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We should be able to make a list of the notorious apps that we've experienced that cause battery drain. No, not some 3d launcher, not some game you play too much, but apps that when installed kill your battery without good cause..
This is an opinion thread, if you see the same app repeatedly than maybe that opinion should matter, and feel free to give your insight.. but no "you're an idiot, because blah blah"
I've used poweramp music player for nearly a year, I've emailed the dev because it will kill my battery at huge rates, but they claimed that it isn't the app. Even though there are tons of posts about the same thing(many about my phone the Samsung galaxy s).. I'm sure it does, but I love the functionality it has and can't give it up. Which is fine.
But I suddenly have battery drain really bad and tthe only change I made was switching to go launcher. Maybe it is the Widgets, but I have lost several hours a day of battery only after using it.
Either way, since I couldn't find a thread about apps people think cause needless battery drain I figured I'd post one. I bet there are a ton of apps people will hate on, but maybe qe can save someone from finding out the hard way, or maybe a developer will see their app listed and think they should work on it..
Regardless, what apps have you installed and noticed needless battery drain?
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Wi-Fi Finder from Android Market drains the battery of my HTC Desire HD
I hear the android IRC app drains battery pretty badly.
Go!chat is litteraly eating the battery of every android device i've put it on
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This thread is going to be full of complete nonsense.. There are badly written apps that are going to do stupid stuff, but there are also apps which have custom codecs which use more power to decode certain file formats (PowerAmp) and apps which by design are going to use power (Wifi Scanners).
The sorta new free warcraft type game, eternity warriors or something like that. Impossible to turn off
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khaytsus said:
This thread is going to be full of complete nonsense.. There are badly written apps that are going to do stupid stuff, but there are also apps which have custom codecs which use more power to decode certain file formats (PowerAmp) and apps which by design are going to use power (Wifi Scanners).
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The exact kind of comment that doesn't contribute. No, it may list some apps that cause NEEDLESS battery drain. According to the dev of poweramp it doesn't process the muscle any differently, and shouldn't drain more than the stock app. There's no custom codecs to read mp3s.
I wont waste anymore time on someone who isn't contributing, only trolling.
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The yahoo! Mail app with it's push only setting had been a HUGE battery killer!
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Silentbtdeadly said:
The exact kind of comment that doesn't contribute. No, it may list some apps that cause NEEDLESS battery drain. According to the dev of poweramp it doesn't process the muscle any differently, and shouldn't drain more than the stock app. There's no custom codecs to read mp3s.
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You clearly don't get that PowerAmp doesn't use the same codecs as most media players.. It has custom ffmpeg libs. The author can say they should be similar in cpu but doesn't mean they are.
And I agree that it does use more cpu.. Mostly notice it when I listen to music while sleeping, the phone gets much warmer than if I'm using stock codecs.
And watch your use of the word troll...
Back to my point..
Danzanzio said:
The yahoo! Mail app with it's push only setting had been a HUGE battery killer!
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NetCounter prevents the phone from enter sleep mode. Stay clear!
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+1 for the yahoo mail app.
I am using Go Launcher Ex, Launcher Pro + and ADW Launcher and cannot say that one consumes more battery than the other, it depends more on what widgets or live WP you use in the launcher, so i think we should focus on pinpointing what widgets and in what settings or conditions drain the battery, for example i found that Animated Weather was for me draining to much juice and replaced it by BeWeather, for the same reason i replaced Executive Widgets by Pure Widget.
On the other hand i removed K9 Mail and am using MailDroid, as in several occasions K9 climbed to the top of the list in battery usage, doubling even the screen usage.
At this point i never more experienced excessive battery drain, other than screen and phone cell standby (due to bad reception in my area).
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On the other hand i removed K9 Mail and am using MailDroid, as in several occasions K9 climbed to the top of the list in battery usage, doubling even the screen usage.
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Let me guess, you were using POP...
Actually I might as well complain about a widget I installed, but I uninstalled it a month ago and haven't been able to figure out exactly which one it is in the market... Doh.. I installed it and it literally woke the phone and my tablet up ONCE A MINUTE to update. Deep sleep was gone, battery life about 30% lower than expected. So beware of widgets that update often
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Let me guess, you were using POP...
Actually I might as well complain about a widget I installed, but I uninstalled it a month ago and haven't been able to figure out exactly which one it is in the market... Doh.. I installed it and it literally woke the phone and my tablet up ONCE A MINUTE to update. Deep sleep was gone, battery life about 30% lower than expected. So beware of widgets that update often
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Yes you are right i am using pop.
