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sorry in advance if this is the wrong place for this....
i can't find out what i need to by doing forum searches and maybe this could help someone else too..
...and feel free to redirect me to another thread for some specifics.
any way i have my phone rooted and running kaos froyo v24
what do i need to do to best try other roms, or just update to v30?
how do i flash ? - and how do i know when to do a full wipe? - and what does that entail(should i do a backup , and does the back up need to be on my computer,not my phone?)
could flashing other roms make my current one unstable?
and lastly .....will i lose all my apps and contacts and stuff with each flash or full wipe?
any clarification on these matters would be awesome.
and thanks so much everyone..... you have given me a better phone
brendan
This would be better placed in Q&A, but I will be happy to help you. All you need to do to flash another rom is what you did for the first one. To move up from one version of a rom to another, you don't need to wipe unless the instructions specify you to do so. But when in doubt, wipe. That is if you dont mind losing all of your saved data. But when going to a new rom, then wiping is a must. Yes, you will lose all apps and contacts for each wipe. No, your phone will not be unstable because of the flash, though if the rom has bugs then it could be. Hope this helps
I suggest installing titanium backup from the market. It allows you to save your current apps and data to be reinstalled on your new rom.
Before flashing a new rom, create a nandroid of your current rom by holding vol up + power. Scroll to backup/restore and create the nand. If for any reason you dont like the new rom, you can wipe data, dalvik, and ext (if your sd card is partitioned) and restore the nand. Your phone will be exactly like before.
To flash a new rom, save the file to the root of your sd card (not in any folder), do a wipe if your going to a new rom or if you have problems updating the old one, and flash the file you downloaded. If your updating the same rom the developer will tell you if you need to wipe or not.
FYI- Nands are saved on your sd card in the nandroid folder. You dont need to mess with them. When you restore, amon ra will look in that folder for you. Don't rename your recoveries like I did and render them useless.
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And your contacts should be resynced when you flash a new rom as long as you're using Gmail and allowing it to backup.
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awesome !!!
thanks so much guys!
Hello,
Is it possible to simply modify any rom to contain pre-installed security app with user data ?
For example I have extracted lookout.apk and data from /data/data/com.lookout. My idea is simply copy these files to zip with custom rom. In case of lost/stolen phone, applications would stay with my settings even after factory reset.
I tried to put lookout.apk into system/app and data in data/data/com.lookout into the custom rom. The application was installed ok, but the data was completely missing. I am quite new in modifying roms, but I think there is some problem with missing instructions in manifest or update script.
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Pardon, can somebody move it please ?
You can put the apk in the data/apps I don't know if you can put the actual saved data in....
apk is working perfectly. Problem is how to tell the rom to copy files with settings into /data/data/com.lookout. Good solution could be some script with commands such as
"cp /data/com.lookout/file1.txt /data/data/com.lookout/file1.txt" but I dont know if it is possible.
I tried to modify manifest.mf and cert.sf but files was not copied.
d1105373 said:
Hello,
Is it possible to simply modify any rom to contain pre-installed security app with user data ?
For example I have extracted lookout.apk and data from /data/data/com.lookout. My idea is simply copy these files to zip with custom rom. In case of lost/stolen phone, applications would stay with my settings even after factory reset.
I tried to put lookout.apk into system/app and data in data/data/com.lookout into the custom rom. The application was installed ok, but the data was completely missing. I am quite new in modifying roms, but I think there is some problem with missing instructions in manifest or update script.
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if i understand you question correctly, if someone where steal your phone and flash a new ROM you want lookout and your personal data from lookout to be installed when they flash the ROM? is this correct?
i think your confused, or either i am in regards to what exactly you mean? a factory reset and flashing a new ROM are two totally different things. a factory reset simply resets the installed ROM to its default settings. flashing a ROM resets "everything" data included. if someone were to steal your phone, flash a format all or wipe manually for that matter, and then install another ROM your data is GONE. no, getting it back for us normal people anyway.
t3project said:
if i understand you question correctly, if someone where steal your phone and flash a new ROM you want lookout and your personal data from lookout to be installed when they flash the ROM? is this correct?
i think your confused, or either i am in regards to what exactly you mean? a factory reset and flashing a new ROM are two totally different things.
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I think he wants to save it at /system and have a script or something put the settings back after a rom initiated factory reset...
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I think he wants to save it at /system and have a script or something put the settings back after a rom initiated factory reset...
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the only way i know of to accomplish this would be to place the files on the /sdcard create a script that runs at boot (a fairly simple thing) and tell it to copy the file from the sdcard into the desired folder. this would have to be a custom ROM and the sdcard would have to have the file on it. again, if the person flashed a new ROM or formatted/repaleced the /sdcard, you're just SOL.
its possible use avast formally theft aware it integrates it self into the rom as root and survives a hard reset as well as offering alot of other features such as sms control and automatically turning n 3g and gps
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aaronpoweruser said:
its possible use avast formally theft aware it integrates it self into the rom as root and survives a hard reset as well as offering alot of other features such as sms control and automatically turning n 3g and gps
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until you wipe and flash a new ROM
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I think he wants to save it at /system and have a script or something put the settings back after a rom initiated factory reset...
