Well, its about that time! I need a new desktop computer and i kinda want to build it myself, but since its primary function is going to be development i thought i should seek some advise from the best place i know of (and i have never built my own before) ! I am a computer science and engineering major at OSU majoring specifically in software development (ultimately want to work at Google if i ever get the opportunity, doing my best to try and set myself up for it) . I am still really early in my studies so i am not sure the best equipment to get.
That being said i am looking for some advise! I have about a $1500 budget to build my dream machine (including monitor and accessories)
1. what would you build and why?
2. what hardware/features would you include and why?
3. how would you have it set up and why?
4. if you feel so inclined build your dream machine and tell me why you chose what you chose?
If this thread is out of place i apologize but its primary use is going to be development (mostly android) with a lil bit of school and gaming in on the side. Considering its primary function, i figured this community would be the best place to ask for advise
Thanks everyone!
makes me sad that no one responded to this... i was really looking forward to a little actual developers advise on the new system.... oh well
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You are asking the wrong question.
A developer machine need no performance whatsoever. A large screen and a really good keyboard (mechanical, expensive, but better than sex), and you'll be happy forever. The only stuff you'll need performance for is the gaming, and this is the wrong forum for that question.
kuisma said:
You are asking the wrong question.
A developer machine need no performance whatsoever. A large screen and a really good keyboard (mechanical, expensive, but better than sex), and you'll be happy forever. The only stuff you'll need performance for is the gaming, and this is the wrong forum for that question.
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Thats not right, imho. I am deving in Java and C, C# and more other languages for many years now and I agree that you need much space to raise your productivity, but I would advice you to get at least 8GB RAM. Exspecially when you are programming you will open many programs at a time, and this may be too much for computers with lower RAM (I speak from experience, I got 3GB)
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To answer your questions:
1. I would build a computer that runs both Windows 7 (Pro 64 bit) and Ubuntu Linux (11.10 64 bit for now because this will be used Android development, and 12.04 LTS has a lot of problems still left to be worked out regarding Android development). I would use Windows 7 to maximize program compatibility (Some programs used for Android development only run on windows) and because you said you wanted to play some games.
2. Hardware wise I would include a 23" 1080p Asus monitor that is great performance for the money, along with a Razar DeathAdder mouse and Razar BlackWidow keyboard both are high quality and the keyboard is mechanical meaning it should be a pleasure to use and last a long time.
3. Similar to my answer to question 1 I would have it set up to dual boot Windows 7 Pro 64 bit and Ubuntu Linux 11.10 64 bit, to maximize program compatibility while allowing you to easily compile Android from source code and do Android development best suited to Linux.
4. What I would build for the money:
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CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M LE Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($97.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 800W ATX12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Battlefield 3 Edition Wired Gaming Keyboard ($144.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($64.98 @ Newegg)
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The configuration focus's on a solid development platform (16GB RAM, Core i5 2500K), while allowing you to install Ubuntu on one of the 1.5TB hard drives and Windows 7 on the other 1.5TB hard drive. The Radeon HD 6870 should be perfect for when you want to game, and don't be fooled by the Cooler Master Case's price it is a very nice case for the money. The 800W Corsair power-supply should be more then enough power for this setup and should allow you to add another GPU in the future if you wanted to. Hopefully this will guide you in the right direction.
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I just ordered a new desktop for development, and went specifically for computing power, memory and hard drive space (those sources and temporary files are huge). On the other hand I didn't want to spend too much money, so I ordered an Intel i5 3570K with 8 GB memory and a SSD for the operating system and whatnot. As for the rest I'll use the parts from my old desktop.
Only thing I'm worried about is wether the PSU works and if Intel HD4000 graphics are supported in GNU/Linux (I didn't buy a GPU ).
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Thats not right, imho. I am deving in Java and C, C# and more other languages for many years now and I agree that you need much space to raise your productivity, but I would advice you to get at least 8GB RAM. Exspecially when you are programming you will open many programs at a time, and this may be too much for computers with lower RAM (I speak from experience, I got 3GB)
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Slow with 3GB? You must be running Windows!