You point is also correct, there are widgets which wont let deep sleep the phone. A method to pinpoint them is to look at the logcat and see which app is waking up the phone constantly.
tunein radio pro and sensor
I had a problem with tunein radio pro. Even after I shut it down though (App Management), under battery use, tunein radio was listed as draining battery continuously under sensor usage.
No idea if it is a sensor issue or the app issue.
kik (gotten better with battery but still needs improvement)
jolaren said:
Go!chat is litteraly eating the battery of every android device i've put it on
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yup same here
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Let me guess, you were using POP...
Actually I might as well complain about a widget I installed, but I uninstalled it a month ago and haven't been able to figure out exactly which one it is in the market... Doh.. I installed it and it literally woke the phone and my tablet up ONCE A MINUTE to update. Deep sleep was gone, battery life about 30% lower than expected. So beware of widgets that update often
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why not IMAP?
FIRST KILLER,
GOOGLE MAP!
I disabled it to prevent it auto start via autostart app.
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I've noticed the Photobucket app likes to open itself up in the background at times (i.e. overnight) and use up to 5% of my battery power.
Maps, Google+, PURE News and Messager widgets, K9 for Pure, XDA App (unfoortunately)
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In many cases, people who have battery drain issues have a tendency to end up being found to be using a known battery draining app or configuration. To help these people, I'm going to try to start a list here. I will, in the case of known rogue apps, include the reporting date so people can try updates to see if drain is fixed. (For example, Facebook is rarely a culprit any more, but it was the #1 most common battery eater in 2010.) The primary focus here will be things that shouldn't drain your battery but do.
Firmware bugs:
The UCKK6 OTA update contains a number of issues with wifi and bluetooth. Among these is that an oddball feature of our Wifi/Bluetooth chipset goes nuts and wakes up the phone once per second intermittently. Rebooting temporarily fixes it, turning off wifi temporarily fixes it, only permanent fix is to ditch UCKK6. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409513 for more details - Appears as a variant of the Android OS "bug" - this is the only one that is actually 100% a firmware bug. International XWKK5 is also affected.
LAN Environment (WiFi):
Broadcast LAN traffic can wake your wifi chip often. This also manifests as the Android OS "bug", but it's a small problem with the firmware base (XXKI3 and UCKK6 are known to be affected) and mostly a network problem. Examples I've seen so far include:
Windows Client Backup
UPnP (DLNA) SSDP
Dropbox Lan Sync Discovery Protocol
Buggy piece-of-**** routers that spam lots of ARP requests continuously - The 2Wire routers that are required for UVerse access apparently fit in this category.
You are more likely to have the above issue on some firmware bases than others. For example, XXKI3 disables all of the chip's packet filters, making it vulnerable to this sort of thing. UCKH7 and XWKL1 don't, leading to significantly improved life on "dirty" networks. UCKK6 almost surely also has the same problem.
Configuration issues:
Hotmail calendar sync
Misconfigured Microsoft Exchange servers - 1) is a special case of this. At least one person has reported that calendar sync to a non-Hotmail account was problematic for them, but email sync was OK
A bad Exchange configuration - the client apparently goes nuts if it can't contact the server
BLN - On Galaxy S II devices, there is no stable BLN implementation that does not hold a wakelock when a notification is active. This means that an active BLN notification will drain about 4-5%/hour. I say this in bold letters in my kernel thread, but somehow people still don't realize it...
Rogue apps:
Words with Friends (October 2011)
Skype (October 2011) - Particularly insidious, as it does not directly hold a wakelock. However, it causes lots of background network activity, and this activity keeps your phone awake. Since most of the time is spent wakelocked in the network stack, Skype drain shows as Android OS.
Any IM app that works similarly to Skype is likely to have the same issues.
AP Mobile Widget on stock AT&T ROMs - this one also blows through your data allotment quickly if you don't have unlimited data
AT&T Smart WiFi can sometimes hold excessive wakelocks - this is why AT&T bloat is bad for you.
The Obvious:
3D or animation/action-intensive games
The Rare:
Apps that occasionally go nuts, but not frequently
Facebook - I've had it wakelock me once, and also, Facebook chat may have triggered my first obvious "AOS bug" episode once - so far, it's been responsible for drain once this month
StartingAlertService - some sort of Calendar notification related bug
The False Blame:
GPS Status and Toolbox - may appear to be high-drain but is actually not draining - this is an Android battery reporting bug - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23106668&postcount=491 for more details. Thank you for the info and the great app rhornig.
