Right here is the issue. I've changed this thread twice now to keep the clutter away. Seeing I can't unlock my bootloader due to it being a 3 mobile bootloader (If I can please help me out as im struggling to find info) I can't flash CM9? Or even 10 for that matter? This is really frustrating me, I don't have a clue what to do, a lot of the information on bootloaders like mine is very bare and slim and not really helping me or anyone else in my position out very much. I can't root either which is as big a ***** as the bootloader situation....can someone point me in the right direction or just plain tell me nothing that I want is possible?
Further more, roms don't contain bootloaders do they? It's the phone itself? However, saying this, it is possible to flash bootloaders on the motorola defy....would the case not be the same here?
If your bootloader is unlockable then you can not flash custom roms, ie cm9 or cm10.
However you can flash stock roms via flashtool and you can root with a locked bootloader, there are a couple of threads which tell you how to root, here's one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
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Right here is the issue. I've changed this thread twice now to keep the clutter away. Seeing I can't unlock my bootloader due to it being a 3 mobile bootloader (If I can please help me out as im struggling to find info) I can't flash CM9? Or even 10 for that matter? This is really frustrating me, I don't have a clue what to do, a lot of the information on bootloaders like mine is very bare and slim and not really helping me or anyone else in my position out very much. I can't root either which is as big a ***** as the bootloader situation....can someone point me in the right direction or just plain tell me nothing that I want is possible?
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I am also with Three and have a locked BL, but using the guides found in these forums I managed to Root my device and even install MIUI yesterday, but MIUI is not great in my personal opinion so I reverted back to ICS.
There are not many ROMs out there for those of us with Locked BL's and until they find a way to get passed the BL or make more ROMs for us, we are limited to Stock ROMs and as far as I am aware not many of those exist besides MIUI.
Cheers lads! I'm just wondering now if we could take a leaf out of the Motorola Defy's development books. As I said, even with a locked bootloader they were using cm9 and even cm10 now! Unstable due to the old kernels, but still, managed it
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Cheers lads! I'm just wondering now if we could take a leaf out of the Motorola Defy's development books. As I said, even with a locked bootloader they were using cm9 and even cm10 now! Unstable due to the old kernels, but still, managed it
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All we can do is hope my friend, seems Sony were slow in every regard to develop for this phone and that in turn has limited the progress of external developers, I mean just look at the amount of time it has taken Sony to get ICS out to us and that has impacted others in development.
We are now seeing the FreeXperia Project rolling out builds, though they remain solely for Unlocked BL's, MIUI is a step in the right direction for us, so I see no reason why others for Locked BL's will not appear in due course. Patience is the game when it comes to the Xperia S.
By the way, I have read from a few people that getting the SIM Lock removed does in some instances lead to BL Unlocking ability, I contacted Three and they told me the charge for unlocking the SIM from them via a code is £15 and I believe it gets applied to your bill as a one off fee if you want to try it and see in the service menu if your BL after a reboot shows the ability to be unlocked.
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All we can do is hope my friend, seems Sony were slow in every regard to develop for this phone and that in turn has limited the progress of external developers, I mean just look at the amount of time it has taken Sony to get ICS out to us and that has impacted others in development.
We are now seeing the FreeXperia Project rolling out builds, though they remain solely for Unlocked BL's, MIUI is a step in the right direction for us, so I see no reason why others for Locked BL's will not appear in due course. Patience is the game when it comes to the Xperia S.
By the way, I have read from a few people that getting the SIM Lock removed does in some instances lead to BL Unlocking ability, I contacted Three and they told me the charge for unlocking the SIM from them via a code is £15 and I believe it gets applied to your bill as a one off fee if you want to try it and see in the service menu if your BL after a reboot shows the ability to be unlocked.
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I'm with 3 as well and the first thing I did was to have my xperia s sim unlocked.
