Q: Can I repurpose my gtab as an electronic "menu"? - G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi folks, I bought the gtab in one of the woot offers and while I very much appreciated it as a first tablet, even rooted and rom'd everyway, it was never responsive enough for my use. Too many lags, etc. But this is not to talk trash about the gtab. Just to say that I didn't get the use I wanted out of it.
I own a cafe and it's not a huge budget operation. Recently, I expanded my menu to have sandwiches and customers like it. Some asked for pictures but the printed versions are kind of dated as a look.
My question: do you folks believe I could repurpose my gtab as a fancy menu? All I would want it to do is:
1- only have one function: browse through a few pictures of sandwiches and their names.
2 - that customers would not be able to play with it other than flip through it (any application to recommend to block everything?)
3 - and I so don't want it to lag!
Is there a way to turn off as many functions as possible to make it really quick and responsive? I will buy a nice stand near the cash register and it'll be solid. I am not worried about that part but just the feasibility and the lag issues.
Thank you for bearing with me and I look forward to any help!

Hide status bar, disable hardware buttons, launch some picture app. Should be good to go.
Oh and make sure to block public access to all the ports, power button, and plug.

Yamagushi said:
Hide status bar, disable hardware buttons, launch some picture app. Should be good to go.
Oh and make sure to block public access to all the ports, power button, and plug.
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Thank you! It's actually nicer and simpler than I thought. I'll go experiment with these. Just curious, any rom that you would think would be best lightest in your experience? Again, thank you

cpttsubasa said:
Thank you! It's actually nicer and simpler than I thought. I'll go experiment with these. Just curious, any rom that you would think would be best lightest in your experience? Again, thank you
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I'd go with an older one, since the UI is never seen go with something stable like Froyo etc. Honeycomb and ICS are still slightly buggy and slower. I'm not sure what one, I've never used any of the older ROMs, but you definately want to go with the most stable for this, features of the newer ones are pointless for your uses. I hear 'clemsy' thrown around a lot, maybe give that one a whirl.

Search for "android kiosk mode"
Not sure if there is a good solution, but you will find like minded people
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703305
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2068084/kiosk-mode-in-android

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TouchWiz...Why do you like it?