If you're having battery drain issues, I suggest the following:
Install BetterBatteryStats. The XDA edition from the author's thread on these forums is free. (Market version is paid.)
Also, having CPUSpy to see deep sleep percentages is VERY useful
BBS now shows kernel wakelocks - make sure to check these. If you have an older version that doesn't show kernel wakelocks, use the instructions below.
Get ADB up and running (Google it, and if you're on Windows, Googling Droid Explorer may help)
Using ADB, do the following:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/wakelocks > wakelocks.txt
adb shell dmesg > dmesg.txt
Zip em' up and post em' here for analysis.
Edit: Specifically, to get a good baseline measurement of idle drain - make sure to have CPUSpy installed for this procedure:
Charge phone to full
Reboot
Reset timers in CPUSpy, otherwise the percentages and bars will be wacky
Let the phone sit for a while - Overnight is best. Then provide data:
Deep sleep percentage
Time the phone was sitting
Percentage battery drained
I don't need screenshots of the above, just the numbers. Screenshots use up massive amounts of thread space
Grab /proc/wakelocks as mentioned above and post it, OR use BetterBatteryStats 1.4 or above to pull kernel wakelocks.
Note: If you're at or below 1%/hour idle drain, not much point of posting your wakelocks.
If you have high wlan_wake, wlan_rx_wake, or svnet-dormancy wakelock times, then you have an app eating data or one of the wifi wakeup bugs described above. Install Shark for Root - https://market.android.com/details?id=lv.n3o.shark
Start it, and change parameters from:
Code:
-vv -s 0
to
Code:
-vv -s 68
This tells it to only capture the first 68 bytes of each packet, which is all we need for this purpose. This provides two benefits: A smaller capture, and privacy for you. (It captures packet headers but not contents)
Then start a capture and let it sit for a bit.
Note that your drain will be higher during the capture than normal - we're collecting data here, not directly nuking the drain.
After a while where you are positive you are encountering drain, stop Shark and then pull the .pcap file - load it in Wireshark on your PC or post it here. If you post it here, MAKE SURE you have a truncated capture as instructed above!
Thank you sir. Will do in a few.
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Words with friends is an insane battery drainer. I had a screen on time of 4 hours and 15 minutes with 35% battery use and Words with friends had a 45 min cpu usage and was 26% of the battery drain...There is no way that should be so close to the screen usage. CRAZY.
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Words with friends is an insane battery drainer. I had a screen on time of 4 hours and 15 minutes with 35% battery use and Words with friends had a 45 min cpu usage and was 26% of the battery drain...There is no way that should be so close to the screen usage. CRAZY.
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I spent a while testing that app before finding out it is a phone-wide issue. Emailed the dev today but we'll see how it goes. Not a small dev anymore.
Yea I hope they fix it...I love playing it but it kills my battery. If that app didnt run I may have like 5 hours of screen time on a single charge if not more. I looked at many of the reviews of it and many of them mention the battery killing it does.
Just discovered an interesting feature built in to the stock rom. Go to task manager > storage and you'll see it©.
The tower defense game Sentinel 3 will put a HEAVY drain on your battery.
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Just discovered an interesting feature built in to the stock rom. Go to task manager > storage and you'll see it©.
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Huh? What happens?
Apparently an app I come to love and use on all my devices is Battery Monitor Widget. According to to someone's post from the BBS thread and due to my own investigation. BMW will cause a lot of wake time up to 970 awakes over a 12 HR period. That is a lot time consuming battery and resources.
rebooted my phone reset cpu spy and going to leave it not charging and I will abd into the phone and get the demesg and other file and post here.. been losing 30% over night on about 8 hours which I know is way off... no skype I have wifi data sync and gps on as well as syncing a google account twitter tango and facebook.... which I understand might be alot but shouldn't this phone be able to handle all that? I also live in a basement with poor service but right next to the router... getting a microcell on Friday which I hope helps. My AOS is around 65% in battery status and suspend and events/0 are definitely running more than one minute every 10 hours, more like 20 minutes at least every charge, and my phone is lasting 11 hours give or take with minimal to no use
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rebooted my phone reset cpu spy and going to leave it not charging and I will abd into the phone and get the demesg and other file and post here.. been losing 30% over night on about 8 hours which I know is way off... no skype I have wifi data sync and gps on as well as syncing a google account twitter tango and facebook.... which I understand might be alot but shouldn't this phone be able to handle all that? I also live in a basement with poor service but right next to the router... getting a microcell on Friday which I hope helps. My AOS is around 65% in battery status and suspend and events/0 are definitely running more than one minute every 10 hours, more like 20 minutes at least every charge, and my phone is lasting 11 hours give or take with minimal to no use
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Suspend and events/0 at 1 minute every 10h aren't too bad. AOS at 65 is a bit high.