This did not unlock the bootloader as I was hoping
Having said that I was able to root the thing using the tutorials in these forums, so I'm pretty happy
Have to say the stock ROM looks quite good and I'd try some other ROMs just for the sake of it
I would try and sim unlock the phone if my bill wasnt horrendous already, they charged me for twitter sending texts to me haha! So sad. But back to the topic, I was just floating around the Motorola Defy forum again and they somehow extracted the bootloader seperately to try and unlock it! I really hope someone looks in to this would be so helpful if someone could extract their own, unlocked BL and we could flash it! ;o
I maybe barking up the wrong tree here but when i had my X10 and was in associated forum. The bootloader was locked and root was difficult.
Some of the devs were in contact with Sony to try and come to some compromise on the security. ( hence un-branded phones now having unlocked boot loaders)
The trouble is...
On branded handsets the bootloaders contain certain information that your network providers don't want you to have access to.
The devs are aware of this and respectively leave the bootloader compromising alone.
This is not saying it can't be done, just saying that out of respect for sony allowing some phones to have unlocked bootloaders those that are locked are being treated to the respect sony asked for.
Of course not all devs worldwide are so respectful so it will be compromised and indeed has been but currently only for sim unlocking.
Of course this post may just be a crock-o-crap and people may already working on workarounds.???
I would guess that for bootloader unlocking your best bet would be a phone unlocking solution like setool or ezsemc but these are not going to be free options and currently not available on the XPS
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Why i did'nt see anyone flashing the relock bootloader on a locked one. My common sense tells me that it might go from allowed=no to allowed=yes.
And you dont need fastboot access to flash it only flashmode and is tft file, just wondering..
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Why i did'nt see anyone flashing the relock bootloader on a locked one. My common sense tells me that it might go from allowed=no to allowed=yes.
And you dont need fastboot access to flash it only flashmode and is tft file, just wondering..
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It just won't let you flash.
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It just won't let you flash.
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Even if you have root?
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Even if you have root?
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Yes.
Contact jinx13 he can unlock bootloader for you I am sure, I am on three UK with unlocked boot , phone was unlocked and I am sure jinx13 can do it with setool
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Is that a cost free service from him though?
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Is that a cost free service from him though?
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Cost he does it remotely
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Cost he does it remotely
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Okay mate. Thanks a bunch. I'll get in contact with him and see what he has to offer.
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Why were they able to root and unlock the boot loader and everything else on the thunderbolt so quickly but yet no one can do it on the atrix?
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Sorry, I don't know.
Because it's not locked or signed?
There's seems to be some discussion regarding it being locked or not. Engadget wrote an article about it being locked but there are a lot of comments from readers with evidence to the contrary.
With it being broken so fast, I believe it wasn't locked or signed.
Um. The phone is not unlocked. In fact the devs were in for a surprise to see the phone has signed bootloader. Signed karnel. Everything is sihned. Which is a furst for htc phone . The only thing they managed to do is root it. And they already did with the atrix. Once you have a signed bootloader and karnel. There is not much you can do.
The article was posted new today or yesterday at engadget. And nothing happened since then.
Its safe to assume all companies right now will use a locked bootloader and karnel. They dont want you to keep your phone. They want you to update.
So basically unless an employee leaks the codes we are s o l.that really sux.
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Android police is reporting that the Bootloader has been unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
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Yea I'm in the same boat, I might just go back to my captivate in the next week. I really like this phone but I don't feel like much progress is being made. I know there are a few busting ass trying to crack this thing but that doesn't necessaraly mean theyre making progress. Although they did get a copy of that unlocked/deencrypted phone from ken so maybe we'll see something soon.
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most android hackers are on verizon, because they went in with android first. the least amount of android hackers are on at&t. also, they had better resources, they were leaked a beta bootloader that was unlocked, and also a previous ruu image (like sbf but for htc)
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Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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I don't know the true reason, but historically, HTC phones are more "open" and "hackable" than Motorola phones (excluding the original Droid). It's just a different company policy more than likely. Is this policy different with the Thunderbolt? I'm not sure...
there is a definitive difference between 'Locked' and 'Encrypted'
I am about to upgrade my phone, and Im eyeing the Play, however, will the bootloader be unlockable(or bypassable) on the Verizon variant? Since I got a DROID2, that's a must have feature. Any help would be thanked greatly.