I've yet to find a reason to use this over Launcher Pro...lack of customization, sloppy UI, among other things. What do you like about TW and why?
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I've yet to find a reason to use this over Launcher Pro...lack of customization, sloppy UI, among other things. What do you like about TW and why?
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I liked its simplicity (fat, basic icons on the bottom). I also discover liking having the drawer button on the far right.
I use ZEAM currently, with a 4 application setup and app drawer on the far right. The reason why I switched was because I couldn't set up TouchWiz to have my choice of the default home screen.
Cosmetics for me. I like the looks of it over the other Launchers, that all look too plain in comparison.
Plus, the music player app is the best.
Then again, I'm one of those people that always liked the looks of Windows XP, so my opinion probably doesn't mean much... ;-)
Likely for the reason that the whole world likes Super Mario Bros.
: non-offensive
: visually neutral/appealing to gaze upon
: Dummy/Idiot proof
: simple language such as "edit" "move" "delete" with no need to further pull out the Google Lexicon
: Light/transparent/translucent glass-like feel and look
: Color scheme Frost/Gray/w/shades of green is visually soothing
most of all: the glass/homogenous/smooth/surface mates very well with theme and motif of the phone. For lack of a better word, straight out of the box, T-Wiz seems like it "fits" the phone with the background/launcher/dock and subtle animations/transitions of the stock implementation.
Keep in mind that the first impression one should get before, during, and after one sees, picks up, touches, plays with, utilizes, then subsequently puts down the phone should be an entire experience that is streamlined to appeal to the general consumer and phone user either Android or non-android mobile phone buyer. Also, parallel to the aforementioned is that unlike the XDA group (present company included), the everyday shopper may not want to or know how to mod the Vibrant. As such, Samsung's target audience has been baited and hooked into the whole appeal and presentation of the Vibrant in Stock Tmobile T-Wiz form. Furthermore, without having exposure to alternative roms/themes/mods like we have here, they find the T-Wiz implementation very attractive and pleasing, as did I when I first saw the Vibrant.
So, as much as you may disagree, I can promise that the T-Wiz implementation was one of the first things that drew your attention toward it only to be negated and trampled upon once you found XDA.
I still appreciate T-Wiz as a whole package. As I use individual components of T-Wiz however, I find it cumbersome, laggy, and ultimately unsatisfying. Yet without knowing better (i.e. visiting XDA), one would no be in a position to make comparisons/distinctions between what "can be" rather than "what is." In fact, the general user of Vibrant outside the XDA community only has the T-Wiz to use, so for all we can gather, they are happy campers with it.
So, pertaining to bashing T-Wiz, I can understand, given the array of options that we have here at XDA. But perhaps we are too quickly jaded and woe-begone by the constant changing landscape executed with deliberate speed by our resident developers and developer teams such that we may want to slow down and realize,
1. how many times we've actually *FLASHED* our poor phones.
2. how many times the incessant urge of fickleness pervades the daily passing of time resulting in some *mod* to the phone or some *change* to the settings/ programs/ theme/ or otherwise.
3. how many times we have *Soft Bricked our phones
4. how many times we sign onto XDA for the sake of posterity, despite the fact that we may have an entire desk or naval battle ship's worth of paperwork to get through.
5. how many times we unilaterally and upon our own volition pique our own curiosity to *find what other *accessories (cases, car mounts, desk docks, screen protectors etc. . ) are available NOW (albeit only 10 minutes later than the last time we checked)
6.
7.
8. so on and so forth.
. . . . taking #1-8 into account and expand upon that, the idea that the rest of America who doesn't know or care about XDA are likely very happy with their Vibrants in its T-Mobile/ Out-of-the-box /factory / stock/ bland / watching-paint-dry/ watching-grass-grow/ non-offensive/ drab form and appearance.
Maybe, just maybe, worth thinking about.
I realize, the above is a long-winded answer to your unpalatable and pointless initial post. But hopefully, I did answer it.
Cheers.
After flashing/using many launchers, I just got sick of reconfiguring my setup after each flash. From day one, I was using custom "home" launchers, and just got tired trying to remember all my settings. Once I started using tw it isn't that bad.
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^ You do realize all of these you can BACKUP your settings and it saves them on your internal memory.... wipe/flash a new rom and you can be back EXACTLY as you were in seconds.
s15274n said:
^ You do realize all of these you can BACKUP your settings and it saves them on your internal memory.... wipe/flash a new rom and you can be back EXACTLY as you were in seconds.
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I like wiping everything...back then I didn't care enough to use tb. Even now, I prefer a clean slate.
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Ahh... It was the whole
I just got sick of reconfiguring my setup after each flash
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that got me... I Understand wanting a clean slate.
I don't like TW at all, it looks tacky, and iPhonish.
As far as backing up the settings, Launcher Pro (well at least the paid version) has an option to backup and restore your settings without the need of TB, but IMHO TB in itself is absolutely a must for any Android user, even if you do not want to customize/flash ROM'ss on your phone.