Unless one of the above apps you use is implemented badly, your phone should be able to handle the above. I have Google and Facebook and get great drain. I haven't heard reports of Twitter causing problems.
Tango is an unknown - it's in a similar class to Skype so could be driving excessive idle network traffic.
To the person who posted that a game drained their battery - well, that should be pretty obvious. I guess I'll add it to the first post later, but I'm primarily focusing on the "non-obvious" stuff - things that SHOULDN'T drain your battery but do.
Tango is all good had it installed on my phone forever my batt life is amazing. It doesnt require a sign in. Look out for anything that make you sign in besides google as far as im concerned
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Entropy512 said:
In many cases, people who have battery drain issues have a tendency to end up being found to be using a known battery draining app or configuration. To help these people, I'm going to try to start a list here. I will, in the case of known rogue apps, include the reporting date so people can try updates to see if drain is fixed. (For example, Facebook is rarely a culprit any more, but it was the #1 most common battery eater in 2010.) The primary focus here will be things that shouldn't drain your battery but do.
Configuration issues:
Hotmail calendar sync
Misconfigured Microsoft Exchange servers - 1) is a special case of this. At least one person has reported that calendar sync to a non-Hotmail account was problematic for them, but email sync was OK
Rogue apps:
Words with Friends (October 2011)
Skype (October 2011) - Particularly insidious, as it does not directly hold a wakelock. However, it causes lots of background network activity, and this activity keeps your phone awake. Since most of the time is spent wakelocked in the network stack, Skype drain shows as Android OS.
Any IM app that works similarly to Skype is likely to have the same issues.
The Obvious:
3D or animation/action-intensive games
If you're having battery drain issues, I suggest the following:
Install BetterBatteryStats. The XDA edition from the author's thread on these forums is free. (Market version is paid.)
If BBS doesn't show any significant wakelocks, and no apps show as hogs in Settings->About Phone->Battery, do the following:
Get ADB up and running (Google it, and if you're on Windows, Googling Droid Explorer may help)
Using ADB, do the following:
Code:
adb shell cat /proc/wakelocks > wakelocks.txt
adb shell dmesg > dmesg.txt
Zip em' up and post em' here for analysis.
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Can you please take a look at this one to see if there is anything out of order?
Much appreciated!
Entropy512 said:
Suspend and events/0 at 1 minute every 10h aren't too bad. AOS at 65 is a bit high.
Unless one of the above apps you use is implemented badly, your phone should be able to handle the above. I have Google and Facebook and get great drain. I haven't heard reports of Twitter causing problems.
Tango is an unknown - it's in a similar class to Skype so could be driving excessive idle network traffic.
To the person who posted that a game drained their battery - well, that should be pretty obvious. I guess I'll add it to the first post later, but I'm primarily focusing on the "non-obvious" stuff - things that SHOULDN'T drain your battery but do.
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what I meant to say about the suspend and events/0 is that i wish i was getting a minute every 10h, it is more like 20minutes.. I just finished my over night test, I put the phone down at 11:09 with 69% battery left, waking up just now with 30% at 8:16, did not touch the phone once.. should have been asleep the whole time.. also my suspend is at 31minutes (BBS) and my events/0 is at 30minute (BBS), i also reset my cpu spy. deep sleep 5:49 hours, 200mhz 1:29 hours and 800mhz 1:21 hours (14%)
and lastly, here is my dmesg and wakelocks... so yea this looks pretty horrible to me!
I actually went to the at&t store to exchange this phone yesterday cause I am convinced something is wrong with it, no one really seems to be getting the severe drainahe and stats that i am getting, so I assumed it has to be the phone, well its 2 weeks old and the guy wouldnt take it cause he needed proof there is a battery problem.. Also I went back to stock yesterday before i was going to exchange my phone and the issue seemed to be happening aswell no matter where I was and what apps were installed, hoping these files will figure something out! thanks for your help!