But yes, you are of course right. Memory is good, and today it's so cheep, there's no point in anything less than 8GB. If running lots of bloated tools such as fancy IDEs, using virtualization for your test environments etc, it will consume memory. Still, compared with a gaming rig, the requirements for development are very modest - most of the time developing is about writing code, and then Notepad will be sufficient, but maybe not optimal. My own development machine is the one machine I most infrequent replace/upgrade, because I'm lazy and values not having to do that extra work more than the extra performance I don't need. But I'm also old school, writing most of my code in emacs, compiling command line using make etc.
rlmaers said:
I just ordered a new desktop for development, and went specifically for computing power, memory and hard drive space (those sources and temporary files are huge). On the other hand I didn't want to spend too much money, so I ordered an Intel i5 3570K with 8 GB memory and a SSD for the operating system and whatnot. As for the rest I'll use the parts from my old desktop.
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I believe an SSD is the best spent money regarding the bang per bucks ratio, and if it's something development will benefit of, it's good I/O performance. But it must be your work disk of course, not only the operating system, unless it's only the boot time you want to accelerate. It also makes the machine more silent.
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I believe an SSD is the best spent money regarding the bang per bucks ratio, and if it's something development will benefit of, it's good I/O performance. But it must be your working disk of course, not only the operating system, unless it's only the boot time you want to accelerate. It also makes the machine more silent.
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Thanks for the feedback. Too bad I didn't order a bigger SSD, but with 60GB I should still have enough room for /, /home and /temp and place all my miscellaneous files on regular drives. Might get a bit cramped, but I reckon it should work if my memory serves me right and things haven't changed too much in the years of my absence from a desktop computer.
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http://liliputing.com/2011/01/microsoft-next-gen-windows-will-run-on-arm.html
I saw this on some of the CES report too.
I use Windows 7 and enjoy it greatly. But I don't see it as being a tablet operating system. (I actually did use it with a touch/stylus laptop a while.)
But I use my tablets differently. And I won't be using them to do MS Office Work either (except maybe to read/preview.)
I don't know why Microsoft can't figure out that we use different machines for different purposes.
Rev
P. S. -- I didn't write this well -- but I think most power users will get what I'm talking about. One device won't do all things for all people -- not even those made by the fruity folks!
Actually Windows CE was the only real mainstream platform almost 10 years ago on PDAs, like the Casio Cassiopeia. Touch screen, windows support for documents, etc. I could see this on a tablet, it wouldn't be a first. What I find most interesting is how Microsoft sat on their tech back then and let everyone walk around them on mobile devices in under 10 years.
In fact, I still have a working version of the Casio, overclocked and all. I should dig it out, it was a nice little device in its time.
Wtf would you want Windows on your gTab? You're not going to be running the vast majority of software on it...
I'd bet it's for the arm based netbooks
There is absolutely no vesion of windows that would ever work on a tablet device in the way that Apple Os4 for ipad and upcoming honeycomb are designed to work
Tablets are going to replace 50% of the netbook market (for the people who want something even lighter and do not do office type intensive tasks on their net books) and probably result in 1/3rd of the smart phone users abandoning their smart phones in favor of using a tablet (lower data plan, larger screen, faster processors...portable enough to keep with you tucked away some where when a lap top was too heavy). With wi fi springing up nearly EVERYWHERE, there wont even be a need for a month plan/3g/4g set up for 75% of users.
This is going to be a huge market.
Here is how i see it going.
The Google/tablet market is going to dominate in the same way as the Windows/PC market did through the 90s and 00s for the computer.
Apple with its walled garden approach will lose most of its gains in the tablet market and wind up basically in the same market share position it did when going against MS/PC on the computer front.
MS is going to keep pushing its "frankenstein" tablet approach trying to cram a windows OS that is NOT optimized nor designed from the ground up for tablets until it becomes AT BEST the PS3 of tablets (very powerful..the most expensive, with less support, less market share, and really having largly unused features and applications compared to the android).
To continue that analogy, Droid will wind up beig the "xbox" of tablets, while apple will be come the "wii" of tablets and (MS will become the "ps3" of tablets).
Going back to the PC analogy. Droid will become the microsft of tablets, apple will remain....well apple, while microsoft ends up in the category largely reserved for corporate/industrial/server users.
I think you all missed the "next Gen" part, I.e., they're not talking about an existing version of Windows on ARM, so we don't really know what that would look like yet.
Jim
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I think you all missed the "next Gen" part, I.e., they're not talking about an existing version of Windows on ARM, so we don't really know what that would look like yet.
Jim
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"Next generation" in Microsoft speak means "larger, more bloated, slightly more functional than last generation" or at least that has been the case with EVERY SINGLE iteration of MS releases since 1993 when i had a win 3.1 pc ( with the possible exception of win 7 which is basically win vista on a diet with less bugs made more user friendly.
Heck the entire REASON for win64 was to increase the amount of Ram windows can use ( my desk top now runs w 8Gigs of ram).
