. The weather is set to update every 30 minutes. I've stopped using a couple widgets, as mentioned above, but I still don't see a significant improvement.
When you say "standby is much much better", are you talking about Stamina mode, or something else?
Thanks again.
Unless you use google maps, location doesn't matter all that much. Also if you need it in any app, you will be prompted to enable it. Once your work is done, you can turn it off again. Location actually does eat a considerable amount of battery.
About "scanning always available". It means that the phone will constantly be looking for wifi even if the wifi is turned off. This causes standby battery drain so it's good to leave it off.
I'm not sure about the widgets though as I haven't used them.
Lastly, photo analyser service should be in Settings>Apps>All Apps. Disable it to improve performance and battery life as reported by many users here and on talk.sonymobile.com
Cheers
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I might be wrong on some points, if this changed over the years, but...
1) If android/google isn't searching for location constantly, it will remember the last known location. So only your approximate location will be known, and apps that use it more specifically (like google fit, running apps etc.) will be less effective.
2) It means that your phone will connect to Google servers, even when Wifi is off. As far as I know.
3) It should be in your list with all apps. If it's not, I have no clue where else you should look.
5) I use "transparent clock & weather", and I never ask it to update his location constantly. Instead, I use a fixed location. Even when I'm 100km away from here, the weather will still be about the same, so for me that's enough.
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Re: item 3. I had already disabled.
Any more suggestions? I turned on Stamina last night; still lost about 2% an hour. At the rate I now see (including using Stamina at night), I might get 36 hours of usage per charge, and I'm not a heavy user. Nowhere near some of the reports I've seen. I've turned off location, turned off weather updates for 6 hours of the night, turned off scanning always available in Wi-Fi, disabled photo analyzer, and removed widgets that seem to be "on" all the time. Additional questions:
1. I noticed that I have "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" set to always; is that OK, or do most of you have that off?
2. Are you all using the regular Stamina mode or the Ultra mode?
3. What is your setting for "Queue background data"?
That's it for now. But I expect to have more questions until I see the 2-3 day range you all talk about.
Thanks.
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Any more suggestions? I turned on Stamina last night; still lost about 2% an hour. At the rate I now see (including using Stamina at night), I might get 36 hours of usage per charge, and I'm not a heavy user. Nowhere near some of the reports I've seen. I've turned off location, turned off weather updates for 6 hours of the night, turned off scanning always available in Wi-Fi, disabled photo analyzer, and removed widgets that seem to be "on" all the time. Additional questions:
1. I noticed that I have "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" set to always; is that OK, or do most of you have that off?
2. Are you all using the regular Stamina mode or the Ultra mode?
3. What is your setting for "Queue background data"?
That's it for now. But I expect to have more questions until I see the 2-3 day range you all talk about.
Thanks.
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Try another night with Network mode set to gsm only. Just a thought
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I actually lose 0-1% overnight (in 8 hours on an average) on GSM only. I usually keep it on 2G. So basically my overnight battery drain is negligible. Also, I don't even use Stamina mode
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Try another night with Network mode set to gsm only. Just a thought
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I actually lose 0-1% overnight (in 8 hours on an average) on GSM only. I usually keep it on 2G. So basically my overnight battery drain is negligible. Also, I don't even use Stamina mode
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Thanks for your reply. I've set the network to GSM Only. Seems to help a bit, but I'm still getting 2% battery drainage PER HOUR with Stamina ON! during the night. Again, looking at all the suggestions. The only one that I really use and would rather not disable is "Location". All of the apps under location show "Low battery use". I also prefer to have my screen brightness always around 90% (old age ). Can you tell me what widgets you have on your screens? I'm thinking I'll slowly delete each widget, if any of you think that'll help. I can live with 30+ hours of battery, but it's far from what I was expecting after reading the reviews. My Z1C had better battery duration.
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Thanks for your reply. I've set the network to GSM Only. Seems to help a bit, but I'm still getting 2% battery drainage PER HOUR with Stamina ON! during the night. Again, looking at all the suggestions. The only one that I really use and would rather not disable is "Location". All of the apps under location show "Low battery use". I also prefer to have my screen brightness always around 90% (old age ). Can you tell me what widgets you have on your screens? I'm thinking I'll slowly delete each widget, if any of you think that'll help. I can live with 30+ hours of battery, but it's far from what I was expecting after reading the reviews. My Z1C had better battery duration.
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I just have the walkman and clock widgets. Also, i switched wifi off before going to sleep or if it is switched on, i turn on stamina. Also, i have all sorts of sync disabled as i sync manually. My battery is nearly as good as that on Z3c (which is pretty amazing). Maybe some app is acting up on your part :/ I have nothing else to suggest man.
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I just have the walkman and clock widgets. Also, i switched wifi off before going to sleep or if it is switched on, i turn on stamina. Also, i have all sorts of sync disabled as i sync manually. My battery is nearly as good as that on Z3c (which is pretty amazing). Maybe some app is acting up on your part :/ I have nothing else to suggest man.
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Might be my weather app. It's set to update every hour. I'll try turning off the wi-fi tonight. Last night I lost 11% in 8 hours. Acceptable, but not great. Maybe I'm looking for too much.
Thanks again for your reply.
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Might be my weather app. It's set to update every hour. I'll try turning off the wi-fi tonight. Last night I lost 11% in 8 hours. Acceptable, but not great. Maybe I'm looking for too much.
Thanks again for your reply.
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Maybe it's the location plus the weather app and wifi hahahha. :'D
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Maybe it's the location plus the weather app and wifi hahahha. :'D
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Not the weather app. It's set to not update from 11pm to 5am. Tried the location off, no improvement. WiFi was off using Stamina. Something else is going on that uses 2% an hour no matter what.
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Not the weather app. It's set to not update from 11pm to 5am. Tried the location off, no improvement. WiFi was off using Stamina. Something else is going on that uses 2% an hour no matter what.
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Aaaand I've run out of ideas. Try gsam batrery monitor from the playstore. Let it run through the night. That should give you an idea of the consuming apps
Thanks for your reply. I turned off my WiFi last night; only a 4% total loss. Tonight I'll try both the WiFi off and stamina, in addition to your battery monitor suggestion. Getting close! ?
Lost just 2% over 7 hours tonight! Stamina on. But I think my problems were all caused by my Bluetooth. I have 2 speakers on either end of my place that were always on. I also had my phone's BT always on. I noticed that at times both speakers showed being connected at the same time. I suspect that BT was constantly connecting and disconnecting as I moved through the apartment. I've turned off the BT on my phone. Battery life much improved. It's been 21 hours since my last charge and I'm still at 58%.
Thanks to all who responded.
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Lost just 2% over 7 hours tonight! Stamina on. But I think my problems were all caused by my Bluetooth. I have 2 speakers on either end of my place that were always on. I also had my phone's BT always on. I noticed that at times both speakers showed being connected at the same time. I suspect that BT was constantly connecting and disconnecting as I moved through the apartment. I've turned off the BT on my phone. Battery life much improved. It's been 21 hours since my last charge and I'm still at 58%.
Thanks to all who responded.
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Aah finally hahahah