There's alot of careless and sloppy developers out there that has no concern on users battery. Android support Push notification since froyo and it's only implemented in a few apps like tango. Why? Go to the appstore the same exact IM and video chat apps uses push notification, but not on the android version. Instead you have to log in all day clogging your Ram and battery. As of now the only IM client I use it's Google Talk screw Skype oovoo ect or any other apps that has no push. BTW Facebook it's another mess, soon Ill be deleting and using the browser.
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what I meant to say about the suspend and events/0 is that i wish i was getting a minute every 10h, it is more like 20minutes.. I just finished my over night test, I put the phone down at 11:09 with 69% battery left, waking up just now with 30% at 8:16, did not touch the phone once.. should have been asleep the whole time.. also my suspend is at 31minutes (BBS) and my events/0 is at 30minute (BBS), i also reset my cpu spy. deep sleep 5:49 hours, 200mhz 1:29 hours and 800mhz 1:21 hours (14%)
and lastly, here is my dmesg and wakelocks... so yea this looks pretty horrible to me!
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It seems to be the same issue as everybody else is having, getting excessive network traffic waking up the phone. Either you do a network capture of the packets and identify it by the highest common port which comes in (complicated), or you turn off each service off one by one. In the last case I'd start with the network location service (Kill it with Titanium) as that was known to be a *****.
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It seems to be the same issue as everybody else is having, getting excessive network traffic waking up the phone. Either you do a network capture of the packets and identify it by the highest common port which comes in (complicated), or you turn off each service off one by one. In the last case I'd start with the network location service (Kill it with Titanium) as that was known to be a *****.
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so you think I should freeze each app one by one and let chill for an hour and see if there is drainage or not? is ot just processes or apps? cause I would never know to do something about network service unless u said something.. BTW I did, and i still lost 4% battery in an hour of idle.. so thats not it.. what about using this the other way you were talking about
http://www.vbsteven.be/blog/android-debugging-inspectin-network-traffic-with-tcpdump/
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so you think I should freeze each app one by one and let chill for an hour and see if there is drainage or not? is ot just processes or apps? cause I would never know to do something about network service unless u said something.. BTW I did, and i still lost 4% battery in an hour of idle.. so thats not it.. what about using this the other way you were talking about
http://www.vbsteven.be/blog/android-debugging-inspectin-network-traffic-with-tcpdump/
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Exactly. By services I just mean running apps I guess. You can do it as in that guide too, but its hard to later find out which App listens to which port on Android...
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Exactly. By services I just mean running apps I guess. You can do it as in that guide too, but its hard to later find out which App listens to which port on Android...
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ok, so I did try this to an extent, i would disable 4 apps at a time for the most part, only apps, none of the red items like wifi manager and stuff like that (even though i did try that at a different date)
I had no success.. I went back to stock, uninstalled all bloatware, at&t live TV, my account, bar scanner, all that bs, right now I have BBS, Cpu Spy and titanium, only apps that are not stock and are in the list of installed apps. I am still getting this issue!! could it be that I have poor service (though this never affected the iphone this badly) I lose 40% overnight though and it seems odd to me that would be because of low service..
GO.Keyboard and GO Contacts ( especially GO Contacts) was draining my battery at a phenominal pace. GO Contacts was using more battery than the display
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Hi guys,
Need some help here.. I am currently on omega v35 with doggly theme and using persus kernel v29.2. My battery is draining very fast. Even on idle for 30minutes, it drop 2%. Is it because of the theme or setting for the kernel?
I had tried flashing back to stock and siyah but the drainage is even worst. Can anyone help me with this? Are there some setting sample for the tweaks which I can follow on? My ram usage is always constant at 700mb, are there any way to reduce it? Basically, I am using my phone for movie and some gaming like slotomania..
Hope to hear from you guys soon with some advice for me.. thanks.
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Note that the drain might not real drain but caused by the need for the battery to recalibrate itself after some time.
Usually a full and uninterrupted charge-decharge-charge cycles solves those issues.
Please attach a _full_ and root-enabled log of betterbatterystats (free Version here on XDA) over at least 2-3 hours.
Also include a screenshot of the Android-integrated battery stats in fullscreen mode (without the app listing below)
That should be sufficient data to find the culprit
My ram usage is always constant at 700mb, are there any way to reduce it? Basically, I am using my phone for movie and some gaming like slotomania..
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Dalvik always caches apps you opened in the past in the background and keeps them in a semi-frozen state (no CPU access but still in memory).
The reason is simple: it does not cost any power (RAM always costs the same, regardless of content) and it allows you to multitask between multiple apps.