Win CE win moble never came close to whar ipad os4 is or what i believe honeycomb to be. The upcoming win7 tablets look to repeat history.
I am not saying you are wrong about win8, but if you are right, it would represent a fundamental change in the MS paradigm. SOMETHING i dont believe has ever happened since they ripped off apple os after they ripped off xerox.
MS has stated that Windows 8 will be their biggest gamble yet, supposedly with a more apple like experience.
I see no reason why Windows 8 wouldn't work on the G-Tab.
Microsoft demoed it on a 3 year old laptop last month and aside from a few minor bugs, it worked very smooth.
It will also offer multiple interface options such as a Windows 7 phone like interface as well as a standard windows interface so that could also be very handy if they can pull it off properly.
They also promised ARM process or support and with the dual core processor in the G-Tab (mine currently running at 1.5 ghz) I think I would find it quite handy to be able to run some Windows apps while on the road somewhere.
I'm quite confident we will see a port of Windows 8 for the G-Tab, though I hope they're also able to support dual booting so I'm not stuck with just one OS option.
It seems pretty optimistic of Microsoft to think they can pull all of this off but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt just for trying.
Just my two cents.
-Maj
I'm with Maj, but thee thing is will they make a ARM version of thee OS
A link you might find interesting: http://forums.legitreviews.com/about36766.html
More recent news article:http://rcpmag.com/articles/2011/09/20/analysis-will-windows-8-support-x86-apps-or-wont-it.aspx
Im not a windows fan. I don't want to see another crummy version of windows especially on a tablet. I would rather see droid os on a laptop and oust windows altogether.
I like Windows 7 on my desktop, I have XP and Ubuntu dual-booting on my laptop, and Gingerbread on my Atrix and Gtab.
MS does need to realize that our different devices are used for different purposes and need to be configured and run differently for that. I do not believe they can make it all happen with one OS. You would need such disparate branches that they would essentially be different OSs.
U might be right. I know someone was saying that windowsce 7 was or might be similar since windows 8 is geared from window mobile phone 7
With only 512Mb it will run like a dog, even ice cream sandwich needs more then 512m to run smooth from what I read. Now that the new Nvidia chip being 7 times faster according to Apple, most tablet will be under power to run the new crops of OS IMO.
Way off base on Windows and it's role in our computing lives, and especially off base on what Microsoft can and cannot do. I have many complaints about Microsoft but they are FAR more advanced in mobile than they ever get credit for.
Apple took an iPod OS and made it into a phone and then a tablet. Windows mobile wasn't nearly as good a product but that was partially an attempt to make the mobile devices capable of running what they expected from Microsoft. Apple can get away with abandoning previous functionality (not so easy for them today with the share on tablets and phones) but Microsoft is expected to have that functionality.
If Microsoft would have come out with a capacitive touch tablet with the limitations of the first iPad they would have been justifiably booed. Not the same for Apple or Google who didn't have that legacy.
Windows on a tablet is a natural and will happen. Will it happen on out gTab? Maybe not but that would be more a function of Viewsonic and their ability to support us out into the future than it does with Microsoft.
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Im not a windows fan. I don't want to see another crummy version of windows especially on a tablet. I would rather see droid os on a laptop and oust windows altogether.
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You'd be a fool.
If you want a laptop or desktop to be a productive tool you need the capability a full blown OS offers. Android and our tablets serve a different purpose.
When my tablet gets closer to the capability of my netbook then we can talk about the future of Android.
(I do love my gTab. It works great!)
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Actually Windows CE was the only real mainstream platform almost 10 years ago on PDAs, like the Casio Cassiopeia. Touch screen, windows support for documents, etc. I could see this on a tablet, it wouldn't be a first. What I find most interesting is how Microsoft sat on their tech back then and let everyone walk around them on mobile devices in under 10 years.
In fact, I still have a working version of the Casio, overclocked and all. I should dig it out, it was a nice little device in its time.
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I also have a BE-300! They are a cool little device and it was cutting edge back in the day. The modding on that device was one of the reasons that I bought a gTab, I remember the fun I had flashing and hacking that device. I just ordered a new minolta np 200 battery yesterday and plan to resurect the old girl when it arrives (soldering iron required)!
As for windows 8 I think it looks like a fisher price OS!
