Safe to Downgrade/nandroid restore on XWLPO with siyah kernel? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As there is a lot of confusing post on the topic of the stock rom XWLPO, and my question is:
Is it safe to downgrade through odin/Nandroid restore the newest rom (XWLPO) with the Siyah kernel installed? As I don't want the Brick bug to kill my device.

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MistahBungle said:
Yes. Brick is triggered by a flag in the kernel being on. Siyah doesn't have it.
Edit - As long as you don't wipe or whatever via CWM with a kernel which has that flag set to on, you should be fine.
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Oh thanks for clearing that for me!

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[Q] Stock Samsung ICS 4.0.4 ROM + Siyah Kernel: any benefits

I am taking baby steps for the moment after having found that my S2-I9100 is vulnerable to the infamous Brick Bug (Yes, I have an insane chip).
Just wondering what benefits there would be in flashing the Siyah Kernel (v4.1.5) on my S2-I9100 running a stock Samsung ICS 4.0.4 ROM.
Other than slightly improved battery life, what else can I look forward to with the Siyah kernel with a stock Samsung ROM?
ssahmed532 said:
I am taking baby steps for the moment after having found that my S2-I9100 is vulnerable to the infamous Brick Bug (Yes, I have an insane chip).
Just wondering what benefits there would be in flashing the Siyah Kernel (v4.1.5) on my S2-I9100 running a stock Samsung ICS 4.0.4 ROM.
Other than slightly improved battery life, what else can I look forward to with the Siyah kernel with a stock Samsung ROM?
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the most important benifit u have is that 'Siyah kernel' is free of the 'eMMc' bug which could potentially damage ur phone
Root, cwm touch, dual boot, etc
Sun90 said:
the most important benifit u have is that 'Siyah kernel' is free of the 'eMMc' bug which could potentially damage ur phone
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Yes, that I am already aware of!
So other than being safe from the Brick Bug, what else can I look forward to with the Siyah kernel and a stock ICS ROM?
ssahmed532 said:
Yes, that I am already aware of!
So other than being safe from the Brick Bug, what else can I look forward to with the Siyah kernel and a stock ICS ROM?
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u have to install the same to see the benifts ma8
since i am using 'Siyah' with a custom JB rom,hence not aware of how it wrks with a stock samsung rom
So just to be clear (as a complete noob who has never attempted anything of this nature before) flashing Siyah v5.0i with a phone known to have the infamous brick bug chip is safe?
redchris said:
So just to be clear (as a complete noob who has never attempted anything of this nature before) flashing Siyah v5.0i with a phone known to have the infamous brick bug chip is safe?
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yes, because you are not wiping anything until after you install the kernal which is brick bug free.
Cosmic Blue said:
yes, because you are not wiping anything until after you install the kernal which is brick bug free.
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Thanks for the quick answer Cosmic Blue. So I flashed the Siyah kernal and lo - it worked (thank god!). So now a question: If the Siyah krnal is brick bug free should I expect to see the brick bug check app to give me a negative result? it is telling me that my phone still has the brick bug.
redchris said:
Thanks for the quick answer Cosmic Blue. So I flashed the Siyah kernal and lo - it worked (thank god!). So now a question: If the Siyah krnal is brick bug free should I expect to see the brick bug check app to give me a negative result? it is telling me that my phone still has the brick bug.
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Because the app is checking to see if the hardware eMMC chip your phone has is susceptible to the brick bug. If your chip still has the potential to be affected by the bug, changing the kernel won't fix that, but if you have a kernel which has MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled, then you will be safe.
So by flashing Siyah, you are safe (because it has MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled), but your phone will still report as having the bug.
Make sense?
I think its the chip thats the problem....so youve still got the same chip.
thanks for the helpful answers folks and sorry for the inane questions. My reasons for flashing to Siyah were twofold: I experience frequent lock ups and significant battery drain. I thought I'd try JB and see if that made a difference. Having the brick bug chip persuaded me to try Siyah. Now I just need to figure our how to update to JB and dual boot. I found this thread which seems helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680851
So more inane questions: I need to install a JB rom, right? CM10 M1? Are there any further risks associated with takingthis step?
Thanks again in advance for any help.
stock rom download
any one knows where to download the stock rom of s2. i have stock rom ICS 4.0.3 with siyah v5 kernel.
Tranzphormed said:
any one knows where to download the stock rom of s2. i have stock rom ICS 4.0.3 with siyah v5 kernel.
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/ and flash via odin.
redchris said:
thanks for the helpful answers folks and sorry for the inane questions. My reasons for flashing to Siyah were twofold: I experience frequent lock ups and significant battery drain. I thought I'd try JB and see if that made a difference. Having the brick bug chip persuaded me to try Siyah. Now I just need to figure our how to update to JB and dual boot. I found this thread which seems helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680851
So more inane questions: I need to install a JB rom, right? CM10 M1? Are there any further risks associated with takingthis step?
Thanks again in advance for any help.
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You don't 'need' to, but as long as you make a nandroid backup (backup your apps with TB pro, sms with sms backup and restore etc) and follow the installation instructions, to the letter, for each rom u wanna try, you'll be fine. And if u ever fancy going back to stock, just restore your nandroid. Happy flashing
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
stock kernel
Thanks a lot for the answer; I would also require stock kernel of it.