[Q] Note-taking app

Hey guys,
I've been searching the android market and app-brain for a good note-taking app. I can't find one, so I've started writing one.
The basic problem with most of the ones on the market is that they all are just text input apps.
That makes a lot of sense on a cell-phone, but with the nook an app that was more like a notebook would be much better.
Before I start anymore work on it, though, I thought I would ask if anyone had found a great one. Thanks ahead of time!
there are a few ok options, but definitely not great or notebook like. if you have a good concept, continue it, as none really do the job well enough yet
i use blackink, jorte, and ive been working with a few notepad options, but none are nearly 10/10 quality. 6-7 at best
Check out Springpad in the market. I like it.
I haven't found a good one either. At CES I believe Asus was showing off a note taking app for their android tablet that sounded interesting. Not sure what they called it though. Maybe a search for that could yield some good ideas.
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A decent note taking app would convince me to pick up a stylus. I write music and poetry and Evernote is great for keeping track of ideas before I lose them, but it is lacking a stylus option. It would be a good template as far as interface goes.
Looking forward to see what you come up with. =)
I'd love to see something more notebook-like, ruled (choice of either horizontal lines or grid), the ability to "flip" pages back and forward... it would be nice to be able to tear-out a "sheet" as well (either discard it, or use it to start a "new" notebook), as well as place "tabs" or "flags" on certain pages.
Anyway, sorry to throw all that out there, just thinking out loud about some of the things I think would nice features. =)
Awesome! I have a HTC branded Dagi coming in this weekend from Amazon and will start fine-tuning the application. I have a griffin stylus, but it's total junk for drawing/writing.
The current version only works in 2.2, but I'll post up the apk when it's at a testing point.
My focus right now is (at least for the first beta) a quick to write app, and a simple UI.
Very cool! =)
If you want input or suggestions, I'd be happy to help.
Would love to see something like this. Looking forward to checking out your first effort. Thanks!
PS - are you planning to allow keyboard input as well, or stylus only?
I'm pretty happy with ColorNote. It is simple and you can put "stickies" on your home screen. It has a plain text notes or checklists.
I use InkPad and share the notes to my Evernote account that way they are all accessible via any device anytime.
I love Genial Writing, it's just like a virtual notebook and compensates for lack of stylus by allowing you to write and then press a button that shrinks your writing and fits it in a line of the notebook. It's hard to explain but using my finger I can make handwritten notes that fit quite a bit of information on one page. Check below for a picture/description.
Linky
can you point me to an apk download for inkpad? thanks
Hey guys,
After doing some testing I think my Nook Color's settings are off. I run the app and the stylus don't maintain a constant "stream" of points. The result is that it feels like your writing with a pen that is almost out of ink.
Does anyone know how to solve this problem? I have two different stylus' and both react in a similar way (though the Dagi has better performance)
Gtasks.
Love this app.
I know that some people find flashers disgusting, but i cant help myself.
This app brings back all my notes just by installing and allow it to sync with google.
I have been looking for an app like this for awhile so if you are able to make one I would definitely be willing to beta test and pay for it if you decide to not make it freeware.
Awesome! I'm still working on it. The problem I'm currently dealing with is the touch-screen on the nook color isn't that great. Even when using a stylus (with no screen protector) the continuous drag event is broken up a lot. This makes it feel like your "pen" is running out of ink all the time.
I doubt stylus input will work on the nook. I've tried a few, and they all work like a dream on my iPhone and the iPads at the store, but they are frustrating and inconsistent on the Nook Color.
Grantium said:
I doubt stylus input will work on the nook. I've tried a few, and they all work like a dream on my iPhone and the iPads at the store, but they are frustrating and inconsistent on the Nook Color.
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That sucks.
OP, Perhaps your app can add a "hold" button on the app that connects all points drawn in a complete line.. This will "connect the dots" so to speak instead of the jagged lines your getting..
I wonder if any of the sketching apps behave in this similar manner? Have you tried SBM or other sketching apps to see if this problem translates to all apps?