Should an active app need more RAM it will automatically remove those old apps from cache.
In anutshell; simply don't care. Except if you have some apps that lock themselves in RAM and cause lags but that's not an issue of Android but rather the app itself.
hi
Just wanna ask.. is perseus 29.2 compatible with Omega v35? TiA
Thanks for the advice. So far, the kernel is not giving me any other problem except for the battery issue.
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I have tried many options to try and anazlyze the best optimization for battery life out of my galaxy note 2 ..I noticed that when I was getting almost 2 days of battery life was when I had power saving mode enabled and I also had nova launcher installed but than I got to thinking that I wanted to give Touchwiz more of a chance because it is actually quite fluid and the animation is nice at 1x or .05x ...I was reading in threads that some users were not using power saving mode because it takes away from the beast of performance the note 2 possesses ...So my question is unlike other battery saving threads im not necessarily want pictures of your usage I want scenarios of what you ( the community of note 2 users) do to optimize and save battery life .... I will say that I am using cleanrom 3.5 I had 4.0.5 but I did not like that it took away some of the functions I liked ...So Ultimately I just want some advice on how to save battery life I have sync disabled and gps disabled but I keep google now enabled because its awesome ..I just need some advice and reccomendations please help im tired or buying apps that promise to save battery life only to find that they dont do much the most recent app I am trying and it sounds promising is DS Battery Saver and it seems promising because it actually turns off all background applications and wifi and data but wouldn't that do more harm than good to turn off background apps ,wifi and data ..
Have you ever thought about buying a bigger battery?
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Yes I have considered but I feel that I would like to try and explore the current options available to me seeing so many positive posy by other members saying there getting lots of battery life just out of the box without upgrading the battery, the battery on this thing is huge ,3100 ma ...Are these people keeping power saving mode on to gain the extra battery difference because I do notice a huge improvment in battery life when I put it in power saving mode but im thinking the people that are getting two days of battery life out of there device do not have power saving mode enabled
Not only that but I see screen time on some guys are at 8 hours screen time and still have like 50% battery or 6 hrs and have 68% battery thats insane ...I used my phone heavily today I had screen time on for about 6 hours and about two hours of phone calls and than alot of tweaking and trying options so restarting the phone drains the living crap out of this beast...So maybe ill try minimal use tomorrow and see what happens maybe ill see a difference I dont want to have to use ds battery saver most battery saving apps are crap claiming to help but in actually run in the background monitoring everything so it only enhances the battery draining issue or your phone will not go into deep sleep
I disabled haptic feedback. Keep the screen on auto.
Flashed perseus and am using a overclock/undervolt profile for stweaks from the thread that is here in general. There is a stweaks guide and stweaks profile thread if your interested.
Went through and froze or removed all startup and running services I didn't need. No sync apps that don't use push.
Anyway, that's what I did and get pretty good battery life.
Betterbatterystats isn't bloat either. It's pretty crucial if you want to troubleshoot power issues. I've used that as a reference for everything
In the end though, batteries are cheap. You can get 2 ankers and a charger for 20 on Amazon and they are great quality.
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Yes I am definitely intrested in sweaks Ive never heard of it and as far as freezing apps no problem there I just am afraid that if I freeze apps like Google Maps than my Google Now will not properly work I dont snyc anything if I want to sync I do it manually but im not familiar with what you mean by push ? Also i feel to under skilled when it comes to freezing certain background apps like Google Maps I noticed alot or the bulk of my battery drain comes from Location settings I have most of my apps not location enabled but if I were to say freeze google maps wouldnt that effect how Google Now operates ?
Also do you use a certain browser that uses less battery or is that a bit overboard I use mainly stock browser but I also have google chome because its fast and simple I use stock browser when I need to watch flash content and I use chrome when I want things simplified but I find myself using google chrome less and less I heard Opera makes a very nice simple browser ..What browser do you use most often for battery life or does it not matter much ...Oh and if you could possibly send me the link to stweaks I would greatly appreciate it ...
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mindtrust1 said:
Yes I am definitely intrested in sweaks Ive never heard of it and as far as freezing apps no problem there I just am afraid that if I freeze apps like Google Maps than my Google Now will not properly work I dont snyc anything if I want to sync I do it manually but im not familiar with what you mean by push ? Also i feel to under skilled when it comes to freezing certain background apps like Google Maps I noticed alot or the bulk of my battery drain comes from Location settings I have most of my apps not location enabled but if I were to say freeze google maps wouldnt that effect how Google Now operates ?