[Q] How to root galaxy s2 I-9100 Stock ICS 4.0.3 kernel UHLPM

Evening everyone
I was reading about how to flash CWM with CF-root but found a lot of issues regarding stock ICS LPM Kernel, it may lead to a hard brick
My question is, how can I flash CWM with this kernel, LPM Stock 4.0.3?
anticipated thanks
Did you take a look here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877270
Btw, rooting/customizing/flashing etc. may always lead to a hard brick.
Yes I'm reading there, but my question is if flashing PhilZ-cwm6 is safe
and, if after that, Can I flash another ROM, like Omega_ICS_v15.1_Black_Blue_XWLPG
Thankyou for your answer
MuayThaiFighter8 said:
Did you take a look here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877270
Btw, rooting/customizing/flashing etc. may always lead to a hard brick.
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Raugote said:
Yes I'm reading there, but my question is if flashing PhilZ-cwm6 is safe
and, if after that, Can I flash another ROM, like Omega_ICS_v15.1_Black_Blue_XWLPG
Thankyou for your answer
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Yep, you can flash Omega (or a custom kernel) afterwards because PhilZ's method will install ClockworkMod recovery on your S2.
Just make to sure to read every installation step. LPM is on the list.
MuayThaiFighter8 said:
Yep, you can flash Omega (or a custom kernel) afterwards because PhilZ's method will install ClockworkMod recovery on your S2.
Just make to sure to read every installation step. LPM is on the list.
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Thanks a lot, I'm going to try that
very helpful
Philz CWM worked like a charm, now to make backup and Install ROM