Honeycomb "upgrade" is a downgrade

I have not updated my Evo View Tablet to Honeycomb for the unacceptable flaws in its' design. I can't believe more people are not in uproar about this.
I used a View Tablet with the Honeycomb update, and it has some major design flaws, here they are:
-The top 25% of the screen can not be used to place widgets and/or apps
-The white soft-key buttons are disabled (how does it make sense to render a piece of hardware on the device useless? )
-The menu icon on the bottom appears while in certain situations and migrates to the top in other situations
-The notification pull down (or pull up rather) menu is scattered and sloppy.
-The main settings window has a glaring white background , where as on all other android software , it has always been a black background.
the GO-launcher is necessary in order to actually utilize the entire screen, and to ofcoarse customize the grid sizes , icon sizes, resize widgets, but the bottom on-screen buttons end up creating a sort of glitch at the bottom of the screen.
Threads like these have been made before, the most common "gb vs hc". Similar opinions have been expressed there. No need to create a new thread to explain and whine about what has been explained and whined about. Don't like it? Downgrade. Nobody is stopping you.
AidenM said:
Threads like these have been made before, the most common "gb vs hc". Similar opinions have been expressed there. No need to create a new thread to explain and whine about what has been explained and whined about. Don't like it? Downgrade. Nobody is stopping you.
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you can't downgrade , unless you "root" the thing.
Im sorry, i was not aware there was "gb vs hc" threads, i haven't found any on this forum.
You know..there are a few things I want from my tablet not currently offered..
Once the pen functionality gets imported into an ICS rom, no one is even going to care about HC or Gb anyway..
And if they release the code for that we will be able to perfect the fujitsu cheapo version.. too...
Hm.. I really need to set up my comp to contribute to a project. x.x
see , you guys are adept at installing custom roms and "rooting" but for those of that just want to stick with factory default software, we're at mercy to these ridiculous flaws . Luckily , Gingerbread works perfectly , especially in conjunction with GOLauncherEx
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-The white soft-key buttons are disabled (how does it make sense to render a piece of hardware on the device useless? )
-The menu icon on the bottom appears while in certain situations and migrates to the top in other situations
-The main settings window has a glaring white background , where as on all other android software , it has always been a black background.
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While there are some valid points to your criticisms, it's important to recognize that the blame for some of these items doesn't rest with Honeycomb. Where the menu icon appears is dictated within the app itself. It's true that the placement is inconsistent but I think that stems from some apps being optimized for phones (when it's on the bottom) and some being optimized for tablets (when it's on the top right).
While it may be sub-optimal to turn of the soft keys, it's still better than if they had been actual physical buttons, and it was HTC's decision in the first place to release a tablet that doesn't run the tablet OS. I feel that they actually did a decent job dealing with the issue, as I don't notice the soft keys now that they're off. Would I turn them back on, given the option? Maybe - I don't know yet. Would the menu button work consistently in all apps? I don't know that either.
I think some of the issues you have deal with HTC Sense, especially within the Settings. I too hate how the settings look, but the stock Honeycomb Settings (and dialog boxes, etc) are much less offensive.
Snow_fox said:
You know..there are a few things I want from my tablet not currently offered..
Once the pen functionality gets imported into an ICS rom, no one is even going to care about HC or Gb anyway..
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I too am hoping ICS becomes reality on the Flyer/View, but in all fairness it's not going to drastically change the user experience compared to HC. The HC-specific complaints here apply to ICS too.
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I too am hoping ICS becomes reality on the Flyer/View, but in all fairness it's not going to drastically change the user experience compared to HC. The HC-specific complaints here apply to ICS too.
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Except that can active the hardware buttons and remove the onscreen buttons thus offering you more screen space...
Scoh said:
see , you guys are adept at installing custom roms and "rooting" but for those of that just want to stick with factory default software, we're at mercy to these ridiculous flaws . Luckily , Gingerbread works perfectly , especially in conjunction with GOLauncherEx
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If you have the ability to read you have the ability to learn, therefore you have the ability to root.
If you don't want to root/jailbreak your at the mercy of ridiculous flaws no matter what.
Every device has flaws that most people would love to change from the iphone to android to all the windows mobile phones.
If you don't believe me, examine the "jailbreak culture".
Not trying to be mean, but if a device doesn't do what you want and your not willing to do something about it.. then it is hard to take your complaints entirely seriously..
A lot of people here put forth a lot of time and energy fixing the things your complaining about. When your unwilling to read and use their solutions and you complain anyway.. your complaints are likely to be met with some degree of hostility.
The culture of XDA isn't "epinions" or "newegg reviews" it is one of learning, teaching and hands on experience.
I respect the fact that people want different things in their devices, and even request things here.. But, when your not requesting, your not asking if something is possible to work on it yourself.. Your essentially saying "WAH i don't want to put forth the effort to fix something that is possible to be fixed, but I want you guys to listen to me complain anyway!"..
I have learned the hard way that within the more nerdy subculture of modding there is a tendency of "Read, learn, or go find someone who cares".
I like my flyer