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You can get an app called juice defender. You can set it up to turn wifi/data/bluetooth/gps off when you turn the screen off. You can set schedules to sync emails and other apps every 5, 10, 15, 30, or 60 minutes.. I have the pro version so I can control my entire phone..
If location settings is draining your battery, turn GPS off.
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So do you also keep power saving mode on your note 2 enabled ? or do you keep that off ..Also is there a video tutorial on how to use Juice Defender properly because I never fully understood some of its features do you have just the basic juice defender, the plus or the ultimate im only asking because I want to know if having juice defender plus will do the trick or do i need the ultimate to take full advantage ?
I only ask this because I already have juice defender plus on the note 2 but I have yet to use it on the note 2
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So do you also keep power saving mode on your note 2 enabled ? or do you keep that off ..Also is there a video tutorial on how to use Juice Defender properly because I never fully understood some of its features do you have just the basic juice defender, the plus or the ultimate im only asking because I want to know if having juice defender plus will do the trick or do i need the ultimate to take full advantage ?
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I leave my power saving off when I use my phone. Ultimate juice defender has all of the features you need. I don't know of any videos, but I know how to set it up, just ask your questions.
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Okay I'll give it a go so do you experience any battery drain in a 8 hour Window that's typically how long I sleep I was just curious Edgar percentage is lost within 8 hours with phone on deep sleep
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Okay I'll give it a go so do you experience any battery drain in a 8 hour Window that's typically how long I sleep I was just curious Edgar percentage is lost within 8 hours with phone on deep sleep
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I lose a percent about every 3 hours. Maybe 4.
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Are you able to tailor jd to work for you during the day as well I already juice defender plus is that enough or would you say get the ultimate ?
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What I mean during the day is when you have your phone on (on screen time ) are you able to signifiicantly reduce your anount of battery drain
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Do you know if juice defender ultimate works with rooted galaxy note 2
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Do you know if juice defender ultimate works with rooted galaxy note 2
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I use it. Works fine with root.
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Do you use the ultimate ? And also have you heard of ds battery saver alot like juice defenfer you can pick and choose which apps you want to run in the background I am only having a problem with network location locator but than I realized if I disable in location settingd wifi and data enabled than my accuweather touch wiiz widget does not update
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Do you use the ultimate ? And also have you heard of ds battery saver alot like juice defenfer you can pick and choose which apps you want to run in the background I am only having a problem with network location locator but than I realized if I disable in location settingd wifi and data enabled than my accuweather touch wiiz widget does not update
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Apps running in the background don't use battery unless they sync a lot. You should be able to manually set location in weather apps.. and juice defender ultimate has the ability to set night schedules, control brightness, cpu, gps, network modes, etc. I have mine set up to sync apps every 30 minutes and then keep data and wifi off. You can also set traffic limits up too, so when the screen turns off, you can have data/wifi stay enabled if you are downloading something.
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If I am using the stock weather and time widget that comes on the galaxy note 2 is it a signifigant amount of battery saving if I have it set to just one location and if you dont mind me asking how do I set it up for it to be set to one lication also if I have weather showing on the lock screen with that use even more battery I mean if its running than it shouldnt effect it if I have it on lock screen and home screen...My last question is regarding location settings that seems to be my biggest battery drain. I like using google now but I noticed if I disable in location settings data and wifi I save a ton of battery life ...I was trying to figure out how to disable maybe certain apps that are tracking my location or if I should just disable wifi and data location but than google now doesnt perform properly
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I have a pretty bad battery drainage problem. Multidp and 12_hsic wakelocks are prevalent. The most noticeable is the Phone app waking up the most.
Steps I've taken to combat the High battery drainage
Disabled Fast Dormancy
Greenified Facebook, Playstore, PlayBooks and Keep
All but contacts and chrome are checked under the autosync settings
Even tried apps like Juice Defender, but the battery drainage increased to a whole new level; deleted the app
Installed a custom kernel. Undervolted by -50mv
ROM: CrDroid
Kernel: Temasek Kernel
P.S Tried the BetterBatteryStats thread, but no one did help me there. :/ Hope I solve my problem here. Attached the idle dump.
Thanks in advance.
mahendru1992 said:
I have a pretty bad battery drainage problem. Multidp and 12_hsic wakelocks are prevalent. The most noticeable is the Phone app waking up the most.