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I am about to upgrade my phone, and Im eyeing the Play, however, will the bootloader be unlockable(or bypassable) on the Verizon variant? Since I got a DROID2, that's a must have feature. Any help would be thanked greatly.
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Unlock is not possible yet on CDMA Xperia phones. It's currently being investigated, and hopefully solution will come soon
Well, is root and flashing roms similarly to the Droid2/X/X2 possible?
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Nothing of the sort is possible but everything is being worked on.. We are all waiting.
Yes. Its possible. The difference will just be whether we find people willing to do the work. If all dev work stopped now, the process would go like this: wait for new root exploit, root phone, use second init process to boot cm7.... Just like the d2 and dx
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http://androidflip.com/root-sony-xperia-play/
fastboot drivers work on R800x, but unlocking bootloader on verizon is not possible yet.. Even SE cant help, i call shannanagins on you VW!!
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http://androidflip.com/root-sony-xperia-play/
fastboot drivers work on R800x, but unlocking bootloader on verizon is not possible yet.. Even SE cant help, i call shannanagins on you VW!!
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People are trying to work on getting the bootloader unlocked, despite SonyEricsson not willing to give any help to the CDMA variant folks (R800x). The document you pointed gives pretty much the universal variant of how to unlock and root for all of the R800 series _EXCEPT R800x_ (which is what Verizon carries). Since you can't unlock the bootloader, you can't currently flash a new/different ROM.
So for now, people are working on it, albeit slowly. Don't expect a unlock/root method in the next day, but it will happen eventually. I know I'm eagerly awaiting it.
I'll work on that too when I get the phone.
I believe Verizon's phones aren't unlockable because Verizon wants total SW control over device.
I'm patiently waiting as well.
I need a GSM TA backup to attempt to flash to a r800x that in order to investigate a potential unlock capability this might have. The requirements of the TA are thus:
Phone must be currently bootloader locked
Phone must be unlockable through official Ericsson methods
Probably looking for r800i or r800a TA files here
Basically I'm just looking for a TA from a GSM play that can be unlocked through the official site, but currently is not. Thanks so much!
Before unlocking my bootloaders (R800i here), I made a TA backup. Expect a PM
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Before unlocking my bootloaders (R800i here), I made a TA backup. Expect a PM
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You, sir, are awesome. I'll do what I need to do and post back some results tonight. These are the steps I'm going to take:
Flash your TA against my CDMA phone.
Use omnius to identify the phone and get the IMEI (which should be yours now).
Attempt to unlock the bootloader using your IMEI.
Reflash the CDMA TA file.
Hope for the best!
Anything to help.
Good luck (fingers crossed)
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Good luck (fingers crossed)
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I second that.
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You, sir, are awesome. I'll do what I need to do and post back some results tonight. These are the steps I'm going to take:
Flash your TA against my CDMA phone.
Use omnius to identify the phone and get the IMEI (which should be yours now).
Attempt to unlock the bootloader using your IMEI.
Reflash the CDMA TA file.
Hope for the best!
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Looks promising. Hope all goes well for you.
any luck? us r800x-ers are dying here
Excited to hopefully here some good news
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And the update you all were waiting for.......
and....
Brick.
The flash was successful. No errors in Omnius, but the phone is now completely unresponsive. No bootloader light, no flashing light. Absolute brick.
So... here's to calling Verizon for a replacement! Wish me luck with that!
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And the update you all were waiting for.......
and....
Brick.
The flash was successful. No errors in Omnius, but the phone is now completely unresponsive. No bootloader light, no flashing light. Absolute brick.
So... here's to calling Verizon for a replacement! Wish me luck with that!
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That sucks. Good effort, and thank you for trying. Let us know how the replacement call goes.
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And the update you all were waiting for.......
and....
Brick.