[Q] Need help for Rooting

Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
:angel:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
root
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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hallo im also new to rooting but flashed cm10.1 yesterday with root and can share what i did.
i also got i9300 nordic version of the s3. and downloaded some files
odin 3.07
cfroot 3.64
cm10.1
gapps from 03-2013
i resettet my phone and enabled USB debugging and put the phone in download mode and startet up odin and made sure its connected and loaded cfroot.tar and flashed and the phone rebootet itself and installed the ness. apps for rooting. then i bootet up in recovery manager and went to install from sdcard and installed cm10.1 and then gapps and then did factory reset and dalvik wipe and rebootet and it bootet up CM10.1 and deleted /0 folder on the phone which was empty folder from previous touchwiz samsung rom
and yes there are risks but i did this 2 times. tw to cm10 and then back again but everything went problem free. so the risk ppl are talking about is mostly likely cuz some broke and if u mess up it breaks. so it can happen.
q1; when u flash cfroot the bootloader changed and it changes counter from 0 to 1.
q2: when u flash stock back with odin it flashes rom and bootloader/recovery but counter is the same but can be fixed easily. ( did it myself between my 2 flashes so when i flashed back to CM10 it still was on 1
q3: i think its everything thats risky. dont think root and rom flashing are more risky than others
q4: dont know what u mean exactly. i didnt mess with kernals. CM10.1 has a good one i think.
q5: dont either
q6: i dont have any yelly triagle on my cfroot+cm10.1. theres a lille read thing in the left corner like 2mm long that shows u got flashed.
hope it helps.
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
TimGrundy2012 said:
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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Unless you have 4.1.1 + bootloader.
mikep99 said:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
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Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
eatsleep said:
Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
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For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Any flashing involves risk from almost no risk to a much bigger risk for those that dont read the basics and follow instructions .
Root voids warranty .
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
yes and yes .
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
NO read the basic faqs and guides all stickied .
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
YES
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
IT is inside the rom .
I suggest you bother to read the faqs and guides or join the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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1. You can flash boooader separately or when you flash stock roms. (I can be wrong but this is what I know)
2. I never done that but yes for first two, not sure about flash counter, you may still have to clear them with TA first.
3. As above answer, it's always risky to do stuff without proper knowledge and no guarantees even after proper knowledge but mostly no.
4. Yes.
5. Kernels are essential part of your phone and they are compatible with your os version only and also ur phone model. So if a kernel is for s3 4.2.2, you can't flash it over to amy other model or os version. Yes for second part.
6. No. Triangle away may remove your flashing counter but as long as you have custom anything and your rom status is modified that triangle will be there.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
chrismast said:
For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
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look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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Siyah supports both cm and stock. Yes, you cam flash cm over stock or siyah kernel.
You have to flash your kernel again after every rom flash.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
chrismast said:
As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
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Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
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bootloader no clue, I never touched it, too dangerous to mess up stuff.
for flashing googy, usually you do it in CWM or via Odin. Check out the thread and read the instructions. Syiah's thread also got a huge amount of guides in the first couple of posts and they should be valid somehow for Googy as well as it is based on Siyah.
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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Please do not start messing with bootloaders .
Logic says read the instructions for the kernel you want to flash .
Its a CWM file and flashed via recovery .
You really should bother yourself to read the basic faqs and guide .
jje
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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The bootloader isn't modified. The bootloader *shows* modified by reading other data.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