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Except that can active the hardware buttons and remove the onscreen buttons thus offering you more screen space...
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TIL - interesting. The thing I keep running into, mentally, with ICS is that it still has two distinct interfaces, one for phones and the other for tablets. While the UI is now more consistent, phone ICS retains the top status bar like GB while tablet ICS is not too different from HC.
Won't any ICS build that ends up on the Flyer/View be tablet-based? If so, it seems that the status bar would always be on the bottom, buttons or not. It will be interesting to see how this develops.
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TIL - interesting. The thing I keep running into, mentally, with ICS is that it still has two distinct interfaces, one for phones and the other for tablets. While the UI is now more consistent, phone ICS retains the top status bar like GB while tablet ICS is not too different from HC.
Won't any ICS build that ends up on the Flyer/View be tablet-based? If so, it seems that the status bar would always be on the bottom, buttons or not. It will be interesting to see how this develops.
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One of the major points of ICS is to provide flexibility to all needed hardware.
Even if tablet based, they will probably account for the buttons.
ICS is essentially HC with a few new features thrown in and the ability to run on smaller screens. They even share most of the same source code. Since ICS is built on top of HC, don't expect drastic changes. Most of what people whine about can already be easily gotten on rooted ROMs and it will continue to be that way with ICS. Rooting gives you the opportunity to have it your way to a greater extent. But you can't have it your way all the way, that only happens at Burger King.
Considering HTC designed tablet HW for the outdated GB OS, its not that bad. Yeah the hard buttons are now a relic of the late 90s, but the Flyer still screams and look pretty darn good with HC.
And since we are on a rant thread. Why the @%## can't we have a thread about important stuff like this from the CES show?
http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/584-ces-2012-booth-babe-model.html#xtor=RSS-182
The View with Honeycomb is a true small tablet. With GB it's really a big phone. Some people want a tablet, some want a phone. Your call on what you want. I love HC and would love even more to see ICS. With cypher-rom and dolphin browser, my tablet pulls up web pages just as fast as my girlfriend's transformer prime, which is shocking to me at least. Can't wait till we get an OC kernel for honeycomb on the view.
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The View with Honeycomb is a true small tablet. With GB it's really a big phone. Some people want a tablet, some want a phone.
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This is a great way to describe it. With ICS' flexibility it will be interesting to see if someone makes a ROM with the phone status bar and HW buttons - would be very GB-like!
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I can't believe more people are not in uproar about this.
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If you read around this forum just a little, you would know the these issues have been discussed ad nauseum.
I disagree that HC is a downgrade. Yes there are downsides (and you pointed most of them out, but left off a couple of others such as the reduction in the number of home screens) but there are two major upsides that seal the deal for me:
1) The ability to use the pen in all apps is huge. I've got drawing programs that were simply begging for pen input in GB that suddenly fulfil their full potential in HC. Also, if you ever RDP to a windows worstation, having the pen available for choosing tiny menu items is a vast improvement over having to use your big fat finger.
2) Honeycomb fixes the bug in Gingerbread in which when placed in landscape mode and paired to a bluetooth keyboard the arrow keys do not map correctly. In Honecomb they do, and given the amount of writing I do on my Flyer this, too, is massive.
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This is a great way to describe it. With ICS' flexibility it will be interesting to see if someone makes a ROM with the phone status bar and HW buttons - would be very GB-like!
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That is the number 2 reason I want ICS... Number one is full HW acceleration makes a single core tab feel very dual core (gf has a nexus s with cm9, the difference was astonishing). Actually... Number 2 is the task switching is very webos
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The only two negatives I have since updating are the battery seems to drain faster and I miss the hardware buttons. Other than that I think HoneyComb is better. The internet no longer crashes, use to crash at least twice a day with Gingerbread. Also like being able to better organize the icons on the home screen.
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I like my flyer
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Well said.
10chcar
Snow_fox said:
If you have the ability to read you have the ability to learn, therefore you have the ability to root.
If you don't want to root/jailbreak your at the mercy of ridiculous flaws no matter what.
Every device has flaws that most people would love to change from the iphone to android to all the windows mobile phones.
If you don't believe me, examine the "jailbreak culture".
Not trying to be mean, but if a device doesn't do what you want and your not willing to do something about it.. then it is hard to take your complaints entirely seriously..
A lot of people here put forth a lot of time and energy fixing the things your complaining about. When your unwilling to read and use their solutions and you complain anyway.. your complaints are likely to be met with some degree of hostility.
The culture of XDA isn't "epinions" or "newegg reviews" it is one of learning, teaching and hands on experience.
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This. Well said. I don't mean it in a harsh way either. I was completely phone/computer impaired before I decided I didn't want to wait for voice to text (2.1) on my moto droid. It took about ten minutes to root and flash that phone. Now I'm hooked, and I learned a TON of stuff in the process. If your upset enough to post about it, shouldn't you be motivated enough to spend a few minutes just fixing it yourself
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[Q] Lapdock for Atrix 4g - what do you use it for?