Just as an FYI, I was checking out the Windows 8 Consumer trial download page and this is what they posted so far as minimum requirements:
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Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster
RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)
Hard disk space: 16 GB (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device or higher
To use touch, you need a tablet or monitor that supports multitouch
To access Windows Store and to download and run apps, you need an active Internet connection and a screen resolution of at least 1024 x 768
To snap apps, you need a screen resolution of at least 1366 x 768
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It seems like the GTab is in the ballpark. And from what I read, it is indeed supposed to support ARM architecture. The only concern would be the 512k ram but I still think it's do-able.
-maj
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Just as an FYI, I was checking out the Windows 8 Consumer trial download page and this is what they posted so far as minimum requirements:
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Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster
RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)
Hard disk space: 16 GB (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device or higher
To use touch, you need a tablet or monitor that supports multitouch
To access Windows Store and to download and run apps, you need an active Internet connection and a screen resolution of at least 1024 x 768
To snap apps, you need a screen resolution of at least 1366 x 768
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It seems like the GTab is in the ballpark. And from what I read, it is indeed supposed to support ARM architecture. The only concern would be the 512k ram but I still think it's do-able.
-maj
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As I recall windows 7 also said 1gb was its minimum ram, but I had it running perfectly fine on an old pentium 2 with 512mb. But as I also recall, Win8 requires a version of arm the gtablet doesn't have.
Here's a question for one of the developers if you don't mind? I'm getting ready to buy a laptop, the main use for it will be programming, Rom and kernel building and flashing and everything else that has to do with developing and hacking. Now common sence tells me that any laptop with I don't know 4 gb ram, dual core, will work for that, but honestly I've had to learn by trial and error and really I don't have the finances to afford an error in this case. My question is what specific specs are required on a laptop to be able to do this without going buck wild on the price but without having to wait 2 days for tasks to complete ( < exaggeration xD ) thanks and please if you're going to take the time to reply be specific and as thorough as possible so I have a solid idea on what to look for.
Proverbs 20:7 Be about your word!
I prefer to use desktop... they are cheaper than laptops. But if you want to buy laptop only, then 4 gb ram will do the work in case of android or graphical development. Graphic card can also increase the performance. if you want to do simple programming like in C, C++, Java then 1 gb ram is enough. If you want real cheap, find a dual core pentium processor(old) with less hard disk and small screen size or a cheap netbook. Good Luck.
Hello XDA, I don't often venture out of the branded device forums so here goes nothing.
I have chronic nerve damage in both of my arms (primarily right arm which is my writing hand). I am going back to school this year and the pain seems to be getting worse. The most painful thing for my arm is without a doubt writing, and I am filing for a 504 plan to allow me to use some other method of typing besides writing.
So there's the back story, now here's my question.
I need a device (not necessarily android, but a tablet is one of the main contenders) that can give me a solid writing experience (keyboard or bust, a keyboard cover/accessory will suffice, but NO on screen typing), offer an all day battery life, is portable and easy to store, and can also double as a media device. I am sort of on a budget, but am already in the market for a tablet so I'm willing to spend some extra $ on this. 600$- maybe $800, preferably less obviously.
Note, I probably won't have internet access during school, so DRM is out of the question.
So here are the candidates.
Chromebook - don't know what the stance on DRM is for these nowadays, but I would love a Chromebook as they are cheap, have nice typing experiences, and have great battery life. Again, if anybody can pitch in on DRM for the Chromebook that would be great. All I need for school is a writing supplement so a word editing software will work fine. I'm also aware that you can install Ubuntu on a Chromebook and Ubuntu has the libro office.
Android tablet - I love android, and was very close to buying the new shield tablet a few weeks ago. I'm glad I didn't because that device doesn't have many solid accessories currently, but a device like the nexus 7 probably does. However, the writing programs on android are really lackluster and don't offer the precision of a real laptop
Surface tablet - this one is kind of a long shot, but if for some reason the school requires a windows os (which could be possibly) I would choose this over a standard laptop because it doubles as a tablet.
Cheap windows laptop - this one is self explanatory, a cheap run of the mill windows laptop would type fine, but would be dead useless to me outside of school and I already have a laptop (a Toshiba satellite that is massive and has a terrible battery life) for home. Also the tablet would probably be slow and have a terrible battery... and yeah, windows.
So there you go. Thank you for reading this, this is very important for me right now as starting school again has out me in a tremendous amount of pain from writing, and I would love to find a solid supplement that meats all of my goals.
Thanks,
William
Does anybody here have a keyboard accessory for an android tablet that they could recommend?