[Q] Installed wrong kernel

As the title says, I installed the wrong kernel when trying to root my phone... and now my phone wont boot
unfortunatly I don't know which kernel version I originally had so I'm a little worried that I'll have to spend all night trying every possible kernel version until it boots...
Can anyone suggest an easier way? is there a universal kernel that will get me at least to the menu section?
thanks for looking guys
Can you boot into Download mode? If so, which Android version are you on right now?
Yeah I can boot into download mode and I'm running version 4.1.2
I'm downloading I9100XWLSD_I9100MOBLSC_MOB.zip which I think is the original ROM and I'm hoping it comes with the original kernel as well...
I should just flash them both with odin right?
EDIT: download finished and I'm a little confused, there's 2 files within it
I9100XWLSD_I9100MOBLSC_I9100BULS1_HOME.tar.md5 and SS_DL.dll
I really have no idea what to do with these... do I remove the .md5 extension and unzip the .tar? help :S
booboob31 said:
Yeah I can boot into download mode and I'm running version 4.1.2
I'm downloading I9100XWLSD_I9100MOBLSC_MOB.zip which I think is the original ROM and I'm hoping it comes with the original kernel as well...
I should just flash them both with odin right?
EDIT: download finished and I'm a little confused, there's 2 files within it
I9100XWLSD_I9100MOBLSC_I9100BULS1_HOME.tar.md5 and SS_DL.dll
I really have no idea what to do with these... do I remove the .md5 extension and unzip the .tar? help :S
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Yup, that should set things right.
BTW, which kernel did you flash?
immortalneo said:
Yup, that should set things right.
BTW, which kernel did you flash?
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It was XWKDD_insecure.tar
booboob31 said:
It was XWKDD_insecure.tar
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If you're interested in a little tinkering, you could try flashing Siyah v6 beta 5 kernel via odin, and see if your phone boots up. Siyah v6 supports JB 4.1.2, and it will replace your current kernel. So, theoretically, your phone should boot back up.
Maybe it was already clear, but just flash the Siyah kernel first, before you try flashing a whole rom. Flashing Siyah might solve the whole problem, and you will have root access afterwards.
Donnie Sins said:
Maybe it was already clear, but just flash the Siyah kernel first, before you try flashing a whole rom. Flashing Siyah might solve the whole problem, and you will have root access afterwards.
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Yeah that's what I did Donnie and it worked a charm, thanks to both you and immortalneo. :highfive:
Just to confirm I can go ahead and install any rom now without fear of the "superbrick" bug? or would I still need to source an insecure kernel first?
Thanks again, it's a load off my mind
booboob31 said:
Yeah that's what I did Donnie and it worked a charm, thanks to both you and immortalneo. :highfive:
Just to confirm I can go ahead and install any rom now without fear of the "superbrick" bug? or would I still need to source an insecure kernel first?
Thanks again, it's a load off my mind
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No problem, good for you.
This brickbug can only appear in stock 4.0.4 recovery, so you are safe.
You can try to flash other kernels (.zip files) as well through CWM. But pay attention that you search for the right ones, that are made for your device and your Android version.

Custom Recovery or How to make nandroid backup for stock XXMS7 Jellybean rooted

I searched a lot but nothing found. On Gingerbread I had no problems. Now on Jellbean there is a problem. CWM gives bootloop and PhilZ kernels are for specified roms, which actually don't match my kernel XXMS7 XEO. Is there any other way to make nandroid backup or just through custom recovery? I don't need any other functionality just full backup in case I screw something or occasionally refresh everything with all set up.
blackfire74 said:
I searched a lot but nothing found. On Gingerbread I had no problems. Now on Jellbean there is a problem. CWM gives bootloop and PhilZ kernels are for specified roms, which actually don't match my kernel XXMS7 XEO. Is there any other way to make nandroid backup or just through custom recovery? I don't need any other functionality just full backup in case I screw something or occasionally refresh everything with all set up.
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Did you try dorimanx by GreekDragon or Chhapil?
And I think that you may flash latest Philz kernel cause I did it and had no problem.... But try using dorimanx and also there's another option... Apolo by pedestre....
PS this is a development thread... Questions must be asked in question answer forum
JB Kernels
Here's the link to the kernels I use for my S2
Apolo Kernel - Here (Thread here)
Dorimanx by @GreekDragon Here (Thread Here)
Philz XWMS3 Kernel Here
How about Jeboo kernel? Are these three kernels above match XXMS7 rom?
blackfire74 said:
How about Jeboo kernel? Are these three kernels above match XXMS7 rom?
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As per what I know, if you're on Stock Jellybean GT I9100 then they should work... I've not used jeboo and hence don't have idea about it
There is no way i can experiment. I just need to know what will exactly work with my firmware as i can't loose anything set up on my phone. So, i need working kernel, custom recovery and be able to make a nandroid backup without any risk of bootloop or whatever, then i may experiment.
blackfire74 said:
There is no way i can experiment. I just need to know what will exactly work with my firmware as i can't loose anything set up on my phone. So, i need working kernel, custom recovery and be able to make a nandroid backup without any risk of bootloop or whatever, then i may experiment.
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If you have already rooted then use titaniumbackup to backup your apps and data....additionally you can use third party apps like superbackup to backup contacts call logs and sms...then you should have your important stuffs backed up....then flash Apolo kernel...you should be done....
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