I just got my lapdock and it's neat, no doubt about it. But what do you actually use it for?
rvbarton said:
I just got my lapdock and it's neat, no doubt about it. But what do you actually use it for?
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I'm gonna wait for this one to get going before I input my wit!
VERY basic web browsing (email, facebook, xda, etc) and that's it. Don't try to fire up too many youtube videos or you'll get the low memory popup. I'm going to take my lapdock for a weekend wedding trip instead of my laptop in May...I should be ok. Looking forward to possible improvements in the future ICS build .
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I'm gonna wait for this one to get going before I input my wit!
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Oh please, offer your wit. I need a good laugh today.
rvbarton said:
I just got my lapdock and it's neat, no doubt about it. But what do you actually use it for?
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I got my new bicycle today........It's really shiny and cool. What's a bicycle do anyway?
Why did you buy something if you don't know what to do with it?
(Sorry, but it's either of two things..............you worded the OP in a way that doesn't convey what you really meant, or you really did just buy a lapdock without knowing what it's for)
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I got my new bicycle today........It's really shiny and cool. What's a bicycle do anyway?
Why did you buy something if you don't know what to do with it?
(Sorry, but it's either of two things..............you worded the OP in a way that doesn't convey what you really meant, or you really did just buy a lapdock without knowing what it's for)
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My main curiosity is what most people use it for, as each person finds different value in different items....
I know what it is for and I'm enjoying using it in my own fashion. The main reason I bought it, so you will know, is because I found it for $50 bucks and it will increase the value of my Atrix 4g as a package, if & and when I go to sell it, should I ever find a phone I like more.
Also,Congrats on your new bicycle as well. I hope it serves you well. Just wait until you take the training wheels off! You'll be REALLY happy.
Thanks, I'm really happy with it! It has streamers on the handles!
I bought the lapdock in a deal also, but unfortunately mine is off to Motorola as there was something wrong with it when I received it. I think the lapdock will change somewhat in functionality once Webtop 3.0 becomes available to us. It should have more of a "laptop" functionality at that point I think.
I used it for very little until I installed webtop2sd, and turned it into a very serviceable portable connected computer. I have replaced my current laptop with the lapdock, and have been quite happy using Openoffice, and PDF reader. Professionally, I now have used it in court 3-4 times to hold reference materials (instead of printing volumes of online records), and I do email with it. I have also heard that it is very functional in a remote desktop setting, but aside from testing this, I have not pursued it.
The one issue that I have is installing firefox extensions. My lack of linux knowledge is holding me back, and I would like to be able to read .tif files from within the browser, but as of now cannot. Other than this, I think it is safe to consider this as functional as a regular (lower end) laptop.
Again, I cannot reiterate how much more useful webtop2sd makes this device. Who knows what the ICS update will bring?
Meh, id rather have an actual linux distro than android on a screen: Ubuntu is made for a mouse and keyboard, android, and specifically the apps for it, are made for touchscreens that our lapdocks do not have, so i dont see it translating well.

Ugh. EMUI is so broken that it is pointless trying to theme this phone.