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Yes, thats exactly what I meant. I didn't realize, that after factory reset is data partition (/data) wiped. The script could be a good solution.
Of course I know after flashing rom everything will be gone. But I asume if somebody steal/find your phone. He will not be flashing rom at first time. Probably he will make factory reset and insert his sim card. It would be fine to know who is using your phone and where even after factory reset.
hey there
im kind of new to kernels and roms.
a few months ago i flashed a new kernel and lite 'ning on my phone.
and like 3 weeks ago i wanted something new. i flashed a new kernel with odin.
What i was wondering if i flash a new kernel using odin will it delete the older kernel or will it kind of **** up the kernel? is there some kind of process you need to do before flashing another kernel?
Then i flashed Sensation ROM witch gave me some problems. somewhile along the day i lose my connection ''No Service -selected network (...) not available''
I am wondering if this is a problem with the ROM or with the Kernel.
Also mabey a solution without losing contacts, apps, messages?
Thanks Alot!!!
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You can flash a new kernel via Odin without FUBAR. But most kernels can be flashed via ClockworkMod (CWM) -they're .zip files.
CWM is your backup friend and absolutely essential - you thus won't lose contacts etc.
Search, search, search....
Odin will replace the old kernel, same thing applies when you flash through CWM, just make sure to wipe cache and dalvik.
You should use a backup app like titanium backup for your apps.
Regarding data, try manually entering the APN settings through settings. Settings - Wireless and network - Mobile Networks - Access point Names. Just google the apn settings of your carrier.
Kaze105 said:
Regarding data, try manually entering the APN settings through settings. Settings - Wireless and network - Mobile Networks - Access point Names. Just google the apn settings of your carrier.
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Or try the Lazy Bastard Option, like me - APN Backup & Restore app from the market.
Does what it says.
Pleases read me.
Flashing something replaces the old stuff, flashing a kernel will replace the current kernel.
Also that sounds like it might be a rom problem. Maybe try a different rom, or do a full wipe.
Backup your EFS with ktool before you flash anything else. All you need is root.
A few days ago i put on Siyah neweset 5.0.1 kernel on my S2 and overclocked but my performance hasn't increased much so i'm gonna put Ressurection Remix ROM now but the first step on the guide says to format my phone and i hate loseing my things, is there anyway to keep my stuff on the new ROM D: ? I'm not sure what to do QQ i don't wanna screw this up, also i'm gonna make a few backups, cuz 1 isn't enough.
Over clocking doesn't increase performance per se.
You can use titanium backup to backup and restore your current apps. Use SMS backup+ for your texts and call lists.
Images, vids, music etc are unaffected by formatting via CWM.
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If you want to switch to another ROM, I guess it's best to backup all your apps via Titanium Backup. As far as I remember, the list displays white apps, red ones and green ones. The red ones are system apps and you should backup them since they differ from ROM to ROM. The white ones are apps which you have installed on your phone (via Google Play...). The green entries are things like "Messages" "Phone call history" and stuff like that.. I guess you can backup them too.
You won't loose your contacts as long as they are stored on your googlemail-account. So no need to safe them.
Then just backup your current ROM via ClockworkMod (I guess one backup is enough :b - If you want to be 100% sure try to backup and right after it finished try to restore the backup. If it works (in 99,9% of all cases) you can just flash your new ROM - if it didn't work try to backup+restore again. As soon as you've got a working backup (I guess the first backup will be OK), flash the new ROM and restore the needed apps via Titanium Backup again. (Just download Titanium Backup right after flashing RR and you will be able to restore every single app again).
More and more ROM devs advise not to restore apps via Titanium Backup, but it always worked fine for me
Hope I helped you,
experience7
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A few days ago i put on Siyah neweset 5.0.1 kernel on my S2 and overclocked but my performance hasn't increased much so i'm gonna put Ressurection Remix ROM now but the first step on the guide says to format my phone and i hate loseing my things, is there anyway to keep my stuff on the new ROM D: ? I'm not sure what to do QQ i don't wanna screw this up, also i'm gonna make a few backups, cuz 1 isn't enough.
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You dont need to format everything to install a Custom Rom. Just wipe data, cache and Dalvik cache(under advanced).
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boki9999 said:
You dont need to format everything to install a Custom Rom. Just wipe data, cache and Dalvik cache(under advanced).
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I made a backup but in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854
It was first step : Factory reset, won't factory reset delete my backup?
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I made a backup but in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854
It was first step : Factory reset, won't factory reset delete my backup?
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Wipe Data/Factory reset will not delete the backup u made since as its stored in ur internal sdcard ma8
What the hell kind of titke for a topic is "D:" ????
Please use some common sense and use proper descriptive titles, Not silly things lik this that dont tell people anything when browsing forum.
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Wipe Data/Factory reset will not delete the backup u made since as its stored in ur internal sdcard ma8
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So... I make a backup, i backup apps, and i factory reset from phone settings right?
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What the hell kind of titke for a topic is "D:" ????