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Hi,
I'm sorry I don't have any answer to your question, but since you're on the topic of typing and nerve damage, I thought I'll let you know about the Typematrix keyboards (http://www.typematrix.com/) that offer physical, ergonomic-layout keyboards such as Dvorak, Colemak and BÉPO, which are all designed to ease the pain (and up the speed) of typing. Learning to (touch-)type efficiently takes 4-8 weeks depending on the layout and the keyboards themselves aren't cheap (= in the $100-120 range), but if you value your health, I think it's worth it. Plus, the washable silicon skins are über soft and silent as well ! ^^
(I'm not affiliated with Typematrix in any way, but I give kudos when deserved )
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Hello XDA, I don't often venture out of the branded device forums so here goes nothing.
I have chronic nerve damage in both of my arms (primarily right arm which is my writing hand). I am going back to school this year and the pain seems to be getting worse. The most painful thing for my arm is without a doubt writing, and I am filing for a 504 plan to allow me to use some other method of typing besides writing.
So there's the back story, now here's my question.
I need a device (not necessarily android, but a tablet is one of the main contenders) that can give me a solid writing experience (keyboard or bust, a keyboard cover/accessory will suffice, but NO on screen typing), offer an all day battery life, is portable and easy to store, and can also double as a media device. I am sort of on a budget, but am already in the market for a tablet so I'm willing to spend some extra $ on this. 600$- maybe $800, preferably less obviously.
Note, I probably won't have internet access during school, so DRM is out of the question.
So here are the candidates.
Chromebook - don't know what the stance on DRM is for these nowadays, but I would love a Chromebook as they are cheap, have nice typing experiences, and have great battery life. Again, if anybody can pitch in on DRM for the Chromebook that would be great. All I need for school is a writing supplement so a word editing software will work fine. I'm also aware that you can install Ubuntu on a Chromebook and Ubuntu has the libro office.
Android tablet - I love android, and was very close to buying the new shield tablet a few weeks ago. I'm glad I didn't because that device doesn't have many solid accessories currently, but a device like the nexus 7 probably does. However, the writing programs on android are really lackluster and don't offer the precision of a real laptop
Surface tablet - this one is kind of a long shot, but if for some reason the school requires a windows os (which could be possibly) I would choose this over a standard laptop because it doubles as a tablet.
Cheap windows laptop - this one is self explanatory, a cheap run of the mill windows laptop would type fine, but would be dead useless to me outside of school and I already have a laptop (a Toshiba satellite that is massive and has a terrible battery life) for home. Also the tablet would probably be slow and have a terrible battery... and yeah, windows.
So there you go. Thank you for reading this, this is very important for me right now as starting school again has out me in a tremendous amount of pain from writing, and I would love to find a solid supplement that meats all of my goals.
Thanks,
William
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Hi Dude
i guess there is many options to choose since the market is huge
i would suggest something like this : 10.1 Inch Tablet Pc Intel Atom Baytrail-T Z3735D 1.33Ghz Quad Core DDR3 2GB SSD 32GB Dual Cameras Ultrabook Win8 it comes as a tablet that you can attach to a base (proper qwerty keyboard and stand) 32gb storeage about $400
or this : samsung XE500T1C windows 8 Quad-core is equipped with a keyboard Bluetooth/WIFI *same kind of a deal but 64gb storage and more slick and "known" device about $600
and if you feel that you might need more than that here : Intel Core I5 + 4G DDR3 + 128GB SSD+ Bluetooth+3G * this one is about $730
also since u have one m8 you can have look at the app i use for documents WPS Office: PPT, DOC, XLS, PDF
and here u have a solution in case you would like to get any other tablet SEARCH FOR TABLET CASES WITH KEYBOARD
all these links work but i mainly gave them as examples since you might be able to get them devices locally/cheaper
HEHEHEHE. I know Jide sells tablets too. So the question is why did they do this? Its almost asif back firing on their face again. Why would anyone want to purchase Jide products when they have a device better than it, their own pc's!!!???
Then again android x86 was a strong successful competitor and so Jide bought them out. so now theres no competition developments likely to go only one way and all according to Jide. is there a secret evil alterior motive for Jide doing all this? Or is it just part of a better nicer package?
Why is the Remix OS installer soo complicated and broken? Why is it that theres only intel cpu and gpu support and none other? why are features from older versions being removed in the new versions? why wont Jide support sim card function in Remix OS? Its only obvious if Jide wants to carry on selling its own products then they must give the pc public an inferior version or shall we call it one riddled and laced with problems or atleast an incomplete or feature disabled version? Is all this Jide marketting tactics? Yes, Remix OS is awesome and can be improved many ways to actually replace or compete with windows as a replacement PC, especially when it looks, feels and operates like windows. Why has Jide limited the internal storage space to 4GB only? Again is this basically the bit where
jide keep the pc version inferior while their own tablet version sells at different storage sizes e.g 16GB, 32GB, 64GB etc etc? LOL Im actually a little confused, baffled i must say.