EMUI sure is strange when it comes to support for themes or modifications of any kind to the interface. Without the 3rd party support of an entire host of apps to make changes actually possible, the stock 'theme app' is entirely useless. Okay, so you have to install a spammy app for theme support. Then you need to install another one for fonts, and to actually be able to change them. Then you install a few more, all of which can't directly do anything but inject imported stuff into the official app. Pro tip, you always need to kill the official app before launching it from these 3rd party apps - or the app won't see your new stuff.
That would all be fine, and manageable, but the way EMUI handles themes in general is too broken to bother. Their own official 'dark themes' are broken beyond use, and so are the 'PRO' 3rd party ones. There is no point in forcing a dark background to apps if you aren't going to ensure that the font colour of those same apps or EMUI dialogue menus isn't going to adjust to contrast it. In other words, you can really screw yourself over to the point where you can't even read anything to undo the damage. Crank your brightness to max if this happens.
Even that could be worked around with enough tinkering, but what *cannot* be fixed is the way EMUI handles the onscreen nav icons. For one thing, WHY don't these automatically slip away for ALL apps, and in the OS itself?! They do for games, and they most certainly do for any decent Rom made in the past five years. Nope, instead they are just stuck there like a sore thumb ALL THE TIME outside of games, and this makes something like the dock in Nova Launcher just look terrible. Yeah, and if you haven't used a Rom that makes these disappear properly all the time, wow you don't know how much better it is supposed to be.
That isn't the real problem, though. What makes all of this meaningless is that the OS/EMUI fails to automatically adjust the outline colour of these icons depending on what you are doing. With a gray or fire type theme, it looks fantastic on the homescreens. Sadly, anything you load that falls back to a black background for dealing with fullscreen/aspect ration issues makes the icons disappear altogether. There is no way to fix this, period. It is irritating beyond measure. Don't get me started on how broken that 'sorta fullscreen' implementation is, I can list a dozen AAA+ games for Android that result in you being completely locked out of bringing back the nav icons in either mode. Again, other Roms have figured this stuff out years ago, since Huawei knew they were going to have a wonky aspect ration and the need to dance around a notch... There is no excuse for this.
I am holding out hope for Roms now that we have unlocked bootloaders back on the menu, and what looks like working TWRP/Magisk support. In the meantime, I give up trying to make the phone pretty. I know I could hack and slash at various things in ADB to force fallback to 8.x style nav stuff/gestures along with various different launcher tweaks to get around this, but I don't need the headache. Come on Huawei, this is a flagship phone on what is supposed to be cutting edge and mature OS. Why do major pieces of the UI feel like drunken alpha release code?
How much theming is available on Pixel phones which are supposed to offer the best and most pure Android interface? None whatsoever unless you decide to root the phone and use Substratum. As far as I know Pixel phones still don't have a native dark mode.
Samsung, Xiaomi and Huawei are pretty much the only companies that offer theming options on their stock ROMs.
Out of curiosity, exactly what stock ROM are you comparing the supposedly broken theming on EMUI to?
I have seen your posts and you seem to pretty much only start threads when you have something negative to say.
If you hate Huawei phones there are plenty of other options.
Solution: Don't buy Huawei, buy Nokia Symbian
jhs39 said:
How much theming is available on Pixel phones which are supposed to offer the best and most pure Android interface? None whatsoever unless you decide to root the phone and use Substratum. As far as I know Pixel phones still don't have a native dark mode.
Samsung, Xiaomi and Huawei are pretty much the only companies that offer theming options on their stock ROMs.
Out of curiosity, exactly what stock ROM are you comparing the supposedly broken theming on EMUI to?
I have seen your posts and you seem to pretty much only start threads when you have something negative to say.
If you hate Huawei phones there are plenty of other options.
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You've "seen my posts" have you? Wow. I don't remember saying anything about 'stock roms'. I also don't remember saying I hate Huawei phones. I'll just pm you my login information and you can make my posts for me, okay? Just don't criticize the way Huawei handles themes, though. WHAT ABOUT YOUR PIXEL STRAWMAN?!

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