Please use some common sense and use proper descriptive titles, Not silly things lik this that dont tell people anything when browsing forum.
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"D:" is the best description of the problem i could think of
Smileyz0r said:
So... I make a backup, i backup apps, and i factory reset from phone settings right?
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If ur on Stock Rom then, Yes, its that way
Sun90 said:
If ur on Stock Rom then, Yes, its that way
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I did all the steps and now i'm stuck at Reussrection remix boot loop
And i can't go into recovery, when i remove-put in battery it automaticaly start back up on this loopy thing
EDIT: My fault, i didn't untick don't restart.
I managed to get back and wipe everything and now it works perfectly
Sadly... i lost all my stuff ... ( i mean... it's not installed but i have the files, but they are useless )
But it was tottaly worth it becouse this is ORGASMICLY fast.
TOTTALY WORTH IT <333
CYA SOON MAYBE
<3 Smiley
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"D:" is the best description of the problem i could think of
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Don't be ridiculous.
What about something simple like "How to backup data before installing new rom?"
In any case you should have searched google or XDA first as there is plenty of topics on how to flash roms without losing data or how to backup all your apps/appdata etc.
TheATHEiST said:
Don't be ridiculous.
What about something simple like "How to backup data before installing new rom?"
In any case you should have searched google or XDA first as there is plenty of topics on how to flash roms without losing data or how to backup all your apps/appdata etc.
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I can't find the button to change tittle, it must be hidden under 3 layers of bedrock.
Anyway, i've been useing this rom since yesterday, it's awesome .. mostly
Some minor disadvantages, some things like Clock crash, won't update some things but that's normal.
My stock benchmark was 6800, now 6200 D:
Probably becouse the rom uses more RAM than stock.. Overall 8.7/10 <3
I'll keep testin.
EDIT: OH YEA! what were those "modems" it asked me when i was installing it?
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I can't find the button to change tittle, it must be hidden under 3 layers of bedrock.
Anyway, i've been useing this rom since yesterday, it's awesome .. mostly
Some minor disadvantages, some things like Clock crash, won't update some things but that's normal.
My stock benchmark was 6800, now 6200 D:
Probably becouse the rom uses more RAM than stock.. Overall 8.7/10 <3
I'll keep testin.
EDIT: OH YEA! what were those "modems" it asked me when i was installing it?
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Modem is software that controls and makes connection with mobile network possible.
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You edit your 1st post.You just go into the title area and change the text there.
Something like "I love theAtheist".
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ok so basically i want to find a way to get to 4.3 either rooted or unrooted, my problem is that i have pretty bad ocd and one of my major major problems with that disorder is my tech devices, i will most likely have an anxsiety attack or 2 if i have to set up my phone from scratch and i will spend hours making it look exactly the same. anyway, i want to know:
1:how to update rooted gs3 Gt-i9305t 4g/lte model without loosing data (if possible )
2: update to 4.3 and un root without loosing data (im sure thats impossible )
i would really appreciate the help as i cannot find anyone looking for the same help as me (kinda strange how no one cares about there data at all, but meh)
also on a side note, i have the problem with my s3 where any sd card i put into the machine will eventually kill itself and never work again as far as i know, it has killed 3 32gb sd cards now and its starting to piss me off to the point where i am no longer using an sd card at all. why does the phone do this and is there any way to fix it? either software wise or hard wear wise? thanks !!! :fingers-crossed:
4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
that just sucks.
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4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
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that honestly sucks so much, thanks for the info though.
hey another quick question, is there a way to so a full backup, like im talking FULL, like down to the point of where ur apps are placed and all there data, like apple devices have through itunes?? (restore from backup option) cus if so then i dont mind wiping at all, i just hate apple so i will never go back to one of there piece of **** devices again (i like features with my shiny brick) but yeah anything like that? or can kies do that?
i'm using temasek 4.3 preview 3 atm, you should check it out since developer is extremely helpful
and he updates regularly (which is important)
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM) and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
The one thing I ahve NOT found a solution for is replacing my widgets back on the screens they are on - I run 7 screens and it pisses me off a full recovery in something like Titanium doesn't restore my widgets. The only way it happens is a full nandroid restore but that nukes the new ROM I have just installed so that's not an option.
I run Purelook HD as my 1st ROM, GoogyMax kernel and SlimBean as my 2nd ROM. I can nuke either or both and be back to my set up (including widgets) in about 45 minutes.
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There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
OP - Please read the "Read before rooting" thread in my signature for more info.
**** that
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
adex9 said:
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
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We all spend hours making it look exactly the same. It's annoying but essential.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
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The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
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The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
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@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
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Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
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Yep, it could do.
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
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Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
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Same here. I've been looking for the exact method to do this, but haven't had any luck so far.
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
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I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
JJEgan said:
Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
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Well, let's see... there's everyone I know that also has this phone. People online that say they have this phone. Web sites saying that this phone has officially received 4.3. The phone itself saying there is an update for the firmware. So, basically everyone/thing except the Kies program.
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
JJEgan said:
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
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I already told you who said there is an update for my phone. Unless my phone is disguised as some one of a kind phone, I'm supposed to be able to update to 4.3.