The flash was successful. No errors in Omnius, but the phone is now completely unresponsive. No bootloader light, no flashing light. Absolute brick.
So... here's to calling Verizon for a replacement! Wish me luck with that!
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I'm awfully sorry
yikes, i was afraid of that...hopefully you can get it replaced without much difficulty, either way thanks for taking one for the team
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thanks a lot for trying... looks like i'll have to live one more month without play... but i'll try to keep kernel development, and help in freexperia project... and i'll work on this too...
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Mills...thanks for your efforts!
No problem guys!
Replacement is on its way, but I'll have to wait till Thursday. Until then, you'll see me frequenting the Eris forum... lol. Yay for backups.
So at least this tells us some important things about the process. It appears that at least one major level, the hardware is not the same between the GSM and CDMA variants.
I still think we got this though. It's only a matter of time before a new root exploit breaks through or Blagus comes up with a way to tell the bootloader it's unlocked without having to actually give in a key.
Blagus, you're trying to unlock the bootloader... but isn't it contrary to what Bin4ry said is your policy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15253598&postcount=217
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Blagus, you're trying to unlock the bootloader... but isn't it contrary to what Bin4ry said is your policy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15253598&postcount=217
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i know... but a small internal test isn't bad... and a share of unique TA file to a user or two (meaning it's useless to others)... but i believe more and more that it'll never even happen since it's all hashed, and a key which purpose is unknown, in security zone... (probably bl key hash)
i understand that SE would be pissed off, and some freexperia members could get in trouble... if theory proves to be true i'll try my best, but cdma phones seem to be different. not accepting gsm radio files, brick after writing GSM TA... plus, probably losing cdma after unlock fix, and verizon users are under contract, right?
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I personally don't think that SE would be pissed about the community circumventing the security on the CDMA Xperia because I think they they truly wanted to embrace the open community. I think that if there is a reason behind why we don't have an official unlock solution yet, it's because Verizon wants to keep it as locked down as possible. I mean what does Ericsson have to lose? Nothing. In fact they only stand to gain sales from the users like me who only purchased this device because of the prospect of a first party unlock solution. Sony has their hands tied. Verizon thinks they have a lot to lose (the warranty and trouble shooting issues, the tethering, etc.).
Its unfortunate but the sad truth is that we will more than likely have to wait for another root exploit to drop and then use the second init method that the milestones and droidx's are using to boot CM7 currently. That will be our saving grace and the only reason to keep the device.
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And the update you all were waiting for.......
and....
Brick.
The flash was successful. No errors in Omnius, but the phone is now completely unresponsive. No bootloader light, no flashing light. Absolute brick.
So... here's to calling Verizon for a replacement! Wish me luck with that!
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Sorry to hear it didn't go so well.
After you recovered the TA from the GSM back up. Did the phone reboot if not were you able to run Identify against the new TA to see if a IMEI was populated?
Alright, I'm tired of this bootloader crap! I need anyone and everyone interested in helping me get this MoPho'in bootloader unlocked on 2.3.5!
We have WAY to many people stuck on GB (after Moto said we'd have ICS ) on this beast of a phone!
Before anyone asks, YES i have the skills to do this, just not enough to do it quickly.
With that said I do bring some skills to the table.
I can program in the Android language and port just about anything anyone can come up with.
I know my tech (to put it short)
Please anyone with the same feeling as me, come help me out in ANY way possible. Even if it's just testing. I would greatly appreciate it!
Please people!
I am not a dev. But I would be glad to help. As a suggestion, Perhaps we could start by finding a solution for unlocking mophos that were factory shipped with 2.35 such as is done with the electrify. It could provide a lot of insight.
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Awesome. I need time to check out the electrify system. I'll post my findings soon
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im not a dev either but if there's anything you need that i can help out with let me know.