I have the ativ pc pro xe700t1c the uk version with intel core i5 quad core and its also a convertible tablet with msata ssd as hdd drive and as you all probbaly know android was created for fast flash memory and linux format os so the best combination is an ssd and ext4 linux file format. I have a 64gb 544 mb/s msata drive in a usb 3.0 enclosure which i use to boot remix os and run it off it. Its perfectly smooth and fast enough 5 secs to boot and the ativ pc pro convertible laptop/tablet is fully compatible hadware software wise, no problems at all. The 5 year old Ativ pc pro gets 120,000+ score in antutu benchmark same as the latest LG G5 with the latest adreno 530 gpu/snapdragon 820 cpu which costs approx £600 now in retail!!! I bought the Ativ pc pro convertible laptop/tablet for only £200 two weeks ago with accessories (ethernet dock etc) worth alone £100 on its own off ebay!!! On top of all that its also a windows 10 pro convertible laptop/tablet system which on its own without android was initially worth £1200 five years ago and still costing approx £500 even now in retail. So what im trying to say here is that for only £200 i get a £600 android 6.0 laptop/tablet and i also get a £500 windows 10 pro laptop tablet ALL IN ONE.
clearly the masses want such a great benefit as above, clearly i feel Remix OS was not supposed to be this successful on the PC unless offcourse Jide really does have a BIG HEART and its about bringing something good to the masses!
Clearly such a revolution will make £1000 's android only devices such as Pixel C and others like it almost useless and paper weight as the raw power of a cheap PC's components is far greater than its expensive new components of its android counterpart! cost wise its cheaper than its android counterpart too!
The question is will Jide continue to be generous to the people or will Jide bring in measurements to protect its investments? Hmmmmm..
And what about Google??? How will Google react to this and what will it do after, wether prevent or allow such revolution. Surely Googles taking the biggest hit here! lol
I can whole heartedly tell you this that if Jide Include sim card support in Remix OS then i will be more than willing to purchase it for a sensible price, its worth it. Also this is a piece of successful software which will have millions of audience worldwide so there will always be supporters for it. My two cents.
Specifically, I'm curious about the RAM since there isn't much info about the minimum requirements about ram.
A little background info:
I have bought myself a second hand laptop, a Thinkpad R61. I plan to use it as a portable workstation (sort of) since i can't carry my desktop anywhere I want, obviously.
The CPU is a Core2 duo t7700 2.4 GHz, and i plan to keep it. The hard drive is a 5400rpm 160gb hdd, which is going to be replaced with an ssd. The ram is difficult to decide, though. I have 2 gb ddr2 right now, and I can shove in 8 gb max but that's expensive. I'm planning to go for 2+2 kit, but i don't know if that's enough.
I don't care if the compilation will take a long time, i just need to know whether 4 gb total is enough.
Oh, and keep in mind that budget is tight. Thanks.
A T7700 is probably going to take a very long time. Even building a kernel on a Q9500 was over an hour in 2013.
Get the RAM if it's very cheap or free, but I'd honestly save the money and put away to buy a newer laptop.
In the long term you'll get a far better result.
You may honestly be better off looking at building on a remote machine. Several places (such as Amazon) will let you create a VM that you can connect to and run remotely. As long as you don't go crazy on that you may even be able to get that for free. If you can get that, far better to go that route and saving your hard earned cash for a new laptop.
garwynn said:
A T7700 is probably going to take a very long time. Even building a kernel on a Q9500 was over an hour in 2013.
Get the RAM if it's very cheap or free, but I'd honestly save the money and put away to buy a newer laptop.
In the long term you'll get a far better result.
You may honestly be better off looking at building on a remote machine. Several places (such as Amazon) will let you create a VM that you can connect to and run remotely. As long as you don't go crazy on that you may even be able to get that for free. If you can get that, far better to go that route and saving your hard earned cash for a new laptop.
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Yeah, using a cloud service is what I am thinking lately. I think I might benefit from the uni's agreement on Azure, if there is such thing.
The laptop is fine actually despite it's age, the classic thinkpad keyboard is great, the whole thing is usable with win8.1 x86.
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