Steps I've taken to combat the High battery drainage
Disabled Fast Dormancy
Greenified Facebook, Playstore, PlayBooks and Keep
All but contacts and chrome are checked under the autosync settings
Even tried apps like Juice Defender, but the battery drainage increased to a whole new level; deleted the app
Installed a custom kernel. Undervolted by -50mv
ROM: CrDroid
Kernel: Temasek Kernel
P.S Tried the BetterBatteryStats thread, but no one did help me there. :/ Hope I solve my problem here. Attached the idle dump.
Thanks in advance.
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The Problem is The ROM , not the Phone.
Android 4.3 isn't optimized for S3 yet .
That causes Battery Drain Problems.
My Recommendation is that you search another 4.3 ROM or Downgrade to 4.2.2 or lower.
Previous post is wrong.
Your two first kernel wakelocks mean network use. Search for background sync apps, check Wi-Fi advanced settings and disable Google constant search.
Greenify all apps, except the vital ones for your usage. With paid app and xposed framework you can even freeze push message ones.
All this can be found in a couple of minutes with Google.
Some can achieve .2 %/hour in deep sleep with 4.3.
The Rom is not the culprit.
You wont get good battery life on IDLE on AOKP, AOSP or CM ROMs. No matter what you do. battery life is ok while the phone is awake but when it is in deepsleep still it consumes the battery on AOKP, AOSP or CM ROMs.
R0flC0pt3r said:
The Problem is The ROM , not the Phone.
Android 4.3 isn't optimized for S3 yet .
That causes Battery Drain Problems.
My Recommendation is that you search another 4.3 ROM or Downgrade to 4.2.2 or lower.
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Yes i know AOSP,AOPK & CM don't have as good an idle drain as the touchwiz ROMs, but in my case we do know the reason. So it has to some other reason
Chaitanyapatel8880 said:
You wont get good battery life on IDLE on AOKP, AOSP or CM ROMs. No matter what you do. battery life is ok while the phone is awake but when it is in deepsleep still it consumes the battery on AOKP, AOSP or CM ROMs.
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Striatum_bdr said:
Previous post is wrong.
Your two first kernel wakelocks mean network use. Search for background sync apps, check Wi-Fi advanced settings and disable Google constant search.
Greenify all apps, except the vital ones for your usage. With paid app and xposed framework you can even freeze push message ones.
All this can be found in a couple of minutes with Google.
Some can achieve .2 %/hour in deep sleep with 4.3.
The Rom is not the culprit.
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Already had Google constant search disabled. And 4.3 is not xposed framework compatible. So can't use that.
And I have disabled background syncing except for chrome and contacts. It's the phone app waking up that's probably the culprit
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I use xposed framework... It's compatible.
2.1.4 apk framework works well. Some people need to use SuperSu instead of super user, you can put it with a file explorer in system/app, then reboot and run, there is even a cwm zip somewhere to flash the framework directly.
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Already had Google constant search disabled. And 4.3 is not xposed framework compatible. So can't use that.
And I have disabled background syncing except for chrome and contacts. It's the phone app waking up that's probably the culprit
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i dont get it.. your battery drainage is just 1.1% / hour
MoonBlade said:
i dont get it.. your battery drainage is just 1.1% / hour
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Yes I know it's just 1.1% but you gotta see that this is just an idle drain. When I start using the phone on day to day basis, it doesn't even last the whole evening let alone the whole day. I'm down to 20% by mid afternoon when i unplug my phone at 8 A.M. .
Whereas when I was on stock, as the people above have said, my battery drain was around .4% and the phone used to last around a day and a half with moderate usage. Yes I know that I can never have that good a battery, but atleast I should be able to eliminate most of the wakelocks with this ROM. But the typical methods like disabling FD, greenifying apps etc etc don't seem to work.
mahendru1992 said:
Yes I know it's just 1.1% but you gotta see that this is just an idle drain. When I start using the phone on day to day basis, it doesn't even last the whole evening let alone the whole day. I'm down to 20% by mid afternoon when i unplug my phone at 8 A.M. .
Whereas when I was on stock, as the people above have said, my battery drain was around .4% and the phone used to last around a day and a half with moderate usage. Yes I know that I can never have that good a battery, but atleast I should be able to eliminate most of the wakelocks with this ROM. But the typical methods like disabling FD, greenifying apps etc etc don't seem to work.
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I am on omega rom series 8.1.AOKP
My battery doesnt last a day anymore.
Phone is way faster than stock, but battery sucks.
Are there NO AOKP/CM/AOSP roms that have more stability and better juice at all?
No
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