Hmm well I learned that sprint was a big reason the BL got locked. The Electrify sbf (Yes i flashed it) is unlockable easily however my radios dont work so i cant have that. I did find some cool things inside the System partition. I rooted it up and got a file browser (ES). The blocks where the BL is has a special file called infooemenc.encf assuming this has to do with our "fastboot oem unlock" command problem. That file however was a fluke. My phone soft reset itself (doesnt like the Electrify rom) and POOF gone... Very suspicious. i had to relock to go back to photon state though
Add me to the crew. I'm happy to help as a dev, or otherwise if we need something else.
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Add me to the crew. I'm happy to help as a dev, or otherwise if we need something else.
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Sweet! The crew is growing! We may be able to get this done!
Could anyone try and help me find the 2.3.5 254_13 sunfire (Sprint) Sbf file i wanna compare the soak to the Electrify unlockable
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Perhaps we could start by finding a solution for unlocking mophos that were factory shipped with 2.35 such as is done with the electrify. It could provide a lot of insight.
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What's funny is that point exactly. We can unlock factory shipped electrifys and ones with the right sbf
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Hmm well I learned that sprint was a big reason the BL got locked. The Electrify sbf (Yes i flashed it) is unlockable easily however my radios dont work so i cant have that. I did find some cool things inside the System partition. I rooted it up and got a file browser (ES). The blocks where the BL is has a special file called infooemenc.encf assuming this has to do with our "fastboot oem unlock" command problem. That file however was a fluke. My phone soft reset itself (doesnt like the Electrify rom) and POOF gone... Very suspicious. i had to relock to go back to photon state though
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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Yes I know but there was a slight difference in the 2.3.5 factory Electrify that somehow caused an exploit (when i said it was easy i meant it was for me)
But still on the current matter we want this BL unlocked and there HAS to be a way! That's why people are joining up. They wanna be out of the hole Moto decided to throw us into. (After lying about ICS)
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Could anyone try and help me find the 2.3.5 254_13 sunfire (Sprint) Sbf file i wanna compare the soak to the Electrify unlockable
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Looking, but also found this along the away:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/photon4g.motorola/files/PHOTON-4G/4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13/
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Looking, but also fund this along the away:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/photon4g.motorola/files/PHOTON-4G/4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13/
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This is the Sprint version?! :victory::fingers-crossed:
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wait what?
you do realize the same phone shipped months earlier on a different carrier and was locked? (and then was released later too).
moto's first device to offer unlocking services was a sprint device. rather than jumping on teh locked samsung bandwagon they are still one of teh few companies that have most of their devices unlockable. as well as their tech support doesnt care if you are rooted as if its a software issue they are going to flash stock.
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Oh and also i just dont like how Moto and Sprint are just so mean to us :crying:
No, just files they had to supply as open source.
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No, just files they had to supply as open source.
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Dang I wanna get the full sbf lemme see what files they got here...
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I spy with my little eye a kernel file hehehe wonder what we might do with that??
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Is this the rom you are looking for?
Is this the rom you are looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30332325
To devs:
Instead of trying to find a way to crack the boot loader why can we make a boot able sdcard that works around the bootloader? Like for the nooks the bootloader is still locked but we can run custom ROMs off the sdcard without any problems.. Just a thought..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063968
Subscribed, glad to see some new action around here.
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hello. sorry for the question but can somebody tell if anyone is working on unlocking the bootloader in devices with the status "unlock bootloader allowed:no"?
thanks
Impossible, if your boot loader comes locked there isn't anything you can do to unlock it. Best to sell it and buy one unlockable.
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i know today it is impossible, has it was in my first android phone the xperia x10. what im asking if anyone is working on that or at least installing custom rooted roms with the locked bootloader...
thanks
As far as I am aware, no one will be able to unlock the bootloader ever. No one has managed it since 2011 as they're locked down tighter than....well you know.
However, people have previously found an exploit for root. That allows you to install custom roms, xposed etc but does not allow custom kernels (not a huge problem in my eyes, I've always found kernels to be slightly beneficial but also buggy if you're not an expert)
There's people working on it, but as of yet had no luck. I'm in the same boat as you, so guess it's just a waiting game.
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